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in reply to cm0002

lemmy - Link to source

Lazycog

Based on the README and that article, the founder sounds like he is deep into conspiracy theories and is an anti-vaccine MAGA person.

Not to downplay the problems on xorg and I am happy it's getting forked, but wtf is up with "No DEI" "Make X great again" in the README... Doesn't convince me at all that this project is going to stay intact and upkept on the long term.

Edit: added some words

Edit2: yeah okay, he's a complete nutjob and a shitty person. See link below

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in reply to CaptainBasculin

lemmy - Link to source

gravitas_deficiency

Is it though?

Hmm

Welp

Seriously though, fuck this guy and his project. Refuse to support it. In fact, use an alt account to introduce subtle bugs and flaws to the codebase if you can. It’s always a good day to fuck with Nazis. And this right here is a project run by a Nazi.

Edit: if anyone dares to whinge about “getting political” with my comment in this community: this is a screencap of the fucking README.MD. It’s an inherently, overtly political commentary in the project that’s clearly friendly to an authoritarian regime. Fuck all that noise.

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in reply to propitiouspanda

lemmy - Link to source

HereIAm

I don't need a project to explicitly say they are DEI inclusive, I generally don't care who is contributing, but when you explicitly state you are against it in the README of your project that is just wild. The only divide I'm increasing by saying I don't support or respect people who choose to, and makes it very clear they are, excluding people based on diversity is a divide they've created for themselves. Especially when it's a fucking open source software project, like wtf does DEI have to do with it that the owner has to bring it up to begin with if not to intentionally hurt someone.
in reply to Nanook

friendica (DFRN) - Link to source

Nanook

@cm0002 I find it sad that people act this way but honestly, Redhat has always impressed me as being intrinsically evil, perhaps just slightly less evil than the likes of Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Apple, etc, but evil none the less.

I remember the old days of Xfree86 and the fork that became Xorg, so not the first
time through this and I look forward to Xlibre becoming a viable and functional
replacement for Xorg that, unlike Wayland, networks.

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in reply to solardirus

friendica (DFRN) - Link to source

Nanook

@solardirus @cm0002 Someone already attempted to make Wayland Network, it's called Wayland on Wires, but it just kind of fizzled. Wayland users aren't real Linux users, they're gamers, outcasts from Windows and they really should have stayed there. Xorg users by contrast are people using Linux to do real work, over the network, which is where X shines and Wayland fails outright, so it is good that XLibre exists.

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in reply to Nanook

lemmy - Link to source

solardirus

What? I've gotten RDP, VNC, and SPICE working fine on Wayland. And if you need app-level displays then waypipe worked fine the last time I used it. I've been running Proxmox containers with Wayland just fine, too.

Any particular use case that benefits from what Xorg was uniquely capable of networking-wise (network transparency, afaik?) of is quite niche and development effort twoards that end has always reflected that!

I've not been able to find the git or project repo/writeup of "Wayland on Wires". Though i do vaguely feel like I saw it somewhere.

But I suppose me and my ongoing computer science degree and shared family hobby of IT simply hasn't reached Real Linux User levels yet. I must sharpen my Bash Blade for another 1000 years...

Since that's the case, I suppose I must defer to your Infinitely Endless Wisdom as a True Linux User. I beg of thee, answer my Most Piteous Questions...:

  1. What do you use Xorg's networking functionality for?
  2. What is ""real"" Linux work?
  3. Why can't you use Wayland for that?
  4. Have you heard of Waypipe? Have you used it?

M. Stoeckl / Waypipe · GitLab

Network transparency with Wayland
GitLab
in reply to Nanook

lemmy - Link to source

solardirus

If I had a nickel for every time someone ignored me just to say something I directly address...

You are pretty blatantly referencing X11 Forwarding / Network Transparency.

I can't reasonably assume you actually read anything I say, but to briefly reiterate:

Checkout Waypipe. Here's a direct quote from the README:

Waypipe is a proxy for Wayland clients. It forwards Wayland messages and serializes changes to shared memory buffers over a single socket. This makes application forwarding similar to ssh -X feasible.


Have you tried this? What is disatisfactory about it? And if all else fails, is there really ANY problem with simply using VNC/etc? What real-world problem do you have that is uniquely solved with this?

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