F-Droid blog post about Google's and Apple's (non)compliance with the EU's DMA
I found this post quite interesting. While i already knew a few things its interesting to get a look at how scummy these companies behave at public events hosted by the European Comission.
EC DMA compliance workshops | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
At the beginning of summer, the European Commission held a series of “DMA2025 complianceworkshops” to let thepublic post questions to the “gatekeepers” as de...f-droid.org
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Haus der Kulturen der Welt in Berlin zur blauen Stunde. By Ansgar Koreng / CC BY-SA 3.0 (DE).
Berlin, Haus der Kulturen (“Schwangere Auster”). By Evergreen68 – Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0
Zephorah
in reply to Ulrich • • •That Weird Vegan
in reply to Zephorah • • •rhabarba
in reply to Zephorah • • •bridgeenjoyer
in reply to Zephorah • • •While true, desktops and laptops mean nothing now. Most people dont even have anything other than a phone.
If youre using android or ios, youre not private and you are being tracked 24/7.
Sadly my s23 only runs android and Linux phones aren't good enough yet.
NutWrench
in reply to Zephorah • • •Communist
in reply to NutWrench • • •rhabarba
in reply to Ulrich • • •1984
in reply to rhabarba • • •He is some influencer, dont you wanna be influenced by the video people?
Seriously though, Linux doesnt need this guy to speak for it. Its an amazing system. This guy just wants YouTube views. Whatever. 😀
Without Linux, I cant imagine using a computer. Its like asking a big American corporation to allow me to log in, knowing its tracking everything i do. THAT is the insanity of using windows mate.
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rhabarba
in reply to 1984 • • •You are aware that, unlike (e.g.) OpenBSD, Linux is (legally) an American product, right?
1984
in reply to rhabarba • • •Sure. But you probably know that big tech companies like Microsoft and Google spies on their users using the operating system, and makes changes to those said operating systems in order to collect as much private data as possible.
Its a very big difference compared to using Linux. Sure, most of it is American companies. But you have a lot of choice in the Linux world. Its not the same. I think you know this? Otherwise you have a lot of good things to find out about. 😀
rhabarba
in reply to 1984 • • •1984
in reply to rhabarba • • •Heh, true. But even systemd is a choice, kind of. Even though it brings the number of distributions to maybe just a few.
I wanted to try these ones at some point, seems nice:
artixlinux.org/
voidlinux.org/
Enter the void
Void Linuxrhabarba
in reply to 1984 • • •Culf
in reply to 1984 • • •Jinni
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in reply to Jinni • • •Ulrich
in reply to rhabarba • • •rhabarba
in reply to Ulrich • • •Yes, I think so. But I'm always open to constructive feedback: What kind of product do you think an operating system kernel is, whose development is driven by a US citizen (Linus Torvalds) under the patronage of a US foundation (Linux Foundation) and with significant involvement of several US companies (Red Hat, Microsoft, NSA) and is usually delivered with a whole host of software from US organisations (foremost: GNU), if not a US product?
Yes, of course, Linux has developers from all sorts of countries. But then, so do Windows and macOS.
However, as I wrote below:
Ulrich
in reply to rhabarba • • •Microsoft and Apple are subject to US authority. Linux is not.
rhabarba
in reply to Ulrich • • •Ulrich
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in reply to Ulrich • • •Ulrich
in reply to rhabarba • • •utopiah
in reply to rhabarba • • •You know the argument is facetious when Microsoft Corporation is being compared to Linux Foundation.
The whole raison d'etre of one is precisely that it can not be owned and control whereas other is trying since its inception to capture value. The organization of both being in the same country its actually irrelevant.
Edit: don't want to invest too much time on this kind of discussion but, and I don't think Linux == Torvalds anymore, his Wikipedia page does state that he has dual citizenship, in 2010 said "I have way too much personal pride to want to be associated with any of them [U.S. political party], quite frankly." then in 2024 "I'm Finnish. Did you think I'd be supporting Russian aggression?" so I'm not exactly convinced he feels like a US patriot, whatever that might mean.
eldavi
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in reply to melfie • • •CocaineShrimp
in reply to Ulrich • • •I fully flipped over every device in my house off windows about a week or two ago, and so far so good!
I've been daily driving linux on my personal laptop since 2009 (16 years now!?) for school / work / personal work-esque stuff, and my work laptop is now OSX. A few weeks ago I flipped my gaming machine from windows to popOS and been quite pleasantly surprised at how well gaming on Linux is these days. So much so, I convinced my wife to let me flip her gaming machine to Linux as well.
The only hiccup I've recently had was having to deal with windows-only, non-steam software. Ie. insta360. Luckily, there are compatibility layers / emulators I can use to be able to run it. It's slow, but good enough.
At this point, there's no good reason for me to go back to Windows or anything Microsoft. It's even become a red flag when I hear a business is using Microsoft's products. I want to hope Microsoft gets a wake up call at some point soon and turns the ship around, but I think they've got too many big-company deals to have to worry about their consumer products being shite.