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Everyone who's not a pedophile thinks pedophiles are bad, but there's this special obsessed hatred you'll find among poor rural Americans. The whole QAnon/Epstein obsession may not really make sense to folks raised in cities. Like, why do these people think *so much* about pedophiles? Why do they think that everyone in power is a pedophile? Why would the Pizzagate thing make sense to anyone? What is this unhinged shit? A lot of folks (who aren't anarchists) might be inclined to ask "why can't these people just let the cops take care of it?"
I was watching Legal Eagle's run down on the Trump Epstein thing earlier today and I woke up thinking about something I don't know if I've ever talked about. Now that I'm not in the US, I'm not at any risk of talking about it. I don't know how much I would have been before, but that's not something I'm gonna dig into right now. So let me tell you a story that might explain a few things.
I'm like 16, maybe 17. I have my license, so this girl I was dating/not dating/just friends with/whatever would regularly convince me to drive her and her friends around. I think she's like 15 at the time. Her friends are younger than her.
She tells me that there's a party we can go to where they have beer. She was told to invite her friends, so I can come too. We're going to pick her friends up (we regularly fill the VW Golf well beyond the legal limit and drive places) and head to the party.
So I take these girls, at least is 13 years old, down to this party. I'm already a bit sketched out bringing a 13 year old to a party. We drive out for a while. It's in the country. We drive down a long dark road. Three are some barrel fires and a shack. This is all a bit strange, but not too abnormal for this area. We're a little ways outside of a place called Mill City (in Oregon).
We park and walk towards the shack. This dude who looks like a rat comes up and offers us beer. He laughs and talks to the girl who invited me, "What's he doing here? You're supposed to bring your girl friends." She's like, "He's our ride." I don't remember if he offered me a beer or not.
We go over to this shed and everyone starts smoking, except me because I didn't smoke until I turned 18. The other girls start talking about the rat face dude, who's wandered over by the fire with some other guys. They're mainly teasing one of the 13 year old girls about having sex with him a bunch of times. They say he's like, 32 or something. The other girls joke about him only having sex with 13 year olds because he's too ugly to have sex with anyone closer to his own age.
Somewhere along the line it comes out that he's a cop. I never forgot that, it's absolutely seared in to my memory. I can picture his face perfectly still, decades later, and them talking about how he's a deputy, he was in his 30's, and he was having sex with a 13 year old girl. I was the only boy there, but there were a few older men. This was a chunk of the good ol' boys club of the town. I think there were a couple of cops besides the one deputy, and a judge or the mayor or some kind of big local VIP.
I kept trying to get my friend to leave, but she wanted to stay. Turns out under age drinking with cops seems like a great deal if you're a kid because you know you won't get busted. I left alone, creeped the fuck out.
I was told later that I wasn't invited and that I couldn't talk about it, I've always been good at compartmentalization, so I never did.
Decades later it occurred to me what was actually happening. I'm pretty sure that cop was giving meth he'd seized as evidence to these kids. This wasn't some one-off thing. It was regular. Who knows how many decades it went on after I left, or how many decades it had been going on before I found out. I knew this type of thing had happened at least a few times before because that's how that 13 year old girl and that 32 year old cop had hooked up in the first place.
Hearing about Epstein's MO, targeting these teenage girls from fucked up backgrounds, it's right there for me. I wouldn't be surprised if they were involved in sex trafficking of minors or some shit like that... but who would you call if you found out? Half the sheriff's department was there and the other half would cover for them.
You live in the city and shit like that doesn't happen, or at least you don't think it happens. But rural poor folks have this intuition about power and abuse. It's right there and you know it.
Trump is such a familiar character for me, because he's exactly that small town mayor or sheriff. He'll will talk about being tough on crime and hunting down pedophiles, while hanging out at a party that exists so people can fuck 8th graders.
The problem with the whole thing is that rural folks will never break the cognitive dissonance between "kill the peods" and "back the blue." They'll never go kill those cops. No, the pedos must be somewhere else. It must be the elites. It must be outsiders. It can't be the cops and good ol' boys everyone respects. It can't be the mayor who rigs the election to win every time. It can't be the "good upstanding" sheriff. Nah, it's the Clintons.
To be fair, it's probably also the Clitnons, a bunch of other politicians, billionaires, etc. Epstein was exactly who everyone thought he was, and he didn't get away with it for so long without a whole lot of really powerful help.
There are still powerful people who got away with involvement with #Epstein. #Trump is one of them, but I don't really believe that he's the only one.
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I'm sure Epstein was very far from the only Epstein, too.
Considering that abusive sociopaths with entirely too much money don't seem to have much in the way of imagination, screwing the vulnerable seems to be their ultimate fantasy. Like they can't come up with anything more satisfying or interesting to do with all those riches.
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@violetmadder I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers the story of Sacha Baron Cohen accidentally finding a pedo ring and the FBI declining to investigate...
independent.co.uk/arts-enterta…
Of course they didn't investigate, because they already knew what they'd find.
Long after the official abolition of slavery, Theodore Roosevelt decided to do something about all the reports of it still happening. He sent the secret service out to investigate and they realized that actually doing something would basically dismantle the entire Southern power structure. Slavery was still everywhere. Agents started getting shot at and they backed down. No one touched the issue again until WWII.
I get the feeling that this is the same type of thing. To do something would annihilate the power structure, so they just pretend everything is fine and keep going. Like, the QAnon shit is silly but I do think there's a lot more because power imbalances alone drive people to become abusive. There just can't be this level of power imbalance without something fucked up going on.
Sacha Baron Cohen thought he had exposed paedophile ring while filming 'Who Is America?' | The Independent
Jacob Stolworthy (The Independent)Violet Madder
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Exactly. If anyone went after one of these lists with REAL rigor, it would bring probably at least 90% of Washington and Wall St crashing down.
Ain't happening. Not in this system.
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Fyi, the Legal Eagle video on Epstein
youtu.be/4Xuu7Jtt-ik
The Epstein File Fiasco
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Thank you. Rural community are targets for fraud. There was a thing called "snake oil salesman" back in the day.
The most important thing in my mind about the Epstein paradox is that the Government claims he committed suicide.
As citizens, we should all be on high alert when our due process rights are ignored and discarded in favor of the US government narrative.
Epstein was evil and likely was blackmailing his customers...
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harrowing story. And sadly you're probably right and that type of thing isn't as rare as we would like to believe.
I think the raving hatred of pedophiles also serves as a psychological projection mechanism. Some of these people are pedos themselves. Some of them know people who are. Some of them may just have hunches about friends, family members, colleagues. Some of them beat their kids. Some of them have raped or assaulted adults.
QAnon and similar conspiracy narratives allow them to lock away that guilt and suspicion and direct it at political opponents who are so far away, they barely even seem human.
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Couple high points from my small town cops:
The time the cop accidentally locked himself in the back of his cruiser with an underage girl. Their clothes were NOT in the back with them.
The time the cop accidentally filmed himself having sex with the underage girl at the local drive-in burger joint. I don't know if he thought the security camera was off, or what.