TROMjaro: Trade-Free means you do what you like videos.trom.tf/w/qNgxvDCXxWHxA…
A video we made 2 years ago, but still relevant today. We moved from Gnome to XFCE since then, so even more freedom! :)
A series of videos we made about showcasing why TROMjaro is what it is. Trade-Free! https://www.tromjaro.com/videos.trom.tf
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Our first example of forced takedown has to do with our Nitter instance. Nitter is a front end for Twitter, a proxy service. All it does is requesting a page from Twittter on your (the visitor) behalf. It will only display the Twitter content, without trackers and using its own (more humane theme). It is not storing any data on the server.
Our instance: bird.trom.tf/
No page on bird.trom.tf/ exists unless you visit it to generate it. Remember this.
On 11/8/22, 17:35 we have received this from our hosting provider:
Dear ******,We have received complaints about your VPS XL SSD, specifically about the following IP address(es):
*******
Please see the forwarded e-mail below for more details. Apparently, your VPS XL SSD is used for phishing which is strictly forbidden by our ToS.
Abuse is a serious threat in the Internet and can cause a huge amount of damage; thus, we ask for your understanding that once an ABUSE case is reported to us, we must handle abuse strictly and with no tolerance.
Please take immediate action to stop the ongoing server misuse. It is required that you solve the problem within the next 12 hours, and that we receive your reply within this period, too. Your reply must contain all information which enable us to understand exactly which measures you took to stop the abuse and prevent such or similar incidents in the future.
We will suspend access to your VPS XL SSD if we do not receive your reply within the given time frame, and if the problem is not solved in due time; both is essential - the solution and your response. The reactivation of a VPS XL SSD always demands a reactivation fee of at least €36.30. Please respond in due time to save these expenses.
We would appreciate your immediate attention to this matter.
Original complaint from tfp.report.ctac@appgate.com
Subject: Unauthorized Use of Trademark
The original complaint that was sent to our hosting provider was this:
Greetings,
This is an official message from AppGate, on behalf of our Banco del Pacifico G.F.
We need your cooperation in the removal of the content located in the site:
bird.trom.tf/BancoPacificoEC
The target site is the following URL(s):
twitter.com/BancoPacificoEC
We kindly ask you to shut down this content as soon as possible. We expect a prompt and affirmative response.Thanks for helping make the Internet safer.
Sincerely,
DTP Team - Appgate
We replied:
Dear Contabo,For one bird.trom.tf/BancoPacificoEC is a front-end access to the twitter page twitter.com/BancoPacificoEC. It is not a content that is available on our server. We are using Nitter a Twitter front-end github.com/zedeus/nitter . Like thousands do. How can we be responsible for the Twitter content now? This is not something we can ever remove since it is not on our server. Please understand.
Second, did you check to see if this bank account is phishing? bancodelpacifico.com/ - they have a verified Twitter account and all that. They seem like any other bank...
Please get back to me on this or put me in contact with the ones who filled the complain.
Cheers!
I thought for sure that they accuse us of mirroring a real Twitter phishing account.
But well, we were worried that they will shut down our entire server that hosts 20+ Open Source services that thousands of people use, so the same day we sent another email because no one would reply:
So this is a proxy service, mind you. If the ones contacting you are the owners of that Twitter account please make them aware that it is legal to host proxies and we do not host any materials from this proxy on our server. Here is a discussion about Nitter and DMCA github.com/zedeus/nitter/issue…Sent one more because we were stressed by the 12 hour deadline they gave us:
Hello,bird.trom.tf hosts Nitter, a private Twitter front-end, meaning it is simply a proxy to access Twitter assets and user generated content without tracking from Twitter. Thus, all content is proxied from Twitter and is not stored on our servers and if Twitter chooses to remove an asset, it will no longer appear on our site.
Our bird.trom.tf is hosted in the European Union, so the European Union's laws apply. Under the directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonization of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society, "temporary acts of reproduction referred to in Article 2, which are transient or incidental [and] an integral and essential part of a technological process and whose sole purpose is to enable: a transmission in a network between third parties by an intermediary" is allowed, and legal.
As such, all takedown requests must be sent to Twitter, as we don't have any control on the data that they have on their servers.
Thank you,
After several hours of no reply we sent one more:
So please be mindful and do not remove our server. The link bird.trom.tf/BancoPacificoEC is not phishing. You gave me 12h to fix the problem and since you have not replied for the past hours I am concerned about that short deadline. I may not be available for the next 10 hours from now on, simply because I may be asleep, so please do not remove our server as it has not breached any of your ToS.We got no reply until 22/8/22 10:46. 11 days later! We got this:
Dear ****,So, where is the final solution? We will give 12 hours to finally close this case.
If you have any questions or need help, please do not hesitate to contact us.
And we replied:
Hello,bird.trom.tf hosts Nitter, a private Twitter front-end, meaning it is simply a proxy to access Twitter assets and user generated content without tracking from Twitter. Thus, all content is proxied from Twitter and is not stored on our servers and if Twitter chooses to remove an asset, it will no longer appear on our site.
Our bird.trom.tf (Nitter) is hosted in the European Union, so the European Union's laws apply. Under the directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonization of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society, "temporary acts of reproduction referred to in Article 2, which are transient or incidental [and] an integral and essential part of a technological process and whose sole purpose is to enable: a transmission in a network between third parties by an intermediary" is allowed, and legal.As such, all takedown requests must be sent to Twitter, as we don't have any control on the data that they have on their servers.
I am waiting for your response.Cheers!
An hour later, no reply. We emailed again:
Please reply today so we can settle this. If you want you can even call me. My phone number is in my account details. I would be illegal under the EU law to remove my server because of a legal service. A proxy one that does not store any data on your servers.I am waiting for your reply!
2 hours later, no reply, we emailed them again:
I could also seek the advice and involvement of the Electronic Frontier Foundation about this case, because if you decide to remove our server for something that is legally protected, then the precedent is dangerous and needs to be addressed.I have contacted you a few hours ago and you did not reply, yet you gave me 12h to solve this issue and/or to contact you, which I have done.
So please reply to me and please do not remove the server.
Two more hours later, no reply. Being concerned that they will remove our entire server we decided to make that Nitter link not accessible via Nginx. That's the best we could do. We were forced to do that because no one at Contabo would even engage with us over this. We had no options. It was a mafia style "non-discussion", "do as I told you" approach by the Contabo company.
We emailed:
The URL bird.trom.tf/BancoPacificoEC is now gone. This is an illegal request and I felt bullied into removing a link that did not host anything phishing related and no content at all. This is not ok and I will contact several organizations to help me with this abuse.You should understand that what the complaint requested was an illegal request, but since I was threatened with the closure of my entire server in less than 12h, and thus over 20 websites hosted there, I was forced to remove that URL.
Now that the URL is gone, you can close this case. I will contact you soon in regards to this decission.
And emailed again:
Tomorrow I will not be home for most of the day, and now that the link has be removed (unfairly) you have no reason to delete our server. I hope you are reasonable people and act the same. And not forget that I've been forced to remove a link that was neither phishing, nor did it store any content. It was a proxy link from a very popular proxy service called Nitter.They replied:
Dear ****,Thank you very much for your response.
The complaint seems to be solved; thus, we have closed this case and no further steps are requested from your side at the moment. If we should receive further complaints about your used services, we will contact you again.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Fuck them! "thank you for your cooperation"....motherfuckers. There was no cooperation. It was them forcing me to remove a URL that was not a phishing URL as it was claimed to be, nor did it store any content.
I replied:
Dear Contabo,This was far from "cooperation", I was forced by you to remove a link that was not phishing, nor did it contain any content. You refused to reply to any of my arguments or look into this.
I am terribly disappointed in you, and I will stop recommending Contabo to anyone.
I will do my best to forward this case to different organizations that could help me pierce through your silence, because you have been bullied by whatever company contacted you, to remove a legal link, and thus abuse people like me who are paying for your service.
Do you have any comments in regards to your decision to force me to remove that URL?
And now I will try to contact EFF or other similar organizations about this issue. If anyone can help, please let me know. If this becomes the norm, then any link from any of our website, can be subject to removal.
This is unacceptable.
UPDATE.
25.08.22
The company:
Thank you for your response.There are new changes in Germany regarding copyright violations that forced us to remove all domains from our network that are providing protected contents.
Either you provide for us and every visitor the declaration of consent of the right holder to each individual product or its confirmation that you are the right holder. Otherwise, we will be forced to remove this website. This comes also in action for redirections, quotes and shared posts.
We know that this is strict, but we are bound by the law and hope for your understanding.
Us:
Would would be kind to tell me what set of laws we are talking about? This is extremely strict. Sounds like you are not allowed to host anything but your own personal photos for example.Second, are these laws only applying for the servers hosted in Germany by Contabo? Would it be better to migrate to a different region?
Them:
Thank you for your e-mail.Yes, the German copyright law is really very strict, and affects all companies based in Germany, including in our case our data centers in other countries.
The copyright law states that content may only be uploaded if its creator or owner has explicitly confirmed this.
Us:
Hi,I felt like I was given no chance to defend myself when you contacted me. And I contacted others for legal advice and I was given some, but you had ignored it. You did not address it at all. I showed you that proxy services are legal in all of the EU "Under the directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001". So how am I going to know if what you did was legal or not if I am not provided any details about your decision?
Do you understand my frustration?
Right now, based on my experience with Contabo, you guys can any day ask me to remove any link at your will, and I cannot do a thing about it. This is truly disturbing to me.
Now can you please take your time and explain to me under what exact law does it say it is illegal in Germany to host a proxy service that uses the official API of Twitter, which allows exactly for what we are doing with bird.trom.tf (Nitter).
Please take your time and explain to me. I think it is fair towards me to have an explanation of this.
Thanks
Them:
we don't have to have a legal debate, because I don't think there's a lawyer sitting on either side right now. It is also completely irrelevant: We don't want our network to be affected, by repeated complaints. We are allowed to protect our reputation, and that is what we are doing here. Besides, it's perfectly clear that you can't use someone else's copyright.It is clear by now that they just bend to whoever contacts them with an abuse report. They do not want or have the resources to do anything more than bully their "clients" into taking down whatever it is requested. Not surprised...
Carbon Offsets: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver ytb.trom.tf/watch?v=6p8zAbFKpW…
Trade trade, trade trade, trade trade....as long as we are compelled and trained to trade, that's our priority. Does not matter if it is a company or an individual. #TradeRuinsEverything #tromlive
John Oliver explains what carbon offsets are, what they claim to do, how they might be making climate change even worse, and, of course, how Oscar Isaac is getting hotter. Connect with Last Week Tonight online...Invidious
@TROM
Thanks a lot for sharing that video, its very informative. I've heard before that these so called "Carbon Offsets" where a scam, but I didn't know they were this much harmful and outright ridiculous. I should've known, because how can you use trades to solve an issue that has been created by this trade based society in the first place!?
And all of these companies showing you ads saying "Zero carbon footprint", please don't fall for that BS. You can't "undo your emissions" by throwing money at it 🤦
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How is TROMjaro different from Manjaro?
Here are several changes that are unique to TROMjaro:
- We have built a Layout Switcher for XFCE, that allows anyone to quickly switch between 6 different layouts.
- We have built our own Theme Switcher for XFCE: 10 accent colors, light/dark variants. Unlike any theme switcher that we are aware of, this one is able to apply our TROMjaro themes to pretty much all of the Linux apps out there (QT, GTK, GTK + LIbadwaita, Flatpaks). And work properly with them.
- We ship with a lot of hand-picked Wallpapers that are more or less unique to our distro.
- We co-create the default TROMjaro icon pack, and therefore we make hundreds of custom icons for TROMjaro.
- We have enabled Global Menus and HUD
- We added a lot more options for the Settings Manager, such as the ability to configure touchpad/mouse gestures, RGB lights, system and files backup, webcam, added a system cleaner and a lot more. Therefore a more complete set of Settings.
- We added gestures for mouse, touchpad and touchscreen.
- We test TROMjaro on touchscreen devices too, and optimize for that. For example we ship with a customized Virtual Keyboard.
- We enabled Flatpaks and AUR, plus we have our own small repository. Thus, users have full access to pretty much all apps that are available in Linux, from the get-go.
- We added support for Appimages.
- TROMjaro creates a system backup automatically every time there are important updates.
- We made sure that pretty much all common files (video, audio, documents, images) are opened with properly tested apps from the get-go. Meaning, you do nor have to worry about your files. Double click them and they simply work. We also added support for .torrents files.
- We ship with a heavily tweaked Firefox. We have removed most annoyances and trackers from Firefox, plus added a handful of addons and set them up, so that users will be protected from the online trades (ads and trackers are removed, alongside promotional content from youtube videos). Users can also save webpages or media files from Firefox directly.
- We’ve added a few unique and useful apps to TROMjaro, like a trade-free VPN, a simple file sharing app, messenger, and so forth.
- Lastly, we have our own web app library – we test thousands of apps and add only the trade-free ones to our library. TROMjaro users can directly install any of them from the website itself.
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🇲🇦 Immer mehr Vermisste:
Jalal Abderrahmane Mahmoud
21 Jahre, aus dem #Sudan🇸🇩
vermisst seit dem #MelillaMassacre am 24. Juni.
#Nador #Melilla #BordersKill
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🇬🇷 #Pushbacks in Griechenland als generelle Anti-Immigrationspolitik, mit Praktiken, die rassistische Staatsverbrechen sind: Pushbacks sind zu einem standardisierten Verfahren geworden.
#RefugeesGr #antireport
Dimitris Koros via @VassilisTsarnas
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We have removed out Bilbiogram instance from our TROM.tf suite of services. It is being discontinued teddit.net/r/privacy/comments/… plus it never really worked. Instagram is a devil-child of Facebook/Meta, and Facebook trades human minds (content, attention, time, etc.). Thus, Instagram is not happy to let such frontends like bibliogram run. It runs against their trading business. A battle Instagram will always win.
People should not use instagram. Use Pixelfed pixelfed.org/ - federated, trade-free. #tromlive
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TROM Presentation at Atlantykron 2022 videos.trom.tf/w/rToaoUqGZATe2…
@Alexio gave a presentation at atlantykron.org and showcased the many tools that we have.
"The Atlantykron Project is a living experiment of education in nature. The academy brings together world leading experts, the latest learning tools and technologies, and youth from many countries. This combination of teaching, learning and living in a natural and wild environment creates an educational and life experience like no other. "
Unfortunately the presentation is only in the Romanian language. We have added subtitles in different languages but they are auto-translated so they are likely not that great. In any case, the important thing is that Alexio did the presentation. We need more Alexio's!
Anyone can present TROM everywhere they can. This helps us spread the core message of the project, that trade is the source of most problems. And to also showcase the many trade-free tools that we have.
Thank you Alexio!
Visit https://etic.tf/links/trom for the outline of the presentation made by Alexio for the STRING Center at Atlantykron 2022.videos.trom.tf
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BE AWARE: The next few days we will upgrade our tromsite.com server to the new Debian + Yunohost release. This is a once in a few years upgrade probably, so it may take a while. Our websites may not work. Here are the websites that will be affected:
- TROMjaro.com
- TROMnews.com
- TROMsite.com
- Directory.Trade-Free.org
- Social.TROMsite.com
- Trade-Free.org
- VideoNeat.com
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The risks are like with any other online password manager: our server can be compromised or not working properly and such, and you may lose all of your passwords. That's the reason we are skeptical about providing such a service. But since it has many advantages like the ease of use across devices, we are thinking of providing such a service.
It is up to you, to let us know if you want that.
End #pushbacks at the borders of #Greece!
Schluss mit Pushbacks an Griechenlands Greenzen!
Kommt zur griech. Botschaft in #Berlin, um gegen die #Pushbacks von #Griechenland & #Frontex zu protestieren und zeigt Solidarität mit People on the Move!
➡️ 17. August, 13 Uhr
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The hosting provide that we use for our websites contacted us. Someone sent them an email saying:
Greetings,
This is an official message from AppGate, on behalf of our Banco del Pacifico G.F.
We need your cooperation in the removal of the content located in the site:
bird.trom.tf/BancoPacificoEC
The target site is the following URL(s):
twitter.com/BancoPacificoEC
We kindly ask you to shut down this content as soon as possible. We expect a prompt and affirmative response.
Thanks for helping make the Internet safer.
Sincerely,
DTP Team - Appgate
As far as we understand BancoPacificoEC contacted them to complain that they noticed their "twitter" page accessed via our Nitter instance. But Nitter (bird.trom.tf) does not host any files, it is a proxy (twitter front-end). We have explained it all to the hosting provider. Hopefully they are smart enough to understand this. We are told if this is not solved in 12h they will shut down our trom.tf server.
These complaints come from humans that have no idea how the internet works or what it is. We will update you whenever we get a response from them. #tromlive
One of my arguments is that one of Elon Musk’s contributions to transportation over the past decade or so is really to try to stifle alternatives, things that would try to get people out of cars. Because he is this automaker, he has this desire for people to take cars instead of taking transit.
Is anyone surprised that Musk's incentive is to sell more cars? The same situation, over and over again, for centuries now. "business" humans trying to trade their shit, one way or another, by all means.
Read the entire interview here, quite telling and not surprising.
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⚫️ 1 Boot mit ~80 Pers. aus dem #Irak und #Afghanistan ist bei #Rhodos🇬🇷 gesunken. Das Boot war bei starkem Wind in Schwierigkeiten geraten. Es gibt viele Vermisste: Bislang konnten nur 29 Menschen lebend geborgen werden.
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Am Morgen des 12. Juli setzte die @HCoastGuard⚓🇬🇷 58 Menschen in 3 Rettungsinseln vor Dikili🇹🇷 aus.
Das eingesetzte HCG Patrouillenboot war zu 90% aus dem -Fonds🇪🇺💶 für innere Sicherheit finanziert worden - Verbrechen, bezahlt von #EU-Steuerzahler*innen.
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Here's another example of how people are entirely confused about what is free and what is not, and why our trade-free approach makes so much sense.
We have added this peer to peer file sharing app to TROMjaro's Library: SoulSeek. This app is great. It allows you to connect with others directly, and share files with them. No server involved. We wanted to share our VideoNeat library on the network. However if you look closely they limit your experience. And if you donate currency to them you get this:
While they call themselves entirely free:
So, it is free, but you have to pay to unlock certain features....makes so much sense indeed!
Actually they call those trades, donations. And the word and concept of "donation" got ruined alongside that of "free". Donations should be voluntary and not used for the purpose of trade. If you "donate" currency to me in return for some features, then that is a trade. You are buying from me. As simple as that.
Therefore our concept of trade free is so simple and destroys all of these nonsensicalities: What Am I Trading? Ask that. And if you do, then you realize that you need to trade currency for Soulseek to give you more features. Therefore this app is not trade-free.
The reason it was added to our TROMjaro library is that either we could not detect this trade since they are charlatan enough to hide them well, or it was not present when the app was added. Needless to say it was immediately removed.
We need more than ever this "trade as the original of most problems" approach and the "trade-free" antidote. Without them we are going into a deep and ugly confusion. A black hole of that! #tromlive
Nicotine+ is a graphical client for the Soulseek peer-to-peer network.
It was removed from TROMjaro as well. It has the same "non features" as the main one. You are limited in terms of download queues and such.
There are other trade-free similar apps like tromjaro.com/tixati/ or tromjaro.com/gtk-gnutella/ and so on.
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A huge and massive thank you again to @Roma for the huge 500 Euros donation to TROM. Amazing help hard to believe. We are working furiously on TROM II and we keep all of our 30+ trade-free projects alive and relevant. Any donation prolongs our work. We do not buy fancy shit, unnecessary things, or anything except food to support us, and pay the bills.
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Die #Iuventa heute: in #Trapani, seit 5 Jahren an der Kette (und ein laufendes Gerichtsverfahren gegen 21 Seenotretter*innen), Konsequenz ital. & europ. Politik.
Während dessen sterben weiter Menschen auf See...
#FreeIuventa
#SeaRescueIsNotACrime
#FightForSolidarity
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Warum diese Agentur verschwinden muss:
Das Management von #Frontex war "der Ansicht, dass sich zu sehr auf die Menschenrechte konzentriert".
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While TROM is focused mostly (if not entirely) on the digital world and creates/enables a ton of trade-free alternatives for digital services, someone like Colin is trying to make people share physical goods, but also services (online or offline). His project ShareBay sharebay.org/ recently got a new design. Check it out and use it if you can.
In the future TROM will also create more such projects that reach beyond the digital, and will try to push the education/information via such projects. We may even collab with Colin on this project.
Great job Colin, one of the few who keeps on being active and doing important projects. #tromlive
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Reading this article about libadwaita and how pity the arguments are in favor of using it. I was expecting more.
Basically they argue that they use libadwaita since custom themes were not always perfect and people were reporting issues with apps because of that, and the devs were annoyed because these were issues with the themes and not the app itself. That’s the main idea. Such a weak argument. Let me explain.
We are talking about Linux here. Multiple kernels, multiple distros, multiple desktop environments. This is a world of variety so of course there will be some sort of inconsistency in some regards. If I use theme A and 1 out of 10 apps doesn’t look that good, then I think that’s acceptable considering this huge variety in the Linux world. So Gnome seems to not understand that this is the nature of Linux. And they won’t change it. What now, make the Gnome apps not run on XFCE, Mate, Arch, kernel 5.4 just because they are not the official Gnome + whatever kernel they use, and they may not be 100% looking and behaving like on the original gnomiverse?!
Friends, the gnome extensions also break the gnome desktop here and there, from theme to functionality. I’ve used it. We all know that. You wanna bet their next move is to not officially support any extensions?
Soon Gnome won’t support anything but Gnome. Just so that 100% of their few apps look as they want them to look. Good luck with that!
It is ridiculous to argue that users were seeing apps that look broken and they reported that to the devs, while not realizing that now they create an even bigger issue: gnome is a small part of the linux world, and if gnome enforces certain themes for their gnome apps, then users will see that these apps do not respect the system’s themes and…guess what…report that to the devs! You ain’t solving anything, you create more problems.
With some tweaks you can make the GTK and QT apps sync in terms of theming, plus force flatpaks to respect the system’s theme too, at least for some of them. In this way most apps look as they should. I have tested thousands of apps so far for our TROMjaro Linux, and we have implemented a robust theming system, granted hacky when it comes to, you guessed it, libadwaita.
There, some 700 apps are published (I test more than I publish). I’d say 98% look great. With a custom theme. You can find screenshots for all apps posted there, from TROMjaro.
As an example, they showcase how PoP OS and Ubuntu fail with the theming. They say look at Ubuntu how badly it deals with the default Gnome Fonts app:
Bad contrast, black font preview with a dark theme. Guess how the same app looks on TROMjaro?
See? Theming done right. On Ubuntu is not that bad either, but how come TROMjaro, a 1.5 men team, does it better than Ubuntu!? Because we care about theming! It is not that difficult.
Here it is with a light theme in TROMjaro:
Looks Perfect!
Another example they show us: look at the Characters Gnome app in PoP OS, again poor contrast and they said misplaced characters - I suppose they are referring to the dividing lines and how characters overlap:
I agree. Poor contrast. Not in TROMjaro:
You could say characters misplaced too…but then I installed the “pure” Gnome Characters with Libadwaira and guess what? Yeah…characters misplaced:
Speaking of that, if I see this app in libadwaita form on my System, not respecting the theme (buttons, top bar, dark mode, font) then I will send a message to the devs. 
Lastly they show us the app Contrast in PoP OS, and they say " White background in Contrast":
What do they want to say, that the color pick boxes are white on a Dark theme? If so, not in TROMjaro:
They exaggerate the issue by showcasing some PoPular OSes that do a bad job at implementing a proper theme. But I bet they do a bad job ALSO because Gnome or others, are very unfriendly at letting others theme their apps. So you have to kinda find hacky solutions like we did. The irony…if they made it easier for developers to theme their apps, then there will be less inconsistencies…
So they show us OBS as an example of how some QT apps are also an issue when it comes to custom theming. And this gives birth to two main issues with Gnome. First, they say look at OBS it looks like so on any system regardless of the theme:
And I agree. It looks like that. That’s because OBS enforces their own theme, but in settings one can choose the system theme. And they say if you do that in KDE it still doesn’t look that good:
Poor contrast: dark button icons on a dark theme. And TROMjaro suffers from this too:
But let’s be honest, it is not that fuckin’ bad. I’ll put up with this for a very very few apps, and have a consistent desktop experience overall, rather than having 100 apps with 100 different themes. Any-day! On top of this I’d report this to the theme dev and icon dev, so they can fix these. Am sure they can. If not, it is ok. Relax Gnome!
But the core point here is that some apps respect the users and give them this option. If I dislike this “baaad” contrast in OBS I will select one of their built-in themes. They allow it. So why not is Gnome doing the same? Be friendly with the theme developers and make libadwaita easily themable, and also add an option to let users select a system’s theme. This way you can have your favorite libadwaita theme for any Gnome apps, plus a “broken” (as you think) system theme that the users can choose. See? Solution!
Second point about their QT example: is the Gnome team realizing the irony here? You show me a QT app that looks a little bit bad, a little bit, when themed in KDE with the system’s theme. But if OBS was GTK + Libadwaita it would not respect the theme at all! And no way to even let you select the system’s theme. Which one is better? Are these people blind, or am I going crazy?
Gnome sees itself as an isolated thing. Like a cult almost. As if you use Gnome only with the Gnome apps, preferably with Debian and only install the Gnome Apps from flatpak. This way you get the “pure” Gnome experience. But people on Arch + XFCE also wanna use the Gnome Apps, They have no freakin’ Gnome control center to change the theme to dark/light mode or select a highlight color. Gnome does not think about anyone but the devoted gnome users it seems.
They removed the top bar from the GTK apps, disabling a plethora of features for many systems, such as minimizing to the top bar a window, better integration with whatever desktop you are using, right click options in some cases, top panel integration, and more. Now the top bar in gnome apps looks huge and has no functionality other than saving a tiny bit of vertical space, as if that was important. They also killed the global menus…and now they wanna kill the theming.
But the thing is that they kill themselves. They might be cocky as to how big Gnome is, but Linux is far bigger. TROMjaro still have a proper theming, even for the libadwaita apps via a hack, and still has a top pannel integration with the windows, and global menus. There are only a few apps, the Gnome ones, that ruin a bit the user experience: no global menus for them and no proper integration with the top bar.
Gnome does not care about the users if they remove features that are useful and necessary. They fantasize to become the Mac of Linux. And they may achieve their dream. And we should not care. Linux is much bigger.
If you use Debian + Pure Gnome + apps from their official repos, then at best your experience is limited. Gnome has a few apps compared to the vast universe of the Linux apps. And any other app that you install on this config, and is not a GTK LIbadwaita app, will look different on your desktop. No light/dark mode will work via the Gnome Control center…no highlight color…the window buttons will be different, the font may be different, the icon set for these other apps may be different. IN-CON-SIS-TEN-CY. So Gnome is a failure if they wanna be so purists. It only makes it a bit more annoying for some Linux users, and is breaking things on the desktop.
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#Frontex🇪🇺 vertuschte die griech.🇬🇷 #Pushbacks und finanzierte💶 sie mit.
Die Enthüllungen zum #OLAF-Report
jetzt in Englisch, ohne Paywall:
spiegel.de/international/…
von @stluedke @TomasStatius
@derspiegel
#AbolishFrontex #DefundFrontex
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Our TROMnews Illustrations is back tromnews.com/illustrations/ !! We gave up trying to pull an RSS from instagram accounts, and we do so from Twitter now. Luckily these accounts have twitter. This section is perhaps the most TROM relevant of all of the TROMnews section, as it represents important ideas and criticisms of this society, via illustrations. Very very powerful.
If you know more such artists let us know so we can add them to the mix!
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🆘 27 Menschen treiben in Seenot bei #Rhodos🇬🇷. Das Boot wurde angegriffen und ihr Motor geraubt. Die Gruppe wird auf See treiben gelassen und muss sofort an Land gebracht werden.
#DontLetThemDrown !
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What if we treated everyone like they were babies?
When someone suggests that the goal of our society should be to offer everything to everyone for free, no matter if they work or if they offer something to society, no matter if they are "good" persons or not, usually the reaction by other people is strongly against this opinion and that's probably "normal".
Because, you see, in our lives we are used to something a bit different: a few things are earned without effort. So, it's probably "normal" to view such ideas at first as "extreme" and reject them as something "utopian", "unachievable" or "very distant from our times".
Nevertheless, how many of you have thought about the following?
There's truly a certain period in the lives of all of us (at least in what we call the "Western world"), which is very similar to such an "utopia".
When we are fetuses in the womb of our mother, we get our food literally without doing anything. Just because we exist. Noone has anything to expect from us and we have no responsibilities whatsoever. And when we are born, all people around us care for us, so that we live as comfortably as possible.
Usually, the first years of our lives are the best, happiest and the most carefree. We haven't been, yet, inside the awful trade game, so everyone is trying to make our lives as pleasant as possible, without the need to offer something in order to earn this privilege. Food, clothing, education, entertainment are all offered abundantly by our caregivers.
I already hear some voices complaining: "Yes, but babies and children are unable to offer anything, that's why we offer them all they need! They can't go to work!"
Yes, that's correct! If babies could work we would send them to make some profits for the privileged, super-rich people... And maybe they could keep something for themselves: A small glass of milk per day perhaps?? 😀
The truth is that we care for them because, indeed, they can't help themselves yet. And of course, it's the right thing to do.
In contrast, of course, to what happens later in our lives, where, even to be able to eat, we are forced to work, or have income from somewhere. With adulthood, we suddenly lose the privilege of being cared for and we need to "earn our living", so that we fulfill our assigned role as a well-tuned cog in the trade system.
But why would it be "bad"? What would we have to lose if we continued to care for all the people of the Earth, of all ages, as if they were incapable of providing something in return? Like they were babies for all their lives?
Honestly, I cannot think of a convincing answer. Every argument against it, sounds in my ears like the old, outdated opinion some "kid-experts" expressed in the past: "Don't give too many hugs to the child because you will spoil it!"
A real civilized society should generously offer everything to all its people, without asking for anything in return. With our material needs covered, we would contribute to society out of selfless love for our fellow man and out of optimism for the evolution of our species, but also of ourselves.
We know that it can happen if we really want to make it true. Humankind is capable of miracles if we work all together and we've proven that in the past.
Civilization Type One
Original article, in Greek, here.
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You know, there are others who fight the same fight, that you may not have heard of. And that's encouraging! #tromlive
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Intensives WE im zentralen #Med! @Alarmphone alarmierte wg. 6 Booten m. 500+ Pers., gerettet v. d. #CivilFleet:
3 Boote m. 113, 106 & 16 Pers. wurden v. #SeaWatch3 gerettet. 3 Boote m. 87, 108 & 73 Pers. wurden v. #OceanViking gerettet.
Und es sind noch Boote in Seenot draußen!
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Um Mitternacht verließ die #GeoBarents den Hafen von Augusta.
Buon vento! Fair Winds!❤️💪
begleitet die Mission für .
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Our tromnews.com/illustrations/ does not work because, well, Instagram...you see most people use Instagram and that's where we can find these "artists" making interesting illustrations. Now to pull that content from Instagram you have to "hack" it. And so we use Bibliogram, which is a front-end for Instagram that also allows you to see people's profiles without having to have an Instagram account (the sane way). Plus, it provides an RSS feed for accounts.
Anyway, Instagram is blocking such front-ends so these days it seems all Bibliogram instances are not working, or not working properly.
So you know...
People should use Pixelfed instead. Federated, trade-free. However most of them won't, for two main reasons that are entangled with each-other:
1. Fame
2. Money
In other words, in this trade based society one can and will convert views and followers into products, currency, access. Trade those. And so human immediately associate quantity (of likes, shares, followers, comments, etc) with "value", simply because the more of those, the better and more trades you can do with them. And so the concept of fame is reinforced and maximized.
Even those who may not use their "reach" to trade for something, they (because of the trade value of those) still see the quantity as "value". And so, even the ones bashing facebook, youtube, instagram and the like, do so on those platforms. The irony cannot be greater.
At least TROM walks that talk, and we have gave up on those ad-platforms. Now we use our own that connect with tens of millions of humans from all around the world. Pixelfed, Friendica, Mastodon, Peertube, and so many other platforms, are amazing alternatives to those ad-platforms like youtube, facebook, twitter, instagram and the like.
Anyway, it happened before that insta-ad has blocked Bibliogram, but then Bibliogram hacked it again. So our Illustrations stream may work again these days. We shall see....
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Here’s TROMjaro in its full glory
This is a long series of videos, but we go in depth about all that TROMjaro is, and why TROMjaro is unique.
videos.trom.tf/videos/embed/7d…
videos.trom.tf/videos/embed/56…
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We have a new homepage for our Peertube instance - videos.trom.tf/home
It is featuring some channels from our instance. Unfortunately people do not use our instance much....but we at TROM do. That's our main video platform. Feel free to join us there. #tromlive
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Our TROM Live stopped working.
We are perhaps going to change our TROM Live page for good. You see in order for us to post live updates on this page we had to do a hack that involved RSS + Google’s FeedBurner + a paid for plugin. The posts were not properly formatted at times, plus for the past days the hack stopped working. We guess is because Google’s FeedBurner is discontinued, or in the process of.
But why complicate things? We are on the Fediverse already! That’s a proper social network. So from now on keep an eye on our page. Make an account with our TROM Social and interact with us and so forth. You can also follow the TROM updates that the TROM members post: Tio, Sasha, Aaron.
So, come join us on the Fediverse!
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We have a powerful server and a lot of storage space. We have enabled conversions for videos in multiple formats, including audio. We support live-streams and have a custom built theme for our instance.
We provide unlimited uploads with a max of 2GB upload per day.
If your videos are about science, technology and educational in general, come join us! Mind you, we only accept videos in English.
This is the URL -> videos.trom.tf
This is the first image released by the James Webb Telescope:
If you take a grain of salt, put it on the tip of your finger, and stretch your arm...that is the area of the sky that this represents.
Imagine how small we are, yet how big our eyes have become. Imagine how further we can see from one dim pebble. All of those ellipses of light and little dots, are galaxies. Billions of stars each, trillions of planets. Not enough grains of sand on Earth to match the number of planets in our Universe.
Such revelations should shake our species; our values should be reevaluated. Our priorities re-organized.
And yet, such astonishing truths, are a mere excitement for a select few; such images will become one of the trillions of images in the digital universe. On par with any other. Our society will fail to be moved in any direction; our values seem set in stone; our priorities will follow the same mindless and insignificant profits.
To say this is sad, is unjust. It is unbearable for anyone who understands all of this.
We have created a society of idiots. But we should know the cause by now. It is because humans ended up with a society that is based on trade. Trade this, trade that. You cannot survive if you cannot trade. And so, all of the humans are trapped in a nightmare. We can only wake them up, if we take care of them. Feed them, treat them, give them a shelter, a life. Only then we can hope to see them being curious about themselves and the world they live in. To focus on significant endeavors; to discover the universe, to understand their connection with nature, to protect what needs to be protected, to explore what is unexplored. To become a human species that has grandiose goals, and saner wants.
This is the only path forward. We have to march on the streets, we have to scream online, to provide humans with access to their needs, as trade-free. To decouple them from this hamster wheel, this nightmare. To give them back their brains. No change in politics or policies will do anything if all humans are consumed on a daily basis, for mindless trades.
Provide humans with their needs, as trade-free. Do it!
TROM is marching for this for at least a decade now. What are you doing? Where are you? We need you! #tromlive
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TROM II - we are starting to work on it again thanks to some recent donations! A huge thanks to Guil for donating 250 Euros and to Roma who donated 450 Euros. This, together with some money we were able to make ourselves, allow us to restart the work on the documentary.
I (Tio) made a blog post about all of it and I have added some samples from the documentary if you are curious to see them - here it is tiotrom.com/2022/07/trom-ii-re…
I am excited! Let's do it folks! #tromlive
Ok it is time to reboot the TROM II documentary work! Let's do it!TIO
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Usual Manjaro updates plus:
We have improved the code a bit and added new options. Now, when you select a Light theme you’ll be asked if you want to make the panels light or dark too:
This can be useful for those who may want a light theme, but may not want the panels to be light too. To update the code go to .local/bin/ in your home folder and edit the file theme-switcher. Remove what is in that file and replace with:
<pre><code class="lang-auto">#!/bin/bash
icons="$HOME"/.local/share/Theme-Switcher
set_theme() {
# Check for Zafiro icon pack, icon packs won't be changed if Zafiro is not in use
current_icon_theme=$(xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Net/IconThemeName)
[ "${current_icon_theme%-Icons-Light-Black-f}" = 'Zafiro' ] && Zafiro='True'
if [ "${1##*-}" = 'Light' ]; then
yad --image "dialog-question" --title '' --button='DARK':1 --button='LIGHT':0 --text 'Select the panels theme:'
case $? in
1)
# Enable dark panels
xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -p /panels/dark-mode -n -t bool -s true
# Use the dark icon pack
[ "$Zafiro" = 'True' ] && xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Net/IconThemeName -n -t string -s Zafiro
;;
0)
# Disable dark panels
xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -p /panels/dark-mode -n -t bool -s false
# Use the light icon pack
[ "$Zafiro" = 'True' ] && xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Net/IconThemeName -n -t string -s Zafiro-Icons-Light-Black-f
;;
*) exit ;;
esac
else
# Use the dark icon pack
[ "$Zafiro" = 'True' ] && xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Net/IconThemeName -n -t string -s Zafiro
fi
# Change the main theme to the chosen one
xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Net/ThemeName -n -t string -s "Skeuos-$1"
xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/theme -n -t string -s "Skeuos-$1-XFWM"
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme "Skeuos-$1"
notify-send "Skeuos-$1 theme was enabled"
}
export -f set_theme
yad --no-buttons --center --keep-icon-size --use-interp --title 'Theme Switcher' --text-align=center --text "A Theme Switcher for TROMjaro's default theme-set (Skeuos)" --form --columns 5 \
--field=!"$icons/Blue-Dark.png"!'Blue-Dark':FBTN "set_theme 'Blue-Dark'" \
--field=!"$icons/Violet-Dark.png"!'Violet-Dark':FBTN "set_theme 'Violet-Dark'" \
--field=!"$icons/Blue-Light.png"!'Blue-Light':FBTN "set_theme 'Blue-Light'" \
--field=!"$icons/Violet-Light.png"!'Violet-Light':FBTN "set_theme 'Violet-Light'" \
--field=!"$icons/Teal-Dark.png"!'Teal-Dark':FBTN "set_theme 'Teal-Dark'" \
--field=!"$icons/Orange-Dark.png"!'Orange-Dark':FBTN "set_theme 'Orange-Dark'" \
--field=!"$icons/Teal-Light.png"!'Teal-Light':FBTN "set_theme 'Teal-Light'" \
--field=!"$icons/Orange-Light.png"!'Orange-Light':FBTN "set_theme 'Orange-Light'" \
--field=!"$icons/Green-Dark.png"!'Green-Dark (default)':FBTN "set_theme 'Green-Dark'" \
--field=!"$icons/Brown-Dark.png"!'Brown-Dark':FBTN "set_theme 'Brown-Dark'" \
--field=!"$icons/Green-Light.png"!'Green-Light':FBTN "set_theme 'Green-Light'" \
--field=!"$icons/Brown-Light.png"!'Brown-Light':FBTN "set_theme 'Brown-Light'" \
--field=!"$icons/Magenta-Dark.png"!'Magenta-Dark':FBTN "set_theme 'Magenta-Dark'" \
--field=!"$icons/Yellow-Dark.png"!'Yellow-Dark':FBTN "set_theme 'Yellow-Dark'" \
--field=!"$icons/Magenta-Light.png"!'Magenta-Light':FBTN "set_theme 'Magenta-Light'" \
--field=!"$icons/Yellow-Light.png"!'Yellow-Light':FBTN "set_theme 'Yellow-Light'" \
--field=!"$icons/Red-Dark.png"!'Red-Dark':FBTN "set_theme 'Red-Dark'" \
--field=!"$icons/Grey-Dark.png"!'Grey-Dark':FBTN "set_theme 'Grey-Dark'" \
--field=!"$icons/Red-Light.png"!'Red-Light':FBTN "set_theme 'Red-Light'" \
--field=!"$icons/Grey-Light.png"!'Grey-Light':FBTN "set_theme 'Grey-Light'"
</code></pre>
We’ve also fix something in that before the theme switcher also changed our TROMjaro icon pack from dark to light and vice-versa, in order to have a better consistency and integration with the selected theme. But what if people use their own icon themes? Now we won’t touch that!
All in all, some new improvements to the Theme Switcher.
The Send app used to be called warp-share-files but now it is called warp. Please remove the warp-share-files package from Add/Remove software and install the warp one. You can also install it from here.
That’s mainly it.
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In this video series we will explore TROMjaro in more depth. Today we are looking at how easy it is to customize TROMjaro with just a few clicks. Our Layout and Theme Switcher apps make it quite straight forward. We are also talking about why the theming is broken in Linux and how we kinda fixed it for TROMjaro.
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TROM.tf updates:
- We've added tasks.trom.tf/ - a complete Trello trade-free alternative.
- We've added sketch.trom.tf/- a simple and useful online sketch whiteboard. Draw together with others and share your drawings.
- We've added another one scratch.trom.tf/ geared towards learning programming and creating animations.
- We moved yt.trom.tf to the original ytb.trom.tf. Do not worry, they are linked so it does not matter which one you use.
As you can see we are adding new trade-free services. Thanks to the people who donate to TROM. Now we have 27 trade-free services that are well maintained. So if you can, please donate to TROM here tromsite.com/donate/ to keep these services alive and relevant, and add more in the future.
We will make some "info" pages for some of these newly added services, soon. Enjoy! #tromlive
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