We were contacted by a journalist at Le Parisien newspaper with this prompt:
> I am preparing an article on the use of your secure personal data phone solution by drug traffickers and other criminals. Have you ever been contacted by the police?
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GrapheneOS
in reply to GrapheneOS • • •> Are you aware that some of your clients might be criminals? And how does the company manage this issue?
Absolutely no further details were provided about what was being claimed, who was making it or the basis for those being made about it. We could only provide a very generic response to this.
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in reply to GrapheneOS • • •There's a reason they're going after a legitimate privacy and security project developed outside of their jurisdiction rather than 2 companies based in France within their reach profiting from selling 'privacy' products.
discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134β¦
Here's that article:
archive.is/AhMsj
Devices lacking standard privacy/security patches and protections aren't private - GrapheneOS Discussion Forum
GrapheneOS Discussion ForumNiavy
in reply to GrapheneOS • • •Okay, you're a stronger OS than the other Android-based ones, particularly regarding privacy and degoogling, but you often despise other projects despite their efforts and the alternative these offer.
I acknowledge your strong efforts but I don't like at all your "We are the one white angel, other projects don't reach our purity".
GrapheneOS
in reply to Niavy • • •Niavy
in reply to GrapheneOS • • •These are not as bad alternatives as you present them. OK, these are "weaker" than your ROM, but these also are better choices than stock ROMs.
GrapheneOS
in reply to Niavy • • •LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ
in reply to GrapheneOS • • •@niavy don't answer to him, it's a troll, or one of those who talk big while not understanding how hardware security work and think software can do anything.
Surly one of those that think that a software update to AI can create skynet....
Niavy
in reply to LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ • • •No, not at all. I hate LLM AI.
@GrapheneOS
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in reply to Niavy • • •Niavy
in reply to LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ • • •Huh?
@GrapheneOS
Breizh
in reply to LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ • • •Niavy
in reply to Breizh • • •You know me. They don't π
@GrapheneOS @lexinova
LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ
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in reply to LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ • • •LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ
in reply to Breizh • • •@breizh @niavy don't realising it is not an excuse even more when said like he said it.
When you are not sure you add thing like "correct me if i'm wrong but".
here it was not a question but an affirmation
Niavy
in reply to LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ • • •OK so pointing out a superior "we're better" assertion feeling is a false claim ?
Saying while other ROMs may be worse than Graphene, these can be better than stock is a false claim ?
Whoa.
@breizh @GrapheneOS
Breizh
in reply to Niavy • • •Niavy
in reply to Breizh • • •Now I really got the point. Thanks.
@GrapheneOS @lexinova
Breizh
in reply to LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ • • •Youβre talking about the part he said "You may be talking about GrapheneOS scams ?" I guess?
The question was here. Okay, after itβs an affirmation but itβs more like a formulation error.
And the response is, no, Graphene didnβt talk about the scams, but they were really talking about Lineage and their forks.
LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ
in reply to Breizh • • •@breizh @niavy no it's not, stop trying to defend false claim, and lie.
And if you continue all you will win is being blocked by them
Niavy
in reply to LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ • • •Me? No I won't.
@breizh @GrapheneOS
Breizh
in reply to LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ • • •LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ
in reply to Breizh • • •@breizh @niavy i don't care to convince him, he lie and make false fact ... if he see it or not is not my problem.
He will simply be banned if HE don't change how he talk.
It's not US we need to change how the langage work, but him to follow language rules
Breizh
in reply to LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ • • •LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ
in reply to Breizh • • •Breizh
in reply to LΞX/NΓVΞ πͺπΊ • • •(I know Iβm blocked, but you realize that you just reported me to myself since Iβm the only one on this instance lol)
And to @GrapheneOS, sorry for all the noise.
Niavy
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in reply to GrapheneOS • • •Sensitive content
Edanomel "sammy was right" Ybrik
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in reply to GrapheneOS • • •' your secure personal data phone solution by drug traffickers and other criminals'
.. And intelligence agencies, smart journalists, human rights activists.. People caring about privacy..
All that just means it works.
Really fine.
Fazal Majid
in reply to GrapheneOS • • •johnfocker
in reply to GrapheneOS • • •IIRC Le Parisien is owned by Bernard Arnault
No wonder they frame everything in far right ideology
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Unknown parent • • •I don't want to know who started it all, you will say it's them, they will say it's you. Le Parisien lies, is wrong, you're upset, I understand it, but you're unreasonably BLAHBLAHBLAHing.
@leeloo @libreovergratis @hypostase
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Unknown parent • • •@leeloo @libreovergratis @hypostase @niavy You couldn't be more wrong. You're attacking the actual privacy and security project with substance to support for-profit companies grifting in the space by selling extraordinarily insecure and non-private products with extensive false marketing. There's a reason France is going after GrapheneOS as part of a crackdown on encryption and secure devices but supporting those products...
Why don't you read discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134β¦ and the 3rd party sources?
Devices lacking standard privacy/security patches and protections aren't private - GrapheneOS Discussion Forum
GrapheneOS Discussion ForumLeeloo
Unknown parent • • •In this case the PR is saying "we don't have a good product".