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@mttaggart ok, that's it. Inside my computer now there are two wolves and no foxes...
Firefox now has Terms of Use! This'll go over like a lead balloon.
You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet. When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.
mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/…
Update: See below in the thread for their clarification.
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Taggart
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in reply to Taggart • • •This clause explicitly separates the information they claim license over from the data collected in the Privacy Notice. This clause is more expansive—"information uploaded through Firefox" is basically anything in a HTTP request or a websocket.
mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/fire…
Firefox Privacy Notice
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newsweek.com/gops-war-abortion…
"Your rights don't exist" is Firefox's new Terms of Use.
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theregister.com/2025/02/25/chi…
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Tech authoritarianism relies on voyeuristic invasions of voter's privacy for profit & control.
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Xi know what you did last summer: China was all up in Republicans' email, says book
Jessica Lyons (The Register)Ryan Lounsbury
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in reply to Taggart • • •I guess it is time to throw some money at @servo.
#Mozilla #enshitification
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in reply to Taggart • • •Ditch Firefox, use #Librewolf or #Floorp
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in reply to Taggart • • •So if I obtain a single use license image from Getty etc and upload that image to my website using Firefox; does that image becomes royalty free property of Firefox?
I'm sure the original rights holder will be pleased.
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in reply to Taggart • • •I want to believe this is just being misintrepted somehow.... but I keep saying that each time Firefox does something.....
Anyways, not regretting switching from Firefox to @zenbrowser (also firefox based)
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in reply to Taggart • • •Welp, off to something else. Gonna have to check out Vivaldi. Thanks for that @mttaggart, always appreciate a recommendation.
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in reply to Taggart • • •The part about gathering data “to prevent harmful, unauthorized or illegal activity”worries me even more…
mastodon.social/@sarahjamielew…
Sarah Jamie Lewis (@sarahjamielewis@mastodon.social)
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in reply to Taggart • • •OK e-mailed legal-notices@mozilla.com
(Note it is a lot more than this one clause where they expand their claimed right to spy on you, and i encourage your e-mails to reflect this where i did not. See Sarah Jamie Lewis' thread, social.coop/@sarahjamielewis@m… )
Anyway what i wrote, before i read that:
Firefox does not have any right to information i enter into the URL address bar or forms on websites
My feedback and suggestion here, absolutely you can use for free.
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in reply to Taggart • • •Reminds me of Chrome's "Enhanced ad privacy" in the way this seems to be a form of privacy washing.
Source: ghacks.net/2023/07/01/all-chro…
All Chrome users will see popups in the coming weeks: here is why - gHacks Tech News
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in reply to Taggart • • •how is this possible? anything i write, upload, input...is basically everything i do in a browser. this includes passwords, media, etc.
fuck ALL the way off, mozilla. now to find some browser that has decent extensions and isnt a right assbag.
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in reply to Taggart • • •"These Terms only apply to the Executable Code version of Firefox, not the Firefox source code."
From
mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/…
So if a Linux distro, like Debian, compiled the source code and put it on a server then the new terms do not apply to the compiled version?
If so then there is nothing to stop anyone from forking the code (eg Librewolf).
The new TOU sucks but there seems to be a workaround.
Firefox: About Your Rights
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in reply to Taggart • • •I actually read the tagline as this;
MOZILLA
Forget: About Your Rights
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in reply to Taggart • • •Here we go again. I've had enough with IE ages ago and moved to Chrome. Then to Firefox. Now I'm trying LibreWolf, a fork of Firefox hosted on Codeberg.
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in reply to Taggart • • •GDPR removal request sent, with the addition that this seems to violate the digital services act in a number of ways. Fun.
I mean, I'm not a lawyer... but @noybeu might want to look into this?
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in reply to Taggart • • •My credentials on websites. Everything I upload to the cloud. My browsing and search histories.
WTF?
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in reply to Taggart • • •You... do realize this is every single legal preamble ever right?
This exists in every service that involves processing information given to it, such as Bluesky and art websites. Without outlining it, and courts can darn sure be picky about your legalese, they legally wouldn't be able to use the information you give Firefox for basic function, which is exactly why this section exists and does not over-extend.
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in reply to Taggart • • •the clarification is in a blog post, that may not be legally binding. so in my eyes any clarification outside of the ToS is worthless.
If #Mozilla wants to offer AI services or collect and use their users data, this should be a separate opt-in ToS in my opinion, not the terms of the base application.
But TBH #Mozilla is doing too much dumb management decisions these days, so I'm considering to stop recommending it. (colorways, firing #rust and #servo teams, ads for temu and so on)
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in reply to Taggart • • •Time for more Opera in my life.