learning a language is so fun. when i was a teen i had too much shame and too many extracurriculars to do much other than the spanish classes in high school, but linguistics in general has been a special interest that i kinda-sorta let go unloved? sorta. for me, tech and linguistics are one single larger interest. i like both for the same reasons. i wanna learn more languages!!!!
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this leads me to what i hate most about LLMs. not the lies or the ecological evil, but the personal hatred of the field's utter disregard for any actual science of linguistics and languages. techniques of refining models do not represent advancements in processing language or generating useful responses. it's fancy guesswork that lies about being language.

i maintain that the responses generated by LLMs does not qualify as "language".

Couldn't resist so I gave Rachael's arguments to ChatGPT and I asked it for a rebuttal. It only seemed fair. 😉 ---------- That’s a strong critique, and it deserves a thoughtful response. Here’s a structured rebuttal that addresses the core concerns without dismissing the legitimate points behind them: --- **1. “LLMs aren’t language, they’re fancy guesswork.”** Yes, LLMs are fundamentally statistical pattern matchers. They don’t "understand" language in the way humans do—they model *form*, not *meaning*, by predicting likely word sequences. But this doesn't disqualify them from producing *language*. Language is, at its core, a structured signal system governed by patterns, and LLMs are very good at modeling those patterns. **Counterpoint:** Language as humans use it has always relied on prediction, pattern, and statistical regularity. Children don’t learn language by studying formal grammars—they internalize usage patterns. LLMs mimic this, albeit in a different (and much shallower) way. If a system produces coherent sentences that people interpret meaningfully, denying that it’s “language” becomes a philosophical stance rather than an empirical one. --- **2. “LLMs ignore linguistic science.”** This is partly true. Many LLM architectures, especially early ones, were developed without deep engagement with linguistic theory. They're engineering-first tools. However, recent research increasingly connects LLM behavior with linguistic phenomena—syntax, semantics, pragmatics, etc. **Counterpoint:** While they didn’t emerge *from* linguistics, LLMs now serve as testbeds *for* linguistic hypotheses. They show surprising emergent behaviors (like understanding long-distance dependencies or discourse structure) that align with linguistic theory—even if not perfectly. That’s not to say they're replacements for theory, but they're tools with real utility. --- **3. “Refining LLMs isn’t progress in language processing.”** If your definition of progress is rooted in theoretical understanding of language, you might be disappointed. But if it’s about building tools that produce useful language outputs across translation, summarization, Q\&A, education, etc., then LLMs represent a giant leap forward. **Counterpoint:** Just because LLMs don’t solve *fundamental* questions in linguistics doesn’t mean they aren’t progress. They’re like early planes: they didn’t explain gravity, but they flew. That’s still remarkable engineering. --- **4. “LLMs lie about being language.”** They don’t lie. People do—by overhyping them or anthropomorphizing them. LLMs are tools. They simulate language use without consciousness or intent. The criticism should be aimed at those misusing them or misrepresenting their capabilities, not the models themselves. --- **In summary:** LLMs aren’t replacements for linguistic theory, but they *do* generate language, as defined by usage and comprehension. They’re flawed, impressive, limited, and powerful—sometimes all at once. Dismissing them entirely risks ignoring the genuinely novel linguistic behavior they exhibit, even if that behavior arises from "fancy guesswork." If you're open to it, this isn't a war between real linguistics and AI—it’s a potential collaboration.


this leads me to what i hate most about LLMs. not the lies or the ecological evil, but the personal hatred of the field's utter disregard for any actual science of linguistics and languages. techniques of refining models do not represent advancements in processing language or generating useful responses. it's fancy guesswork that lies about being language.

i maintain that the responses generated by LLMs does not qualify as "language".


Key Netanyahu ally says October 7 massacre 'saved the people of Israel' haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-0…
in reply to matte

Hard to say. I'm not a historian, so I can only speculate. I would assume that Hitler would eventually select a successor and there is no way of telling how good that person would be at keeping the Reich in order.

comparable to say Soviet communism’s collapse in the real world


As far as I understand it, the fall of the Soviet Union was preceded by at least a decade of economic struggle that was caused by a multitude of factors. Basically the only thing they had to export was oil and weapons and the only nations they could trade with were relatively poor. When their oil production cost kept rising, they just couldn't keep their exports high enough to import enough food and luxury goods to keep their population happy. This was a prime driver for unrest in regions that bordered the west, especially East Germany who of course got news of what life in West Germany was like. The Soviets were eventually forced to open the Berlin Wall and from there, there was nothing they could do to keep people from just leaving and fully collapsing the economy in the process. To this day, 35 years after the reunion, former East Germany is way behind the rest of the country even though on paper they have the same chances as everyone else, just because there has been a massive brain drain.

So overall, the collapse of the Soviet Union was less a failure of communism itself and more a failure to counteract their economic weaknesses as well as a result of their isolationism. The USA didn't win the Cold War because of the inherent superiority of capitalism but because the world drinks Coca Cola, wears jeans, watches Hollywood movies and works with IBM-compatible PCs. If the Soviet Union had pivoted their economy to those kinds of goods and had managed to export them to the west, they might have become what China is today.

So it all comes down to the question if alternate-history Germany manages to do that. With technology advancing slower overall and therefore becoming less of a factor in global markets, and at the same time keeping a lot of top scientists who in the real world left for the other superpowers, they could probably do it.

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I wish there was a way in #Sharkey to either automatically #hide #posts I've #seen before or manually hide/ dismiss posts I've seen before. My #timeline is full of people #reboosting the same posts over and over and over again. Which is fine! I get that! And I'm not complaining about that. But it results in me seeing the same damn posts over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.......

You get the idea.

"Absolute horror show as FL gets started bldg its own IMM detn cen.🚨🐊 ALCATRAZ to hold human beings in an area surrounded by alligators & snakes in horrific heat & w NO oversight."
-N Gupta

"They'll send ppl to horrific situations with no #dueprocess *direct violation of promises the SG made to the Ct in previous cases.

This greenlights sending ppl to be enslaved in Libya or tortured in any random foreign C."
-A R-Melnick
#TrumpRegime/R SCJ👿
PROTEST‼️
#Immigrants #USPol
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Economists praise "price discrimination" as "efficient." That's when a company charges customers different sums based on inferences about their willingness to pay. But when a firm sells you something for $2 that someone else can buy for $1, they're valuing the dollars in your pocket at half the rate of the other guy's.

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If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free blog:

pluralistic.net/2025/06/24/pri…

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in reply to tasket

@tasket @Gargron s

See pluralistic.net/2023/04/16/how… in which I explain my choice of servers, etc, as well as how to filter threads in your timeline.

My threads are CC BY, and available in fulltext RSS. You can remix that feed however you'd like including publishing it on Fediverse in a format you prefer.

I publish in multiple formats and you are more than welcome to unfollow here and get them some other way.

As my bio notes, 'I post long threads.'

in reply to Cory Doctorow

@Gargron Thanks, but I decided to switch to using RSS for your feed. The issue is that I still want to see "Long threads" emerge in my TL, but only the first 1 or 2 parts.

Mastodon has remained assiduously non-algorithmic in its TL presentation. So in rejecting complex, blackbox algorithms it also rejects ones that could be less than 4 lines of open code yet very beneficial to the users' pursuit of "effective communication" to use Eugen's term.

in reply to tasket

@tasket @Gargron This is what I do and it actually works wonders for me. I think the chopping up and posting is automated though? But you’ve touched on another reason why I just don’t read threads on here very often. If there’s a thread with like five or six post? I simply won’t read it. Give me a blog post with a three hour estimated reading time and day of the week though and I will sit down and read that whole post in one go!
in reply to Cory Doctorow

Ah! Gotcha! I thought it was automated, so thanks for clearing that up! I wish more instances had giant character limits like mine. It makes posting things like this far easier and with 1 simple CW I don't clog up people's timelines !but to the other person, he usually posts his link in his first post at the top of the thread, so if you see a chunk, go to the first post. For example, this one is pluralistic.net/2025/06/24/pri… @pluralistic @tasket @Gargron

Ghassan Kanafani’s 'The Revolution of 1936-1939 in Palestine' examines the mass uprisings against Zionism and for independence from British colonialism. A new English translation of the book offer news insights into the pivotal text. mondoweiss.net/2025/05/intervi…

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Putin: Russia is making efforts to assist the Iranian people en.news-front.su/2025/06/23/pu…

So, the way we're going to solve climate change and save the Amazon is by auctioning off oil sites in the Amazon.

Also, we're having a big conference on saving the Amazon in the Amazon and we're building a huge road, an airport for private jets and some luxury hotels for some very specials VIPs. All in the Amazon! Wow hee!!

Brazil auctions off several Amazon oil sites despite environmentalists and Indigenous protests

msn.com/en-za/news/other/brazi…

in reply to anonymiss

The final blow will be that they send a nuclear bomb in a cargo container on a cargo ship to New York.


Interesting. Before the Manhattan Project during WWII, many thought that, probably, a critical mass would be so heavy that nuclear weapons would have to be delivered to ports in ships as you describe.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical…

Manhattan Project research suggested that a critical mass could actually be quite small. The Trinity test proved it. Nuclear weapons can be small enough to be delivered as bombs, torpedo warheads, or missile warheads.

Fortunately, only two nuclear weapons have been used to deliberately kill people, so far.

Lavrov Speaks at Primakov Forum: ‘World Order Is Shifting Fast’

Well......Apparently not fast enough for the people of #Gaza

youtube.com/watch?v=ATg08t0DC-…

in reply to Part_of You

L'Iran a confirmé avoir ciblé lundi une base militaire américaine au Qatar, en représailles aux bombardements dimanche de trois sites nucléaires iraniens, tout en précisant que cela ne posait "aucune menace" au Qatar.
"En réponse à l'action agressive et insolente des États-Unis contre les sites et installations nucléaires iraniens, les puissantes forces armées de la République islamique d'Iran ont frappé il y a quelques heures la base aérienne américaine d'Al-Udeid, au Qatar", a indiqué le Conseil de sécurité nationale iranien dans un communiqué, en ajoutant que le nombre de missiles utilisés "était le même que le nombre de bombes que les États-Unis avaient utilisées pour attaquer les installations nucléaires iraniennes".
"Cette action ne représente aucune menace pour notre pays ami et frère, le Qatar", a-t-il ajouté.


#Iran #qatar #usa #base #AlUdeid

in reply to Andre

The quickest path to explode the argument is:

We are told that "gender Identity" & "biological sex" are different things. We are told this by *experts*.

How does mutilating one's biological sex organs "affirm" one's "gender identity" when that pursuit is to mimic the opposite "biological sex"?

It's a fantasy pursuit & tricks on young minds.

I know this well. My niece was deceived at 18 years old and did the top surgery.

That is never to return w/o ARTIFICIAL implants to "reclaim"

in reply to Rose

@Java
Yes. Many doctors trained in western medicine are schooled to follow authority and always submit to higher authorities. It's protocol to appeal to authority, to greater *experts*

Being "schooled" is indoctrination. Not the same thing as being "educated". Being educated allows one to leave the reservation via critical thinking and challenging the status quo of what has simply been told to them.

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in reply to Jack-O

@JackONeill Good points. My family discusses it a lot. I find that people in my circle have gotten more vocal & learned how to say, "No" to certain medicines, esp statins, will bring up new developments, and aren't afraid to mention alternatives. The doctor of a friend of mine who refused the shot during Covid said to her, "You must be one of those MAGA people." 😆 She said, "I am, and proud of it." @Andre
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2/2

I propose:

Pseudomorphic Dysmorphilist: Describes those who use a combination of costume and medical interventions in an attempt to resolve dysphoria.

Pseudomorphic Autophilist: Descrises those who use a combination of costume and medical interventions for sexual/fetish purposes.

Pseudomorphic Dysautophilist: Describes those with a combination of the above.

I invite your comments!

language and localization


Simply use the tag #joborun to post here and have your text seen by the joborun community, otherwise it will be in the chaos of fediverse/diaspora

@alostfella@diasporasocial.net

Anyway, how the heck do you switch languages? I mean, I've tried, fcitx and uim. Both work fine on joborun, but I've some issues, uim is hard af to manage and idk how to get it running on the terminal, any terminal though I use st--and therefore vim. For fcitx, I have made it work. But both kill the system somehow if I press the F keys, as in F5, F6, or XK keys, as in to lower audio or whatever. Maybe you're not the guy I should be sending this to and I'm wasting your time, but idk, any recommendations?


In X the best place for keyboards and languages is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf
Overall system language settings is best set at /etc/locale.conf /etc/locale.gen then run locale-gen to pass the settings
On labwc ~/.config/labwc/environment

What you describe with the F keys is some program remapping key combinations for different power functions, but what you mean about "kill the system" is not very clear. Shutdown, reboot, loose graphical environment and exiting to console?
Runit only allows system going down with the 4 functions in /usr/bin/run/{poweroff,reboot,shutdown,halt} where it is best to only use /usr/bin/run/reboot and /usr/bin/run/reboot -f as root

Not all software are translated to all languages, so it is best to have a 2nd language you are semi-comfortable with as backup when your 1st choice doesn't work.

Also, to keep the installation image small all language and documentation is removed, you may have to reinstall a specific program to get manuals and language specific labels ..etc.

alostfella@diasporasocial.net

in reply to joborun linux

Oh, sorry, I'm kind of new to the fediverse/diaspora. What I meant is that, whenever I pressed one of those keys, the X environment would keep working, technically, but it would just freeze. So, I couldn't do anything, not even switch between switch to any other TTY. The cause: A deprecated command inside my .xinitrc file:

exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session

Used it as a temporary fix for some program to work, but it's deprecated to have such thing inside xinit.

Still, regarding /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf, it's a great solution for Latin languages such as Deutsch, Portuguese, etc. Though, it's, perhaps just easier to use "setxkbmap" on the run or making a script, but falls short when dealing with languages like Chinese, Japanese, and Korean. Extremely annoying, but it seems that the only viable way to make them work is using fcitx, ibus or whatever bloated IME :/. The best solution I've found so far, is getting 'uim', removing all the bloat and then compiling it using musl-gcc or tcc by yourself (possible, but a pain in the ass, plus it may bring a lot of compatibility issues with some programs).

in reply to joborun linux

I have used setxkbmap in menu of a wm to switch instead of shortcut/keybinds before, but I don\t know/understand why it wouldn't work with some valid system languages.

I made this kbd-tapper program that may help in identifying language/kbd settings in your X, it claims to work on wayland, gnome/kde is disabled but the --xkb "layouter " is still needed to be specified
See the manual here kbd-tapper.sourceforge.io/tapp…

I accept total ignorance of E.Asian language keyboards and difficulties, I assume they exist on english dominated computer environment. EN is not our native language either .. but is common and popular among unix/linux users so we have to live with it.

Symbols and symbolism should be seen as what they are, confusing crap coming from a subjective theistic culture of primitive people. We can assign visual and audio symbols to refer to a tree, different in every corner of the world, but the tree in front of us remains the same one tree whatever we call it. Keyboard keys and their combinations send a unique signal by opening closing circuits to a system that wouldn't understand any human language but only its own.

So if I say un, uno, one, ena, uahad, ein, 1 is still a symbol of the concept of 1

I think comrades Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Yong Un, would agree with me up to this point ... we can disagree on many others 😀

If we were in Hollywood land I would have said "god help you" and avoid further investigation ... luckily we are not.

% tapper --xkb --list-layouts

shows which and if defined lang/kbd sets are defined in X, and I believe come from that /etc/x11/...conf file you mention
They must be set right so you can set key combinations to switch between them
So if the above command doesn't show any or only one switching is not possible.

The US’s June heatwave is a dangerous start to summer and about to get hotter theguardian.com/us-news/2025/j… #Extremeweather #Climatecrisis #Extremeheat #Environment #USweather #USnews

In a typical and expected reaction, Israeli air force attacked and destroyed several Iranian missile launchers after #ceasefire "agreement".

Israel NEVER keeps any agreement EVER.

WILL SEE WHAT TRUMP HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

Video shared on #BlueSky
bsky.app/profile/faab64.bsky.s…

#Iran #Israel #IranUnderAttack #StopIsrael #PeaceNow #StopGenocide

#SanctionIsrael #BDS
#palestine #Israel #Politics #Genocide #CeasefireNow @palestine @israel @iran

That's always been precisely the point of our "representative" government: for the nation's elite (first the American plutocracy, now the globalist/Zionist international Cabal) to be able to rule over the people THROUGH their bought and paid for FLUNKIES, whom the citizens are generously allowed to "vote" for.

But it wouldn't be a very good marketing strategy to call it exactly what it really is--ELECTIVE OLIGARCHY--now would it?

"This is only the latest failure by the #BBC to provide accurate, impartial and independent reporting on Israel’s siege in #Gaza and the appalling humanitarian crisis it has created"

#GazaGenocide

thenational.scot/news/25260545…

Shoot at everything
Question à un million de shekalim : combien d'israéliens a tué #Tsahal le #7octobre #2023 ?
Israeli helicopter shot civilians at #October7 rave, police find

electronicintifada.net/blogs/a…

#Israel #genocide #gaza #Palestine

in reply to Proletarian Rage

If Iranians choose democratically a socialist atheist regime, the next day collectively the Western establishment will start to blame new leaders for being too anachronistic and not modern enough to cooperate with the rest of the world. The regime will respond "you block us from basic global things". The next day the whole West will start the fairytale "Iran's barbaric regime should not have nuclear energy" and they will bomb again.
It's not an issue of regime.

V. #Dedaj

Le Washington Post a diffusé le 23 juin un enregistrement audio d'agents israéliens menaçant de tuer les familles de responsables iraniens. « Nous allons vous frapper, vous, votre famille, vos enfants, tout le monde, avec la terreur. »
Le #Mossad aurait contacté les commandants des Gardiens de la Révolution iraniens, les avertissant de démissionner dans les 12 heures sous peine d'être tués, les exhortant à enregistrer des vidéos condamnant le gouvernement iranien.
En résumé :
Quelqu'un : « Israël tue des enfants »
Sioniste : « COMMENT OSEZ-VOUS SUGGÉRER UNE CHOSE PAREILLE ? »
Sioniste du Mossad : « Vous avez 12 heures pour enregistrer une vidéo dénonçant le régime iranien, sinon nous tuerons votre femme et enfants. »


#israel #israël #Iran

The NO FAKES act has changed, and it's worse

Link: eff.org/deeplinks/2025/06/no-f…
Discussion: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4…

What we learn from the editorial of Guardian? That the problem on the #middleeast is "Iran and its proxies" and US, UK, EU are not involved (not even a word about) on the war against all by #IsraelTerroristState. theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
in reply to Proletarian Rage

#US gave to #Israel 8.7$ billion on 26-9 to continue its aerial carpet bombing on #Gaza and #Lebanon and at 6-10 announces that will provide nearly $157 million in new humanitarian assistance “to support populations affected by conflict in Lebanon and the region. … The assistance will also support those fleeing to neighboring #Syria.”
So, in reality we have the funding of #IsraelTerroristState to eliminate and expel #Palestinian and #Lebanese population to give them as exchange some charity to stay out of their homes.
#uscomplicity #genocidejoe #middleEast #gazagenocide #Resistance #Palestine #FreePalestine #imperialism #classwar
@palestine

Let's face some facts for the conflict in Middle East.
Netanyahu was in US meeting government officials. A provocative action against civilians (that israeli entity doesn't pay attention to) came at Majdal Shams (denied by Hezbollah), occupied Golan Heights. todon.nl/@prolrage/11286337216…
Immediately israeli intelligence found and executed two top and respected commanders of the Axis of Resistance in two different countries, Iran and Syria. So, there was already a plan. Netanyahu had to get the green light from US (or an order to act as a proxy for the interests of US).
Immediately US started to deploy full force on the region. (US Patriots are already there) masto.nobigtech.es/@nachocarre…
So it's quite obvious that the Israeli entity is acting under US orders. Netanyahu visited US to take orders on how to set alight the whole region. #USImperialism provokes the global warfare, desperately, and #Israel just acts as its proxy.
#USpol #USA #IsraelTerroristState #IsraelWarCrimes #genocide #Lebanon #Iran #Palestine #FreePalestine #Imperialism #FuckWarmongers
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USA empire decided to hit Iran. Now gives orders to the proxy.
#usa #uspol #warcrimes #usimperialism #imperialism qudsnen.co/?p=48900

DANS LA SÉQUENCE sur X : "🃏«Saddam Hussein, 1980, estime qu'il y a une menace existentielle du fait de la révolution iranienne, il attaque l’Iran, 500 000 morts, 8 ans de guerre(..) Qui décide que c'est une menace existentielle, vous vous rendez compte dans lequel monde on vit.» Thierry Coville, BFM TV https://t.co/hO0Ks3pl4E" / X

imx.com/D_La_Sequence/status/193…


Tags: #dandelíon #géopolitique #guerre #impérialisme

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#Haaretz headline:

Trump demanded that Israel not attack Iran, and the planes were called to return

Trump proves he can leash his attack dog #Netanyahu in a heartbeat when #Iran's involved, but apparently his remote control breaks when it comes to #Gaza's genocide. [not] Funny how it works with client states these days.

@palestine @israel
#GazaGenocide

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