I switched to Hyprland some time ago and now I made a video showcasing all the features I've implemented for myself, check it out!
In this video I'm showing my current Hyprland setup as a demo. I'm showing features I implemented myself and my configuration of hyprland, waybar, tofi, wlogout, kitty and other tools.
And here the link to my hypr-dotfiles: git.jeena.net/jeena/hypr-dotfi…
Google is in the middle of a six-month, $45 million contract to amplify propaganda with Netanyahu’s office. The contract describes Google as a “key entity” supporting the prime minister’s messaging.Jack Poulson (Drop Site News)
E: apparently it needs to be said that I am not suggesting you switch to Linux on your phone today; just that development needs to accelerate.
Android has always been a fairly open platform, especially if you were deliberate about getting it that way, but we've seen in recent months an extremely rapid devolution of the Android ecosystem:
Google once competed with Apple for customers. But in a world where Google walks away from the biggest antitrust trial since 1998 with yet another slap on the wrist, competition is dead, and Google is taking notes from Apple about what they can legally get away with.
Android as we know it is dead. And/or will be dead very soon. We need an open replacement.
Samsung One UI removed bootloader unlock officially in latest update. Learn what this change means for custom ROM users, developers, and how it affects Android enthusiasts.Pavithran (TrendsLife)
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Just in case it helps - I followed this guide to get Mint's Network Manager working with the Cisco AnyConnect OpenVPN thing (needed it for work) which worked well for me, I guess the steps should be fairly similar for other stuff.
Edit: fat fingers made me type "caze" instead of "case".
Learn two ways to install the Cisco AnyConnect VPN Client in a Linux environment.Baeldung
locate is a command I've used in the past, but now, fresh installed with sudo apt get locate it doesn return anything.
locate --version returnslocate (GNU findutils) 4.10.0, from 2024
or, have I forgotten something?
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locate uses an index you need to update using updatedb before it is able to find anything.
updatedb may run periodically because of a cron job, but the index is probably missing right after installing it manually.
I guess because that adds extra complexity that isn't inherently necessary and can be added on top, plus it eats resources. You'll spend the cycles either way basically, at least this way it's optional. I don't bother with a file indexer because with SSDs nowadays, find is pretty fast, and how often do you search for files anyway?
Linux has APIs to get notified on file system events (fanotify, inotify) which would allow such a service to update itself whenever files are created/delete immediately, but locate is way older than that, from the 80s. I think popular DEs have something like that.
There's also ways to search for specific files that come with packages (e.g. dpkg -S), because the package manager already maintains an index of files that were installed by it, so you can use that for most stuff outside /home.
Have you tried RTFM? 😛
Jokes aside afaik you could do everything you mentioned with sort, find (with -type f, -printf and -mtime) and grep (filtering via regex with the -e flag).
Alternatively you could try KDE's file explorer dolphin (or even just its search utility kfind) as a graphical alternative.
My point is switching to linux is not quick or easy, but there are few really impassable roadblocks (games with shitty kernel level anticheat for example) and there is a high likelyhood someone in this community has encountered your problems aswell and migjt even know a solution.
using find to sort all pictures in /pics/ by inverted (i.e., most recently accessed first) access time, and filtering only those with an exposure time between 1/20 and 1/100 seconds
find /pics/ -type f \( -iname '*.jpg' -o -iname '*.jpeg' -o -iname '*.png' \) \
-exec exiftool -ExposureTime -T {} \; -exec bash -c '
file="$1"
exposure="$2"
# Convert exposure to decimal
if [[ "$exposure" =~ ^([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)$ ]]; then
num="${BASH_REMATCH[1]}"
denom="${BASH_REMATCH[2]}"
exposure_val=$(echo "$num / $denom" | bc -l)
else
exposure_val="$exposure"
fi
# Filter by exposure between 1/100 and 1/20 seconds
if (( $(echo "$exposure_val >= 0.01" | bc -l) )) && (( $(echo "$exposure_val <= 0.05" | bc -l) )); then
atime=$(stat -c %X "$file") # Access time (epoch)
echo "$atime $file"
fi
' bash {} $(exiftool -s3 -ExposureTime {}) | sort -nrpic: path:"C:\pics" sort:da-descending ExposureTime:1/20..1/100
But actually doesn't work because "ExposureTime" is only available as an sorting order not a filter but you get the gist ;)
Ah yeah okay, I see, that would be quite tedious to implement in bash. Everything looks pretty neat. 😁
Buuut I just looked at KDE's search framework filter options (used by dolphin if you press + f ) and it seems it is indeed possible to search/filter by exposure time with dolphin or via directly in the cli.
Seems like a good and useful workflow for sure. Don't know if something equivalent exists, maybe it doesn't.
I'd personally use find for this, but it is a command line tool, and while I have memorized some of the more common options (directories-only would be -type d for example), I'd have to look at the manpage for more advances options. It's not hard exactly but it's not easy-to-use GUI software for sure.
I've taken to using chatgpt to make me the more advanced find queries, before on linux I would ONLY use find /path | grep -i somenames
So that's already an improvement, if still a bit tedious
The thing about everything is that it's so ergonomic, fast and powerful.
Being able to search anything and sort everywhich way with the click of a button
Check out this sublime search syntax (this not even half of it ! )
And the re-ordering by columns, and there are just SO MANY columns you can add, like search by EXIF camera exposure, no problem !
I really wish there was something as good as "everything" on linux, it's just awesome.
y0kai [he/him]
in reply to Ulrich • • •My next phone will run Linux, even if it is inconvenient.
As soon as this phone is paid off, I'll be changing from Google Fi as well. Which sucks because it's hella cheap.
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in reply to Marafon • • •I'm likely going to go to t-mobile as they're cheap from what I understand and they make up a big part of the network that google leases, along with (i think) US Cellular, or something similar.
That said, I've got about a year to decide, unless someone decides to hire me and then I can pay my phone off early.
eldavi
in reply to y0kai [he/him] • • •go w an mvno; they're usually cheaper and it rob the carriers of profit.
and the carriers deserve it for blacklisting chinese smartphones from their networks in collusion with the us gov't in order to prevent chinese tech from entering the us like they're doing with EV's and solar panels using tariffs.
Ulrich
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in reply to Marafon • • •Sarcasmo220
in reply to y0kai [he/him] • • •As someone dailying a Linux phone, I will say that there were no issues getting it to work on T-Mobile. The only thing I did was manually enter the APN details, but that was an OS thing.
From what I have seen on forums Verizon won't let you at all, and AT&T might take a bit of work to get them to whitelist the IMEI on their network.
duhlieluh
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in reply to Marafon • • •I'm on Mint.
T-Mobile acquired them, per the usual bullshit, but I get 15GB a month with unlimited talk and text for "$20" a month. The catch is that you pay yearly in bulk for that price. Had it a year and change. Been solid.
ArtificialLink
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in reply to jevans ⁂ • • •Worth noting that some services will reject VoIP phone numbers.
JMP also explicitly states that it doesn't work for emergency calls.
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in reply to Ulrich • • •Ulrich
in reply to hendrik • • •It seems like you read the title as "everyone needs to switch to Linux mobile right now" but that's not what it says.
The point is, as you said, there's a lot of work that needs to be done, and that work is more important now than ever.
hendrik
in reply to Ulrich • • •Sure. It's just that the timeframe is a bit disheartening. To me... so all of this is highly subjective. We had the Nokia N900 in like 2009. And I was expecting to live the full Linux experience within a few years and those things to become a bit more affordable. And today it's almost 16 years later and it doesn't feel like we've come substantially closer. More recently we had Librem and Pine64 put some effort and publicity into it, and that's also been 5 years. The mobile/touch desktops made some good progress. PostmarketOS is kind of nice. But there are entire layers missing like the app framework in Android which enables such app lifecycles, connected standby... Sandboxing and a fine-granular permission system for proprietary apps (or just modern mainstream usage) is kind of in its infancy. And I'm not even sure if everyone is going to use Flatpak for everything. And all of those missing things are huge undertakings.
So I'm not sure when to expect such an every-day phone... Maybe in 2030 or 2035? But that's kind of late if the headline is "more important now, than ever". Because all the while Google is moving more and more stuff from AOSP into their proprietary Play services and it's getting uncomfortable for me. We have a deadline with the Google messes with the allowed apps on a phone starting 2027. And my life includes more and more mandatory apps, or I have to forfeit taking part in society, culture, convenience or riding a train... This year, Google started giving the GrapheneOS devs a hard time... Now they're making it even more complicated.
So of course not everyone has to use it, and I'm first of all concerned with my own wellbeing. But I really don't see a solution in the near future which is going to address the important issues if today and the next few years. So I'm a bit unsure if a Linux phone will come around and help me before it's too late, or if I need to find other ways to deal with it.
Ulrich
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in reply to hendrik • • •Olgratin_Magmatoe
in reply to Ulrich • • •Definitely going to be trying for some kind of linux phone for my next one.
Debating biting the bullet on the ~$800 cost of a fairphone.
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in reply to mat • • •Had family use it because they had a Huawei phone
mat
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in reply to swelter_spark • • •Dariusmiles2123
in reply to Ulrich • • •In my country, for all the banks I use, I need to have an app on my phone to access their website with my Linux computer.
So a Linux phone would need to provide this as I can’t be without access to my accounts.
Ulrich
in reply to Dariusmiles2123 • • •Wat.
PoisonedPrisonPanda
in reply to Ulrich • • •thats pretty common, in my country as well.
like a two factor authentication. but without TOTP. but with a proprietary app by the bank provided.
Ulrich
in reply to PoisonedPrisonPanda • • •Dariusmiles2123
in reply to Ulrich • • •Yeah it’s part of the 2 factors authentification process.
Back in the days you received some card reader generating a code, but that ain’t the case anymore..
So Linux would need to have a native version of these apps or a way to efficiently emulate Android or iOS.
Ulrich
in reply to Dariusmiles2123 • • •Dariusmiles2123
in reply to Ulrich • • •I didn’t know this. But I guess the bank has to allow it.
Last time I checked my banks were only allowing you to do such things through an app or at the bank (which is far from my village).
pmk
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in reply to pmk • • •Twig
in reply to pmk • • •pmk
in reply to Twig • • •At the same time, many things that relate to proving that I am me has become very convenient in this society. For example I moved to a new apartment and they just sent a link to the contract and I signed it with the app and that was that, I did my taxes by just checking that the info they had was correct and signed it on my phone, etc.
deczzz
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in reply to Shimitar • • •Endymion_Mallorn
in reply to Ulrich • • •I would like to move away from Android and iOS. But I'm not sure it's really feasible. Hell, I might even have to move fully to iOS, because that's what the wife uses. That's the challenge with Linux or alternative OSes on mobile. It goes against the purpose of the device - it needs to be able to interact with the people in your life.
Because I have Android and she has an iPhone, we can't easily share headphones (her AirPods or my generic ones) or some of the other accessories. For instance, I don't want a device without a 3.5mm jack, so none of my headphones work for her. About the only thing we can share is the USB-C cable, and it's less efficient on my device. We have to use Google Maps to share location, the built-in functions don't talk. We have to use regular SMS and calls or Discord to talk, because FaceTime and iMessage don't have compatible Android software. I love her with all my heart - and frankly speaking she's worth more to me than software advocacy.
That's what causes ecosystem lock-in. As Sartre said, Hell is other people.
Ulrich
in reply to Endymion_Mallorn • • •That's not a "challenge" that linux can ever overcome. The only way to overcome that is to ask your wife to switch to a device that's respectful of you and her and everyone else.
I find it extremely irritating that so many people see other devices and "well I can't interact with them the way I want to so I'd better join them and contribute to the problems so I can also not interact with other people on free systems".
Endymion_Mallorn
in reply to Ulrich • • •Okay. Give me a Linux phone that works out of the box that suits the following dealbreakers:
Those are the dealbreakers for me.
Ulrich
in reply to Endymion_Mallorn • • •Endymion_Mallorn
in reply to Ulrich • • •Ulrich
in reply to Endymion_Mallorn • • •Listen, if you want to continue to contribute value to companies that want to fuck you at every turn because you can't be bothered to find other ways to overcome minor inconveniences, that's your prerogative. You're just like most people.
Once again, this is never going to happen. And this is NOT essential. To anyone. Not even a little bit. Ask your family members to use a different platform. There are HUNDREDS of messaging apps that all do the same fucking thing but aren't behind Apple's Walled Garden. If they can't be bothered, then it must not be important. I ask my friends and family to message me on Signal and most of them don't have a problem with it.
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in reply to swelter_spark • • •Hack3900
in reply to Endymion_Mallorn • • •Unfortunately not usable with Linux without a phone yet but so far the most accessible option
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anon5621
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in reply to anon5621 • • •magguzu
in reply to Endymion_Mallorn • • •Like you, I value my relationships and by extension my mental health more than which messaging app I use.
I hate Meta with a passion and them acquiring Whatsapp is probably the most disappointing acquisition of all time to me, but I'm going to continue using it because my wife, family in Latin America, and world friends all use it. And being lonely and out of touch isn't worth the satisfaction of knowing my data isn't being scraped to me. Others in these threads always seems to disagree here, and they're free to do that but it's not a lifestyle I'm interested in.
I'm making changes where I can; I self host a server for my media, photos, files. I'm going to install Graphene on my phone soon. I'm interested in picking up a cheaper older phone to try a Linux mobile OS on. I have my phone auto connect to my pihole to block trackers when I'm out of the house, etc. But I know as soon as it's something I have to inconvenience others with, it's not going to work.
Pick your battles.
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
in reply to Ulrich • • •I imagine building on existing AOSP project like GrapheneOS or LineageOS would be the easiest path forward. There is already a decent ecosystem of open source apps available. You'd still need to figure out what to do with proprietary apps like Slack that regular people might need for day to day use.
Ultimately, the problem lies in lack of a hardware vendor willing to take make open phones that are geared towards running a custom OS on without having to jailbreak them. I really think the only way this can happen is if there was a vendor that focuses on providing a full stack open source system for mobile. Maybe a company like Liberux or even Framework will succeed at doing something like that at some point.
Liberux is using waydroid to add compatibility from what I've seen, so that may be the way forward where you have a base Linux system, and then a layer for running Android apps on top of it.
deczzz
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in reply to swelter_spark • • •network_switch
in reply to Ulrich • • •Yes. Need the kind of love desktop hardware got for Linux with mobile hardware. I don't need tap to pay and mobile deposit. That can come when the ball really gets rolling and the user base is too large to not service. For now I'd be happy with consistent phone/text support, signal application, a mobile Firefox, and the phone dockable to run full desktop applications. Strong enough hardware. Google are a bunch of jackasses. Need more phones to support PostmarketOS or something
Most apps I can replace with a web browser but the mass market has shown it's preference for an app store. Got to get payments integrated into Flathub
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in reply to Ulrich • • •Are there any Linux mobile OSs that do not use a compatibility layer with Android underneath it?
I tried Ubuntu Touch a couple of years ago and couldn't get mobile data working with UK provider but apart from that it was very cool.
Ulrich
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in reply to Ulrich • • •I have a Pixel 9 Pro which is supposed to get security updates until 2031 but at the pace Google is closing Android down I wonder if it will even be viable to stay on an AOSP degoogled ROM until then.
I feel like the future is leading us to a place where we will have to reduce our mobile computing to a trusted but slow and unreliable main phone while keeping a secondary mainstream device for banking/government apps.
Hack3900
in reply to Ulrich • • •wiki_me
in reply to Ulrich • • •Have you looked at the state of how open source smartphone os projects are funded? Seems like not enough people think it is currently important. i saw no bump in funding since the announcement. I would say the best bet is trying to help one of these projects with fundraising and trying to educate or convince enough people it is worth investing in. and obviously donate if you can. Although to be honest even i don't do that (i think i invest enough in FOSS).
Once i bought a phone i tried to pick one that is friendly for FOSS projects and went with a pixel (which grapheneos recommended). so voting or signaling with your wallet is an option.
I also think something like codeberg. where anyone can be a member if he pays fees that help fund the organisation and democratically elect a board that decides what to fund could be helpful. codeberg has a pretty good organic growth so that is encouraging but i don't know if there is enough interest in that.
codeberg's profile - Liberapay
Liberapaymaam
in reply to wiki_me • • •☂️-
in reply to Ulrich • • •xiaomi is doing something like motorola, in which they drop support for unlocking older devices.
pretty slimy move considering those are the ones that need it the most. very disappointed in a manufacturer that otherwise makes great hardware.
dreaper
in reply to Ulrich • • •My solution? Giving up the smartphone. They are too fragile and are high maintenance. I've simply had enough. So, I went with a Sonim XP3Plus flip phone. Mainly because the screen on the Pixel 3, the phone I went through the trouble of putting a custom ROM on and setting up just right, broke somehow inside.
Yeah, the flip phone runs Android, but it comes as a scaled down version of Android (no Google crap, or extra apps, like any app store; just the basics), so I don't have to do any modding. And I just keep my plan cheap for unlimited calling with very little data (I keep the data off anyways, so I don't care).
Basically, I've gone old school to solve a modern problem (for music, I went with an old school MP3 player). And if people can't be bothered to pick up the phone, I move on. This is where I stand now. I've had enough.
I feel like I finally have peace again after 10 years of using the smart phone. Being disconnected while outside is great.
Best part? The flip phone can last about 2 weeks on a full charge.
PS:
Being completely off Google; even YouTube? Feels amazing. I've turned to Odysee, Peertube and B-chute and use those with RSS feeds. No algorithms.
This is how I solved the modern tech problem.
Ulrich
in reply to dreaper • • •You didn't solve any problems, you just opted out of a whole bunch of features.
dreaper
in reply to Ulrich • • •Features that I really didn't give a crap about in the end. Also, my point still stands; smartphones are way too fragile and high maintenance.
So, I did solve the problem; by choosing not to bother with it. For the sake of my sanity. It was the only sane choice to make, given how stupid (and exploitative) modern smartphones have become. All this has done is set people back, wasting more time for absolutely nothing. Rather than being present, people are walking down the street with a phone in their face. It's a sad future for society. Thankfully, I was born long before smartphones were a thing. So, I know how to live without one.
At least I can say this; I am not crying about why Google or Microsoft is doing "this" or "that" to me all the time in a constant cycle. That's no solution at all. Cutting out the problem was the solution.
Ulrich
in reply to dreaper • • •Walking away does not solve the problem. It just makes it no longer your problem. Everyone else still has to deal with it. Not everyone has that privilege.
dreaper
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in reply to dreaper • • •They're not doing it by choice. The phone is used as mandatory authentication to access the account.
...and how do you suppose your laptop is immune from this? Or your desktop, even?
I'm not avoiding anything. What you fail to understand is that not everyone's situation is the same as yours. For some of us, these things are outside of our control.
dreaper
in reply to Ulrich • • •Ulrich
in reply to dreaper • • •I don't think you understand how SIM swapping works but that's an irrelevant tangent, so I digress.
You are still not understanding what I'm saying: Many banks require an app to be installed on a mobile device (that is, iOS or Android) for account verification in order to access your account. Nothing at all to do with your SIM. You cannot access your account without this app being installed on a mobile device.
Who said anything about doing banking in public?
No. You are.
We're done here.
dreaper
in reply to Ulrich • • •Keep on avoiding the issue then, and keep up the good fight with the smartphone ecosystem. It will never end for you. For as long as you defend the smartphone ecosystem, and that you want to avoid the fact that the smartphone controls your life. This is what I mean; tech, like the smartphone isn't serving the user anymore. Instead, the smartphone has become your master. And you, its slave.
Just look around; people walking down the street with their heads buried in their phones. It tells you all you need to know about who is the master and who is the slave.
PS: Use a different bank if they force you to only use an app. Just a thought? Just like restaurants forcing QR codes; walk away. You can make the choice any time you like. 🙂
Kiloee
in reply to dreaper • • •So tell me how I should solve the second factor required by law when all „dumb tech“ alternatives aren’t available anymore due to laws and regulations?
dreaper
in reply to Kiloee • • •What a shitty law. Is this in the UK? If so, figures.
Well, if the bank apps only support Android and iPhone, you're pretty much hooped. Aren't you? A Linux phone won't help you.
So, the only option is to use the smartphone for nothing but the silly app. Or, do things the old way. Go to the bank and do your banking there.
Then just use the flip phone for the everything else.
youmaynotknow
in reply to Ulrich • • •Ulrich
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in reply to Ulrich • • •That's your best answer? "No problems we're solved because I said so"? 🤣🤣🤣
No wonder you sound so angry here, lol.
Ulrich
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in reply to Ulrich • • •dreaper
in reply to youmaynotknow • • •Eh... Leave him. He was just looking for attention; pretty sure he has every social media app under the sun on his smartphone. And he wants to make excuses that it's for things like banking. Or work, apparently. Seems like a huge cop-out to avoid the real issue at hand; being held hostage on social media because of those addictive algorithms at play. 🙄
Simply put, he doesn't want to take the initiative to make any changes for himself. So, he'll defend that you can't go through life without a smartphone anywhere. That's how much smartphone users of today are held hostage by big tech. Again, the user is the slave, and the smartphone is their master.
Like, why don't I have this problem with banking? Where I 'MUST' use a smartphone? Sure, my bank has an app, but I am not 'forced' to use it. I can get along quite fine with just using a web browser at home.
Seems like many people who use smartphones at every waking hour, forget the whole concept of what freewill is about. 🤣
Ulrich
in reply to dreaper • • •dreaper
in reply to Ulrich • • •youmaynotknow
in reply to dreaper • • •dreaper
in reply to Ulrich • • •You act like a typical social media addict (policing comments that weren't even directed to you; along with being unable to resist commenting). Guess it's clear why you can't bear to live without a smartphone, huh? Keep going. You'll only prove my (and youmaynotknow's) point more. But really, I thought you said you were done with me earlier. Isn't that what you said? Well, I said my piece as far as things one can do. Time for a block. You got enough attention from me.
Enjoy keeping up with the smartphone rat race! 😂
hexagonwin
in reply to dreaper • • •dreaper
in reply to hexagonwin • • •A technique? Yeah. It's called keeping your WIFI off and mobile data off. As in disconnect completely. You'll regain your time and sense of autonomy, and your phone will last a lot longer on a single charge.
Same thing applied when I still had my Pixel 3 phone; it also lasted 2 weeks. I used it literally for nothing but calling. Other than that, it was left on the table untouched, and completely disconnected. Until the screen somehow broke inside and wouldn't turn on, making me decide to just stop using smartphones altogether as they are just too fragile. Not to mention, high maintenance; which I didn't want to deal with anymore.
hexagonwin
in reply to dreaper • • •Cool, not sure why it doesn't work for me :/ I only turn on wifi about once a week to sync new books from my server since I use it as an offline ebook reader.
Haven't had a pixel 3, but do have a pixel 2. Running stock rom because verizon and degoogled with adb and wifi off, only used for occasional quick photo shoots. The battery also only goes for about 3 days.
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in reply to papertowels • • •Resonosity
in reply to Ulrich • • •My next phone will be a Linux phone.
I was on board the Fairphone hype, and while I think they have a good message, I actually think Pine64 does exactly what they do - just without the flashy marketing. Fairphone still uses AOSP as the basis for their OSes, so there is still a risk of hardware lockout by Google. This is leaving alone other issues like no headphone jack and USB 2.0 for the latest generation's USB-C.
This is actually the same reason I think Ecosia won't succeed in the long term unless they build their own search engine. Luckily it looks like they've already started delivering results as of last month.
I should also mention that the PinePhone isn't Scott free from criticism either. Think I read somewhere that the camera is borked because the latest firmware or software update messed with the camera module functionality. No real fix for that soon, which sucks.
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PINE64dreaper
in reply to Resonosity • • •ChaosSpectre
in reply to dreaper • • •Realistically, i think this idea might work well in tandem with a sort of PDA built off a Pi. I use my phone as a computer, because its a computer. The parts of my phone that i need to be a phone are calls and text, as i dont take photos almost ever. Data is nice, but im fairly certain i had seen recently a sim module for Pi devices, so i can just bake it into that instead so i still have a mobile computer.
Someone will eventually make a better phone OS, but in the short term it seems smart to move to a dumb phone and offset everything else to a device tou can actually control.
dreaper
in reply to ChaosSpectre • • •I'm not hoping on that; especially if big tech is involved in anything that becomes mainstream. The best option is just to avoid the mainstream.
That's the real point I am making. But people who put their entire life into their phone are incapable of this. And that's what's depressing about all of this. Because of addictive social media algorithms, people hinge their entire lives on their phone.
bobo
in reply to Resonosity • • •Exactly what they do, except it's not a functional product. "Overpriced, underpowered, and half-finished" is the motto of pine64.
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PINE64Resonosity
in reply to bobo • • •Yeah, as I alluded to at the end of my post, Pine64 has a lot of issues with making their devices actually useful.
They base a lot of their development on the community though. So if the community isn't up to it, then virtually no one at Pine64 is.
bobo
in reply to Resonosity • • •You missed the overpriced and underpowered part. In the EU, the pinephone pro cost 600€, the same as the fairphone 6, and it's significantly worse in every single way. Even if it actually worked, who in their right mind would pay that much for a device that's going to run out of ram as soon as you open a few tabs in Firefox?
I doubt they'll be fixing anything since they seem to have stopped selling them.
Also, if we go by their track record with the pinetime, PRs fixing basic functionality will be left open for years. Like how they can't be bothered to accept fixes allowing the stopwatch to run in the background and not reset when you get a notification, let alone QoL improvements like being able to tell the time on your watch while the stopwatch is running.
Resonosity
in reply to bobo • • •Pine64 stopped selling the PinePhone Pro due to a lack of demand.
The regular PinePhone is still being sold, although a lack of a "Pro" qualifier certainly doesn't help their optics of producing a competent phone at today's standards.
Matt
in reply to Ulrich • • •dreaper
in reply to Matt • • •ThinkPads are built to last. I have one that is 17 years old running as my Pi Hole server to not only clear out all the ads and trackers online, but also any mainstream social media platforms and anything big tech related.
And as the cherry on top, a Raspberry PI to host my own SearXNG instance with a blacklist applied to that as well; to filter mainstream tech sites, big tech and also all mainstream social media platforms from my search results.
It's been refreshing.
Matt
in reply to dreaper • • •dreaper
in reply to Matt • • •Sunsofold
in reply to Ulrich • • •Ardens
in reply to Ulrich • • •I don't agree!
A linux phone, or any other open source alternative, has ALWAYS been more important than the ones we've got. Being locked into an eco-system, has always been bad for the regular user. It's about companies controlling people and the market, and it should never have to be a choice between a rock and a hard place.
I really wish that the Firefox phone had gained more support. And I wish that there will soon be a linux-phone for the regular person, all over the world.
But I guess people in general keep choosing to lock themselves in, by using Google and Apple...
burlemarx
in reply to Ardens • • •It's not a simple matter of choice. Most people aren't invested into open source, they just want to get by and do their mundane things. Most people aren't even aware of all the privacy stuff or abusive practices of big business, it's usually some more outspoken tech savvy person that decides to expose what the big corps are doing. So using open source is not a choice, like you would be just choosing your preferred cereal brand, but both a technical and political act. And most people are just into the system, they aren't aware of all malicious things around them.
Not only that, but also when companies feel threatened, they start imposing new technical and legal restrictions to make using OSS harder. Since they have more control over the whole production supply chain of devices, they have more cost effective options and even partnership with hardware vendors to make using OSS very hard or impossible.
glitching
in reply to Ulrich • • •the vast majority of commenters here either have no direct experience with a Linux phone or have seen some shallow youtube "review" of a dude swiping the same two screens left/right and extrapolate a buncha shit that has no contact with reality.
presently, and in the foreseeable future, linux phones aren't an android alternative, they are just linux on the phone, i.e. they allow you to do linux shit on a handheld device.
like, the bleeding edge version of any variant (plasma mobile, gnome, phosh) isn't even close to an Android phone from like 2015, let alone a modern one.
and that's before we touch on the pillars of mobile tech like fluidity, battery efficiency, reliability, etc., none of those things are even in a remotely passable state, not to mention - using the thing to make calls. you are better off forgetting about the camera, as well.
and the reason is simple, not only is there a gargantuan discrepancy between evil corp's resources and the predominantly unpaid enthusiasts, each dev team's reimplementing shit that's already solved on another platform. apple doesn't have to do that. google as well.
then there's the idea that the javascript-backed Gnome - that has issues running fluidly on super-capable hardware - is the basis on a low-power device on which the linux mobile phone experience is built. reinventing solved shit, but in a stupid way - THREE FINGER swipe on a phone, really?
although there's a solid app base, the apps that are supposedly mobile friendly are few and far between, most are just downright unusable on a vertical screen and dog help you if launch an electron app. firefox, even with pmOS patches (useless without) is tiresome to use. you can forget about dating, ubering, banking, or even just using a messenger everybody else does.
if you're squeamish about flashing custom recoveries and ROMs, the e.g. pmOS install process is way, way, way more involved and failure prone. if you go with ubuntu touch or mobian, even more so.
finally, if you're talking about a device that you've grown accustomed to to the extent that you're using it subconsciously, swiping and multitasking and such whilst walking and dodging other pedestrians - no such thing exists over here.
I'm just tying this up because I keep reading about "switching", people are either delusional or misinformed, there's nothing (yet) to switch to.
get a couple of $50 ex-flaghips to play with, flash lineageOS on one and pmOS on the other and that should hold you over for a coupla years.
Flipper
in reply to glitching • • •glitching
in reply to Flipper • • •that's not a thing, presently. the OS has trouble running on its own and handling "native" apps, let alone introducing an emulation to the mix.
of course, it can and does work to some extent - but not one where you depend on it, like you do with modern phones.
quick_snail
in reply to Flipper • • •Ulrich
in reply to glitching • • •glitching
in reply to Ulrich • • •I'm not critiquing your post, I'm just clarifying to a buncha people who think otherwise that it's not an option.
as to "it needs to accelerate", I have a grim outlook. the only way it's gonna do that is if there significant cash behind it and if everything non-essential is to be trimmed so that a functional platform can emerge. in our ever-enshittifying, greater-fool-theory investment climate, it's doubtful there loose capital with such an agenda, and I doubt such a thing is even on the horizon.
same way with "desktop linux"; like, can you image where we'd be if every development effort is geared towards just one DE/WM, instead of tons of duplicated efforts and abandoned paths? yeah, good things eventually emerge from all the disjointed chaos, but eventually. and our joint assessment is that we're running outta time for the "eventual" part.
Ulrich
in reply to glitching • • •glitching
in reply to Ulrich • • •see, this is the thing I'm talking about. your comment indicates that it's possibly a viable alternative to OS developed by the wealthiest corps in the world, for 15+ years and people are like "ok, there's options"...
it is nowhere near that. it's linux on a mobile device, and that's such a humongously, vastly different thing than an alternative and that should be the first and foremost thing said. same with the "android is linux" bozos in every thread (it really, really isn't) who are not helping the issue, at all.
and then we can dwell on whether it's usable or not in its present state.
Ulrich
in reply to glitching • • •It already is. It's just a matter of porting it over to a different form factor.
quick_snail
in reply to glitching • • •What dating apps work in Andorid? Lol
Piece_Maker
in reply to glitching • • •What?? PmOS and Ubuntu Touch both have very easy, foolproof installers. No idea about Mobian to be fair.
I've been using only Linux-based mobile OS's since my first smartphone, and while you're right for a lot of the new breed made for the Pinephone and Librem, Sailfish OS and Ubuntu Touch are both perfectly useable for lots of people. Both have a decent app ecosystem and both support running Android apps to fill in the gaps (I've used both, the proprietary Jolla one is about as good as it gets and is practically seamless for like 99% of Android apps).
Of course there's going to be people who will respond to me to say they can't possibly switch because of that one app that they and 5 other people in the world use, as though they're in any way relevant to what I've said. Just the same as when I post about people switching to Linux on the desktop and there's always that one Fusion 360 user who thinks everyone in the world also uses Fusion and so Linux can't possibly ever work for anyone.
glitching
in reply to Piece_Maker • • •Crozekiel
in reply to Piece_Maker • • •To be fair, Fusion 360 is pretty good... I hate to love it, to miss it. I can't wrap my head around the work flow in FreeCAD.
But more often I am shocked by people saying they have to stay on windows because of Office... Like, the fuck? MS doesn't even want you to have that installed on your computer anymore and is pushing all web based, but that is going to keep you on Windows?? Nothing there is particularly hungry, just put it in a VM if you absolutely can't get by with one of the several great alternatives.
FosterMolasses
in reply to glitching • • •Thank you. I get what OP is saying, but in general I'm so over the constant blind Linux fanboy hype train, like it's the solution to everything. One of the reasons I can't really stand to be on this instance unless I see something important enough to hit the front page. I'll take a remotely functional windows dist with customized features over pretty much any linux OS anyday in order to not struggle to complete the most basic, essential tasks.
Life's too short to spend glued to Stackexchange instead of actually getting shit done.
Crozekiel
in reply to FosterMolasses • • •Busyvar
in reply to Ulrich • • •Currently i am looking for a Jolla phone commerce.jolla.com/products/jo…
They are private company but seems to be very user friendly and carefull with their dev community. What do you think about them folks?
Jolla C2 Community Phone
Jolla Shopgoldkiddo
in reply to Busyvar • • •quick_snail
in reply to Ulrich • • •Meh, this will just push more people to not install gapps. None of these issues affect folks who don't install gapps.
The best apps are on fdroid, anyway. If I was a Dev I wouldn't bother putting it on Google play, anyway
Ulrich
in reply to quick_snail • • •It absolutely does, if you actually read the OP.
quick_snail
in reply to Ulrich • • •Crozekiel
in reply to quick_snail • • •How delusional are you? Samsung holds over 20% of the worldwide mobile phone market, only beat by Apple by a few percent.
And that is ignoring the obvious trend from Google to lock down the Android ecosystem to only them and their partners. If they have their way, they will make 3rd party ROMs nearly impossible, block all 3rd party apps, and close the door on fdroid. Maybe what has been done so far doesn't affect you, but if no one gets in their way, it absolutely will and soon.
bridgeenjoyer
in reply to Ulrich • • •Is it possible to have my normal shitty samsung for stuff that wont work on a linux phone, and have like a pinephone for simple calls and stuff, but have them both use the same phone # ? I doubt.
Cuz when hiking or something I like a phone for safety but I dont want distractions.
Ulrich
in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •Dharma Curious
in reply to Ulrich • • •mariusafa
in reply to Ulrich • • •I just hope that this time we go Free Software and not committing the mistake of going Open Source for a 3rd time (BSD/UNIX AT&T; Android/Google). Unless we want to fall with the same stone yet once more.
Android going Open Source allowed Google to close Android once it got mature. It's a Trojan Horse, yet people still go Open Source and then complain when some company closes their source.
smiletolerantly
in reply to mariusafa • • •youmaynotknow
in reply to Ulrich • • •viewports
in reply to Ulrich • • •It would be cool to see people move beyond the standard smartphone and into some sort of hotspot and linux based palmtop or umpc like setup
I had something like that in the early 2000s with a nokia n800 and it worked well enough I'm sure it would be even better now
Tydragon
in reply to Ulrich • • •It’s not daily-driver ready for everyone, but it frees you from Google and OEM lockdowns.
If we want an open mobile future, this is the project worth supporting.
ArmchairAce1944
in reply to Tydragon • • •Mwa
in reply to Ulrich • • •also i am pretty sure Google cannot fully get rid of AOSP, especially Android is put on any phone that isn't Google.
tho even before the Goolog fuckery these things where there.
Samsung required a a leaked program to Unlock its bootloader(Odin which is proprietary), and would trip Knox.
Xiaomi required a wait time to unlock its bootloader, and the unlocking bootloader thingy is proprietary.
Banking apps wouldnt work with root and stuff, even before the Play Integrity API forcing thingy.