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"Willfully dismissing the work of Dr. Edward Dowdye while continuing to believe in curved space and gravitational lensing... is akin to Flat Earthers dismissing Geodesy.

People who believe Relativity where light follows the curvature of space around a dense body also believe space is flat in between those dense bodies.
I call those people Flat Spacers.

Earth is not flat and neither is space.
Space is not a "thing" that curves.
This is a logical fallacy of reification. Trying to apply physical attributes to an abstract idea." (Jason Verbelly)

Synopsis
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Details on Emission Theory:
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Real Math and Physics:
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Work of Dr. Edward Dowdye
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Significant Findings (8 Pages)
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Grav Lensing fail 1:
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Grav Lensing Fail 2:
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#ElectricUniverse #FlatSpacers #EU #Relativity #Gravity #Einstein #Space

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in reply to Canek

Trying to apply physical attributes to an abstract idea

The good physicist never does that, a theory is just telling: "lots of things work as if.."

Discussing about the concrete existence of physics concepts is out of physics, it's about metaphysics.

So the good physicist does not know what space is, he just knows it seems to follow some rules, and some approximated rules are encapsulated in a picture, here space time bending. The "real" description is anyway mathematical, no natural language or sketch demonstration will ever describe the theory faithfully.

in reply to Canek

well there are far more than one alternative theory to the standard model, and far more than one scientist that thinks he has disproved einstein, happens litteraly every day. And I'm not saying it's bullshit, I'm saying it"s part of a classical functioning in science. Einstein had to wait for a solar eclipse for being believed, Mr Arp will have to wait too.
in reply to Canek

I hear what you say, but mathematicians are not guilty : they just don't care about physics, it's too dirty for them! too much approximations and stuff, they like the clean world of abstraction so much.
Well some are doing physics, but not so much, and it's rather the physicist that went more and more mathematical. Einstein itself said he did not understand his general relativity once formalized by mathematicians.
I have another quote for you, from a french physicist : theoretical physics is maths without rigor, and physics without experiment
So here you may meet several profiles too among scientists, but there is definitely a bad trend of following mathematical theory and building on it by mere fashion effect. It's not black and white, everything is interesting and it has always be like this, but let's say the spirit of our times (that I don't like very much) is unfortunately also influencing the way institutionnal science works.
in reply to Canek

bah alors faut se calmer misha, si je dis que la réparation de tuyau relève de la plomberie et pas de la menuiserie, tu réagirais pareil ?
PAsque je tiens à mettre en garde les gens : ne laissez jamais un menuisier réparer votre tuyau, ne laisser pas un soit disant physicien vous expliquer le réel, pasque oui c'est ce que j'essaie d'expliquer : le bon physicien fait la différence entre la théorie et le réel, le réel n'est pas son objectif, il n'a pas été formé pour ça, sa discipline n'existe pas pour ça. Elle existe pour pondre des modèles "tout se passe comme si". La métaphysique c'est autre chose, c'est complémentaire, ça fait pas les mêmes trucs, ça suit pas les mêmes méthodes ni les mêmes objectifs.
Donc le physicien qui t'explique la réalité est un escroc à mon sens, ou au moins un gars qui n'a pas compris les limites de sa discipline.

Et tu peux pas hisser cette chose la science, au rang d’institution, enfin moi je peux pas!


lol comme si il était question de pouvoir: je fais avec ce que j'ai mon cher, si t'as un plan pour mettre en place une recherche anarchiste partout dans le monde je suis preneur.

shit I should've switched to english, sry folks I'm too lazy to translate, deepL is your friend!

in reply to Canek

to get back to the post, the problem is it's attacking a physical theory for what it doesn't try to do : describe what really exists in absolute.
That mistake is common in science critics group I find : you want something from science that it can not give you, except for some scammers that uses your faith to make you think physics could describe reality without any ambiguity.