Is there a federated Strava alternative?
Strava is an absolute nightmare to use. My feed is absolutely chock full of ads and dog-walkers. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy they're taking a 0.2 mile walk around their block and logging their progress, but I don't need to see it. Nike, TrainerRoad, Zwift, Peloton all have giant ads every time their users upload an activity. And I don't understand it because it's not an ad-supported network. Like I would happily pay to have all this shit hidden. It would be extremely simple for Strava to fix this, which would just be to provide me with a simple filter for what type of activities I'd like to see. The fact that they haven't done so, a long time ago, leads me to believe that they simply don't want to, for whatever reason. Plus they've already begun to enshittify by breaking integrations with third parties.
Are there any good options for this?
E: to be clear, I'm asking about the social aspect of Strava.
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ChaoticNeutralCzech
in reply to Ulrich • • •There is a great community effort at openstreetmap.org/traces
You can directly upload there with StreetComplete or Vespucci. Or exports from any tracking app that gives you a GPX file (including Strava I think). Otherwise, don't really expect FOSS-minded people to share their trips.
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in reply to Ulrich • • •That's the neat part, there isn't. Post about your trips where you want, you can then refer to the OSM trace.
People have given consent for you to improve OSM with that data though. For example, one GPS trace can be pretty inaccurate (especially under a canopy where aerial imagery also doesn't work) but you can compile a dozen (get them with a location-specific query) and get a very good average. You can message people about those edits, and add notes.
Also, StreetComplete gives you achievements for completing quests and uploading traces. They are automated but it makes it look like actual people are grateful. Of course most people who use OSM will never actually thank the contributors but you're still doing a great service by improving the map around you.
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in reply to ChaoticNeutralCzech • • •How do you have a "community" without any social aspect?
I can't even see it on a map? All I can see is a white line. Seems like it could be a good product to integrate into another platform.
How do you record with that? Is there some sort of hardware integration?
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in reply to Ulrich • • •The map is a community effort and the lack of social features, which caters to introverts, keeps focus on the end goal - an accurate map of the world. Other platforms are suitable for social activities and you can link to your OSM trace from there.
Yes, seeing the trace geometry only with no map is a letdown. That's why I suggested the visualizer in another comment. It would certainly improve the shareability of traces.
OSM doesn't produce any hardware. They are a wiki-based world mapping effort. In addition, they run a PNG tile provider (so you can embed their map on a website), an article wiki for how to edit the map etc. and the trace repository.
You can use OSM and record traces using various apps mentioned on their wiki.
Comparison of Android applications - OpenStreetMap Wiki
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in reply to Ulrich • • •Running tapiriik locally
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AstralPath
in reply to Ulrich • • •Why do you have a bunch of dog walkers added to your feed? Just remove them and be more conscious of who you are adding in the future.
I can't say I share your experience at all on Strava. I find it to be minimal with the ads. They're not intrusive at all IMO.
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in reply to AstralPath • • •Because they're my friends, and because they post other activities as well.
Do you have any input in regards to the question I asked?
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in reply to Ulrich • • •I started working on a federated implementation of this this week actually.
Would love to read what functionalities you'd see for such service.
For now I'm implementing activity logging, sharing of activities in groups (kinda like Lemmy communities), public or private as well as a statistics and the ability to post traces and create challenges to share.
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in reply to aprifjckdkekddk • • •Running tapiriik locally
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in reply to Hanrahan • • •After ther recent acqusition and firing of a lot of staff, it might not be the best alternative
Edit: article with more details can't find a non paywalled version and not really any other pages that discuss the firing, just the acquisition
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in reply to twistypencil • • •...yes, exactly. The brand of tool used is not relevant to the activity. Users are not adding those photos, they're added by Peloton. Not to mention the activity names.
You don't see Garmin or Wahoo adding in giant ads for their products when syncing rides.