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Please welcome on Mastodon the @esoastronomy European Southern Observatory (ESO), the European organization that builds and operates large, advanced ground-based observatories for research in astronomy and astrophysics.
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Con una trayectoria que pasa por El Periódico, El Mundo y La Vanguardia, fue un referente en el género de la entrevista y la crónica de ambiente y publicó numerosos libros
El periodista y escritor Arturo San Agustín (Barcelona, 1949) ha fallecido durante la mañana de hoy a los 76 años, según ha informado a primera hora La Vanguardia, uno de los periódicos que habían acogido sus crónicas y artículos de opinión y con el que más asiduamente colaboro en esta última etapa de su vida profesional.
Antes había sido una figura frecuente primero en El Periódico, desde donde proyectó su mirada crítica de la realidad catalana y barcelonesa, y después en el diario El Mundo. Junto a su faceta periodística, en la que se reveló un maestro de las entrevistas, desarrolló otra importante como escritor muy vinculado a temas como el Fútbol Club Barcelona, del que era un gran seguidor, y el Vaticano.
Destacan en su bibliografía títulos como El otro zoo de Barcelona, de 1976; M'agrada que em faci aquesta pregunta: l'entrevista en premsa, de 1999, La nena del Leopoldo: Una crónica de Barcelona, de 2010 o Un perro verde entre los jóvenes del Papa de 2011.
En el campo del ensayo, escribió Tras el portón de bronce, que analizaba la realidad vaticana en tiempos del papa Francisco. Otro libro relevante suyo, publicado en el 2014, fue Cuando se jodió el nuestro, en el que analizaba la complicada relación entre Catalunya y España con entrevistas incisivas a personajes como Miquel Iceta, Jordi Pujol, Josép Cuní, Enrique Juliana, José Manuel Lara o Juan Manuel Tresserras.
Nacido en Barcelona en 1949, Arturo San Agustín pasó su juventud en el barrio del Poblenou –ahora renovado y principal colonia expatriada en la ciudad– y después entre el Somorrostro y una escuela de la Barceloneta, siempre ligado a esta parte de Barcelona. Su padre trabajaba para la compañía gasista El Arenal, situada en el distrito.
Antes de dedicarse de lleno al periodismo, San Agustín trabajó durante diez años como creativo publicitario, una etapa que le sirvió para desarrollar un estilo comunicativo directo y desinhibido, repleto de matices sugerentes, que aplicó posteriormente a sus labores tanto literarias como periodísticas.
El presidente de EEUU explota el 'peloteo' del secretario general de la OTAN: "Creo que le gusto" Mark Rutte, el secretario general que hizo del servilismo a Trump una forma de liderar la OTAN Los mensajes privados del secretario general de la OTAN a Trump: “Europa pagará a lo grande”
Que Mark Rutte está encantado con Donald Trump no es ningún secreto. Primero el presidente de EEUU publicó en redes hace unos días una conversación con Rutte, secretario general de la OTAN, en la que este le adulaba hasta niveles –para muchos– bochornosos por el ataque de Estados Unidos a Irán.
Luego, ya durante el marco de la cumbre de la OTAN en La Haya, Rutte y Trump comparecieron este miércoles de forma distendida ante la prensa. Mientras el estadounidense trataba de explicar que veía el conflicto entre Israel e Irán como “dos niños en el patio del colegio” a los que hay que dejar que se peguen un rato antes de calmarse, el secretario general de la OTAN le compraba el argumento, y apostillaba: “Sometimes, daddy has to use strong language” (A veces, papi tiene que usar lenguaje fuerte).
La frase provocó la risa de algunos asistentes a la rueda de prensa, y la cosa no quedó ahí. En otra comparecencia posterior de Donald Trump ante los medios, una periodista de Sky News le preguntaba: “Mark Rutte le ha llamado papá; ¿usted ve a los aliados de la OTAN como una especie de hijos?”. Trump contestaba que Rutte es su amigo: “Le gusto, creo que le gusto, lo ha hecho con cariño… ‘papá, eres mi papá’”. De fondo, ni siquiera Marco Rubio, secretario de Estado de EEUU, podía aguantar la risa.
Y de nuevo, el asunto no ha quedado ahí. Esta madrugada, la cuenta oficial de la Casa Blanca ha publicado –en redes y en su web oficial– un vídeo de la llegada de Trump a la cumbre de la OTAN que podría parecer parodia, pero no lo es. Lleva en grande el título ‘Daddy’s home’ (la casa de papá) y va acompañada de la canción de Usher con ese mismo nombre.
Dear @creativecommons ,
I read your article about your initiative for new licenses for dataset holders in the AI industry.
Let’s be clear: I do not want to re-license my hundreds of CC-By comic pages to please AI giants.
I wish you would support CC artists suffering from massive plagiarism. You should enforce your own existing licenses against AI mass crawling. It seems you’ve joined the battle only after the casualties and still managed to side with the wrong people.
creativecommons.org/2025/06/25…
CC Signals © 2025 by Creative Commons is licensed under CC BY 4.0 Creative Commons (CC) today announces the public kickoff of the CC signals project, a new preference signals framework designed to increase reciprocity and sustain a creative commons i…Anonymous (Creative Commons)
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Meanwhile in #Gaza:
WATCH: “In a courtyard shattered by war and stripped of all signs of life, I found children sweeping the rubble with their tiny hands, trying to bring back a place that was once a playground. They ran barefoot after a faded ball, as if chasing days that haven't arrived yet. I walked closer and asked one of them, ‘Aren't you scared of the drones?’ He looked up, breathless, and said, ‘When did we ever stop playing?’”
via Eye On Palestine on Telegram
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We design custom LEGO® models of all sorts. From kinetic sculptures to 'intelligent' robots and everything in between.YouTube
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Mothers and doctors in Gaza say formula shortages risk babies’ lives, blaming Israel’s aid blockade
https://www.euronews.com/health/2025/06/26/mothers-and-doctors-in-gaza-say-formula-shortages-risk-babies-lives-blaming-israels-aid-bl?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
Posted into Europe News @europe-news-euronews
Rights groups say the war and the blockade have sparked a humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip, though Israel says it is allowing in vital aid.Euronews.com
Plus: The Constitution is clear: You can just do things.Joe Perticone (The Bulwark)
Gaza est un camp de la mort où les SS sont Israéliens.
Et ils s'en vantent en postant leurs tueries sur TikTok et Instagram !
Les USA fournissent les armes et le veto à l'ONU.
Les Allemands (qui n'ont pas compris les leçons de leur passé nazi) cautionnent cette répétition inversée de leurs crimes au nom de la "raison d'État".
Les Britanniques, usual bastards.
Les Français, bavards hypocrites.
Et le monde non-occidental regarde ça avec un dégoût croissant.
C'est une mauvaise configuration 😒
Elderly and disabled people told Congress that cutting Medicaid would kill people and in response they were zip tied and arrested in their wheelchairs.
#USA #DeathPolicies #BillionaireTaxCuts #Capitalism #SocialMurder #Politicians #SanitizedMurder #ProfitMotive #Bribery #Corruption #Murder #USGovernment #Politics #Death #DeathCult #ChristoFascism
The absolute “chutzpah” of the “Defence” minster of a genocidal terrorist state declaring that an Iranian bank is a terrorist organisation!
“Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz [..] yesterday announced that he has signed a special order declaring the Central Bank of Iran a terrorist organisation”
via MintPress News on Telegram
#Press #Gaza #WestBank #Palestine #Resistance #Israel #Genocide #Terrorism #WarCrimes #SettlerColonialism #Zionism #Barbarity #BloodLust
Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz took to X yesterday and announced that he has signed a special order declaring the Central Bank of Iran a terrorist organisation.Telegram
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Chinese President Xi Jinping and Mozambican President Daniel Chapo exchanged congratulations on 50th anniversary of diplomatic ties on Wednesday.en.qstheory.cn
Edi Rama said things that would have been inconceivable a decade ago are now normal in the UKArchie Mitchell (The Independent)
On Wednesday, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban pledged to prevent Ukraine from joining the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).teleSURenglish
"Capitalism is incompatible with any kind of human flourishing on this planet"
== Donald #Trump réclame l’annulation du procès de Benyamin #Nétanyahou ==
« J’ai été choqué d’apprendre que l’Etat d’ #Israël, qui vient de vivre l’un des plus grands moments de son histoire et qui est fortement dirigé par “Bibi” Nétanyahou, poursuit sa ridicule chasse aux sorcières contre son immense premier ministre de temps de la guerre ! », écrit le républicain dans un très long message.
« “Bibi” Nétanyahou a été un GUERRIER, comme il n’y en a jamais eu dans l’histoire d’Israël, et le résultat a été quelque chose que personne ne pensait possible, l’élimination complète de potentiellement l’une des plus puissantes armes nucléaires dans le monde », déclare M. Trump.
« Probablement personne d’autre que Benyamin Nétanyahou n’aurait pu travailler en meilleure harmonie avec le président des Etats-Unis. Les #Etats-Unis ont sauvé #Israel et maintenant les Etats-Unis vont sauver “Bibi ”Nétanyahou. CETTE PARODIE DE “JUSTICE” NE PEUT ÊTRE AUTORISÉE ! »
« Il mérite bien mieux que cela, et l’Etat d’Israël aussi. Le procès de “Bibi” Nétanyahou devrait être ANNULÉ IMMÉDIATEMENT, ou une grâce devrait être accordée à un grand héros qui a tant fait pour l’Etat », écrit encore le président américain.
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Death toll in Kenyan anti-government protests rises to 16, says rights group
https://www.africanews.com/2025/06/26/death-toll-in-kenyan-anti-government-protests-rises-to-16-says-rights-group/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
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Amnesty International says most of the dead were killed by police during the nationwide demonstration.Africanews
In Spain, parents gather at school gates to remember Gaza’s child victims
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/26/in-spain-parents-gather-at-school-gates-to-remember-gazas-child-victims?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
Posted into Global News @global-news-AlJazeera
Aghast at the scale of Israel’s onslaught, a group in the city of Granada protests ‘against genocide’.Alasdair Fotheringham (Al Jazeera)
Another point of view
What motivates Trump, Netanyahu, and Khamenei? In this talk, Professor Jiang explains that all three have a messianic calling.Join the Predictive History Di...YouTube
A Palestinian elderly woman was martyred at dawn Wednesday when the Israeli occupation forces (IOF) opened fire at her during a raid in Shuafat refugee camp in east Jerusalem.ABNA English
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Campaign group say piece responds to tech billionaires’ ‘dangerous’ mission to make humans interplanetaryJamie Grierson (The Guardian)
Just now catching up on some of the posts from this past week. I have stayed off x and just peeked in a little here and there on telegram and here. I’ve been so busy with coordinating home repairs and researching for bath remodel that I just now saw this… interesting
I just use x now for researching clips and more. There’s definitely a psyop game going on over there. I fell for it and stepping away helped me evaluate Trump and what’s going on better.
In God We Trust
In einem Gespräch, das sich wie ein wirtschaftlicher #Seismograph liest, entlarvt der Finanzexperte Alexander #Streeb die #Altersvorsorge der Deutschen als fragile Illusion. Im Interview mit Markus #Langemann vom Club der klaren Worte spricht er nicht nur als Fachmann, sondern als Gewissen einer Branche, die sich in Deckung windet.
Streebs Bilanz ist vernichtend: Private Renten- und #Lebensversicherungen seien nichts weiter als „staatlich gedeckte Schuldscheine“, deren Auszahlungsversprechen durch Paragraph 314 des Versicherungsaufsichtsgesetzes jederzeit einkassiert werden können – ganz legal. Noch gravierender: Selbst wenn Versicherungen ihre Leistungen kürzen oder ganz verweigern, bleibt der Kunde zur #Beitragszahlung verpflichtet.
Streeb schildert, wie ganze Generationen unter dem Vorwand von Sicherheit Verträge abgeschlossen haben, die real – inflationsbereinigt – massive Verluste produzieren. Und er benennt Ross und Reiter: Politiker wie Friedrich Merz oder Ursula von der Leyen, die offen darüber sprechen, wie man an das Ersparte der Bürger „herankommt“.
Gleichzeitig warnt Streeb vor einem digital kontrollierten Finanzregime aus #Bargeldverbot, programmierbarem Euro und einem europaweiten Vermögensregister – flankiert von der neuen AMLA-Behörde, einem „trojanischen Pferd“ zur Überwachung der Finanzströme jedes Einzelnen.
Was bleibt, ist ein dramatischer Appell: Wer nicht selbst Verantwortung für sein #Vermögen übernimmt, wird es verlieren. Und mit ihm seine #Freiheit.
Das ganze Interview jetzt im
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Für den clubderklarenworte.de
Club der klaren Worte - unabhängige Berichterstattung - nicht nur der Journalismus, sondern die tradierten Medienhäuser, befinden sich in der Mediengesellschaft der Gegenwart in einer nie gekannten inhaltlichen KriseLangemann Medien GmbH
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The influential Israel lobby has a loyal friend in Yvette Cooper. Palestine Action must have a loyal friend in us!Ed Sykes (The Canary)
It feels weird to just jump into a generic Linux community and ask a question. It's nice being so small - kinda like the internet used to be.
Anyway, I've been running Linux servers for decades but only recently switched my desktop. I first tried Debian 12 and I'm now on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed - I switched in the hope of getting newer drivers and maybe fixing this issue.
I have a HP laptop with onboard Intel graphics and an external monitor connected with USB-C. In general it works great - until it doesn't. From time to time the external monitor does not wake up after a suspend. Normally turning the monitor off and back on will cause some sort of driver reset and it comes back. Once or twice this has not helped and I've had to reboot.
I'm running Xorg as Wayland on Tumbleweed won't start on t his machine. Wayland may have worked with Debian, I don't recall. I don't think it's worth listing details of my versions as it's happened on two distros and through a couple of minor updates to Xorg on openSUSE. It happens with KDE or LXDE.
Any suggestions?
Does it work if you unplug and replug?
In general, yes.
If you hit a button other than power does it wake up, or does it say "no signal" or something?
Yes.
Does the laptop see it?
I'm assuming not as it does not display on it. Next time it happens I'll see what xrandr says.
Anything in any log?
Nothing in Xorg.0.log and nothing that seems related in the journal. I'll keep journalctl --follow running and see if anything that I didn't pick as being related comes up next time it happens.
Can you force a redetection from the laptop?
Probably, but I don't know how.
you're running way too old a distro for what you want. debian 12 has its merits as a server, you install it and leave it be and it just works.
what you want - fluidity with power management, dock/undock, etc - although achievable with tweaking this and that isn't being worked on, not on X, not on debian 12, so it's not like those things will eventually get there. so you need a semi-modern distro, like ubuntu or fedora or even trixie.
wayland isn't new, it's default on a lot of distros since 2021 or so, so you can be sure that your use case was previosly met and solved. costs you nothing to boot e.g. F42 off a USB and try it out (has to be 42 as earlier live sessions default to X11). if you have lots of RAM, add the rd.live.ram
switch so it copies the image to RAM and everything is super-snappy for testing and it doesn't touch your SSD.
#NATO threatens #China and #Russia
Didn't the deafening defeat in #Ukraine teach them anything?
Are they that stupid?
youtube.com/watch?v=bU8hdkbMS3…
The NATO summit in The Hague is a show of collective threat and money laundering for the US Military Industrial Complex. Compelte vasselage of the Europeans ...YouTube
As governments across Europe continue to tighten belts, cutting essential services under the banner of fiscal responsibility, one sector never seems to feel the pinch: the defence industry.Dorset Eye (Dorset Eye Ltd)
Don't like Laura, but this is important because using the 1st Amendment as an excuse is what MSM does. The last time I heard it was from The Atlantic, during that mess with Hegseth. One of the Karens said, "My editor has the right to free speech." A few of us were arguing the point. Islamists do, too. It's abused by the left, but we're not allowed the same right.
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‼️The leaks are not done under the First Amendment... they're done to damage POTUS‼️Todd Blanche U.S. Dep AG: This type of conduct will be investigated fully. #PHPnews #agl #XTeamTruth Social
Palestine Action's antics weren't terrorism, but Starmer's welfare cuts and water companies spilling sewage into drinking water could beJamie Driscoll (The Canary)
"We have Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology."
-- E. O. Wilson, describing humanity
I use fediverse, meme sites, and the occasional visit to /pol for my news
And I’m regularly weeks, months, or years ahead of normie acquaintances that watch cable news
Ewan McGregor on the set of #Trainspotting —1996
"The bowl was full of different types of #chocolate. The set smelled really sweet — delicious, really, kind of like a confectionary. You could have licked the chocolate right off the bowl."
— Danny Boyle
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If it's not obviously genocide, what is it?
Iran’s supreme leader says could hit US bases again in future, as Israeli attacks kill at least 14 in north Gaza today.Tim Hume (Al Jazeera)
Le bûcher de l’inquisition scientifique
Comme au bon vieux temps de la Sainte #Inquisition, Jean-Marc #Sabatier fait l’objet d’un procès en sorcellerie instruit par les nouveaux Torquemada médiatiques qui réclament son excommunication du sacro-saint #CNRS. Mais #ChatGPT et l’université américaine de #Stanford brossent un autre portrait du chercheur.À quelques jours d’intervalle plusieurs médias ont jeté l’anathème sur Jean-Marc Sabatier, chercheur au CNRS, parce que ses prises de position sur la #covid-19 et les ‘’ #vaccins’’ (guillemets obligatoires) anti-Covid vont à contre-courant du fameux ‘’consensus scientifique’’ que les géants de la tech et la meute médiatique nous imposent depuis cinq ans. Sabatier dérange les bien-pensants, les abonnés au dogme #BigPharma et à leurs énormes profits. Il faut donc le faire taire, le censurer, l’invisibiliser, le calomnier et demander son exclusion du CNRS.
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#santé #médecine #covid #vaccination #injections #vaccinovigilance #pharmacovigilance #science
Comme au bon vieux temps de la Sainte Inquisition, Jean-Marc Sabatier fait l’objet d’un procès en sorcellerie instruit par les nouveaux Torquemada médiatiques qui réclament son excommunication du sacro-saint CNRS.Marcel Gay (Infodujour)
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The second of the Meteosat Third Generation (MTG) satellites and the first instrument for the Copernicus Sentinel-4 mission are ready for liftoff at Cape Canaveral in Florida, US. Live coverage of this launch will be shown on ESA WebTV, not earlier than Tuesday, 1 July.
#news #space #science #esa #europeanspaceagency
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🚨 BUSTED: AOC EXPOSED Over “Bronx Girl” Claim 🧢
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is once again claiming to be a tough “Bronx girl” — but a New York Republican lawmaker just pulled her yearbook receipts. 💀
Assemblyman Matt Slater posted a photo of AOC from Yorktown High School — a nice, quiet suburb an hour north of the Bronx.
🗣️ “If you’re a BX girl then why are you in my Yorktown yearbook? Give it up already,” he wrote.
So while AOC plays the role of a gritty inner-city underdog, she actually spent her teen years in Westchester County — one of the wealthiest areas in New York.
This is classic Democrat behavior: pretend to be a working-class hero while living off the perks of a privileged zip code. 💼🎭
Sorry, AOC — the whole “Bronx girl” shtick just got fact-checked.
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The Financial Times publishes an article examining the interaction between Russia and Iran. Western analysts are inclined to state in light of recent events that "Iran is no longer Russia's helper in the Ukrainian conflict.novosti (Военное обозрение)
The first non-opoid painkiller
Link: worksinprogress.news/p/the-fir…
Discussion: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4…
Journavx was approved this year. Why did it take so long to develop?Michelle Ma (The Works in Progress Newsletter)
President of the Kyrgyz Republic Sadyr Japarov has arrived in Belarus on a working visit. His plane landed at Minsk National Airport, BelTA has learned.Belarusian Telegraph Agency
Aghast at the scale of Israel’s onslaught, a group in the city of Granada protests ‘against genocide’.Alasdair Fotheringham (Al Jazeera)
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⬅️ #AGauche ⬅️
Incroyable, la télé belge inflige une claque aux sionistes, en renvoyant un négationniste
David Revoy
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in reply to David Revoy • • •Adam
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in reply to David Revoy • • •eobet
in reply to David Revoy • • •you can use this NOAI license until someone makes a better one 😇
eobet.com/fun/noai/
BY-NOAI-NC-NFC-NM-SA
eobet.comArne Babenhauserheide
in reply to David Revoy • • •I would be happy if they just said: there were always clear rules. cc by can be used by machines, but then every single creator whose creations got used must be attributed properly.
Most of my creations are under cc by-sa. If a machine builds something on top of my creations, the rule *should* be clear: keep the license. If it reads cc by-sa, it must be cc by-sa (or a compatible license like GPLv3).
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Damien Goutte-Gattat
in reply to David Revoy • • •@David Revoy This thing, along with the IETF draft that it is built upon, seems like a perfect excuse for the genAI leeches to keep sucking whatever they want.
“Well, of course we ingested your stuff in our model. If you didn’t want us to do that, all you had to do was to configure your webserver to return a
Content-Usage: ai=n
header; by not doing so, you in fact consented to us doing whatever we want.(And if you did configure your webserver to return that header, tough luck, we‘ll do whatever we want anyway, because what are you going to do, sue us?)”
Carl Schwan
in reply to David Revoy • • •from the 4 proposed signals (credit, direct contribution, ecosystem contribution and open), none of them is about forbidding the usage of the assets to train AI😬
creativecommons.org/ai-and-the…
CC Signals Implementation - Creative Commons
Creative CommonsJenny
in reply to David Revoy • • •David Benqué
in reply to David Revoy • • •Glowing Cat of the Nuclear Wastelands
in reply to David Revoy • • •The fact that there isn't a "no AI use" option is first and foremost telling about who this is for. It's an after the fact permission of the abuse that these companies have already subjected us all to.
They've been abusing both shared resources (the environment), and the resources of others (our intellectual property, and the web servers we host our stuff on), and by extension have violated the social contract.
And even if there was a no AI option with these new rules for Creative Commons, the past behavior of these companies has made it crystal clear that they won't bother respecting it. They pull back when big enough companies push back, but the rest of us can't afford to go after them in court, so they just run right over us like we don't matter.
All this is, is giving them permission after they've already abused the common good will. Doing that will only further build up their sense of entitlement.
Who did you all consult? Just the AI companies, right? No one who actually has looked at the harm these companies are doing, clearly.
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
chris huf
in reply to David Revoy • • •As long as certain countries allow to circumvent copyright for dtata mining.they can create as many new icons as they want. As long as (C) does not work, CC wouldn't either.
Chris Real
in reply to David Revoy • • •The people most affected are the experts here.
We should listen to the creators, and not to those who claim to REPRESENT them, when the creators say they are not being represented.
It's just Occam's Razor in the real world, y'all . . .
Alexey Skobkin
in reply to David Revoy • • •But... Who are the right people?
And what do you expect as the "right" solution? To deny CC-licensed art usage for machine learning by default? I don't think that would be fair too.
K.N. Brindle (they/them)
in reply to David Revoy • • •I just read this and... I have no idea what they're saying. It just seems to be an entire page of jargon and rah-rah devoid of any actual meaning.
As far as I can see, the fundamental issue is that they're proceeding from the flawed position that the "AI" companies have any redeeming value to society at large whatsoever (they don’t), and that they care what license we publish under (they don’t).
Jim Flanagan
in reply to David Revoy • • •Marsh Ray
in reply to David Revoy • • •Looks like they have a wishy-washy page that speaks to some of that.
creativecommons.org/about/lega…
Perhaps the creation, recognition, and use (or choice to not use) of a new “AI=Yes” license would go against whatever arguments fly now.
Or they could just be flushing their credibility.
Legal - Creative Commons
Creative Commonspurple 💜
in reply to David Revoy • • •Thad
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in reply to David Revoy • • •Diotima
in reply to David Revoy • • •"Expanding copyright to control AI training risks stifling innovation and access to knowledge."
Yeah okay sure.
@creativecommons, this is embarrassing.
Bradley M. Kuhn
in reply to David Revoy • • •This is yet another example of how Creative Commons has – since its inception by Larry Lessig – always designed policy from a libertarian sense of regulatory minimalism.
I'm not an expert on any area of creativity other than software, but I believe a strong regulatory regime that holds Big Tech accountable is paramount.
“Moving fast and breaking things” should not be a default for policy makers who care about individual creators.
Cf: CC-BY-SA isn't an actual copyleft.
Cc: @creativecommons
KM6ECC
in reply to David Revoy • • •Nafeon
in reply to David Revoy • • •I upvoted this issue on their github maybe if helps if enough people are doing this: github.com/creativecommons/cc-…
@creativecommons
The goal should be protection, not Ingratiation
steph72 (GitHub)Trash Panda
in reply to David Revoy • • •But it does sound like they sided with the EVIL people, that's for sure.
And if the evil side is the right side for someone that says a lot about that someone.
Loyal
in reply to David Revoy • • •the missing NOAI tag is the reason im sceptical of using a CC license.
I can understand that allowing AI keeps things more open, but it really should be a creattors choice to say no if they do not want to support that industry. I believe that is part of why we want a license to protect work from AI.
Ewen Bell 📸
in reply to David Revoy • • •Emily 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) 🔜 BIJ1 Congress
in reply to David Revoy • • •Johnny Than
in reply to David Revoy • • •Aaron Caskey-Demaret
in reply to David Revoy • • •At least the github issues page is somewhat heartening...
github.com/creativecommons/cc-…
creativecommons/cc-signals
GitHubLeah
in reply to David Revoy • • •"building a more equitable, sustainable AI ecosystem rooted in shared benefits" Shared benefits? LOL. I don't want to share anything with fascist, world burning billionaires and their dream machines.
I don't see why we need extra signals and I don't see how it would help if their bots circumvent any measures and contracts we had for ages. The ones who have to change are not we who want to share and value an open internet, its them who must change! @creativecommons
SuperDicq
in reply to David Revoy • • •joël
in reply to David Revoy • • •They have a forum on github: github.com/creativecommons/cc-…
Would be cool if more people commented there, so they can't just ignore "a few people on mastodon".
creativecommons cc-signals · Discussions
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in reply to David Revoy • • •Soc Endormiscat (shonk edition)
in reply to David Revoy • • •did you miss the article where they explicitly said that all previously existing CC licenses are NOT compatible with AI training (unless crediting in the training data –and only some of them–, but let's be honest, AI companies would rather kill themselves, so this is virtually a prohibition.)
I don't think this CC Signals license article is actually directed to artists, I think this is a smokescreen to trick AI companies into feeling catered to; by explicitly creating an AI-friendly license they actively impede the AI companies from trying to ever argue that the previous CC derivative licenses were vague enough for AI training or in a "use case too new to be covered by a license" grey-area.
I really can't see how someone could see these two articles side by side and believe that Creative Commons was on anyone's side but the artists who use CC licenses
Jectoons
in reply to David Revoy • • •This is all very confusing and, honestly, a let down. I agree with you that it seems they're just trying to work with llms instead of maybe supporting the community of Cultural Workers that have been using CC licences for years.
This is part of why I believe Free-Culture is just a stepping stone to what sharing Culture should be, and not an end goal. Also why I believe that allowing organizations like Creative Commons to control the narrative on Free-Culture is dangerous.
Perhaps it's time to move to different sets of licences, or to ignore the organization completely and use the licenses as normal. I have often wondered, if Creative Commons ceases to exist, are licenses still valid?
Anywho. @creativecommons , this is stupid.
Soso
in reply to David Revoy • • •given that a US judge just ruled that train a model on top of books is fair use what do you expect creative commons to be able to do to fight against that?
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77vr0…
The battle may not be lost in other jurisdiction but most AI companies are american so I don't really see what can be done.
US Judge sides with AI firm Anthropic over copyright issue
Natalie Sherman and Lucy Hooker (BBC News)Nacho
in reply to David Revoy • • •I don't think we need any new @creativecommons licenses, the existing ones should be enough. We just want them to be respected.
CC-BY means that if your LLM outputs something based on my stuff, I want to be credited.
CC-SA means if your LLM uses my stuff, the model needs to be shared.
CC-NC means if your LLM uses my stuff, you can't charge for using your LLM.
The meaning of CC licenses is clear, we don't need new shit.
Stefan Bartsch
in reply to David Revoy • • •Well, the articles on the website are really wishy washy and unclear what this all means (LLM generated?).
The report however is a bit more clear and and far as i understand it this is not meant to be a new licence; more like add ons you can use if you decide to allow reuse for AI. It seems to be comparable with the "Do not track" signal.
That's totally fine in my opinion. I don't think though that we will see big effects if the big AI firms just ignore it
Guilhem Bonnefille
in reply to David Revoy • • •Lauma Pret 🕸️
in reply to David Revoy • • •JesseTong
Unknown parent • • •David Revoy
Unknown parent • • •Eg. The Terminator picture with a guitar generated (in your link) is clearly reusing the Terminator Intellectual Property. It's an accumulation of elements: the glasses, the face, body, the jacket... If you try to make a business with selling this picture, the copyright owner (StudioCanal) might sue you and win easily.
Arne Babenhauserheide
Unknown parent • • •@prinlu under current *US* law.
Those decisions are being disputed, though.
@davidrevoy @creativecommons
JesseTong
Unknown parent • • •David Revoy
Unknown parent • • •@prinlu @ArneBab No: the court refused the author of "A Recent Entrance To Paradise" to be copyrighted. Not a case of a owner fighting for their intellectual properties.
The fact "it can't be copyrighted" doesn't mean it cannot be attacked if it degrades the Intellectual property of a brand, or owner, or bring them commercial prejudices.
The result of this bbc.com/news/articles/cg5vjqdm… will answer (on a US law POV) the debate around Intellectual Property usage in AI output...
Artificial intelligence: Disney and Universal sue Midjourney over copyright
Tom Espiner (BBC News)JesseTong
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