#Microsoft recently wrote that TPM 2.0 is a "a non-negotiable standard for the future of Windows." This pretty much confirms it won't back down on its hardware requirements for Windows 11, an OS that is seriously struggling to gain new users (~35% of Windows users) after 3 years.
When October 2025 rolls around and support for Windows 10 ends, this will force tens of millions of people to unnecessarily buy new hardware.
#Linux community: We have work to do.
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Seasons of Jason π
in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •More context:
It's estimated that a staggering 240 million PCs currently running Windows 10 aren't "capable" of upgrading to Windows 11.
As you know, those PCs can easily run any flavor of #Linux. It's a massive opportunity to get people away from Windows (and its increasing invasion of privacy), AND prevent literal tons of e-waste.
Seasons of Jason π
in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •Every word of this article still hits home.
We need a Desktop Linux Alliance.
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2 Crucial Things Desktop Linux Must Do To Find A Larger Audience
Jason Evangelho (Forbes)Seasons of Jason π
in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •Food for thought: In 2019, the Chinese Linux distribution "Deepin" released a series of short, polished trailers showing off its new features. A professional agency probably created them for less than $15,000.
Those trailers put Deepin on my radar. I wrote *ONLY TWO* articles about the distribution, and those 2 articles generated more than ONE MILLION views.
Desktop Linux needs professional marketing.
tom jennings
in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •I bought a generic-ish laptop from kfocus.org. they specialize in making Kubuntu seamless. IT IS. Even CUPS worked as is. A boot up config process as easy as a new macintosh.
Drivers and apps, just wonderfully done.
So it can be done and today. It's a lot of fractal details.
Fabian (Bocchi) π³οΈβπ
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in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •The hard part is the gentle sell. Nobody likes being pushed to a change that wasn't their idea in the first place. If we push them anywhere near as hard as Microsoft is, they'll go with Microsoft anyway.
I tried the hard sell on Linux to family members ten years ago, and it didn't go anywhere. A few years later, two family members switched on their own.
Joe Ressington
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in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •I told my mom and my little brother that they should at least give Linux a go before they consider buying new hardware.
My brother could possibly use the upgrade anyways, but my mom only uses the PC for browsing the web and occasionally edits a document or two using LibreOffice. Both of those activities are great under Linux, so yeah π
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in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •As a recent convert to...well, no, let me change that to recent adoptee of Linux (I've always been favourable to Linux even when I wasn't using it) I think technically we're pretty much there apart from the more specialized use-cases you invariably see haunting 'Move to Linux' threads. (But muh fotoshop/vijyo editing!)
Changing people's minds will be the nut to crack. There's also a lot of crusty stereotypes and old junk information out there that needs destroyed.
But an even bigger challenge than that will be readying some Linux spaces for the influx of more casual but more demanding users. Still pockets of Elitism out there that we'll need to either abrogate or funnel folks away from.
Gonna have a think myself for some solutions to this.
Ernie Smith
in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •Excellent point. I think one thing that could make this transition viable is commercial software. We have seen Steam/Proton prove this out for gaming, my question is, how do we get more productivity software to follow suit?
I donβt think commercial software replaces FOSS to be clear, but I think if your goal is to bring in businesses transitioning from Windows, itβs easier if it feels like they arenβt giving up as much.
Jo
in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •My laptop: Has TPM 2.0
Microsoft: Get Fucked no Win11 for you.
Me: Ahh, OpenSUSE on all my computers then.
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in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •Jonathan Frederickson
in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •This makes community outreach and education just that much more important. A lot of people can't afford to buy new computers for a software upgrade, and it'll generate tons of unnecessary e-waste if we don't repurpose those old devices
I've been thinking about running a class at my local makerspace on fixing old laptops and installing Linux on them. The area we're in is pretty low-income, so especially if we can find a good way to reach local folks I think it could be pretty good
jjesse
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in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •The biggest work the Linux community has to do is not be condescending to Windows *Average End-Users* who WANT to get away from Gates-Of_Hell but find every tentative enquiry towards Linux and the various different types met with sneering, derogatory or just plain hostile responses.
This isn't all of the Linux community, but it is FAR TOO MANY, and they're more vocal than those encouraging people away from Windoesn't with offers of support and actual help.
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in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •Kaze
in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •I feel like the discourse around Linux vs Windows has always been "Windows bad, you dumb for using it". Clearly this helps no one. Familiarity is comfortable, maybe we can spin it in a way that acknowledges the good times they had on windows, and Linux is, while not being Windows, can be a great tool too.
I'm not a writer, but I feel compelled to help. What can we do as a community
Phil35
in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •no no, migration to linux π bye windows
#leavewindows #linux
Robert "Szkodnix"
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in reply to Seasons of Jason π • • •there, I fixed it for you :)
In all seriousness, I think we need to just tweak our messaging a little bit around that event. Instead of saying that Microsoft is forcing people to buy new hardware, let's say that they're forcing people to move to Linux. Because this is the easiest and most ethical path, and also the cheapest, which (gestures "in this economy?") matters for a lot of people.
Nicolas
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