Gothic Stammtisch
Der Gothic Stammtisch Heidelberg findet diesen Monat eine Woche später abweichend am 🗓️ Freitag, 29. Mai ab 18:00 Uhr statt.
Das Konzept ist einfach: Kommt vorbei und entspannt euch zu einem kühlen Drink zum Spendenpreis, vertieft euch in Gespräche mit Gleichgesinnten oder vertreibt euch die Zeit mit Gesellschaftsspielen. Für musikalische Untermalung ist selbstverständlich gesorgt, es darf also auch gerne getanzt werden. 🍻 🎶
Der Eintritt ist stets frei. Bitte beachtet das Konzept und die Hausregeln hinsichtlich Awareness, Toleranz und Respekt untereinander, die sich vor Ort im Aushang befinden, damit wir einen Safe Space für alle Gleichgesinnten in der Schwarzen Szene in Heidelberg schaffen können. 🦇 🌈
Wo: Murx, Oberbadgasse 6, 69117 Heidelberg (Altstadt)
Wann: 29. Mai, ab 18 Uhr
ÖPNV: Rathaus/Bergbahn, Heidelberg und Alte Brücke, Heidelberg
Barrierefreiheit: Für Menschen mit Rollstuhl weitgehend barrierearm
#Murx #GothicStammtisch #SchwarzesHeidelberg #DJSubutex #Heidelberg #Altstadt #SchwarzeSzeneHeidelberg @Heidelberg
DFX4509B (Joshua Mason)
in reply to TROM • • •Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️
in reply to TROM • • •So first up, I am not a lawyer, even if I play one on TV. Seems to me though that even if you didn't post the video, that if your server is seeding it, then technically you, among others, *are* hosting it?
Surely in this case though you could comply just by defederating that particular piece of content / user?
It's interesting though that Amazon are recognizing Peertube content, even if just for copyright. That to me suggests they're keeping an eye on it, even if they likely don't consider it a major threat... yet.
#Peertube #Amazon #Copyright
TROM
in reply to Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️ • • •Strypey
in reply to Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️ • • •> if your server is seeding it, then technically you, among others, *are* hosting it?
I don't think that's how @peertube works. Remote videos are discoverable by searching on a PT service, but it's the viewer that's seeding them by watching (because WebTorrent), not the PT service providing the search results.
You're right that copyright lawyers and often judges haven't cared much about such nuances though, or we would have won the CopyWars.
@trom
Alyx
in reply to TROM • • •@peertube
FinchHaven sfba
in reply to TROM • • •"The video in question, a documentary about "aliens", a garbage piece of content, was NOT hosted on our instance, of course"
As other have said (and may yet say) IANAL
*That said* there is a vast difference between "hosted on" and "served from"
Your instance may *not* be the sole source for that content, but if a video consumer *gets* it though you, guess what?
It doesn't matter what "makes sense"
This is law, and lawyer-speak
Good luck with it
cc @peertube@framapiaf.org
TROM
in reply to FinchHaven sfba • • •FinchHaven sfba
in reply to TROM • • •What you "like" or "think should happen" is utterly irrelevant
And you clearly don't understand the usage of the word "Federated"
Which is super common around here
Being federated makes *every* federated instance the [a] source
There is no one single point source -- the sources are all federated into multi-point "sources"
TROM
in reply to FinchHaven sfba • • •Rokosun
in reply to FinchHaven sfba • • •Strypey
in reply to FinchHaven sfba • • •(1/2)
@FinchHaven
> And you clearly don't understand the usage of the word "Federated"
You probably intended this as a nonchalant segue into your next point (I've done this). But FYI it comes across as quite patronising and out of context. @trom is hosting a PeerTube server. Chances are they have a pretty good understanding of the range of things "federated" can mean in this context.
Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •(2/2)
You're not wrong that a lawyer might see a search result as a 'source' for copyright purposes. This is exactly what they've done with TPB et al. But ...
@FinchHaven
> federated makes *every* federated instance the [a] source
On Mastodon et al, yes. Because text posts are automatically delivered in full to everyone following the account that posted it. But PeerTube doesn't work that way, it just sends a title and a link to followers (or the wasted storage and bandwidth would be extreme).
Birdhouse in Your [Redacted]
in reply to TROM • • •TROM
in reply to Birdhouse in Your [Redacted] • • •panu
in reply to TROM • • •Well. I think this is analogous for holding torrent tracker owners liable for torrent content.
The contents of torrents tracked by a tracker never go even near the tracker. The tracker only helps leechers find seeders. But still, somehow, magically, the tracker owner is doing the copyright infringement.
@peertube
me
in reply to TROM • • •Gossi the dog had a similar issue, but from a Microsoft linked company.
Reponse was to reply to the email saying we are launching at you hete on the internet. Because Microsoft don't understand how the internet works, then a link to the discussion thread.
Gondor
in reply to TROM • • •Despite any right or wrong. That's how power works. And the fediverse is not save from oligarchs and/or their power.
We should keep this in mind. And hopefully find a way to avoid such threats somehow.
No one/admin can risk any lawsuit were the other side is something like A.
Kolja
in reply to TROM • • •If Hetzner causes you issues DM me i am sure we can find an easy solution.
TROM
in reply to Kolja • • •