Vladimir Putin: They themselves will soon die there - Réseau International
"We know better than anyone what threatens us and what does not. It is our right to determine our level of security and the level of threats that may approach us from one side or the other."Valerik Orlov (Réseau International)
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in reply to comum • • •Ah, sorry to read - I like the idea of Bcachefs and would have been happy to have it ready for production eventually.
OTOH it seems the recent years I read more about the drama about Bcachefs commits to the kernel, than about any technical parts of Bcachefs.
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in reply to comum • • •My uneducated kernel take. Flexibility is acceptable and desirable in small projects or low impact projects.
When the majority of the internet and a good chunk of PC are dependent on your project, predictability and stability is much more important than flexibility.
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in reply to comum • • •Anyone else here actively put off by Linux drama and headlines like "Torvalds Drops support After Clash!"
EDIT: New rule?
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in reply to MartianSands • • •Filesystems are incredibly antiquated, and while I don't agree with Kent's attitude, it is very important in the long run that filesystems catch back up.
As it stands just about any enterprise system you can poke a stick at is rolling their own customised file storage system, with a traditional filesystem typically being a misshapen dead weight sitting somewhere in the middle of it - existing because it's the only thing the kernel can integrate with.
It is pretty important that this trend reverses, and bcachefs was a big step in the right direction. Unfortunate that Kent is the way he is.
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in reply to James R Kirk • • •At the very least, it would be far more of a circus, as the follow-up articles would read "LINUX KERNEL CREATOR LINUS TORVALDS MAKES DEVESTATING REPLY TO FOSS DRAMA!"
But yeah, I think shit like that would just make devs want to go work for a company, because at least when they make a shitty closed sourced, exploitive program people are mad at the company, not them, specifically. They don't have to deal with this shit.
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Unknown parent • • •Yeah, this one is on Kent... again.
He posted on Patreon that there'll be a DKMS module. In my opinion, this should have been the option from the very beginning and upstreaming at a later point in time. It would have avoided a lot of drama. And now bcachefs is kind of tainted. The only way I ever see it back in mainline is there is an independent downstream of Kent's kernel that has no connection to him whatsoever.
Shame because I had very good experience with the filesystem. Definitely better than when btrfs was new. But Linus is unfortunately right; Kent is unable to follow agreed collaboration rules.
Unfortunate situation that could have been avoided entirely. Though I don't want to be too harsh on Kent. He spent a lot of time and work on bcachefs and it's his most important project. As such, he's more passionate about all of this. But the same can be said for Linus and the kernel on the other side.
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Unknown parent • • •If he cant communicate with linus as to why his patch is actually bugfix then he cant contribute to the kernel.