What desktop enviroment do you use and why?


So a few months back I asked about you guys os in c/asklemmy, so this time I wanna ask about your desktops you use on this same account.
(I use kde but plan to move to cinnamon I find kde buggy and gnome tracker3 randomly broke for no reason + themeing so yh idk if these happened to anybody)
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in reply to toastal

I love my Xmonad. I haven't customized it except for one thing for fullscreen windows. I have no widgets or toolbars or desktop icons or anything besides dmenu as a launcher and xterm for everything else. And I love it. However I have some subtle graphics issues like screen tearing when watching certain 4k content, hidpi scaling issues that I could never resolve for all applications and sometimes my GPU doesn't like my TV (which is my main monitor). These are likely the fault of nouveau, but I wonder if Wayland will fix them.

I really wish XMonad would support Wayland. I don't need it to, but gnome on wayland was just really really smooth. Maybe I can set up another window manager with the exact same key bindings on wayland, since like I said I don't customize it at all.

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huquad

I tried it and mostly love it. It's not quite polished enough yet for me and I have two main complaints. First, half of my keyboard shortcuts don't work anymore, and I wasn't able to fix that last I tried. Second, it wouldn't let me lock my computer or suspend. Had to shutdown everytime. Other than that and random librecalc crashes, I'm excited to see where it is in the coming months. Really rooting for the pop team
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OhVenus_Baby

I'm definitely into cinnamon more than the other two. Thanks for the link. I was about to try the XFCE until I seen that. Glad I didn't waste my time. I've got decent hardware so not too concerned about the extra ram etc. I just with cinnamon has KDE customization without getting buggy once you pile on 10 different extensions.
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IceVAN

I started playing with linux (ubuntu and a macbook [I know, the worse combo possible]) around 2006 or so. I tried some linux distros before, but just for fun, never as a daily driver. I come from the times of DOS and even a little before that (amiga 500, commodore 64, spectrum...[I feel old]) .
After some time with ubuntu, I found out ubuntu was bloated and quite slow, so I gave debian a try and never came back after that. Among others, I tried crunch and bunsen and while I liked them, I got a few ideas from them and applied them to my vanilla debian installs. I usually install debian testing netinst and a script I made to install/customize packages/apps/etc. A debian install (testing netinst from usb pendrive) from 0, usually takes me about 15 min.

I've been testing out arch since I got a steamdeck as a replacement for my main PC a few weeks ago but I don't think it's gonna stick. I've got a vanilla arch install running but it's way too cumbersome to reinstall/maintain it. I have to say, arch feels lighter. I will probably take another look at it sometime.

Wayland is neeeeeaaaaar!. LabWC is the closest to openbox I've found. I just hope it is as snappy and stable as openbox is always been. The config is pretty similar and the way it works (as little as I've tried it) is also quite similar.

About eyecandy and so, I have to say KDE and Gnome looks better everytime I take a look at them, but I feel like I have to be waiting for them to complete the tasks I ask of them, they don't feel as "immediate" as openbox (KDE is getting there) and since I don't use a compositor, games always run as expected (I'm talking X11 only). I've read about KDE/xfce running great so many times, but I had microstutters in games and or less avg FPSs while gaming, and switching to openbox just fixed that. I found out that disabling compositing in xfce also fixed that... but in that case I'd just rather go the openbox way.
Openbox/lxde/lxqt can be pretty/ok/nice too:

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About the "desktop" concept, I just need a panel, a file manager and a terminal, all the applets KDE has feel redundant, slow and way too much windows>8-alike. I like windows 98 functionality better (do as I say, let me alone, don't pester me with notifications and applets and crap everywhere). For example, I have always hated the "safe remove drive" applet from windows/kde and so on. I just go to thunar, click on the eject icon close to the drive... and done.

Sorry for the long post, and of course this is my own experience, to each their own...etc. Just use what you like/works for you and mix it however you like (one of the best things linux has).

Excuse my english (not my mother language) and I'm quite sleep deprived.

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slowbyrne

It depends on what you would consider stable. I would install it alongside gnome for now and try it out. You can just leave it on your system getting updates while you use gnome and just pop in every once and a while. It's up to you if you want to enable cosmic-greeter and disable gdm for your login page, but if you want stability, just stick with gdm for now.
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I have gnome installed and setup as a backup, plus I use its greeter, but I am another who does not really want a full DE and instead using Sway as my WM day to day.

I have two 32"@4k monitors so normal manual floating window management just annoys me, I greatly prefer tiling window management to auto sort my windows for me. Its extremely rare that I need to full screen anything on monitors this large to fit everything I want in width wise so I want multiple apps per monitor.

If all of this is managed dynamically for me, and I am not manually sizing or overlapping stuff, all the better. Couple that with easy use of multiple workspaces for different tasks (I typically use three per monitor), rarely do I have a need to manually resize anything. I have it setup to open my common apps on the right workspace for me, and each workspace set to the right layout for that set of apps, so much less faffing.

My (40%) keyboard(s) run QMK and are setup to enable most of my common combos, such as switching workspace, moving apps around are never more than two keys. The more I can do without moving my hands from the keyboard, the better for me.

Final thing is that Sway is wayland and for me extremely stable.

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Used Mint with Cinnamon for a long time, but always wanted to try KDE after distrohopping a bit. Had it on when I switched to Arch, but didn't like how slow it felt on my old laptop so I tried LXQt and then XFCE. I wanted a modern lightweight environment with Wayland support, but I'll have to wait for it to be implemented. In the meantime, I riced my XFCE just how I like it, and I really like how complete and responsive it is.
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BCsven

Thats fair. If you ever go back then at cli typing tracker3 will give a list of commands.

Tracker3 status will give you what it is doing or if it is idle, and notes on files that are troublesome.

tracker3 reset with cetain flags will purge and rebuild
index.

You can also set filetypes and folders to index, but that is probably eaaier in dconf-editor settings, under org/freedesktop/tracker/mine/files

in reply to Mwas alt (prob)

Currently I am on KDE, but I am an xfce lover. I can't wait for the next xfce update and for Cosmic.

I am living KDE almost default. I have the impression that with too much customisation problems come.

Xfce is rock solid and rock solid after customisation too. It is truly amazing.

Gnome needs far too many extension for me to be usable. And so I avoid it.

Cinnamon is great too, but it's in the middle. If I don't want to use Wayland, at that point there is xfce.

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I'm currently using Cinnamon because I thought it would be better than Xfce. While I do think that Cinnamon looks better, there were some minor things that I preferred with Xfce. I want to try Mate and maybe some of the other DEs if I can find a good distro that has them but I may go back to Xfce the next time I install Linux Mint.
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in reply to vortexal

I'm not really that sort of user, so I have no idea. I use arch and XFCE but have toyed with Budgie and Cinnamon in the past as potential replacements for xfce, and while I liked them, they didn't... feel right.

Solus was the originator of Budgie, Manjaro used to have a community spin. I'm not sure who's responsible or pushing it these days, but it is similar in that it's a gnome3 based, traditional desktop with hardly any outside dependencies outside of itself.

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Long time i3 user, recently switched to Hyprland+Wayland. I just don't like mice, don't enjoy using them, and I find the snappiness and responsiveness of keyboard-centric workflows very fun and enjoyable.

I am a software developer, and I am very impatient when it comes to my tools: I like my feedback cycles and interactions to be as tight as possible. This limited study from 2015 showed that developers, on average, spend ~26% of their productive time on stuff that is not related to either code editing or comprehension, including 14% spent on UI interactions. Tiling window manager allows me to streamline most of these interactions through hotkey bindings and shell automation, >!so I prefer spending literal months polishing my dotfiles instead!<

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Xfce4.

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It's inexpensive on resources while leaving me nothing to really... need extra, I suppose. It's old so there's thousands of themes and ways to set it up, and it just feels like home. The speed of the animations and defaults to everything has a very stock Windows XP feel to the desktop despite it looking like nearly anything. The system doesn't get in the way of programs from other desktops or setups in mind and always steps aside.

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Lunar

  • I'm really not sure what they're planning for Wayland at the moment (if anything), but one of the plus sides is that it isn't too dependent on it's default window manager, and I was even able to run most parts of it via XWayland under Wayfire with only a handful of issues that probably wouldn't be too hard to resolve in the future (e.g. multiple desktops on kdesktop).
  • Initially, I suppose it was just to provide an option for people who weren't happy with KDE 4. These days, I'd consider the main benefits to be a nice way to have an old school UX for those who prefer that, and excellent performance on aging hardware. (In some ways the UX still outdoes KDE 5/6 IMO, such as TDE's version of Konqueror being a much more capable file manager than the current versions, or the highly configurable power manager.)
  • It uses a fork of Qt3, TQt.
  • This will vary from distro to distro, but I have it using just a little over 100 MB of RAM on a cold boot with MX on my ThinkPad X200T, and practically no idle CPU usage.
in reply to Mwas alt (prob)

Nobody uses cinnamon? Honestly - I really like using cinnamon with Debian. I heard that they promised not to fuck with the UI for no reason unlike... everyone! @Mwa@thelemmy.club Cinnamon is a fairly nice, easy to use desktop - I don't really care which is better, but if they change it, you have to re-learn it. Top tip for UI design - don't think that your users want to re-learn how to interact with your UI - they might go outside, or elsewhere.
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Yeah, they continue to add new features that weren't present in KDE 3 too, in a manner that remains true to KDE 3's iconic look and feel. They post about these new features on their Mastodon, and write in depth about them in their release notes.

They also port and maintain old community-made themes, mods, and applications as official packages, which is something I really appreciate even though I didn't use it back then.

My favorite thing about using *Nix and FOSS in general is that we can not only preserve it's history through forks, but immortalize it. If you want to keep the experience and workflow you enjoy, you simply can. Using Linux with Trinity is like having Windows XP but it's still receiving (and will for the foreseeable future) actually good feature updates, security updates, bugfixes, and access to current software and hardware.

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Xfce

I've daily driven every major DE except KDE (GNOME, Xfce, MATE, Cinnamon) and I always ended up switching back to xfce. I'm not a fan of GNOME's workflow and since it's not that customizable without extensions, that made me switch from it very quickly. I used Cinnamon on Mint for a few months and while the experience was mostly fine, it sometimes felt a bit laggy. As for MATE, while I love the GNOME 2 layout and it's a relatively lightweight DE, I encountered plenty of visual bugs there and I could very easily replicate that GNOME 2 layout on Xfce (without a system menu, but still).

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TruePe4rl

What? I know it's a bit chaotic, but can be more readable than bash sometimes imo. Originally chose it because writing stuff for sed was getting too complex at some point and saw suggestions to use Perl for complex regex instead.