New version of X.org X11, Xlibre fork gathers support
Xlibre fork lights a fire under long-dormant X.org development
Comment: X11 is very far from dead – no matter if some want it to beLiam Proven (The Register)
Comment: X11 is very far from dead – no matter if some want it to beLiam Proven (The Register)
Redjard
in reply to cm0002 • • •Hey, there is an entire wayland bad x11 good article hidden in the last 4/5ths of the article!
Anyway, the article seems to argue that "toxic elements within Xorg projects, moles from BigTech, are boycotting any substantial work on Xorg".
It seems to me that now that wayland has become the clear focus of development, most devs sinply want X11 to remain as a legacy element, not causing unnecessary issues elsewhere, just remaining on lts.
The train has sailed, wayland is the norm and everyone is working on implementing the last leftovers the article is parading in its weird latter half, rather than through much greater efforts achieving worse results in patching up X11.
They should have forked X 10 years ago, when people were still interested in improving it.
It being left behind is a logical and fully adequate explanation, arguing eee makes little sense when wayland is clearly a simpler protocol. If you wanted to harm linux or foss, and your plan was the transition to wayland and freezing of X11 development, I would call you stupid.
I don't see why this fork, and this article, have to get conspiritorial about something this easily explained.
Now that we have the conspiracy crap addressed: wayland defense time
My fancy new monitor I got in '22 doesn't work on X11. I'd have to replace my other monitors with matching new ones for a few grand, or keep watching videos and all else at 15fps, getting a headache. If you wanna keep your crt, why not keep an ancient X11, why this fork?
X11 doesn't support normal modern hardware, my monitor wasn't even special, it's just higher fps than my other monitors and 4k.
The window pos remembering api (name made up by me, I forgot the real one) has been finalized, and will be in this or the next KDE version, etc.. The wayland people are fixing the criticism faster than the critics can shorten their list of remaining issues.
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uhhhh... ok that's all the wayland criticism, 'cause surprise, the last 2/5ths of the article are actually a rant about ... gnome? I think?
Something about no more shortcut support or how removing title bars is bad and the gnome disk manager has bad ui.
Idk my shortcuts are better than ever and my title bars were still there last time I checked.
But maybe this "big no-accessibility" is why absolutely no tiling dwms have ever been seen for wayland ever. If you switch to wayland you will have to tile by mouse exclusively, you heard it here first!
Aatube
in reply to Redjard • • •hyprland? dwl?
Redjard
in reply to Aatube • • •Not sure what you mean to ask there, but I gotta say hyprland would make a sick name for a tiling dwm.
Aatube
in reply to Redjard • • •Hyprland and dwl are actual, existing tiling dwms for Wayland.
i wonder what you thought "dwl" stood for lol
Nanook
in reply to cm0002 • •