language and localization
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Anyway, how the heck do you switch languages? I mean, I've tried, fcitx and uim. Both work fine on joborun, but I've some issues, uim is hard af to manage and idk how to get it running on the terminal, any terminal though I use st--and therefore vim. For fcitx, I have made it work. But both kill the system somehow if I press the F keys, as in F5, F6, or XK keys, as in to lower audio or whatever. Maybe you're not the guy I should be sending this to and I'm wasting your time, but idk, any recommendations?
In X the best place for keyboards and languages is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf
Overall system language settings is best set at /etc/locale.conf /etc/locale.gen then run locale-gen to pass the settings
On labwc ~/.config/labwc/environment
What you describe with the F keys is some program remapping key combinations for different power functions, but what you mean about "kill the system" is not very clear. Shutdown, reboot, loose graphical environment and exiting to console?
Runit only allows system going down with the 4 functions in /usr/bin/run/{poweroff,reboot,shutdown,halt} where it is best to only use /usr/bin/run/reboot and /usr/bin/run/reboot -f as root
Not all software are translated to all languages, so it is best to have a 2nd language you are semi-comfortable with as backup when your 1st choice doesn't work.
Also, to keep the installation image small all language and documentation is removed, you may have to reinstall a specific program to get manuals and language specific labels ..etc.
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in reply to joborun linux • • •Oh, sorry, I'm kind of new to the fediverse/diaspora. What I meant is that, whenever I pressed one of those keys, the X environment would keep working, technically, but it would just freeze. So, I couldn't do anything, not even switch between switch to any other TTY. The cause: A deprecated command inside my .xinitrc file:
Used it as a temporary fix for some program to work, but it's deprecated to have such thing inside xinit.
Still, regarding /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf, it's a great solution for Latin languages such as Deutsch, Portuguese, etc. Though, it's, perhaps just easier to use "setxkbmap" on the run or making a script, but falls short when dealing with languages like Chinese, Japanese, and Korean. Extremely annoying, but it seems that the only viable way to make them work is using fcitx, ibus or whatever bloated IME :/. The best solution I've found so far, is getting 'uim', removing all the bloat and then compiling it using musl-gcc or tcc by yourself (possible, but a pain in the ass, plus it may bring a lot of compatibility issues with some programs).
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in reply to joborun linux • • •I have used setxkbmap in menu of a wm to switch instead of shortcut/keybinds before, but I don\t know/understand why it wouldn't work with some valid system languages.
I made this kbd-tapper program that may help in identifying language/kbd settings in your X, it claims to work on wayland, gnome/kde is disabled but the --xkb "layouter " is still needed to be specified
See the manual here kbd-tapper.sourceforge.io/tapp…
I accept total ignorance of E.Asian language keyboards and difficulties, I assume they exist on english dominated computer environment. EN is not our native language either .. but is common and popular among unix/linux users so we have to live with it.
Symbols and symbolism should be seen as what they are, confusing crap coming from a subjective theistic culture of primitive people. We can assign visual and audio symbols to refer to a tree, different in every corner of the world, but the tree in front of us remains the same one tree whatever we call it. Keyboard keys and their combinations send a unique signal by opening closing circuits to a system that wouldn't understand any human language but only its own.
So if I say un, uno, one, ena, uahad, ein, 1 is still a symbol of the concept of 1
I think comrades Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Yong Un, would agree with me up to this point ... we can disagree on many others 😀
If we were in Hollywood land I would have said "god help you" and avoid further investigation ... luckily we are not.
% tapper --xkb --list-layouts
shows which and if defined lang/kbd sets are defined in X, and I believe come from that /etc/x11/...conf file you mention
They must be set right so you can set key combinations to switch between them
So if the above command doesn't show any or only one switching is not possible.
tapper: Keyboard layout switcher for X Window System and Wayland
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