Musk's latest Grok chatbot searches for billionaire mogul's views before answering questions
https://apnews.com/article/grok-4-elon-musk-xai-colossus-14d575fb490c2b679ed3111a1c83f857?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
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in reply to Philamand • • •Wow, what the heck happened? Do we know the dev's lemmy username for any clues?
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in reply to partial_accumen • • •Shutting Down on July 31. This fediverse experiment was a failure.
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in reply to Philamand • • •Thanks for that context.
The specific "burned out" is a common killer among folks that try this: community management
"Well, two years in, and I cannot say this place is any better, just differently bad if not worse. Too many people here seem to think that because it's not "corpo social media" that anything goes, and boy do some people really run with that."
I can't say I blame them. People can be horrible. Managing a community also means managing the worst of people. I had a former employer that did community management of a dating site. The level of mental trauma the front line workers endured was more than I could imagine. This is also why I completely understand instance admins that follow an aggressive blocking/banning approach. Beehaw put up tall walls and defederated aplenty. Blahaj.zone actively bans based upon user activity that is even on other unrelated instances. I can't fault either of these approaches because the alternative is dealing with the worst users en masse.
I hope that instance owner/manager gets some of that much deserved rest.
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in reply to Philamand • • •I mean its completely fair to say that they don't want to deal with it, but also what did they expect?
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in reply to unexposedhazard • • •Can I ask you what the worst examples of community management looks like? As in, what do you believe would be the worst part of the job?
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partial_accumen
in reply to unexposedhazard • • •Are there any moderation tool projects going on right now one could throw a few bucks at to support it?
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unexposedhazard
in reply to partial_accumen • • •This one is a very basic CSAM scanner that goes through lemmy image storage and just deletes stuff it deems bad. github.com/db0/fedi-safety I havent tried it tho, so i cant attest to its quality.
Im sure there are tools made for mastodon too, since it has a lot more users.
GitHub - db0/fedi-safety: A script that goes through a lemmy images in storage and tries to prevent illegal or unethical content
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in reply to unexposedhazard • • •I managed a forum for a decade, and seen everything except CSAM. You just delete it.
It was on a .tk domain and it got suspended for content violations anyway
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in reply to brot • • •If you don’t want to be called a genocide lover, then don’t defend a genocide and then double down on it.
Easy.
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in reply to brot • • •Oh, I totally read that as you talking from experience 😀
Or do you mod somewhere else?
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in reply to hisao • • •There are multiple reasons: If you want to fund your instance by donations, you need to be able to act under your real name. You might get away with a totally anonymous instance which you are funding via cryptodonations and which you are hosting at a provider who really does not care about KYC, but that is also illegal in many jurisdictions. There is totally a case for a lemmy instance admin to be known publically, to be able to interact with the community in person, to be able to go to meetups or to be able to give talks at conventions.
And if you are not living in some country with totally crazy politics, most local laws are totally fine. Do not post hardcore pornography. Do not spread hatred or calls for murder and hate speach. Keep the piracy a little bit less obvious. Don't allow hardcore pornography and have a solid process to keep child porn from your platform. That might be different if you're living in Iran, Saudi-Arabia or Afghanistan, but in a western country it is totally ok to be in line with local laws.
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in reply to Sal • • •Considering how few references there were in the post, and your projection onto it. I think you may be part of the group he's talking about that is causing him to close up shop. Its just my speculation though. If I'm right, how does that make you feel? Are you happy he's closing up the instance and leaving the Fediverse or are you sad that a heavy contributor to the Fediverse is leaving?
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in reply to partial_accumen • • •He's explicitly talking about detracting people who are "violent" and call him a "bootlicker" for "deescalating". It seems like it's moderator speak for "people are saying politicians/billionaires should die and that personally offends me". It's enlightened centrism. People came to Lemmy explicitily because Reddit bans you for disliking billionaires now.
Like, the entire concept of the Fediverse is anarchist. It's a collection of decentralized servers who can connect to each other but have their own rules. Someone going to develop for the LITERAL ANARCHIST SOCIAL MEDIA STRUCTURE and then getting surprised that everyone on it is anti-capitalist and anti-billionaire is the epitome of arrogance and lack of self-awareness.
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in reply to Sal • • •You're making authoritative claims to what the Fediverse is, who the people posting here are, and what their collectives beliefs and goals are. The Fediverse certainly isn't a monolith that you can do that to. Hate isn't an identity, nor is it the goal of the Fediverse. I think this part of the original closure notice may apply to your line of responses here.
"The worst part is that they're so caught up in their own self-righteousness that they can't see they're just as bad or worse than what they're spewing violent rhetoric at; trying to talk sense into anyone or de-escalate things is immediately met with "bootlicker", wild accusations, and/or worse."
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in reply to Sal • • •It's not that I like them or anything, but it's very irrelevant to my motivations to use fediverse.
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in reply to partial_accumen • • •Why use many words when few words do trick?
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in reply to partial_accumen • • •another lemming that doesn't want to perticipate in the far-left hate machine that lemmy has descended into
it's the same reason that user numbers on lemmy are slowly but surely declining
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in reply to partial_accumen • • •Yeah!
Fuck the demographic!
Still beats reddit nonsense.
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in reply to Philamand • • •GitHub - tesseract-ocr/tesseract: Tesseract Open Source OCR Engine (main repository)
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Unknown parent • • •I mean, if you wanted to be in the literal anarchist social media network structure and not see people hating billionaires/politicians/nazis, why did you come here in the first place?
The entire concept of the Fediverse is anarchist. Of course anti-capitalists at large would be on it, because the capitalists are all over every other social media network. And besides, Tumblr constantly tells billionaires/politicians to die despite being corporate-run social media and literally nothing comes out of it.
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in reply to Philamand • • •He’s not wrong lol. I can imagine how much worse it is as an admin. It’s unfortunate that Tesseract is going down with the ship. I remember I was among the first to provide feedback when he first posted it on lemmy.
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in reply to Philamand • • •There are terrible people everywhere and in particular everywhere online.
This is why I would never be bothered moderating and I am reluctant to release anything to the public of what I do for my own enjoyment. Cheers to moderators and people that post their art and comics and other stuff online.
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Unknown parent • • •Cris
in reply to Philamand • • •That's a real shame, and a huge loss.
Friendly reminder that the only way lemmy can be successful is if we create a culture that is enjoyable to be a part of. It sounds like his time here was not so positive, and that's deeply saddening.
I wish him the best with his future endeavors
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in reply to SorteKanin • • •Yeah, but doesn't it go both ways? How can people find out if their vision is aligned with yours unless you show what you have?
I mean, I share the feeling of not wanting to make any big announcement when it's not usable, but at least putting out a link to the repo and some roadmap would help others to see if they would be interested in helping you.
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in reply to rglullis • • •Cris
Unknown parent • • •That's incredibly important too! I think people would be hesitant to work for even decent donations if people are assholes, but you're 100% right. I guess it really comes down to appreciating the people around you
You should appreciate the humans that create this social space by being here and being social, and appreciate the people who create this social space by building the space itself
Thank you for making that point, people being paid makes a huge difference.
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