The latest Thunderbird mobile update is out! We're getting closer to sharable iOS screenshots while sharing a sneak peak at the new Android account drawer and folders. And check out all the improvements from our team and community!
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Mobile Progress Report - June 2025 - The Thunderbird Blog
In the June update, we're making progress with JMAP for iOS, previewing drawer improvements for Android, and providing numerous updates!Philipp Kewisch (The Thunderbird Blog)
Insecurity Princess 🌈💖🔥
in reply to Insecurity Princess 🌈💖🔥 • • •Early in my career, I built a system for a customer that made it easier for their university to automate sending invitations and login instructions for new users.
I missed some key differences in some user environments that weren't covered in my testing, and I ended up sending thousands of malformed login invitations... twice.
Insecurity Princess 🌈💖🔥
in reply to Insecurity Princess 🌈💖🔥 • • •If I'd been forced to write separate login invitations manually for each segment of the user population, I would also have been forced to do more fine grained testing and take more care to ensure it works and think through the details.
But as a starryeyed new engineer, I was too excited by the idea of automating the whole thing in one go. I made it too easy to distribute the impact of my mistake, and I wasted the time of thousands of users.
EndlessMason
in reply to Insecurity Princess 🌈💖🔥 • • •Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE
in reply to Insecurity Princess 🌈💖🔥 • • •Marc
in reply to Insecurity Princess 🌈💖🔥 • • •I'd be surprised if their app could not be made with less than 10k locs...
recursive 🏳️🌈
in reply to Insecurity Princess 🌈💖🔥 • • •I think it's an immature attitude borne out of people resigned to working within languages and frameworks that force a lot of 'boilerplate' on them, who haven't had a chance to develop the understanding that there are better approaches (more expressive *durable* abstractions, etc)
Proponents of the tool seem to extrapolate from the relative increase in ability of these tools in the past 6 months (mostly due to more cleverly wiring them up to the ability to use external tools and edit files) that in another 6 months they'll solve significant issues of design ... and I'm not seeing evidence of it