Please tell your friends about federated social media site that speaks several fediverse protocols thus serving as a hub uniting them, hubzilla.eskimo.com, also check out friendica.eskimo.com, federated
macroblogging social media site, mastodon.eskimo.com a federated microblogging site, and yacy.eskimo.com an uncensored federated search engine. All Free!
Titanium is the ninth most abundant element in the Earth's crust, yet products based on pure titanium are uncommon because it's expensive to remove the oxygen from titanium ore.
The Freedom Flotilla Coalition ship crew, who set sail a week ago from Sicily with humanitarian supplies for Gazans, includes Greta Thunberg and European Parliament member Rima Hassan
a deterministic algorithm is not a good fit for a complex environment such as the physical world because you simply can't encode every potential thing that could happen. The whole point of having AI based algorithms is to make robots adaptable and to be able to react in a reasonable way when encountering an unexpected situation.
Yes, I know, and environment recognition can be done in a more... flexible way, but we need to look at what we call AI.
For example, automatic parking on cars inevitably has an adaptive component, but we can be sure that it won't do anything stupid either (and for example, Tesla chose to go with full machine learning on it, and they gives much worse results than the competition).
Agriculture was already using semi-automated vehicles, notably via very precise GNSS positioning, for example (and besides, I'm not convinced by a tractor without a cockpit, having a supervisor seems to me to be preferable no matter what level of automation you reach, except in some special cases (subways in particular, since they have a very controlled environment, but then you don’t need any kind of AI)).
In short, AI as it is generally referred to today is not relevant here, in my opinion. Then again, maybe it's a completely different type of AI that's relevant in this case, but that's not really the point (and it's been around a lot longer, and most people don’t complain about it).
That said, I interpreted your message as “these new AIs can have a relevant use like here", but perhaps it meant “there are other types of AIs that shouldn't be mixed up with the ones they're trying to sell us everywhere, and which aren't to be thrown away”, in which case we agree and I'm sorry for the off-topic.
@breizh AI is a very broad term, and unless you know how this specific system is actually implemented then you're just making pointless speculation here based on your biases and the way this tech is developed in the west
In this day and age, celebrities have a lot of influence over our politics. Garthwaite and Moore estimated that Oprah Winfrey’s endorsement of Barack Obama in 2008 netted him an extra 1 milli…
🇺🇸 SAVE OUR APP TO YOUR HOME SCREEN!: https://wkrpete.com *** BECOME AN ANGEL INVESTOR - CLICK THE BANNER ON WKRPete.com 🇺🇸BECOME A MINI-ANGEL INVESTOR: http://petesantilli.locals.com [$20 OFF - Use P
La pensée médicale en action & #médecine hippocratique | La médecine est un #art | Dr Isabelle #Lagny
Pour Tribune Libre, le 27 mai 2025, Stéphanie Reynaud s’entretient avec le Dr Isabelle Lagny, médecin du travail et auteure du livre « La Pensée Médicale en Action, pour une pratique de la médecine humaniste universelle ».
Extrait du serment d’ #Hippocrate : « Mon premier souci sera de rétablir, de préserver ou de promouvoir la santé dans tous ses éléments, physiques et mentaux, individuels et sociaux. Je respecterai toutes les personnes, leur autonomie et leur volonté, sans aucune discrimination selon leur état ou leurs convictions."
⮕ Pour consulter la page du Dr Isabelle Lagny chez l’Agora : agora.paris/+-isabelle-lagny-5454-+.html ⮕ Pour consulter la page du Dr Isabelle Lagny chez Recours au Poème : recoursaupoeme.fr/auteurs/isabelle-lagny ⮕ Pour commander le livre « La Pensée Médicale en Action, pour une pratique de la médecine humaniste universelle » du Dr Isabelle Lagny chez les Éditions Marco Pietteur : editionsmarcopietteur.com/392-la-pensee-medicale-en-action.html
Pour soutenir la chaîne Tribune Libre : https://fr.tipeee.com/tribune-libre-1Pour Tribune Libre, le 27 mai 2025, Stéphanie Reynaud s’entretient avec le Dr Is...
For $6 a month, become a Useful Idiot! Get extended interviews, Thursday Throwdowns, and bonus content at http://usefulidiotspodcast.com Or find us on Locals at http://usefulidiots.locals.com Katie Ha
it's time to close my rage bait twitter feed and think about what i'm doing today. probably consists of some welding on my freshly notched tubes, and the new motor mounts for the RSX should be arriving so maybe i'll get started on those. hoping that will limit the excessive vibration at idle
in this age of press acquiescence to state propaganda, please remember that rubber coated bullets are ACTUAL bullets, a powder actuated heavy metal projectile with a "rubber" coating to reduce penetrating trauma and fragmentation *only*. in many cases they will have a higher mass than the equivalent "non coated" munition. and mass x speed something something. you ever been hit in the head with a hammer? do you think it would be less violent if the hammer was coated in plastic?
they're not BBs or squash balls
they're designed to maim with *reduced* lethality
they will still ruin your life, or potentially even end it, even if it takes you weeks or months to succumb
and they will be deployed indiscriminately, and used for punishment and compliance, when realistically they should not be used in any situation where a real bullet would not be "justified" anyway. you can't (legally) shoot people for standing around (yet). but... that's what's happening.
A Florida judge set a $1 million bond for Marcos Lopez, the suspended sheriff of Osceola County, following his arrest on felony racketeering charges. If Lope...
The #Sacred #12 #Names of #Ganesha The twelve names of Lord Ganesha are a powerful mantra that devotees chant to invoke his blessings. These names are:
Sumukha – The One with a Beautiful Face Ekadanta – The One-Tusked Lord Kapila – The Lord of Infinite Color Gajakarnaka – The Lord with Elephant Ears Lambodara – The Lord with a Big Belly Vikata – The Formidable One Vighnaraja – The Remover of Obstacles Dhumravarna – The Smoke-Hued Lord Bhalachandra – The One with the Moon on His Forehead Vinayaka – The Supreme Leader Ganapati – The Lord of All Beings Gajanana – The Elephant-Faced Lord Reciting these names with devotion aligns the mind, body, and spirit with the divine vibrations of Lord Ganesha, helping devotees overcome challenges and achieve their goals.
Die Faschisierung ist nur möglich, weil die Grundlagen und das Personal der Repression schon vorhanden sind. Genau deswegen ist radikaler Aktivismus rund um die Themen Grenzen, Polizei und Gefängnisse antifaschistische Arbeit. Das sind die Nervenzentren der Faschisierung. [...] Wenn man sagt, »der Staat wird faschistisch«, dann besteht die Gefahr, dass man ausblendet, inwiefern das faschistische Phänomen aus dem bereits bestehenden Staat erwachsen ist. Es besteht die Gefahr, das man das Regime, dem die Faschisierung entspringt, zu dessen Gegenteil oder sogar zu dessen Gegenmittel verklärt. [...]
Der Kapitalismus produziert überschüssige Bevölkerungen und er klassifiziert ganze Gruppen als entbehrlich, minderwertig oder unwürdig. Der Faschismus ist ein bewusstes, gewaltsames Projekt zur Bestätigung und Durchsetzung dieser Strukturen. Man könnte vielleicht sagen, der Kapitalismus ist zwar immer rassistisch, aber es gibt Momente, in denen das Rassistische als affirmatives, politisches Projekt in den Vordergrund tritt. Dort geht es dann nicht mehr nur darum, Hierarchien von Würde, Privilegien und Entbehrlichkeit zu akzeptieren, sondern diese festzuschreiben, herzustellen und ihrer Logik bis zur Auslöschung zu folgen.
Der Faschismus kehrt nicht zurück, er mutiert – so die Kernthese des neuen Buches von Alberto Toscano. Warum historische Analogien oft in die Irre führen und wie er die Rechte von heute einordnet, erklärt er im Gespräch.
Senegalese President Bassirou Diomaye Faye extended a presidential pardon to 1,466 inmates, marking a significant moment in the nation's republican tradition.
Rev. Nyle Fort writes a letter to Mahmoud Khalil’s and Noor Abdalla’s newborn son, Deen. “Even genocide cannot exterminate our will to live. This is what makes you dangerous to the powers that be. For you are proof of irrepressible life.”
well... gingivitis affects gums not teeth, but still, it doesn't improve overall oral health and there is also evidence that fluoride doesn't even reduce cavities, especially in municipal water. definitely not a substitute for proper oral hygiene.
"Paradise City" by Guns N' Roses is a classic anthem that captures the essence of rock 'n' roll with its electrifying guitar riffs and powerful lyrics. The song transports listeners to a place of freedom and nostalgia, making it a timeless favourite among fans of the genre.
Lyrics: Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Take me home (I want you, please, take me home)
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Take me home (I want you, please, take me home)
Just an urchin living under the street I'm a hard case that's tough to beat I'm your charity case, so buy me somethin' to eat I'll pay you at another time Take it to the end of the line
Rags and riches, or so they say, you gotta Keep pushing for the fortune and fame You know it's, it's all a gamble when it's just a game You treat it like a capital crime Everybody's doing their time
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Oh, won't you please take me home? Yeah-yeah
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Take me home
Strapped in the chair of the city's gas chamber Why I'm here, I can't quite remember The surgeon general says it's hazardous to breathe I'd have another cigarette, but I can't see Tell me, who you're gonna believe?
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Take me home, yeah-yeah
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Oh, won't you please take me home? Yeah
So far away So far away So far away So far away
Captain America's been torn apart now He's a court jester with a broken heart He said, "Turn me around and take me back to the start" I must be losin' my mind, "Are you blind?" "I've seen it all a million times"
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Take me home, yeah-yeah
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Oh, won't you please take me home?
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Take me home, yeah-yeah
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Oh, won't you please take me home? Home
I wanna go, I wanna know I want you, please, take me home I wanna see how good it can be I want you, please, take me home
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Take me home (I want you, please, take me home)
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Oh, won't you please take me home?
Take me down, ooh yeah, spin me 'round Oh, won't you please take me home? I wanna see how good it can be I want you, please, take me home
I wanna see how good it can be Oh, oh, take me home
Take me down to the Paradise City Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty I want you, please, take me home (I want you, I want you, take me home)
I wanna go (I wanna), I wanna know (I wanna) I want you, please, take me home, yeah Baby, yeah
I think I'm so annoyed because I've gone out of my way for _years and years_ to do so — I have the macOS text-entry shortcuts memorized, and all of my daily-typing has curly-quotes, emdashes, ellipses, etc chorded in. That takes _effort_. Because I care about the result.
And now, thanks to A.I., that's one more thing that's ruined for me (and everyone else.)
Hukukun evrenselliği tüm bireyler, toplumlar için geçerli olması gereken bir kavramdır. Ne yazık ki sadece söylem olarak vardır. Hukuku belirleyen her zaman muktedirler olmuş ve oluyor ne yazık ki. Örneğin son günlerde servis edilen bazı görüntüler var. Gereksiz, anlamsız, hukuksuz, haksız ya da hukuki, haklı, gerekli gerekçelerle de olsa elleri kelepçeli insanların görüntüleri servis ediliyor. Bu nedenlerle de bazı kesimlerce bir deyim kullanılıyor sıklıkla. - Düşman Hukuku.- Tepkilerin haklılığı, haksızlığını bir yana.. Kendi adıma merak ediyor ve de her zaman olduğu gibi dostça sormak istiyorum. Bir asırdır bu coğrafyada hangi gün uygulanmadı bu düşman hukuku denilen garabet? Veya ne zaman uygulandı yurttaş, adil, dost hukuku? Dillerine, kimliklerine sahip çıkmak isteyenler için hangi hukuk söz konusu oldu? Hangi gün adaletin terazisi şaşmadı? Yasaklara, baskılara, katliamlara, bilumum hukuksuzluklara karşı çıkanlara uygulanan hukuk dost muydu, düşman mıydı, evrensel kurallar gereği miydi? Bir asırdır değişmeden uygulanan düşman hukukunun görülmesi için mutlaka kendilerine mi dokunulması gerekiyordu? Oysaki hukuk bu. Dostu, düşmanı, yandaşı, karşıtı için farklı olmaz. Ve de gün gelir, en çok da keyfi uygulayanlara lazım olur. Sadece kendilerine dokunulduğunda bağırmanın, çağırmanın karşılığı da olmuyor, anlamı da. Her zaman hukuktan, adaletten, eşitlikten yana olan zelal yüreklere tek değil, tüm dillerden SELAM OLSUN.
On June 4, the United States once again vetoed a United Nations Security Council (UNSCC) resolution on the humanitarian situation in Gaza and calling for a ceasefire.
#ILO recognizes Palestine as observer state. The decision aligns with the UN resolution calling for expanded participation rights for Palestine in UN agencies, strengthening the ability of Palestinian representatives to defend workers' rights and contribute to ILO discussions.
The ITUC calls for urgent action, including a ceasefire in #Gaza, release of hostages, humanitarian access, and support for the recognition of Palestine.
In a significant decision, the Governing Body of the International Labour Organization (ILO) has formally recognised Palestine as a state, shifting its status from a ‘liberation movement' to a ‘non-member observer state' within the organisation.
War and occupation / International Labour Organization’s 2025 report on the situation of workers in the occupied Arab territories
The document examines the circumstances facing Palestinian workers since #Israel started its war on #Gaza (which is classified by experts as #genocide.)
Gaza:
The economy has collapsed almost entirely, with 83% contraction in output by 2024. Most businesses and workplaces have been destroyed. In the fourth quarter of 2024, unemployment reached 69% while labour force participation fell to just 30%. Employment has been reduced to primarily public services, humanitarian aid work, and informal trading.
Occupied West Bank:
While less severely impacted than Gaza, the West Bank experienced significant economic disruption. About 155,000 jobs were lost since October 2023, including approximately 140,000 positions in #Israel and settlements. Unemployment rose from 16.5% to 31.4%.
Illegal Settlement Expansion:
The report documents accelerated settlement activity in 2024, with 60 new outposts established (double the previous year) and plans for nearly 10,000 new housing units in settlements advanced.
Movement Restrictions:
Palestinians face 849 permanent or intermittent obstacles controlling movement, severely hampering access to workplaces and markets.
Proposed Recovery Agenda:
The report concludes with a 10-point agenda for Palestinian economic recovery, emphasizing:
- Employment-intensive reconstruction
- Restoration of agriculture, healthcare, and education
- Private sector support
- Women’s economic empowerment
- Social protection expansion
- Child labor prevention
- Labour governance strengthening
- Facilitation of pension payments
- Reopening Israeli labor market access
- Lifting movement restrictions
The report concludes that meaningful recovery requires cessation of violence, release of hostages, and ultimately a political resolution based on the two-state solution.
New Syrian Group Claims Golan Strike, Vows Resistance to ‘Israel’
A newly emergent faction in Syria, the Islamic Resistance Front, has taken responsibility for launching rockets toward the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, marking a significant turn in the country’s internal and regional dynamics.
The group confirmed its involvement in Tuesday’s attack through a statement issued Wednesday evening by its military spokesperson, Abu al-Qassem.
“The revolution in Syria has deviated from its path and now calls for normalization with Israel,” Abu al-Qassem stated, denouncing what he described as the betrayal of Syria’s original revolutionary goals.
He issued a warning to Tel Aviv, “You are facing Syrian wrath that can only be extinguished by blood.”
The salvo, which reportedly involved two Grad-type rockets, triggered sirens in the southern Golan region and was followed by the sound of explosions, according to local sources.
Meanwhile, Syria’s transitional government offered a cautious response. The Foreign Ministry said it could not verify whether the reported missile fire into Israeli-occupied territory had occurred, asserting that Syria does not and will not pose a threat to any regional party.
Resistance recalibrated
Mahmoud Muwaldi, head of the Islamic Resistance Front’s political bureau, clarified the group’s stance: “We are in opposition to the de facto authority in Damascus,” he said, signaling a clear break from the Syrian regime.
He added that Tuesday’s action was a message to “Israel”, stating, “We are present. We promise to plant fire beneath its feet if it dares to penetrate Syrian territory.”
Muwaldi added that the group does not coordinate with any other armed factions currently operating within Syria, but claimed that several militias have disbanded and joined the Front.
He framed the organization’s mission as dual: confronting foreign occupation while also laying the groundwork for a new Syrian state.
“We speak for the silent majority inside Syria, across all segments of society,” he declared.
New Syrian Group Claims Golan Strike, Vows Resistance to ‘Israel’
A newly emergent faction in Syria, the Islamic Resistance Front, has taken responsibility for launching rockets toward the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, marking a significant turn in the country’s internal and regional dynamics.
The group confirmed its involvement in Tuesday’s attack through a statement issued Wednesday evening by its military spokesperson, Abu al-Qassem.
“The revolution in Syria has deviated from its path and now calls for normalization with Israel,” Abu al-Qassem stated, denouncing what he described as the betrayal of Syria’s original revolutionary goals.
He issued a warning to Tel Aviv, “You are facing Syrian wrath that can only be extinguished by blood.”
The salvo, which reportedly involved two Grad-type rockets, triggered sirens in the southern Golan region and was followed by the sound of explosions, according to local sources.
Meanwhile, Syria’s transitional government offered a cautious response. The Foreign Ministry said it could not verify whether the reported missile fire into Israeli-occupied territory had occurred, asserting that Syria does not and will not pose a threat to any regional party.
Resistance recalibrated
Mahmoud Muwaldi, head of the Islamic Resistance Front’s political bureau, clarified the group’s stance: “We are in opposition to the de facto authority in Damascus,” he said, signaling a clear break from the Syrian regime.
He added that Tuesday’s action was a message to “Israel”, stating, “We are present. We promise to plant fire beneath its feet if it dares to penetrate Syrian territory.”
Muwaldi added that the group does not coordinate with any other armed factions currently operating within Syria, but claimed that several militias have disbanded and joined the Front.
He framed the organization’s mission as dual: confronting foreign occupation while also laying the groundwork for a new Syrian state.
“We speak for the silent majority inside Syria, across all segments of society,” he declared.
ESA project astronaut Sławosz Uznański-Wiśniewski is heading to the International Space Station on his first mission as part of Axiom Mission 4 (Ax-4). He is the second ESA project astronaut from a new generation of Europeans to fly on a commercial human spaceflight mission with Axiom Space.
Sponsored by the Polish government and supported by ESA, the Polish Ministry of Economic Development and Technology (MRiT), and the Polish Space Agency (POLSA), the mission—called Ignis—features an ambitious technological and scientific programme. It includes several experiments proposed by the Polish space industry and developed in cooperation with ESA, along with additional ESA-led experiments.
Follow Sławosz's journey on the Ignis mission website and discover more about the next mission patch to be hung on the walls of the Columbus Control Centre.
Legal residents of the United States sent to foreign prisons without due process. Students detained after voicing their opinions. Federal judges threatened w...
So far, EU OS is a Proof-of-Concept for the deployment of a #Fedora - based #Linux operating system with a #KDE Plasma desktop environment and bootable container #technology in a typical public sector organisation. Other organisations with similar requirements or less strict requirements may also learn from this Proof-of-Concept.
Disgusting that Israel govt has not been made to understand, has not been punished and sanctioned for the #Genocide and still thinks it can continue its war crimes on the basis of Oct 7 attack.
FFS Israel even showing "a video of 7 Oct" to Thunberg and the #FreedomFlottilla crew: do they think this will somehow stop us fighting against genocide?
This weird act only shows how out of touch they are with what most of the world think.
mixed feelings about them setting all the waymo driverless taxis on fire. i really don't like driverless cars on the road and especially not trucks. machines just aren't that smart yet. i don't trust them
"Presented to you in the form of unedited screenshots, the following is a 'conversation' I had with Chat GPT upon asking whether it could help me choose several of my own essays to link in a query letter I intended to send to an agent."
"What ultimately transpired is the closest thing to a personal episode of Black Mirror I hope to experience in this lifetime."
Spoiler: Amanda Guinzburg asks ChatGPT to help her select a couple of her own essays to send to an agent, as described, but ChatGPT pretends to read them, without actually reading them, then lies about it -- ChatGPT liar liar pants on fire. But what gets really creepy is how staggeringly apologetic ChatGPT gets. I guess "reinforcement learning with human feedback" can lead to "sycophancy" and what's a "sycophantic" chatbot to do when it gets caught in its own self-contradictions?
@Syl, the way LLMs work is they are next-token predictors. So you tokenize input like "Step on a crack," and it predicts the next token, what's most likely given everything it's seen in its massive text training data. (Which might be the word "break" in this example.)
When you understand this, you understand why when it seen an http link, it tries to predict the text that would come after and, and that text won't be, "I'm unable to follow that link." Well, probably not.
Having said that, they have layered on "reinforcement learning with human feedback" (RLHF) that give the chatbot its back-and-fourth conversational style, and is what makes it so eager to please you. If there was any possibility it could say "I'm unable to follow that link" it would come from that part of the training.
Wait, it's suposed to the smartest dude on earth, it's told to read a link, and instead of acknowledgin its incapacity to follow the link, it just keeps on predicting hallucinatory coments, brazenly lyin...
It seems to me that it should be fundamental, mandatory, that such an intelligence, have at least the understanding of its limits, and recognize them with the humility required. That shouldn't be such a big deal to implement, nops?
You have to step back and realize a chatbot is not anything like a human. You can't judge them the way you said. They don't "understand" things, they don't have feelings so they aren't affected by "humility". Chatbots have only one skill, they are good a producing narrative text in the manner it has seen during training, text that the bot infers will be appropriate for a given context. Context is critical because it helps the bot interpret what the user is prompting for, and to focus the response on what the user seems to be interested in.
What you are expecting is called "alignment" in the technical field. This is effort to specifically train the bot to behave aligned with human expectations.
Large language models (LLMs) are becoming increasingly advanced, excelling not only at generating text but also performing various tasks, such as machine translation, summarization…
Ok, but what we are speakin here, it's simply a matter of executin a simple task prompted to the bot. Read a file. It could analyze thousands of data in the sec, but it is unable to simply warn of its failure to access the file... And keep lying about it.
I don't get it, as it is such a basic feature of operatin system management.
Ha. That's the hype. LLMs are not dudes, though. Like @Will says.
They can be extremely smart, though. There are models now that can be given PhD level math problems and can come up with solutions to a decent percentage of them.
There are a lot of tricks that go into that, not just the predictive "pretraining" (remember the "GPT" in "ChatGPT" stands for "generative pretrained transformer") and reinforcement learning with human feedback (RLHF) that I was describing earlier, but "chain-of-thought" reasoning systems where the model is allowed to talk to itself in an internal monologue (this used to be done with prompting to try to get the model to "think the problem through step by step" but has now been incorporated directly into the models themselves).
These tests are done with problems that are small and self-contained enough to fit the whole thing in the model's context window. There's still no guarantee if it's told to read a link, it'll follow the link and read the contents at the other end, er acknowledge its incapacity to follow the link.
"I wish!"
Breizh
in reply to Yogthos • • •For this kind of thing I think a deterministic algorithm is probably more relevant.
(and that goes for all autonomous vehicles, whether subways, trains, cars or tractors...)
Yogthos
in reply to Breizh • • •Breizh
in reply to Yogthos • • •Yes, I know, and environment recognition can be done in a more... flexible way, but we need to look at what we call AI.
For example, automatic parking on cars inevitably has an adaptive component, but we can be sure that it won't do anything stupid either (and for example, Tesla chose to go with full machine learning on it, and they gives much worse results than the competition).
Agriculture was already using semi-automated vehicles, notably via very precise GNSS positioning, for example (and besides, I'm not convinced by a tractor without a cockpit, having a supervisor seems to me to be preferable no matter what level of automation you reach, except in some special cases (subways in particular, since they have a very controlled environment, but then you don’t need any kind of AI)).
In short, AI as it is generally referred to today is not relevant here, in my opinion. Then again, maybe it's a completely different type of AI that's relevant in this case, but that's not really the point (and it's been around a lot longer, and most people don’t complain about it).
That said, I interpreted your message as “these new AIs can have a relevant use like here", but perhaps it meant “there are other types of AIs that shouldn't be mixed up with the ones they're trying to sell us everywhere, and which aren't to be thrown away”, in which case we agree and I'm sorry for the off-topic.
Yogthos
in reply to Breizh • • •