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I used Gentoo almost exlusively from like 2003 to maybe 2012 or 2013. I switched to Arch about then. But quite recently I made the switch back to Gentoo on my primary box and I'm happy I did.
Only thing I still need to do to really make it long-term sustainable for my particular use is to set up a build server on my network. My "primary box" is in the room where I sleep and I need it dark and quiet when I'm sleeping. Can't have MOBO color-shifting LEDs and fan sounds overnight. And I can't compile something like Chromium in less than the 15-to-16-ish hours I'm awake in a given day. (And I'd prefer to compile it myself rather than using a binary package.) Hence the need for a build server.
gentoo is less about compiling from source (I mean it can be about that too) and more about having a lot of choice and really nice tooling. it's in some ways a bunch more stable and declarative than arch. packaging your own stuff is even easier and you can just have most packages be stable while only running unstable version of the packages you explicitly care about 😀
So, I've been using Arch Linux ARM on Raspberry Pis for some "desktop systems" as well as for a janky-ass NAS solution, but that project is kindof dying. They go many months in a row sometimes without any package updates. It's wild. And when people ask WTF is going on and ~~offer~~ beg to be allowed to help in some way, the admins lock the thread.
So, I've been looking to switch my Raspberry Pi's to something that doesn't depend so much on some "project" out there to be able to continue to use.
The main Gentoo project fully supports ARM. And even if it didn't, it'd be a lot easier to use Gentoo without support than Arch.
Switching my main box (not a Raspberry Pi -- it's an x86_64 system) to Gentoo was basically for the purpose of trying out Gentoo again and evaluating whether I want to take the plunge and switch everything to Gentoo.
Aside from that, there's SystemD which is yucky. (Yes, I know about Artix, but when last I tried it, it didn't really feel "ready for prime time". It depends a lot on the main Arch repos.)
Plus, I do kindof like the idea of "more control over my system(s)". Configuring/compiling my own kernel (yes, you can do that on Arch, it's much less "in the spirit of" Arch) to make it as minimal as possible and disable everything I don't need. And of course USE flags are a plus if you want a light system.
Ah, Ok, yeah Arch on ARM is struggling at the moment
I have / had some Ras Pis on it, but they wrapped up .. Pi0? a while back, so had to look at Raspbian (or whatever it's called now)... I'd not considered Gentoo for them... hmmm
Running a couple of Pis with Gentoo myself right now. It works as well as anything, although unless you're very patient you'll want to set up a binary package host (or distcc or something) to take the load off the Pi's somewhat anemic processor.
I have a soft spot for Gentoo, even though I haven't used it in years. It was one of my first experiences with Linux, since it was installed in one of the computer labs in college. I just remember that the windows had this physics jiggle effect when you dragged them around. I was so surprised that Linux had a more "fun" aesthetic than Mac or Windows did.
The “fun” aspect was what drew me to BeOS when it was near its heyday. What that thing would do in comparison to Winbloze at the time and the user experience in general was astonishingly more pleasant.
I remember their simple web server called Diner I had a website hosted on an older machine running Diner in my lab and it was just always on and when my office got DSL I felt like a king having that site up and accessible from anywhere, knowing it was on a box in my office and running Diner on BeOS.
I tried to make this logo from scratch in Blender for a wallpaper and kinda couldn't get the shape right because the angle of the actual logo is a bit weird.
Gentoo is great. I used it for a few years 20 years ago and I still think the package manager is the best I've ever used. I wouldn't use Gentoo today, but I'm really glad I went through the install and maintenance process. It didn't make me a guru, but I did learn a thing or two about Linux.
I ran Gentoo back in the early aughts; it was hella better than Redhat, but it felt like I was constantly compiling stuff, and new installs and upgrades could sometimes take more than a day. I don't remember what I jumped to after Gentoo, but I've never considered it again because of the lack of prehbuilt binaries. It seemed bitcoinish to have thousands of people wasting CPU cycles compiling the same package when it could be compiled once and redistributed.
Where Gentoo is nice is in the build flags: there's really no way to get around compiling yourself if you want to exclude optional dependencies, and Gentoo had that in spades. I am just not sure how much that's actually used anymore, but having binaries gives you the best of both worlds.
Thanks for posting that; I may have to re-investigate Gentoo.
It sounds like a cool distro but I don't see any advantages compared to NixOS, aside from maybe the option to make it more minimal for constrained environments.
it's a lot less scuffed in some ways while still giving you a lot of control and a lot of tools for declarative system management. it's also waaay better documented. it's comfy.
Why does every one need to compare every distro to NixOS? We get it. It's neat. It's immutable. It's indestructible. But they are fundamentally different stuffs.
You can set it up to compile all your software yourself with the exact options you want, just like Gentoo. Not how most people use it, but still, NixOS can fulfill some of the same roles as Gentoo, they are very comparable.
I used Gentoo for ages.... it was the only distro I'd consider for my personal projects. Eventually, the amount of time it took to compile packages wore me out and I switched to fedora. Maybe I'm just old but watching gcc fly by for hours on end to compile X11 was neat but is not how I want to spend my Saturday anymore. Maybe I'll build out a VM for old times sake....
defeats the purpose? Also, like I mentioned, I used it ages ago....binary packages when I was using it weren't very common. I see they "went binary" a few years back... but then, why bother with Gentoo?
I'm in the same boat as you. Loved it for what it was on my old Pentium 2 (no internet). Learner a lot and had a blast. Not a daily driver now I have time constraints and binary packages lose what made it special. Happy on Arch for personal stuff and Debian for mission critical stuff.
I dunno. I have a fair number of packages installed from AUR, and the Rust ones take forever to compile. CPUs may have gotten faster, but some popular languages have gotten much slower to compile.
The most popular Linux distros are binary based. Gentoo upgrades build all new software from source. If you don't want long install times, don't usr one of these compile-everything-from-source distros.
There's no option to install Windows from source, and it doesn't really come with anything more than the OS, anyway, so it's apples yto oranges. Windows might not even be compilable on consumer hardware.
@ChristiJunior In Europe it's illegal to criticize either. But you are allowed to create political parties that argue you should be able to criticize Islam so long as you also suck off Jews, though said parties are never actually allowed to win.
For Linux users, who also use VLC Media Player with DVD's, this thing was driving me nuts for two years... some DVD extras getting the last 2-3 second chopped off.
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It's 33°c here in London today - that's 91°f! While this may seem unremarkable to those who are used to a hotter climate, Brits are suffering thanks to a lack of air conditioning and houses built to retain heat. With that in mind, here are some simple tips for staying cool in the heat.
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I shall label today “Clumsy Monday.” Because that's what it's been in the Roscoe-verse.
I shall label today “Clumsy Monday.” Because that's what it's been in the Roscoe-verse.
From stumbling around this joint, barely avoiding falling, throughout the day. To spilling a full cup of coffee on my work desk. I've still managed to get the day's main chores taken care of. And at least I've managed to not break anything... yet.
When days like this come my way, past performance has shown that my best course of action is to lay low, take it easy, and hope for a better day tomorrow. So that's been my plan.
Good idea, Roscoe. I'm sorry you're suffering with that. I've had success using certain alternatives with mine. It takes awhile, and a little expensive, but I also spend money on things I don't need. I'm still testing things, too.
“Here, United States, have some blood! You like shedding it all over the world so much! There you go! How about some blood?”
Shouted Mike Ferner of Veterans For Peace as he threw red paint at the U.S. mission to the United Nations in protest.
🚨 BREAKING: White House Looking to EXCLUDE Illegal Aliens from U.S. Census 🚨
According to Stephen Miller, the Trump administration is actively working on ways to REMOVE illegal immigrants from being counted in the U.S. Census totals.
📉 That means states like California could LOSE multiple House seats — since congressional representation is based on total population.
💥 NO MORE inflated power from illegal residents.
✅ American citizens should decide American elections. ✅ House seats should reflect LEGAL residents only.
Netanyahu has been robbed of his main tool. A hush was tossed into Tehran's skies, and an ace was thrown onto the table: his strongest card, the threat of Armageddon in which thousands of Iranian missiles will destroy Israel
Beef chuck, cooked for four hours in the sous vide, now tender, but still pink inside. That's impossible to do any other way. It's seasoned with salt, pepper, cumin, coriander, clove, Peppercave rub, paprika, balsamic vinegar, and butter.
I have the same phone, Firefox, and the indigo iMac. Not sure if mine still works either, the last time I actually used it was 2012 I think. Hopefully I'll be moving again soon and then I'll be able to get my stuff out of storage.
@relentless_eduardo Only went outside twice. First week I struggled against timezone sickness then I worked on CAD until my friend saw I had trauma/autism issues and told me I have to go back in France to get help.
What if you electroplated a plastic 3D print, and then melted off the plastic to leave just the metal behind? [HEN3DRIK] has been experimenting , with some impressive results.
For this work, [HEN3DRIK] prints objects in a special PVB “casting filament” which has some useful properties. It can be smoothed with isopropanol, and it’s also intended to be burnt off when used in casting processes. Once the prints come off the printer, [HEN3DRIK] runs a vapor polishing process to improve the surface finish, and then coats the print with copper paint to make the plastic conductive on the surface. From there, the parts are electroplated with copper to create a shiny metallic surface approximately 240 micrometers thick. The final step was to blowtorch out the casting filament to leave behind just a metal shell. The only problem is that all the fire tends to leave an ugly oxide layer on the copper parts, so there’s some finishing work to be done to get them looking shiny again.
We’ve featured [HEN3DRIK]’s work before, particularly involving his creation of electroplated 3D prints with mirror finishes. That might be a great place to start your research if you’re interested in this new work. Video after the break.
I could see this process being useful for jewelry making. Traditionally, a custom pendant will be made in wax (these days that part can be 3D printed), put in plaster, burned out and then the cast metal is poured in. With this process, you could make your own re-usable metal molds.
In a wide-ranging interview on the future and global existential risks, billionaire technology investor Peter Thiel raised alarms not only about familiar threats like nuclear war, climate change, and artificial intelligence but also about what he sees as a more insidious danger: the rise of a one-world totalitarian state. Speaking to the New York Times’ Ross Douthat, Thiel argued that the default political response to global crises—centralized, supranational governance—could plunge humanity into authoritarianism.
Thiel, co-founder of PayPal and Palantir, shared his worries using examples from dystopian sci-fi stories. “There’s a risk of nuclear war, environmental disaster, bioweapons, and certain types of risks with AI,” Thiel explained to Douthat, suggesting that the push for global governance as a solution to these threats could culminate in a “bad singularity” - a one-world state that stifles freedom under the guise of safety.
Lisa Tate is a sixth-generation farmer in Ventura County, California, an area that produces billions of dollars worth of fruit and vegetables each year, much of it hand-picked by immigrants in the U.S. illegally.
@Nonilex@masto.ai Farmers across the Country overwhelmingly voted for Trump. It sucks that she sold out herself and her country because she didn't like a half-Black/ half-Indian woman.
Lisa Tate is a sixth-generation farmer in Ventura County, California, an area that produces billions of dollars worth of fruit and vegetables each year, much of it hand-picked by immigrants in the U.S. illegally.
By Josh Stylman June 28, 2025 Psychology, Technology, Vaccines 16 minute read But he’s not alone. We’ve created a culture where wrongthink is policed so aggressively that even successful, powerful people whisper their doubts like they’re confessing crimes. brownstone.org/articles/the-co… I was on a hike last year with a very prominent tech VC. He was telling me about his son’s football team—how their practices kept getting disrupted because their usual field on Randall’s Island was now being used to house migrants. He leaned in, almost whispering: “You know, I’m a liberal, but maybe the people complaining about immigration have a point.” Here’s a guy who invests mountains of money into companies that shape the world we live in, and he’s afraid to voice a mild concern about policy in broad daylight. Afraid of his own thoughts.
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I have a job interview set up in a couple of days. Need prayers for guidance, if this is what God wants me to do for work I'll do it but if it isn't I don't want them to offer me the position.
Apple Inc. is considering using artificial intelligence technology from Anthropic PBC or OpenAI to power a new version of Siri, sidelining its own in-house m...
Fuxored my computer now I have to post from my phone. Fan has been making ugly noises for several months. Turns out the bearing is shot. Pulled too hard on these wires they came out of the connector. Now which way around do they go? Time to tweeze it all back together now. And a picture of the radio. Gotta have radios.
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This summer, 1,500 Israeli soldiers will attend Jewish summer camps across North America. They will act as ambassadors for Israel as it carries out ethnic cleansing across Palestine. The Jewish community must reject this normalization of genocide.
The difference is that Musk doesn’t depend on Trump to remain relevant (or solvent). All those others absolutely do: They were nothing before Trump, and nothing without him.
I didn't choose the bronchiectasis life. The bronchiectasis life chose me. Bronchiectasis is an incurable chronic progressive lung disease characterized by flaccid, sagging airways that fail to clear mucus.
Yeah, and prison officials are also sometimes found civilly or criminally liable for those deaths - which is frankly better than those officials deserve.
Not any more. SCOTUS just ruled today that Federal inmates can't sue their jailers when their civil rights are violated or when they get the ever loving shit kicked out of them and beaten to a pulp.
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Unknown parent • • •TootSweet
in reply to Sivecano • • •Me too!
I used Gentoo almost exlusively from like 2003 to maybe 2012 or 2013. I switched to Arch about then. But quite recently I made the switch back to Gentoo on my primary box and I'm happy I did.
Only thing I still need to do to really make it long-term sustainable for my particular use is to set up a build server on my network. My "primary box" is in the room where I sleep and I need it dark and quiet when I'm sleeping. Can't have MOBO color-shifting LEDs and fan sounds overnight. And I can't compile something like Chromium in less than the 15-to-16-ish hours I'm awake in a given day. (And I'd prefer to compile it myself rather than using a binary package.) Hence the need for a build server.
SayCyberOnceMore
in reply to TootSweet • • •Interested in why you went back to Gentoo after Arch.
I use Arch (btw) and tried Gentoo back in the day, but it's always in the back of my mind that compiling source could be "better"...?
Sivecano
in reply to SayCyberOnceMore • • •and more about having a lot of choice and really nice tooling.
it's in some ways a bunch more stable and declarative than arch.
packaging your own stuff is even easier and you can just have most packages be stable while only running unstable version of the packages you explicitly care about 😀
TootSweet
in reply to SayCyberOnceMore • • •So, I've been using Arch Linux ARM on Raspberry Pis for some "desktop systems" as well as for a janky-ass NAS solution, but that project is kindof dying. They go many months in a row sometimes without any package updates. It's wild. And when people ask WTF is going on and ~~offer~~ beg to be allowed to help in some way, the admins lock the thread.
So, I've been looking to switch my Raspberry Pi's to something that doesn't depend so much on some "project" out there to be able to continue to use.
The main Gentoo project fully supports ARM. And even if it didn't, it'd be a lot easier to use Gentoo without support than Arch.
Switching my main box (not a Raspberry Pi -- it's an x86_64 system) to Gentoo was basically for the purpose of trying out Gentoo again and evaluating whether I want to take the plunge and switch everything to Gentoo.
Aside from that, there's SystemD which is yucky. (Yes, I know about Artix, but when last I tried it, it didn't really feel "ready for prime time". It depends a lot on the main Arch repos.)
Plus, I do kindof like the idea of "more control over my system(s)". Configuring/compiling my own kernel (yes, you can do that on Arch, it's much less "in the spirit of" Arch) to make it as minimal as possible and disable everything I don't need. And of course USE flags are a plus if you want a light system.
Anyway, those are my main reasons.
Arch Linux ARM
archlinuxarm.orgSayCyberOnceMore
in reply to TootSweet • • •Ah, Ok, yeah Arch on ARM is struggling at the moment
I have / had some Ras Pis on it, but they wrapped up .. Pi0? a while back, so had to look at Raspbian (or whatever it's called now)... I'd not considered Gentoo for them... hmmm
Maybe I'll check that out
Thanks
nyan
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in reply to tuckerm • • •The “fun” aspect was what drew me to BeOS when it was near its heyday. What that thing would do in comparison to Winbloze at the time and the user experience in general was astonishingly more pleasant.
I remember their simple web server called Diner I had a website hosted on an older machine running Diner in my lab and it was just always on and when my office got DSL I felt like a king having that site up and accessible from anywhere, knowing it was on a box in my office and running Diner on BeOS.
deathmetal27
in reply to Sivecano • • •I tried to make this logo from scratch in Blender for a wallpaper and kinda couldn't get the shape right because the angle of the actual logo is a bit weird.
pling.com/p/1788876
Good to know that I can use this official model.
Gentoo glass wallpaper
www.pling.comSivecano
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Unknown parent • • •Gentoo goes Binary! – Gentoo Linux
www.gentoo.org𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍
in reply to MyNameIsRichard • • •That would make a huge difference.
I ran Gentoo back in the early aughts; it was hella better than Redhat, but it felt like I was constantly compiling stuff, and new installs and upgrades could sometimes take more than a day. I don't remember what I jumped to after Gentoo, but I've never considered it again because of the lack of prehbuilt binaries. It seemed bitcoinish to have thousands of people wasting CPU cycles compiling the same package when it could be compiled once and redistributed.
Where Gentoo is nice is in the build flags: there's really no way to get around compiling yourself if you want to exclude optional dependencies, and Gentoo had that in spades. I am just not sure how much that's actually used anymore, but having binaries gives you the best of both worlds.
Thanks for posting that; I may have to re-investigate Gentoo.
grinka
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in reply to ter_maxima • • •it's also waaay better documented.
it's comfy.
kittenroar
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in reply to 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍 • • •For big packages like browsers and office suites, not all packages.
Still a win if you're so inclined. I prefer to compile 100%.
maxwells_daemon
in reply to 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍 • • •Laughs in Windows...
Sivecano
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in reply to Sivecano • • •𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍
in reply to maxwells_daemon • • •The most popular Linux distros are binary based. Gentoo upgrades build all new software from source. If you don't want long install times, don't usr one of these compile-everything-from-source distros.
There's no option to install Windows from source, and it doesn't really come with anything more than the OS, anyway, so it's apples yto oranges. Windows might not even be compilable on consumer hardware.
Reygle
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in reply to 0x0 • • •Gentoo goes Binary! – Gentoo Linux
www.gentoo.orgSivecano
in reply to 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍 • • •Why is the rust compiler so terrible?
Sivecano
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in reply to zagaberoo • • •Well... kinda takes the edge off... i'll stick to compiling.