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Haselnusshack, mit etwas Öl rösten gehackte schwarze Oliven braten gekochte Nudeln, z.B. Fussili (wichtig ist, dass die Nudeln so klein sind, dass man sie mit dem Löffel essen kann) ordentliche Portion Parmesan o.Ä.
Alles mischen, mit Löffel essen damit Oliven und Nusshack auch zusammen mit Nudeln und Käse in den Mund kommen. Schmeckt ziemlich gut und ich liebe die Textur.
Mit dem Öl vom Braten/Rösten und der Feuchtigkeit der Nudeln (sie sollten nicht so lange getrocknet sein, dass sie zusammenkleben) geht das schon. Ist aber schon Teil der Textur, dass es trockener ist im Vergleich zu einem Nudelgericht mit einer richtigen Sauce. Hab aber auch schon öfter eine halbe Portion Nudeln ohne alles gegessen (Kochwasser sollte dann gut gesalzen sein), wenn man sich das überhaupt nicht vorstellen kann ist dieses Gericht vielleicht nix für einen.
transcription: first part of the bottle: this tastes like juice. second part of the bottle: im not drunk yet. third part of the bottle: meow meow meow :333 meow :3 mrow purrrr :3 purmrow meow :3 :3 meoowwww :3 mewmew
I got completely annihilated on Korean rice wine once. Tested like slightly sweet water. Ice cold, very refreshing. By glass number four, I was at stage 2 snot bubble. Something like 24% ABV and I was drinking water glasses of it
It is a little bit like vodka. It is served ice cold, tastes like mildly sweet water and comes in a beer-style bottle so people who don't know what it is drink way too much of it too fast and then get hit like a hammer.
Now I kinda want to try soju. I have yet to meet a drink with any appreciable amount of alcohol in it that doesn't taste like paint thinner smells to me. The only way I've ever been able to "not taste the alcohol" is if there's barely any in the drink.
If that's your metric just drink "flavored fortified wine" aka bum my wine like MD 20/20. It's really high alcohol content and super sweet to mask the poor quality.
I've tried wines like that before. I apparently have that gene where you super taste bitter and it just tasted like flat LaCroix mixed with paint thinner.
That's gotta be a different gene, bourbon and rye taste like bitter wood to me (because of tannins from the cask aging) instead of the boozy vanilla that many people claim it tastes like, yet (decent) vodka tastes completely neutral to me. But I do believe that some people perceive alcohol itself as bitter while others do not.
Do you dislike bitter flavors in general, like coffee, tea, or salad?
I probably won't be able to tolerate it then sadly. I'm super sensitive to bitter flavors that's seemingly why alcohol is always so unpleasant to me. I've tried so many drinks that even friends who barely drink at all say they can hardly taste the alcohol that all tasted just vile to me. Thanks though!
Can you elaborate on that? I've never seen anything about people adding water or other mixers into their sake (except the rare case of sake cocktails, which are definitely not the default way of drinking sake).
That said, I usually add water when I drink sake, but I do that because that's what I do with most of my alcoholic beverages; I never got the impression that this is actually the normal way of drinking it.
Yeah, just a few ml to take the edge off - it's not even about the alcohol for me (I happily sip 63% ABV rum if it's the good stuff), but about the unusual sake-specific flavor. I could probably sip a milder sake as-is, but we don't exactly have a huge amount of choice where I live.
Kinda sounds like it's just something you do, which isn't a bad thing in itself, but you wrote that as if it's the standard way to do it.
I'm mostly working off magazine articles, blog posts and books like David Wondrich's "Imbibe!". Most of the time, a simple web search with terms like "how to drink [beverage]" will yield results. e.g. for single malt whisky you can easily find articles and lengthy forum discussions over how much, if any, water to add, and plenty of articles write about what temperature to drink sake at and how to make hot sake. Though it's always possible that something is fairly common in Japan that western bloggers are not aware of.
Schau dir mal an, wie viele rechte Parteien es mittlerweile gibt. Erinnert sich noch jemand an die Werteunion?
Ansonsten muss man halt sehen, dass Kommunisten, Anarchisten und Sozialdemokraten (ich meine jetzt die, die den Namen verdienen - die SPD ist noch ein ganz anderes Thema) gar nicht mal so viel gemeinsam haben.
Kaitlynn Milne says her mother is usually always up first thing in the morning, hours before the rest of the family. She enjoys being productive in the quiet hours around sunrise. It’s an especially optimal time to do yard work, when the rest of her New Orleans neighborhood still sleeps and she can count on peacefully completing chores.
Gardening and rearranging the shed is how an average morning would go for Mandonna “Donna” Kashanian, a 64-year-old Iranian mother, wife, home cook, parent-teacher association (PTA) member and lifelong community service volunteer.
“She always says: ‘I’ve already done most of my day before y’all even wake up,’ complaining at us,” said Kaitlynn, 32. It was always done with love, she says, as her mother adores taking care of others and would wake up every morning excited to do just that.
But the morning of Sunday, 22 June, didn’t go like every other morning. In the early hours, while her husband, Russell Milne, slept inside the house, Kashanian was approached in her yard by plainclothes men who identified themselves as Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) agents.
Sind halt wirklich überrepräsentiert, wenn man es mit der Namensverteilung der Gesamtbevölkerung vergleicht. Ist halt schon so, dass Menschen mit Migrationshintergrund es in Deutschland nicht leicht haben.
Jeremy Corbyn has hinted he could launch a political party alongside other leftwing independent MPs in an attempt to offer “an alternative” to Labour, before the next general election.
Speaking on ITV’s Peston programme, the former Labour leader confirmed discussions were under way among the Independent Alliance group of MPs that he co-founded last year.
Asked directly whether they were preparing to form a new party, Corbyn did not rule it out. “That grouping [of independents] will come together, there will be an alternative,” he said.
From what I can observe lurking, communication between Lemmy and Mastodon is pretty half-baked, with things overall boiling down to users on Mastodon being able to follow Lemmy users, but not the opposite, and posts from Mastodon users may appear on Lemmy but with the text body appearing as title instead. Issues like these may appear due to how each site engine handles the data received. If you must follow users from Mastodon on Reddit-like forums, Mbin is far more compatible.
From Mastodon you can follow Lemmy communities and Lemmy users. Some Lemmy communities name gets hashtags on mastodon, e.g. if you follow #idm there, you will see posts from !idm@lemmy.zip
From Lemmy you cannot follow/subscribe to anything from Mastodon. You can see replies and posts of Mastodon users in Lemmy communities
If you want to follow all from one account with a Lemmy-like interface, the closest you can get is with Mbin. There you can follow Lemmy communities, Mastodon and Lemmy users. You cannot follow Mastodon hashtags though.
What I've done - Linkin Park - MusiQuinta de Animes @musica@lemmy.eco.br
Burlando as regras como de costume mas, em minha defesa, linkin Park é muito anime, sempre presente nos edits de cena de Naruto
https://open.spotify.
thinking about someone I should not bother thinking about
Once upon a time, I was friends with a guy named Jim. A very, very few of you might know him. Almost all of you won’t.
I walked away some years ago, blocked him on the socials over his support for the fascist, because I said that the fascist’s promises absolutely, positively, literally required American concentration camps, and that’s what he was supporting by supporting the fascist, and I could not abide that…
…and yet, he carried on, saying I was a fool, and that none of it would ever happen.
(I asked him then why did he support someone he insisted was lying to him. I do not remember getting an answer, before I quit.)
So now that we have American concentration camps…
…and now that people with direct access to the fascist are talking about sending literally every American citizen of Latino heritage there to die… (it will require more concentration camps than that, of course, but that’s a detail which makes no difference)
I wonder…
…has he yet been moved to repentance?
Or is he still a good and solid member of that wretched cult?
It’s immaterial now, of course. We are long past the point where the pebbles’ opinions matter, and crimes already done cannot be undone.
But once in a while, I think of it.
And for a moment – a pointless, irrelevant moment – I still wonder.
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What a bizarre thing to censor. Surely they could just disprove the bits that were untrue, rather than enforcing groupthink. Countries aren’t your friend.
That's just what the .ml admins do, check out the megathread
Any criticism of them, their instance, the triad, their stances, preferred sources or their favored authoritarian regimes are generally removed.
And, as a cherry on top, they'll turn around and criticize other instances like .world or SJW as the ones who censor "wrong think" or censor criticism of the instance lol
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Ever watch those YouTube restoration videos where someone takes a rusty hatchet and transforms it into a mirror-polished work of art? That's the energy radiatin
A new Associated Press (AP) report detailing how American contractors guarding aid distribution sites used live ammunition, stun grenades and pepper spray against starving Palestinians seeking food has sparked fierce criticism online.
I don't know if this is common knowledge but I hadn't found anything on the web (for Windows specifically) that stated that this was possible.
I kinda badly want to fully switch to Linux in the short term but wanted to first properly test how different distros feel at these specs (and maybe try some basic gaming too); maybe someone that wants to do the same can find this post useful (I hope this is the right community to post to).
To do this I used QEMU, and had to edit the source code and recompile it to enable 240hz. Forcing higher refresh rates is surprisingly not that hard, I only had to edit a single line of code (hw\display\edid-generate.c, line ~390, set '75000' to '240000'). So far Mint, Fedora and KDE Neon work perfectly at that refresh rate (after adjusting mouse input polling rates), then I added a couple other nice features like shared clipboard and mouse device toggling (I tested q2pro and it wouldn't work with absolute mouse coordinates, and relative mouse was a pain to use in normal desktop browsing, so I had to find a way to toggle them if I didn't want to reboot the VM every time).
This is my very first lemmy post (hi fedi!), I wrote this lengthy blog post detailing how I did everything, hopefully I'm allowed to post it here (reddit traumatized me with the blanket banning).
Ever wanted to run a VM at 240hz on Windows? No? Understandable. But I did that anyway cause it seemed very cool to me (still is), and I've explained how to do that in this post. K bye.
Yep my intention is to do that as soon as I switch, honestly the biggest obstacle for me right now is gaming (I'm unfortunately on an nvidia gpu so I'd get like 20% or more performance penalty with the drivers currently shipped for most distros, a little too much for me) hopefully it'll get even better
I did exactly that when I switched to Linux a couple of years ago. Took around a week to setup, it runs well enough, but you lose the use of your main gpu under Linux that way. I tried lutris for gaming under linux and quickly realised the games run very well via wine. O in my opinion the qemu windows with gpu passtrough is not really worth the hassle nowadays. All games I tried work just as well via wine/proton.
After 5 years of foot-dragging they finally close the ticket to community protest:
This feature request is being closed as our current focus isn't in this area.
We appreciate your input and contribution to improving our product. While this feature may have merit, we need to prioritize our efforts elsewhere at this time.
If you'd like to provide additional context about why this feature is important, please feel free to leave a comment on this issue. This will help us better evaluate the feature if we revisit this area in the future.
Thank you for your understanding and continued support in helping us build a better product.
I use forgejo and it's expected to have federation eventually, but it would've been amazing for gitlab to have AP support. Hopefully in the future it might be picked up again.
It's cool af (i don't know much abt atproto, but my friend who knows much more about the technical stuff of fedi/matrix/etc likes it more than AP 🤷) but i wouldn't trust my sensitive repos with it for now. But i guess its the best we have right now :c
What exactly is the idea of federated gitlab? Git is already inherently distributed and automagically mirroring to other remotes is generally like three lines in any CI syntax (and there is probably a precommit hook for it too).
Also: I can see a LOT of security issues with not having a centralized source of truth on what the commit hashes should be and so forth. is fedgit dot zip the source of truth for this app or fedgit dot ml or fedgit dot ca? Theoretically that is where signing comes into play but that gets back to: What advantage does a "fediverse" frontend have?
I think the federation was more about interacting with other instances. Like creating issues and pull-requests without needing to create a new account for every instance.
I think this would be useful, as reporting bugs on GitLabs can be annoying if you have to create an account first.
As one of the core contributors for even a moderately sized project on Github: HELL NO.
We already get more than enough drive by spam from everyone who just makes an account to complain that our code doesn't do something we never said it did. And if they don't even have to do that? Ugh.
I do firmly believe that more projects need to understand the implications of where they host something (similar to the IOS app that alerts you if ICE is in your area). But if someone can't be bothered to even use a throaway protonmail address to file a bug report or feature request? Quite frankly, what they have to say wouldn't have been worth our limited time anyway.
We already get more than enough drive by spam from everyone who just makes an account to complain that our code doesn’t do something we never said it did. And if they don’t even have to do that? Ugh.
That's easy to solve by allowing no one to open issues at all. JK.
I mean... that is kind of what happens with a lot of these projects.
As they get larger you get more and more of those obnoxious jerks who will close ANY issue if it even slightly is related to something in the past or isn't formatted correctly and so forth.
Personally? I am a firm believer in working with (actual) users to make things better. But I have definitely had weeks where it is just "Yup. We got mentioned by Youtuber X again" and we more or less ignore any issue not made by an established contributor.
I always assumed it was more or less targeting the federation of issues/MRs.
The git side of things is already distributed as you said, but if you decide to host your random project on your own GitLab instance you'll miss out on people submitting issues/MRs because they won't want to sign up for an account on your random instance (or sign in with another IdP).
This is where a lot of the reliance of GitHub comes from, in my opinion.
I have most of my projects on either notabug or chiselapp (Fosil, not Git) and to this day I get e-mails asking for stuff or notifying about issues, so it's not like the "social" / "Hub" aspect of "GitHub" is needed.
Github's dominance comes from the network effects. Everyone's on github, so if you have your project on a different repo, you won't get as many visibility. If your project is on gitlab only and someone wants to report a bug, they need to:
Find your instance.
Create an account.
Deal with an unfamiliar interface
Create the ticket
Hope it gets seen.
Potentially forget about it, unless they set up notifications.
A Federated forge solves all of that.
You follow remote projects without having to create an account in the remote instance.
You open an issue on the remote forge without having to open in an account in the remote instance, and you do it from your local server.
If you have a PR ready, the remote instance gets notified.
It makes a lot easier to separate CI/CD from source management.
It makes a lot easier to separate source management from issue tracking.
Issues from people who can't even be bothered to make a burner account are almost never useful. And issue tracking that is not fed directly to passionate people who care about maintaining a project is worse than worthless.
That’s what signed commits are for
Then it is a good thing I addressed the existence of those. And... those also more or less need a semi-centralized source of truth that is independent of gitlab/hub/whatever.
Also, pull/merge requests and issues are sent to the origin instance, just like in the fediverse
So everything would still happen on the single source of truth for an a project? But you can have an account on whatever service you want?
That sucks majorly, I knew GitLab isn't our friend, but to plain dismiss a development effort that didn't even come from their own employees is just spitting in our face. Forgejo federation can't come any sooner ✊
I love that this thread is filled with opinions of people who have no clear idea of what a federated gitlab does or looks like and yet still believes that federation is the only answer just "because".
Hi friends, My name is Cyara, and I’m a transgender refugee living in Gorom camp, South Sudan, along with other queer community members. We came here after fleeing severe persecution and violence in Kakuma refugee camp in Kenya where many of us were harassed, attacked, and denied safety.
We thought we would be safer in South Sudan, but here too we face discrimination, abuse, and daily threats. Then, on June 20th, the government gave us an eviction deadline: leave the camp or face prison. They gave us no plan, no support, just a deadline. That day came and passed. We are still stuck, scared, and exposed.
I know posts like this can feel overwhelming but please believe me when I say: this isn’t easy to write. I’m not trying to guilt anyone. I’m just desperate to get help for me and my sisters.
We are trying to raise $1500 USD to rent a shelter in Juba for 3 months, to house 8 of us while we try to find longer-term safety. We’ve raised $121 so far I’m grateful beyond words for that, but we’re still far from safety.
Please — if you can’t donate, just boost this post. Share it. Let people know we exist. That alone could save a life. Also please mods, my cause was really verified by Qaz. Please don’t take it down. I can still verify my situation
I think that you are not allowed to speak freely on most platforms. And when i say speak freely i dont mean to have right to offend people, just to have right to normaly tell your opinion.
It's mostly the people, not the services themselves. I guess the services don't want to look anti-democracy and toxic lol. They have the "it's fine unless I disagree" philosophy while promoting various "freedoms" (often including freedom of speech) which is definitely not meant for establishing literal minority supremacy.
I don't even see a reason for proving this tbh. It's something you have to see yourself to be sure and from my experience people who don't see it are just highly delusional and deranged or something from that category. People that I know personally and that don't struggle with severe mental illnesses (as those can cause comprehension issues obviously) do see this problem btw.
Yes you are, they are advertising their platforms like you are free to comment anything and most people beleave that. Ask anyone if they think youtube will delete their commen even if they didnt offend anyone and they will tell you no way! So people definitly think that you are free to say anything freely, while you are actualy not. Meaby the sites have it vriten in small letters somwhere deep beried in papers but thats obviusly not clear to people. And its beried on purpose. If they are more clear with that people would searc for another platform that wont do that.
Yes you are, they are advertising their platforms like you are free to comment anything and most people beleave that.
I hate to break it to you, that's your fault for making an assumption (and a bold one at that) or you're just quite naive. Most places that you sign up for will either have you agree to a Terms of Service, or they'll make you agree to the rules. I have even more bad news for you: Advertisements usually try their best to show only the "good" of what is being advertised (such as how an advertisement for a toy doesn't usually make it very clear that batteries are required to use it).
Ask anyone if they think youtube will delete their commen even if they didnt offend anyone and they will tell you no way!
No, they might be angry that their comment was removed, but it's a pretty common understanding that moderators will remove content at their discretion, even if people don't necessarily agree with the decision.
I'm not sure why I'm even engaging in this, usually it's pretty clear when someone gets upset that their "free speech" (that they were never entitled to) is being violated that their intent is to spread hateful content.
Perhaps that isn't you, but nonetheless that is the group you're putting yourself in (even if unintentionally) whenever you ride under that banner.
It would also be worthwhile double checking what actual "Freedom of Speech" is and what it covers. Assuming you are referring to the US' first amendment, it has absolutely nothing to do with anyone other than you and the government (and even then it has its bounds).
As an example, let's say you're a writer for a newspaper. The government cannot take down an article that you write in which you criticize them (because that would fall under protected speech, unless you are making direct threats towards someone), but your boss could absolutely say "No way, we're not publishing that" as they are not a government official.
This doesn't even just include "Freedom of Speech", as another example, with the right to assembly you can publicly assemble and protest the government - but it wouldn't allow you to start a protest on someone's private property.
Found the libertarian that doesn’t understand the concept of free speech. 😂
As BlueBerryDreams aptly put it:
Freedom of speech is a protection from persecution from the government, not an obligation for all other parties to be exposed to your speech. Websites are private spaces, and like most private spaces, have their own rules to abide by. It's their right to make those rules whatever they want, and people can choose the rules that make a more pleasant space to occupy.
Nobody is obliged to broadcast your opinion if they don’t like what you say.
True and that's why closed communities (women only, trans only etc) exist. But if a community presents itself as open, not broadcasting something does say something about its morality imo.
No actyaly noone have to read my comment if they dont find it interesting. Or noone have to read my post if they dont see it interesting. Removing of comments and posts are directly wiolating freedom of speach.
Websites are private spaces, and like most private spaces, have their own rules to abide by. It's their right to make those rules whatever they want
That includes removing whatever post they like or dislike. If you post something against the terms of service and your post gets removed, that’s on you.
Noone is amplifing my opinion, they are just letting us all have our opinions. And they are not removing comment that are violating their terms of service they are removing coments that they dont like, even if they dont violate any terms. Also they are making terms of service very shady and unclear and brod so it gives them right to remove anything they dont like. Also they are not up front about it. If they honestly say yes we will remove any comment that we dont like than people would search for another platform that wont do that. This way they are directly deceiving people in thinking that they have freedom to tell their opinion when in reality they dont.
What do you think the terms and conditions when you make accounts are? That’s why they make you agree to them up front. You chose not to read them and ignore them.
On YouTube the channel operator and the company have a say in how they want their space to be. You have no right to insist on being heard in every damn room you enter. That includes “just leaving a comment for those that want to read it”
If the person or company doesn’t want your opinion in their room it is their right to remove it. Like it or not.
No you are wrong, is it realy fair to put one small “i agree” button and have milion pages of text behand it? Is it ok to let people agree to all that text vithout realy reading it? No ofcourse not its built that way on purpose. Its by design made to lure you to just click ok without reading it, because thats what they want. They dont want you to read it, they want you to just clikc ok so they can continey to do what they want without you even knowing anything. It should be forbiden by law that you make text longer than 10 sentenses. Because realisticly noone can read it. Imagine that you need to read a 100 pages of text for every single app that you want just to try out. Imagine that you need to read 100 pages whenever new small update comes out for your system on your smartphone. And imagine doing the same for your pc, and also for every single app that you have. Every time new update comes out you need to read a 100 pages. Thats not posible and that should be ilegal!
Ok. So here the fun bit. I’m one of those people that does read them. I look into the privacy policy of the technology and websites that I use.
Most terms of service are very similar and are broken down into categories usually. Finding the content and privacy sections doesn’t take long and once you read a few they all become easier to understand.
You might not like it but “I agree” is enough to be legally binding. Just because you didn’t want to read doesn’t mean others don’t. There are a lot of laws and 10 sentences won’t cover that.
As of youtube, first of all thats not their space thats public space and they souldnt have pover to controll it. And im not hierd automaticly because i left a comment. There are many comments on video and i dont read them all so they are not hierd as you sad. But if someone wants to read my comment they should be free to do so. You dont have right to delete my comments. No its not their right to remove it, becayse i dont leave comment for them i leave comment for all the people that are watching a video.
Freedom of speech is a protection from persecution from the government, not an obligation for all other parties to be exposed to your speech.
Websites are private spaces, and like most private spaces, have their own rules to abide by. It's their right to make those rules whatever they want, and people can choose the rules that make a more pleasant space to occupy.
If you want the freedom to be hateful and hostile to people, feel free to hang out on 4chan. Forums are typically more tightly controlled, especially specific topic forums, with discussion tightly controlled to keep things on the subject so the site stays useful and not buried in irrelevant content.
Dude if you dont want to read my comment on youtube video than dont, just skip it. But deleting my comment is direct violation of freedom of speach. Noone is forcfuly listening to me. Let me speak freeli and noone is exposed forcfuly to my speach. If you dont want to read my post on forum than don read it. Deleting my post is violation of freedom of speach.
Deleting my post is violation of freedom of speach.
Repeating it doesn't make it true. Sorry, but that's simply not what the first amendment is about. 'Freedom of speech' means you can't be arrested for a YouTube comment criticizing our glorious Cheeto (yet). It does not grant you control over the content other people choose to publish to private websites.
These spaces are not free, public spaces, and they have never been. Stop living in this fantasy world. Twitter is not a town square, it's Elon's private club and he can do whatever the hell he wants. The only thing I can do is choose not to use it, and focus on sites run by people I'd rather support.
Second sites are not honest about freedom on them. If you say that everyone are free to comment whatever they want, as long as its not directly offencive and than delete all comments that are just reviling the truth without offending anyone, than you are straight up lying people. If you honestly sad that you will do that kind of things, people would search for another platform. So you are directly scaming people.
That was the big problem on sites like Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit. They advertise themselves as a public square. Then they would censor speech in various ways unknown to the speaker. A lot of people in this thread don't understand that. In case you are not familiar, sounds like you are, Martin v. City of Struthers (1943). I know these sites aren't just U.S. citizens, so a lot of the comments come from foreigners who only familiar with their limited freedoms their government allows them.
This is the kind of content the .ml admins cultivate through their bans and censorship. They'll frequently remove articles from credible good sources that directly go against their narratives, while allowing misinformation and conspiracy websites to include RT, Sputnik and (as shown) random substack blogs as long as they tow the narratives that align with them.
E.g. Ukraine is a Nazi regime and Russia is just "liberating" the Ukrainian people
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Unfortunately, the "block" isn't really a block on Lemmy, it's barely a mute and that goes for user and instance blocks. Because dessalines refuses to implement a proper system (unsurprisingly). It's been 4 years since "blocks" rolled out
In any case it still allows their toxicity and misinformation to spread, trolling new users who come here unaware of the need to block and such
Really, the best answer is to call for wide defederation like the rest of the Tankie Triad is treated
Is piefed a Lemmy alternative? There are so many new things (very cool!) out there, and Lemmy starts to lose it's luster IMO, not very much interesting news or discussions, lots and lots of "gEnOcIdE" troll bullshit (I mean you can't even ask questions to these people).
Yea, for the most part, but it's still fully federated so you'll still be part of the Threadiverse and will be able to fully see and interact with all of Lemmy's content and users without issues
But, on PieFed, at least block means block, blocking lemmy.ml or any other instance on PieFed blocks comms and users alike and blocking an individual user on PieFed means they won't be seeing any of your comments or posts. So none of this mute BS on Lemmy where problematic users can still brigade your content and comment "behind your back" on your posts/comments without your knowledge
Seemingly for the first time, the Bazzite gaming-focused Linux distro has appeared on the Steam Hardware Survey. Well done to the Bazzite team for making such an amazing distro for gaming (and now just general usage as a while too)! Been my main choice for going on a year now for my general use distro, and I haven't looked back.
Lag? And discontinuous of stuff like X11 and PulseAudio. They even tried to pass removal of 32 bit packages recently. It may not sound important for 64 bit systems but actually a lot of apps (especially proprietary ones) are in themselves 32 bit.
You only have to replace it if the disadvantages affect you. Usually they affect old hardware, specialist hardware and NVidia GPUs. If you have none of those, you should probably be fine.
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The Wisconsin Supreme Court’s liberal majority struck down the state’s 176-year-old abortion ban on Wednesday, ruling 4-3 that it was superseded by newer state laws regulating the procedure, including statutes that criminalize abortions only after a fetus can survive outside the womb.
The ruling came as no surprise given that liberal justices control the court. One of them went so far as to promise to uphold abortion rights during her campaign two years ago, and they blasted the ban during oral arguments in November.
The 15 ministers said that Israel's "strategic partnership, backing, and support of the U.S. and President Donald Trump" make this a "propitious time" to formally steal most of Palestine.
The American Minot nuclear base in North Dakota has been threatened by an invasion of squirrels known to local personnel as "dacrates." These rodents, which have long been a problem, cause serious damage to infrastructure, spread diseases, and threaten the safety of military personnel and their families.
At the same time, the base recently received an 850 million dollar upgrade aimed at strengthening the US nuclear potential. Squirrels reproduce without control — natural predators have disappeared, and effective means of control cannot be used because of the risk to people, including children.
Thus, instead of demonstrating strength and technological superiority, one of the key US nuclear bases looks vulnerable to a pack of small but extremely annoying animals.
This chart is fascinating, although it's unfortunate that so many states don't have a specific category assigned to them. I just can't help but notice how many weeabo degenerates (I am part of said degenerates) must be living in Wisconsin, and Oregon being furry makes me wonder how many furries live there.
I don't like their company because they are also like the meta of porn in the sense that they bought up all their competitors and have made a monolith service
I made it to the final round of interviewing with them a couple years ago. I think it would have been interesting to work for them. They have PHP and even some Laravel in their stack.
Yeah I was a bit surprised too, they even told me how well I did during the interview and how I was getting stuff right that most of their candidates get wrong, and they made it seem like I should expect an offer from them. I think the dealbreaker was that I hadn't worked with message brokers before.
I really don't see what kind of percentage you were expecting. To me it looks almost exactly like the market share of android in the areas of the world where PH is used.
I think smartphones definitely win when it comes to convenience, accessibility, and ease of use. Even at home I use my phone a whole dang lot for general chill purposes, even though I have bigger and better screens to use.
I can't comment on porn because I genuinely never watch porn of any sort (yes, I'm serious), but I have watched and enjoyed YouTube and Netflix et al on my phone, even at home. I usually prefer a bigger screen but sometimes the portability wins out.
Anecdotally, I only visit PH on my phone and I use incognito mode sometimes, which I'm just guessing would count as a unique visit. Probably a lot of people are doing the same thing, and globally more people run Android than iOS.
I don't like YoY share percentage point delta. It's misleading and making it seem like a significant number of Mac users left, although they probably just stagnated while more Windows and Linux users came. I'd rarher see YoY absolute number delta.
I'm very confused about the significant drop in Apple users as well, but I'm not sure that it's purely caused by a userbase increase. E.g. in mobile, for or this big of a change to occur you would need the userbase to increase by 38% and for none of those new users to be iPhone users. I don't feel like that's a realistic YoY increase in users at this late stage.
Under video game consoles, it lists 0.1% for "Other (3DS/PS Vita)". Unless PornHub offers 3D porn that works on the 3DS (do they?!), I refuse to believe even 0.01% would use the 3DS browser in this capacity.
(On the other hand, that's 0.1% of video game consoles, and I can't imagine too many people use their consoles for porn in the first place... Basically I'd love to see absolute numbers for this)
Why? Did you get stuck in a washing machine yourself at some point?
On a more serious note, I remember reading an article once about this phenomenon. About how it's not some widespread latent sex fantasy to fuck step-siblings. Rather it's an odd reflection of how algorithms poison the content in this attention economy. The more unusual the content is (without being outright objectionable), then the more attention it gets for being so unusual. That starts a wave of new creations from content creators to jump on the bandwagon for the popularity of the content that seems to be getting traction. Then pretty soon anyone not catering to this "demand" is an outlier and loses out, so eventually this theme of content floods the entire ecosystem.
I hear ya. I really wish we could go back to the good old days of "who ordered the extra large sausage pizza" and " I'm here to check your plumbing, ma'am".
Yeah I mean if you’re going to make weird fetish stuff, do it I just hate that some videos that I might enjoy watching are kind of ruined for me just by the title.
Do they provide any source on how data is collected ? Does „only technically necessary cookies“ include in this data or is this an opt in only. Is there any method to filter out bot traffic? ( many downloader use an androidTV ID)
Windows has been getting continuously worse so it's not surprising that those with the income available are continuously willing to spend more to get out of it.
Based on the drop in Safari usage on mobile and desktop, and the increase in Firefox and Opera usage. I'm sort of assuming they swapped over to use the builtin VPN in opera or an extension in Firefox to bypass the blocks.
I'm sorry. There are people who go to an adult hardcore porn site and then type in "Suitable for work"??? Like do you think the site wouldn't get flagged at your work?
Idk, I saw a post on pornhub stats on I believe a map community that showed that cuddles were quite a popular tag. And if it's wholesome and comfy looking why not?
I'm somewhat proud my generation is actively seeking out parody porn. Those videos tend to be higher budget and more sex positive (less gonzo misogyny).
Edit: well, should caveat that by saying relatively less misogynist
As someone else said, they probably kept the original age bracket. I'd say it's at least 5-6 years out of whack. Early Ys are starting their forties, late ones their thirties.
Same here, but it also depends per country since well average life spans, average age to buy a house, average age to start a family etc all have an impact on when a new generation starts.
Vertical video is better for content focused on a single standing performer, because it allows as much of the screen resolution as possible to show the body. Horizontal is better for a performer lying down or any traditional horizontal sex acts, for the same reason.
I'm probably reading a little too far into this, but IMO Gen Z is much less interested in "simulations" of intercourse and is more interested in something "real", i.e someone doing a dance. Intercourse feels like a fantasy, like you're supposed to imagine that you're the one having intercourse, it's that fantasy which is appealing. Something like dancing or dirty talking is more honest about what it is, since a video of someone dancing or talking is essentially the same experience as if they were actually there in front of you. I believe that because Gen Z is more digitally native than older generations, they see digital content not as a substitute or fantasy for a real thing, but rather as a real thing in itself, and the nature of the content they consume reflects that. Another example of this is the shift from real-life streamers who fake personalities but pretend that they are presenting their real selves, to vtubers - who implicitly acknowledge that they are playing a fictional character for their stream as symbolized by their avatars. The human streamers are a fantasy substitute for a real human friend, but with a vtuber the content does not pretend to be different than what it actually is - a pretend character putting on a show for your enjoyment. By acknowledging its artificiality and integrating it into the content itself, it shifts from being something "fake" and "simulated" to being something "real". To me it's the exact same dynamic manifesting in a different area.
Now of course, I do understand that vertical content also simply means you don't need to rotate your phone, and that Gen Z is almost exclusively using the Internet on the phone vs. the desktop as older generations will. But this too is essentially a reflection of the feeling that digital content is not an artificial recreation confined to a specific display area (a TV or computer) but rather perpetually available (your phone), as would be appropriate for something which has taken on the status of being real rather than fake. The two forces reinforce each other, imo.
I wonder how much of this rise is caused by all of the recent state porn bans in the USA. Linux users are overall savvier and more likely able to circumvent the ban
My guess is the increase is due to two factors: Linux based vms scraping PH content to create tensor training models for nsfw AI image generators and individuals in the U.S. visiting behind a vpn that’s registering to the client as a Linux device. I’d visit the link but I’m not behind a vpn.
Or, and hear me out, what if they actually have good engineers and know how to sanitise their analytics? And at the risk of sounding crazy, what if the reason that the Linux share is rising is because it’s genuinely becoming more popular?
User agent logging is often done by running javascript locally on a machine, so the vpn would just pass the javascript to the local machine on which it would be run, so the data wouldn't be effected that way.
Sometimes TLS fingerprinting is done to try to identify bots and not sure if bots would be included. They probably would be included because if they were blocked, then the javascript catching user would never be run on their machine, although I'm unsure of whether such bots would run useragent fingerprinting javascriot yo try to blend in or block it to avoid unneeded processing.
So, Linux doesn't have a general icon and ChromeOS's icon isn't used, what could be an ideal icon/logo for the Linux Kernel, I wonder?
WhatsApp recently pulled support for some older iOS versions and devices, a lot of ppl threw them away and got Androids instead(as they should), I wonder if that's related to iOS's decrease.
Android devices dominate in a lot of countries, especially Asian countries, where our growth in those regions in the last few years has boosted Android’s user base.
As long as you don't use any of the windows and use the front door like my pet penguin, I won't mind. And there's a kernel of truth in there and by that I don't mean the kernel of an apple.
My apologies, this data is misleading. Most of the new traffic is actually just me mass downloading and data hoarding porn across thousands of VMs. Whenever I need to rub one out I ssh into one of them and watch it that way. Keeps it off my main machine and keeps my browser history clean.
I switched from Windows to Linux then went back to Windows cause of mutliplayer games and I'm not sure I'm a fan....like its kinda annoying having to udpate my programs individually.
Using something like PeerTube is potentially even worse because let's say you unknowingly open a video where someone in it looks of age but technically isn't. You as a user help propagate that content while you have it open. You're not just downloading illegal content at that point. You're actively sharing it to new people.
You as a user help propagate that content while you have it open.
I'm sure that's a legal grey area that hasn't been explored largely but I would think you would have to actually host the content or have it on your device locally.
In a sense, you are hosting the content. You're retaining a copy (so long as the window is open) and constantly attempting to spread it. It's literally built on bittorrent protocols if I remember correctly, and it's already very well established that you can be held responsible for seeding copyright infringing material, so I see no reason at all they'd give you a pass for CP instead. You may not intend to, but remember, my example was someone who looks of age but is not.
Legal yeah, but it doesn't stop ... thousands? tens of thousands? of random porn sites. There's no shortage of community driven porn at the moment. Federated solutions only seem to pop up when there's sufficient non-legal censorship of community-driven content.
I am very suspicious of the -26% Apple marketshare. It makes me feel like there's more to this than it seems at first. There's no way 26% of Apple users stopped using Apple devices within a year.
Edit: maybe it could be caused by a large user base increase that shifted the demographics, but this fast? And the PornHub bans across US states started only this year for the most part if I'm not mistaken, so it shouldn't affect this data?
2024 was the release of iOS 17.4, when Apple allowed third party browsers to use their own engine instead of WebKit/Safari as a layer beneath. So it could very well be that Firefox Mobile and Chrome Mobile on iOS don’t get registered as iOS Device in this survey due to their user agent.
Well, been * ahem * told that a friend of a friend didn't found any videos there were "Your friendly neighborhood geek goes into the house of a hot milf to upgrade her Windows 10 machine to Arch and she shows them how hot she found their Linux install skills and how thankful she is", so that seems unlikely.
As the Linux world increasingly moves towards adopting Wayland in place of X11, there is a serious risk that a third of a century's worth of FOSS desktops and windowing environments would get dropped and left behind. Wayback could prevent that happening, and retain the diversity of choice in GUIs while modernizing the tools upon which they run.
Why do I feel like narrowing down the options would not be that bad? The whole world of Linux is, IMO, in dire need of consolidation behind tried and tested, universally accepted technologies instead of endless number of choices for specific tastes. That is at least the case if Linux aims for desktops (like it now very much should and could with all the Win 11 mess).
There really can’t be half a dozen or more alternatives for any particular task. Two desktop environments for example has to be enough for 99% of users, same with package management systems etc. Otherwise the newbie user will only get scared and confused, or not be able to easily find support relevant to their ”version” of Linux.
Man, we really need to make "The ~~Church~~ Cathedral and the Bazaar" required reading.
You clearly have missed the entire point of Linux, which is the freedom to do with your machine as you like. The endless number of choices for specific tastes is the result of people having the choice to write their own thing.
When consolidation happens, when people say "make my choice for me, I can't make decisions" we end up with super constrained setups like MacOS, Windows 11 and stupid Gnome the way it is now; no choice, do it our way or not at all.
And the answer is still freedom. It's obvious in the plugins and addons for gnome that get it to do basic customizing you find in, say xfce as a toggle in the settings. You find it in the myriad of softwares written for windows and mac that let the user do what they want to do.
And I will likely not be the first to point out to you Linux doesn't "aim for desktops", linux isn't an organization the way ms and apple are. And it likely never will be.
Newbies will be scared and confused no matter what's in front of them.
Why do I feel like narrowing down the options would not be that bad?
Perhaps because you miss Microsoft or Apple? In a rather misdirected way?
Half the point is there are multiple ways to do things - and mind, Windows is like that too (you can get to some settings though the new Control Panel, the old Control Panel, the Regedit, the Powershell...). Just about the only thing in Windows you are forced only one vision of is the desktop itself, but as soon as you double-click an icon, all bets are off.
Also if what you want is getting behind "tried and tested, universally accepted technologies"... that's what sysvinit, ALSA, X11 and automake / build-essentials; no need for systemd, Pulseaudio, Wayland and Snaps. Pulseaudio was basically a stillborn deformed baby whereas I've never seen ALSA fail since 2002 (to the point even today I have to "fix" Flatpak not having audio on Pipewire unless Pulseaudio sits behind it by just seating both of them behind ALSA). I don't even have to begin on Wayland, it started as just vaporware; Systemd is largely an attempt to microsoft-ize Linux system management; and Snaps make me want to snap.
As for newbies... others have addressed the point but honestly, if someone gets scared and whiny at the "choose your starter" screen of the game, they're not gonna last any in a Pokémon game nor would I want them around whining about things they couldn't even be bothered to be here for.
oh i remember this. it was that guy who thought he could fix xorg by himself, and ended up breaking it further. then accused gnome of being "dei" when they kicked him out lol
Sooo there's free software (“Everyone should be able to write open source software!”) and there's open source software (people programming their own computers for their own communities). Ideally, Neima should be able to program her computer to help her kids do their homework or for their sports club. So there's open source software that's written for the developers community, and there's open source software that's written for the GNOME community, which is polished and truly a delightful experience for new users: if for example you installed Linux Mint with Cinnamon, you'd connect to the wifi and probably be immediately greeted with a notification telling you that your printer has been added and is ready to go.
I'm not saying that Linux users should learn programming, especially if they don't know about e.g.GNU Guix, Skribe/Skribilo/Haunt, or SICP (that's directly referenced by the Haunt info pages – I promise you, starting a blog as an English speaker with a Skribe implementation and reading SICP once you get comfortable enough could get you started in months); but that of course, learning any field on such a platform as Stack Overflow would provide an absolutely stupid experience, whereas the ideal learning medium is books.
It isn't enough for Google to insert far-right suggestions in YouTube shorts; they've deliberately sabotaged features in their search engine to get us to generate more ads, and Google Scholar results are, by the way, the bottom of the barrel too. Compare queries results to "sex work" or "borderline disorder transgender" with those of HAL and wonder why there's a public distrust in science. More broadly, Google hinders our relationship to information, and we're both trading it for a far-right agenda.
The same is just as true for LaTeX: it's a great, intuitive language, provided that you read some good introduction on the topic. As a matter of fact, Maïeul Rouquette's French-speaking book is available for free on HAL.
I'm more and more fed up as I write that and I'm pretty sure it shows. You may totally use open source software, meant for the non-technical community of a graphical library, desktop environment, Linux distribution, and so forth. But if you really wanted to "learn Linux", please install any distro you're comfortable with and read some good book on whatever topic you want to work on.
As you can see in the screenshot there are a couple of parts of the F-Droid application page in F-Droid that are in a different language. This isn't actually the first time I have seen this and is not limited to the F-Droid application. Currently it's just this one, but in the past I have had more apps than not displaying some or all of their content in a different language despite my phone being configured for English.
No, I am not. I'm based in the US. I was wondering if it could be VPN related, but I haven't connected to a node anywhere outside of the US in months. My phones language is set to English (US) with no other languages selected, and I have explicitly set F-Droid's language to English (US) in my phone's configuration as well.
I just now opened F-Droid after a reboot and without being connected to a VPN and began scrolling through latest and quickly found a random assortment of apps displaying the same way. None of them are installed though.
have you tried changing either/both to another variation of english? my phone has a plain “English” in addition to “English (US)”, and/or you may have a “(UK)” variant
I have, and that didn't seem to work. The Gitlab issue that the other user posted seems to be highly relevant because all of the users reporting an issue have the same phone that I do.
interesting! i didn't see that comment at first. i see somebody mentioned in the issue thread that it doesn't occur in f-droid basic, so hopefully you can just use that in the meantime.
AP spoke to the two contractors for UG Solutions, an American outfit subcontracted to hire security personnel for the distribution sites. They said bullets, stun grenades and pepper spray were used at nearly every distribution, even if there was no threat.
In one video, what appear to be heavily armed American security contractors at one of the sites in Gaza discuss how to disperse Palestinians nearby. One is heard saying he has arranged for a “show of force” by Israeli tanks.
“I don’t want this to be too aggressive,” he adds, “because this is calming down.” At that moment, bursts of gunfire erupt close by, at least 15 shots. “Whoo! Whoo!” one contractor yelps. “I think you hit one,” one says. Then comes a shout: “Hell, yeah, boy!”
“Nanook” is a slur for northern indigenous people in the same way “Chan” is a slur for Chinese people. Sure, there might be some members of that demographic with that name, but using the term as a generalization for that demographic is derogatory in intent.
Using the term “Eskimo” in the instance name is problematic for at least two reasons.
The term itself is considered problematic and derogatory for reasons I don't have time to go into here, but feel free to research why it’s under fire.
I haven’t checked, but the admins are probably not part of the demographics that the term would refer to, so they’re not “reclaiming a slur” so to speak
The comparison between “Nanook” and “Chan” is misleading and not linguistically equivalent. “Nanook” originates from Inuit mythology and is not inherently a slur, while “Chan” has been used in explicitly mocking or derogatory ways. It’s important to recognize the context and history behind each term rather than assume they carry the same weight.
You're right, but also taking together their comment history, we can reasonably assume that they chose their username with the intent to slur rather than as a more benign meaning.
European authoritarians and their enablers in the media are misrepresenting GrapheneOS and even Pixel phones as if they're something for criminals. GrapheneOS is opposed to the mass surveillance police state these people want to impose on everyone.
There are ongoing coordinated attempts at misleading people about GrapheneOS and Signal in multiple European countries. A consistent pattern are completely unsubstantiated claims about exploits with no evidence. These are contradicted by actual evidence, leaks and their behavior.
GrapheneOS is not immune to exploitation, but the fearmongering done in these ongoing attacks on it is very clearly fabricated. They feel threatened enough by GrapheneOS to engage in coordinated attempts at convincing people that it's unable to protect their privacy and security.
GrapheneOS eliminates many classes of remotely exploitable vulnerabilities and makes the vast majority far harder to exploit. It even puts up a strong fight against attacks advanced forensic data extraction tools with physical access. See discuss.grapheneos.org/d/14344… for an example.
There's currently an example of one of these attacks on the project ongoing across Swedish forums and social media. This reached our forum at discuss.grapheneos.org/d/23535…. An account pretending to be just asking questions goes on to pretend to be an expert citing non-existent sources.
This same thing is currently ongoing across several Swedish forums and on social media. It's generally not in English which makes it inaccessible to the broader GrapheneOS and privacy community so they can get away with extraordinary, unsubstantiated claims much more easily.
GrapheneOS is not supposed to stop people installing malware and granting it invasive permission. It does provide alternatives to being coerced into granting invasive permissions by apps via our Storage Scopes, Contact Scopes and other permissions, but it's a user choice.
GrapheneOS similarly not supposed to prevent authorized access to data by someone with the PIN/password and access to the device. Rather, we provide far stronger protection against unauthorized access via exploit protections, 2-factor fingerprint unlock, duress PIN/password, etc.
Our features page at grapheneos.org/features provides an overview of how GrapheneOS improves privacy, security and other areas compared to the most secure Android devices running the stock OS. It's not immune to exploitation and cannot be. Products making that claim are scams.
Not being immune to exploitation doesn't mean it can be successfully exploited in a given real world scenario. It's significantly harder to develop and deploy an exploit successfully. It can be exploited, but it doesn't mean it is happening especially at scale or consistently.
Having far from perfect security does not mean real world attacks including sophisticated ones will be successful in practice. Don't fall for security nihilism propaganda. We'll keep working on advancing security for general purpose computing devices. It will keep getting better.
Los Google Pixel son los máximos representantes de Android, con permiso de Samsung. Es por ello que convencen a los usuarios entusiastas del sistema...
Apple stores which devices/users install which apps. They have the device IDs. US government could obtain a list of people who installed the app if a court authorized it. Not clear what they mean by having to store device IDs. Those IDs aren't accessible to Android apps.
ANDROID_ID is a per-app-per-profile random ID. Not clear why they would need it. Android has privacy-preserving hardware-based attestation if they're talking about making it harder to spoof a location. Can't prevent either iOS or Android users making false reports via attestation APIs regardless.
Making posts with inaccurate technical claims about Android doesn't inspire confidence. It's a closed source app with a closed source service fully under their control. Why is that the approach if their goal is helping people rather than monetizing interest in it?
Apple records which apps people install and requires an account to use their app store. Apple Push Notification Service (APNs) has comparable privacy to Firebase Cloud Messaging (FCM). However, iOS apps must use APNs for push while Android apps do not have to use FCM.
Android apps can implement their own push service or allow the user to choose a service via the UnifiedPush framework. Play Store has a policy of requiring FCM for most use cases for battery reasons but there are exceptions. Unlike iOS, Android allows installing apps from other app stores / sources.
ICEBlock app is very clearly misleading people about privacy and their safety. Apple has a list of which accounts/devices have installed the app. They will provide it to the US government if they receive a court order. FCM is also not less private than APNS and FCM doesn't work the way they claim.
iPhones have good overall privacy and security but Apple does collect telemetry, forces people to have accounts and knows which apps each user/device has installed. They do not have magical privacy and security properties. An app like this claiming iOS gives them 100% anonymity is very strange.
iOS has significantly worse support for VPNs than Android and requires using Apple services. Android exists without Google services and people can install apps from elsewhere. The mandatory or effectively mandatory services on Google Mobile Services devices and iOS have comparable privacy.
I'm genuinely interested in people thoughts about the Fediverse because here in the UK it has massively stalled in 2025, like a lot of things. I am seeing way less posts from UK people and way less interaction and general use in fact. Most seem to have stopped social media use to be fair, and I know a lot of that is to do with my age (old fart here, 56 laps round sun and counting) but the numbers game look poor from my point of view. Do we think the Fediverse has a future now after useage appears to be going downwards? Is it a UK thing? (well I know the UK is weird but hey)
Bluesky blew itself up cos they failed to be sufficiently decentralised and became an echo chamber. Activpub systems are less echo chambery but still have a very strong left lean that is significantly effecting out ability to grow especially among the centre who represents the majority. We need more right wing opinions and allow said right wing opinions if we want the majority of people to adopt it.
The fundamental failure of the fediverse that is limiting us is that accounts are not transportable. We need some decentralised ledger of accounts that can be cryptographically verified with a zero trust system. U just set up a oidc server to do that auth and that plugs into every single fediverse application everywhere.
Oidc is the protocol by which auth can happen its the evolution of oauth. U need to build some kind of decentralised ledger then u set up a server that checks that ledger against the user provided auth then u simply make this server have an oidc endpoint allowing it to be plug and play with existing fediverse services.
I say oidc cos almost all fediverse software is already compatible with it.
My point is: if you have a ledger that the user controls and can use to redirect to different auth endpoints, then you don't need oauth. You just use the record in the ledger as the authentication mechanism directly.
Yeah exactly. But instead of having to implement that auth process in every different fediverse service in however many different languages u simply write it once with an oidc endpoint and all fediverse services can run it as a container in their stack. It makes implementing such auth system a simple config change and updating a docker compose to add a new service.
What I am trying to say is that "getting the user to complete a login" is not the novel part that is missing. What we are missing is a way for the user to have control over their actor ID, so that they use the same id regardless of what server that id is delegated to.
So, unless I am misunderstanding you, what you are proposing is an OIDC provider which could be used to authenticate on any other service. That's good, but it doesn't solve the problem that if we had an unified OIDC provider without a DID, all of the actor ids would end up dependent on the OIDC provider.
Ahh I see what ur saying now. Yeah the actor id is hard as it needs to be an actual dereferenceable uri as actors need an inbox and outbox of activities.
I don't think u can maintain cross instance actor ids. The only issue I see with having multiple actor ids for the same user is that they will have their content and profile split across multiple instances.
I guess u could have a meta id that dereferences to all ur actor ids?
Ahh I see I've never looked into how atproto works might need to look into it and sees if some of its systems can be adapted for Activpub. Thx for the info
If you are keen on working on something like that, let me know. I've done some preliminary work to get a DID system that would work like did:plc but I got a bit stuck trying to use a decentralized database based on IPFS as the "ledger" mechanism.
Specific to the DID, I haven't published yet. But what I am doing is based on my Typescript SDK for ActivityPub, so you can follow that repo for updates.
God, shut up. There's the "communist" dumbass instances which is just far right levels of stupid, and then literally the entire rest of this platform is just normal centrist europe views. "Leftist" is a term Americans use to describe giving immigrants healthcare and thinking homeless people should be given homes.
Go say something against trans and see how the fediverse reacts most instances will hand out an instant instance ban. That's a pretty mainstream right wing belief but its almost completely censored on the fediverse.
Normal centrist European views huh? I don't think so their are a lot of right ringers Europe who wouldn't be allowed to say what they want here. Perhaps that's what some Americans mean when they say leftist but that's not what most people mean pretty shit straw man imo.
Hate speech has no place here, no matter how comfortable these creeps feel around their fascist politicians and policemen at home.
Hating Jews was "pretty mainstream" in the NSDAP.
Hate speech is hate speech no matter how many bootlicking pieces of shit might agree, and this is not a platform that's friendly to the miserable fuckers who have nothing better to do with their lives than to spread hate and intolerance. They have Twitter and Truth social to spread their shit.
And here lies my point. A vast majority of people don't think its hate speech. And a vast majority of people believe free speech supersedes hate speech.
Please define hate speech.
I've seen many people defending violence against Jews in the name of Palestine right here on lemmy so I'd say hating Jews is pretty mainstream in the fediverse right now.
I believe the right to free speech grants you the right to express hatred as long as ur not calling for violence u should have the right to say whatever the fuck you want.
That's a pretty mainstream belief for a lot a people who have been completely ostracised and discriminated against by the fediverse as a whole.
In common language, “hate speech” refers to offensive discourse targeting a group or an individual based on inherent characteristics (such as race, religion or gender) and that may threaten social peace.
A related reading would be the paradox of tolerance, which goes far in explaining why we do not want this shit anywhere near our communities.
As for anti-Semitism, I've seen some of it in response to Israel's ongoing genocide, and of course the current context makes both anti-Semitism and anti-Muslim sentiments a very real problem. However, I think people on here mostly seem to be able to distinguish Israel and Judaism, and when they don't it seems moderators are generally doing a better job than on most platforms in my experience. But I doubt you're here in good faith, so I don't see much point in discussing something like this with you.
That's a pretty mainstream belief for a lot a people who have been completely ostracised and discriminated against by the fediverse as a whole.
If you feel discriminated against because people don't want you around, feel free to vote with your feet.
First I always discuss in good faith its a far more rewarding and enjoyable way to engage with the shared human experience. Second the condescending attitude isn't particularly pleasant I'm not speaking with you in such a way I ask you have the same respect for me.
Sure that's a fair definition.
I would argue the paradox of tolerance is widely misunderstood the full quote in which it is based is as follows:
"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.
In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise." - Karl Popper (The Open Society and Its Enemies 1945)
I think most people ignore the second half of it as its convenient for them to do so.
If you feel discriminated against because people don't want you around, feel free to vote with your feet.
Ahh yes vote with my feet and leave the fediverse hence why op is asking why the fediverse has stagnated and doesn't seem to be growing. You have expertly just proven exactly the original point I was trying to make.
U see I also believe in equality (of opportunity) if you have the right to spread hate against right wing views then said right wingers should have said right to spread hate against your views.
I'm tolerant of your hate speech and combat it with ration argument. Your not tolerant of my speech and combat it with deletions, bans, and personal attacks. We are not the same.
And here lies my point. A vast majority of people don't think its hate speech. And a vast majority of people believe free speech supersedes hate speech.
Actually, a vast majority of people don't support being a shitbag to other people. You're confusing popular sentiment with the whims of the conservative elite. If you don't just hide in right wing echo chambers all the time you might be surprised to find out how unpopular your terrible views are.
I frequent many forums both digital and physical under a multitude of identities and the only ones who despise free speech are the extreme left. Pretty much everyone likes it. Lemmy is the most echo chambery of all the places I visit.
If your views are so popular how did trump win the election? Why have almost all right wing parties across Europe gotten a larger percentage of the vote? Why did almost every state in the us shift more right in the last election? These are the facts. You are objectively wrong
I've provided more facts to support my claim than you have for yours. I've provided nothing, whereas you have actively lied about the nothing you've brought forth. I don't need to prove anything to you.
Not that I could, conservatives don't think anyway, and you can't logic someone out of a position they felt their way into.
Of the counties with nearly complete results, more than 90 percent shifted in favor of former President Donald J. Trump in the 2024 presidential election,
Like, no. You can't even read and parse one paragraph, and you want me to compile a bunch of research you won't understand? You want me to explain the difference between a scant majority of the population who decided to and were permitted to vote and a vast majority of all people everywhere to someone who struggles with basic reading? What a laugh.
I made 2 claims u said I was wrong because my claims where wrong I proved my claims where true. Now ur refusing to provide evidence to support your claims. Engage in good faith. Stop being a hypocrite. Have some honour lest I lose what little respect I used to have for u.
The fundamental failure of the fediverse that is limiting us is that accounts are not transportable. We need some decentralised ledger of accounts that can be cryptographically verified with a zero trust system. U just set up a oidc server to do that auth and that plugs into every single fediverse application everywhere.
I've never felt this was as important as people say, at least here in the Threadiverse I don't see it being important. Can you explain how this would help Lemmy/PieFed?
Because it would solve the whole issue of people deciding what instance to sign up to. It would make the fediverse better than the mainstream "the one account to rule them all".
Instances still exist its just that u can log into literally any of them with 1 account. I get instance banned from an instance ur still banned from that instance.
So people still have to choose an instance to login to? This is just to save you from creating an account which is like 25 keystrokes and 4 clicks?
I also don't really want to make things easier for people who get banned often, sounds like it would be easier for trolls to bounce between hundreds of instances with fewer accounts.
A lot of right-wing beliefs have become so extreme that I am frankly happy to not be around them, regardless of how important I feel it is to avoid echo chambers (very). Its one thing to want to be able to have conversations with people you disagree with even though it's challenging, it's another thing to constantly have to contend with people who would like to debate whether you're a human and deserve basic human dignity because you're a minority.
But I would appreciate if we could at least manage not to attack other left wing folks over not being left wing enough, or over what methods are a productive way to solve the problems we're facing.
It's kind of just a microcosm of the infighting and purity testing of the left more broadly (at least in America, I have no idea how things are with the culture of leftwing communities or voices in Europe or the rest of the world), but it still sucks and I'd like to hope we can find a way to do better.
Tbh I'm not even sure what the right and left wing means or believes anymore.
Both terms have been so utterly corrupted and coopted that they have become meaningless to the point of simply being a term used to other one group by the other.
Well that's the problem everyone thinks they are exactly the minimum amount of left and that anyone right of them is a facist. If someone is continuously called a fascist Nazi eventually they will listen.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" - Joseph Goebbels
Australia wasn't so much on the extreme of Americans but we are getting there. Interestingly both the right wing and the extreme left got fucked in our most recent election. Mind u I'm not happy with the current federal government they are introducing a pre capital gains tax on everyone's savings.
I can appreciate how twisted and emotionally charged the labels have become. As a queer(-ish, it's complicated) person in the US, it is not uncommon for right wing spaces on reddit to offhandedly describe me and all the people I care about as groomers. Thats not a good faith discussion of whether the way that I want to see problems solved is productive, it's just dehumanizing people because they're minorities.
I don't want to be around that. I think it is extremely important to have conversations with people you don't agree with, and I still have very little emotional capacity to engage with people that far away from me in terms of what's considered an acceptable way to engage with other humans.
I don't wish them death and dismemberment or for them to face violent retribution (and before people take issue with that, that would radicalize people and harm every single cause I care about, making every problem I'm facing worse. Even just purely pragmatically that's a horrible way to solve our problems like 99% of the time), but I don't wish to share space with them, I don't have that in me.
The left does absolutely have an issue with calling anyone we dont like a Nazi, which is a painful problem to confront due to the fact that our government is descending into outright fascism, and it is now infinitely harder to have a conversation about the fact that this is what fascism looks like now that the word has been so diluted as to be almost meaningless. It essentially just conveys "I really really really don't like that person" at this point, which is a big difference from "this person is framing minorities as responsible for all that ails society to gain power while stripping us of our freedoms and amassing personal power and currying favor with billionaires by selling them our institutions at all or our expense"
I'm curious, how did both the left and right get fucked in the recent election? I'm pretty much entirely unfamiliar with Australian politics save for a couple friendly jordies videos
The issue is the worst of both sides are the ones defining each other. I won't deny that I disagree with some of the things being pushed as part of education for young children. But I wouldn't say that that's grooming let alone define an entire group of people by that. Its defiantly not good faith.
I think the beautiful part of the internet is if u don't want to be around a particular person u can block them and they simply disappear. They have a right to speech but nobody has the right to force you to listen.
I don't think engaging with people emotionally is the correct way to engage especially over a text medium. I think the only real productive discussion that can be had without devolving into a screaming and name calling is rational and logical. I find that emotional arguments and weaponised empathy get deployed on mass instead of rational discussion.
I'm not saying that you should be forced to share a space with such people I simply think that others should not be restricted from having such spaces and engaging freely with people in those spaces.
This is what I'm saying people have been called fascist so long they have become the fascists. Its both sides stripping us of our freedoms and making our lives shit. Its a choice between get fucked or get fucked lite. We are all to distracted fighting a bullshit culture war to realise its just a distraction from the real issues. Funny how the whole culture war thing kicked off just after occupy wall street.
In Australia we have preferential voting so we don't have a 2 party system. We have the liberals who are centre right, we have labor who are centre left, we have the greens who are communists and we have the nationals who are fascists. The nationals never get any seats, liberal and labor trade places as the government every couple years and the greens get a couple seats. This time the greens lost almost all their seats same as the liberals.
It kinda seems like historically, growth has been driven by exoduses from larger platforms. Right now there's not any huge things going on on other platforms that piss people off and make them wanna leave but like, twitter, reddit and meta seem really good at finding shitty thing to do, so I'd kinda expect growth to just pick back up whenever the next outrage happens 🤷♂️
I honestly think self-righteousness pushes people away. It's why I can barely stand bluesky. During the big exodus from reddit, all these so-called far-lefties (who I think were just reddit goons doing infiltration) were all screaming for everybody to defederate. Even now, I keep arguing against idiots posting "kill a cop" or "kill fascists" memes, like this is literally an "advocate violence" platform. I don't expect to pull big numbers with that kind of shit.
Yeah we do have a lot of people who feel it's more important to demonstrate their anger than to figure out what people could do to improve the problems.
Worse still, a lot of people seem to have convinced themselves that whatever makes it most clear they're angry and hurts the people they disagree with the most is actually what's most productive. The anger about the state of things, particularly in the US is entirely valid. The self-justification of behaviours that burn bridges and radicalize more people is not.
If you want to implement any kind of solution you do, necessarily have to have a critical mass of people who agree with you, and you cannot build that by antagonizing anyone who doesn't already share your exact flavour of left wing ideology, and acting in a way that reflects poorly on your ideology to everyone except people who already agree with you
Very rarely is anyone willing to confront that violence as a means to an end, pragmatically, has enormous costs, and that employing it just because you're (justifiably) angry, is almost always detrimental to the exact abouts you're mad about
(Sorry, I know I kinda went off track from exactly what you were talking about, this is just a closely related huge frustration of mine)
violence as a means to an end, pragmatically, has enormous costs,
The people I'm talking about (the worst ones) don't even have an "end." No plan at all. The violence is the end. It's pure stupidity. I see it as the lust for violence, coming up with some politics to justify itself.
I agree. Its very frustrating, as someone who cares deeply about trying to do anything I can to find a future for myself in the increasingly broken status quo the US is devolving into (and has been in for a long time, albiet to a lesser extreme)
But don't you worry, they'll tell themselves the whole while that they're the righteous one for advocating wanton violence. I want off this ride 🙁
Even now, I keep arguing against idiots posting “kill a cop” or “kill fascists” memes, like this is literally an “advocate violence” platform
soooo much! Not only is this becoming an "advocate violence" platform, people are getting pissed if they have a post removed for advocating violence. Lemmy will def end up in the news after some crazy shoots up people and they find out he was all over Lemmy being cheered on to shoot billionaires or something.
Who is going to pay for those ads? With what money? There is no single entity here with enough interest in growing the Fediverse, and any grassroots movements that we do have are strictly against commerce.
I run bespoke hosting and services and people are spending less and less each month. Been doing it for 30 years in various ways and forms and 2025 is by far the hardest year to get anyone to part with money. Everybody thinks they should setup something ad laden it to death, make a fortune and retire at 30. Here in the UK you should visit a loc(ish) new website and see the content disappear behind a torrent of ads, clickbait articles, AI videos etc.
That tells us something about where our culture has gone and is going. I feel what you are seeing reflects this. There's a herd mentality driving a lot of norms.
Network effects are incredibly strong. Xitter is now a disinformation and fascist hellhole, and yet people who should know better still refuse to leave. We have the advantage that we're not growth focused, so we can can bide our time. The inevitable enshittification will do its job eventually, but there's no telling when the tipping point will happen.
Yet, Bluesky has grown to 35M+ active accounts, even though they started way after us
We have the advantage that we’re not growth focused
This is not an "advantage". This is an excuse we tell ourselves to cope with our failures.
The inevitable enshittification will do its job eventually,
And when it does, the majority of people will go the next shiny "free as in beer", VC-funded siloed platform and we are going to be just another "They don't know" meme.
Not gonna argue with you mate, I know we disagree fundamentally on what the fediverse means. Me and most others never will see eye to eye with you with your capitalist growth-focused approach.
The "most others" here is a heavily self-selected group of people who don't want to compromise on any of their values and treat any effort to grow as a threat.
All of this to say, it's fine if you say "Yes, we are small and I want it that way because if it gets any bigger we will be surrounded by people who do not uphold the same values we do". The problem is that you're arguing "We are only small because of $random_reason (network effects/evil capitalists/not enough funding/etc)", as if "being small" was determined by external factors and not something that you can control.
That's the point of disagreement. I think we can control this and we can bring more people here, but it's just that you don't want to do it if means sacrificing your ideology.
When I say "compromise", I am not saying "sacrifice them completely". I am talking about in terms of Big Fedi vs Small Fedi, regardless on where on the scale you want to stay, there are trade-offs to be made.
As I often do, I made a poll on the fediverse about two concepts I am interested in: Big Fedi versus Small Fedi. Although I think these are interesting topics, I couldn’t come up with exact summations of what the “Big Fedi” and “Small Fedi” positions are. So, I wanted to write down what I could here.
The fediverse, in this case, is an internetwork of social networks. It works a lot like email; you can have an account on one network and follow, message, and react to people (or bots) on other networks. The biggest software tool for making fediverse networks is Mastodon; there are a lot of other Open Source servers for setting up nodes. There are also some proprietary nodes — Meta Threads and Flipboard are two of the biggest.
The following are some clusters of ideas that I think coalesce into “Big Fedi” and “Small Fedi”. I haven’t been able to tie them all back to some fundamental principle on either side.
Big Fedi
The “Big Fedi” position is a set of ideas that roughly cluster together. Not everyone who agrees with one or a few of these agrees with them all, but I think they tend to be related.
The fediverse should be big. Real big. Like, everyone on the planet should have an account on the fediverse. It will make the internet better and the world better.
Weshould make choices that help bring the fediverse to new people. Because the fediverse should be big, we should be doing things to make it bigger; in particular, to bring it to more people.
There should be a lot of different account servers. (I’m using “account servers” instead of “instances” or “servers”.) It’s good to have a lot of choice, with a lot of different parameters: software interfaces, financial structure, what have you.
Commercial account servers are welcome. This variety includes commercial services. If they provide the right mix of features and trade-offs that certain people want, it’s good to have them, especially if they have a lot of users.
Moderation can be automated. Shared blocklists, machine learning, and other tools can be used to catch most of the problematic interactions on the fediverse.
Account servers can be big. It doesn’t matter how big they are: 1M, 10M, 100M, 1B people is fine.
The fediverse should have secondary services. In order to grow, we need secondary services, like people-finders, onboarding tools, global search, bridges, and so on.
The individual is central. People should be able to set up their environment how they like, including their social environment. They have the tools to do that. The account server may set some parameters around content or software usage, but otherwise it’s mostly a dumb pipe.
Connections should be person-to-person. The main social connection is through following someone. Building up this follow graph is important.
People I care about should be on the fediverse. I have a life outside the fediverse — friends, family, colleagues, neighbours. My governments, media, celebrities, sports figures, leaders in my industry. It would be good to have more of those people on the fediverse, so I can connect to them.
People should get to make choices about their account server. Everybody has different priorities: privacy, open source, moderation, cost, stability, features. We can all make our own choices about the account server we prefer.
It should be possible to have ad-free account servers. Technically and culturally, we should be able to set these up.
It should be possible to have Open Source account servers. People who prefer free network services should be able to run them and use them.
It should be possible to have algorithm-free account servers. You should be able to just follow things reverse chronologically.
It should be possible to have individually-run account servers. A normal technically-minded person should be able to run their own account server for themself, friends, their household, or even for a larger communty.
Harms that are mostly kept to account servers are up to people on those servers to solve. Good fences make good neighbours. If things become unbearable, people can move servers somewhat frictionlessly.
Affinity groups should stretch beyond account server boundaries. Groups, lists, and other social network features are important and should be fully federated. They should provide a lot of features.
There may be some harm that comes with growth; we can fix it later. We’re going to find problems as we go along. We can deal with them as we come to them.
The fediverse is going to look very different over time. The way things work now are not how they’re going to be 1, 3, 5, 10 years from now. Especially as the fediverse grows, different structures and ways of working are going to develop.
Open standards are important. By having public, open standards available through big standards organizations, we gain the buy-in from different account network operators to join the network. We definitely don’t have time to negotiate bilateral agreements; we need solid standards.
Variety in types of account server operators is good. Different people have different needs and tolerances. If we want to have more people, we need to cater to those different needs with different account servers.
Existing organizations can and should provide account servers. Not just existing tech companies; also businesses providing servers for their employees, universities for students, cities or other governments for their citizens.
Existing services, even if they’re bad, will become somewhat better if they have fediverse features. People on those services will get to connect with a variety of new people. They’ll find out about the fediverse, and might move to another account server, or try something else new.
It’s more important to bring good people to the fediverse than keep bad people off it. More people is good, and the people I care about on other networks are also good. There may be some bad people, too, but we’ll manage them.
Small Fedi
Here is a rough cluster of ideas that I’d call “Small Fedi”. Again, not everyone who agrees with one or two of these agrees with all of them.
The fediverse should be safe. Safe from harassment, safe from privacy violations.
Growth is not important. We’ve gotten along this long with a small fediverse. It’s OK how it is, so growth is not important. Growth is a capitalist mindset.
People who aren’t on the fediverse don’t matter as much as people who are. Their needs, at least. When discussing the future of the fediverse, we don’t need to talk about people on other networks much at all.
If people want to get on the fediverse, they can join an existing account server. We don’t need to bring new account servers to the fediverse; there are a lot already. People who really care about getting on the fediverse can join an existing account server, or set up their own. If they’re not willing to do this, they’re probably not that interested in the fediverse, so why should we bother trying to connect to them?
If growth could cause harm, we either should fix the problem before growing, or we shouldn’t grow. We should examine opportunities carefully, but by default we should say no.
Commercial account servers are discouraged. Most commercial services do harm. Even if they’re on the fediverse, they’re going to try to do harm to make more money. So, they should be avoided as much as possible.
Secondary services can cause harm and should be severely limited if allowed at all. People search and content search can be used for privacy invasion or harassment. Shared blocklists can be manipulated to cause echo chambers. Machine learning can be biased. Onboarding services favour big account servers. They should be discouraged or, preferably, closed.
The account server is central. Moderation decisions, cultural decisions, account decisions, most social decisions should happen at the account server level.
Account servers are the primary affinity group. You should find an account server that feels like home. Any other groups are less important.
Feeds like “fediverse” and “local” are important. There is a public community of account servers that your account server connects to, and the public feed from that community is important. You might use it more often than your home feed. Your local feed is also important, because your account server is a group you belong to.
Moderation should be primarily by hand. The courage and wisdom necessary to make most moderation decisions can only be managed by hand. Automated tools can be manipulated.
Account servers must be small. Human moderators can only do so much work, so the account servers they moderate can only be so big.
The fediverse works just about right right now, and shouldn’t change. There’s a good reason for how everything works, and it’s fine. People who want to change the way things work just don’t get it.
It’s not important that people from my real life are on the fediverse, and it’s kind of discouraged. The account server is the most important affinity group, then the larger “fediverse”. That’s enough; other people are needed or welcome. People who I know who aren’t on the fediverse don’t care about fediverse stuff, so they’d get bored here, anyway.
It is highly discouraged to have ad-supported account servers. Even if they only show ads to their own users, they are causing harm. In particular, they’re showing our content next to ads, or using our content to develop ad algorithms. Either way, harm goes beyond the server border.
It is highly discouraged to have proprietary account servers. They just can’t be trusted with their own users’ data. Also, they’re going to get some of our data, just through federation, and who knows what they’ll do with it.
It is highly discouraged to have algorithmic timelines. Anyone having these causes problems. If you want one, you just don’t get it.
Open standards are less important than making things work the way we want them. In particular, fiddling with standards to keep people safe, and to discourage particular account server structure, is an OK thing to do.
Most existing institutions have proved themselves untrustworthy and should not provide account servers. Name any particular part of civil society, and I can come up with an example of at least one bad practice they have.
Harms that happen on one account server are a problem for every account server. Server blocks, personal blocks, and protocol boundaries aren’t enough to isolate problems to their account server of origin. Secondary or tertiary effects can happen and cause harm.
Existing services, if they’re bad, will make the fediverse worse. Bad practices, bad content, bad members will cause problems for everyone on the fediverse.
It’s more important to keep bad people off the fediverse than to bring good people to it. Bad people can be really horrible. There aren’t actually that many good people on bad services, and if they really wanted to connect with us, they’d find another way.
Where do I land?
I’m mostly a Big Fedi person; I did the work on the fediverse that I’ve done in order to bring it to everyone on the planet. I don’t think people should have to pass a test to be allowed on the fediverse.
That said, I respect that harm can come from new technical decisions and new network connections. As someone deeply involved in the standards around ActivityPub and the fediverse, I’d like to make sure that we give people the tools they need to avoid harm — and stay out of the way when they use them. I very much like the Small Fedi suspicion of new services and account servers, and careful consideration of the possibilities.
I’d like to find ways to mitigate the problems of so many people on proprietary social networks being unconnected to the fediverse, but still centre the safety of existing fedizens. I don’t have an easy answer to how this can work, though.
Anyway, thanks for reading this far. Also, an acknowledgment: I borrowed the term “Small Fedi” without permission from Erin Kissane’s great piece on Untangling Threads. I’m also using it differently, stretching it out, which admittedly is an ingrateful thing with something you borrow. I hope it is not ruined by the time I return it.
Another acknowledgment: this framing is loosely based on the worse is better series of essays by Richard Gabriel. His lists of ideas are much shorter, more cohesive, and more algorithmic.
As I often do, I made a poll on the fediverse about two concepts I am interested in: Big Fedi versus Small Fedi. Although I think these are interesting topics, I couldn’t come up with exact s…
I mean everyone already has platforms they're largely comfortable with and fediverse platforms are less accessible, smaller, and usually clones of existing formats. The primary place we compete is on not being total dogshit, so when people can forget that their comfortable platforms are dogshit, it doesn't surprise me that people wouldn't be going out of their way to venture out into a new unfamiliar thing, with a different culture and much smaller userbase 🤷♂️
I'm happy to be here regardless of whether we're growing personally. In spite of Lemmy's challenges I enjoy it here, and that's enough for me.
I’m happy to be here regardless of whether we’re growing personally. In spite of Lemmy’s challenges I enjoy it here, and that’s enough for me.
I think this is a fine attitude if you are an user who just wants to enjoy a "slow web" kind of experience, but as someone aware of all the ill effects of Big Tech and Surveillance Capitalism, I wish we were more ambituous and aimed for a bigger slice of user share.
I am broadly in favor of growing the Fediverse, but I am also of the belief that most of the ways that people think that should be done, are potentially more counter productive than productive
For users, most people think of growing Lemmy as evangelizing. Personally I think that's almost always experienced as preachy and antagonistic. The real work of making the fediverse competive is the developers maintainers and hosters, and if we as users want the fediverse to grow I think the biggest thing we can do is be a part of making this a good place to be.
Its by creating a culture that when people show up and try things out on a whim, they decide to stay. It certainly helps for people to hear about the Fediverse, but if that's a accomplished through means that make people frustrated and hostile towards us, I think we've accomplished more harm than good.
I deeply miss the thriving small niche communities of reddit, and us not being able to sustain that is 100% down to not having enough users, but I see participating in a way that makes it worth being here as the biggest thing I can do to support the fediverse
My biggest frustration is that I sincerely believe that I had built like 80% of the tools needed to solve the onboarding issues:
Onboarding by signing up via Reddit OAuth on fediverser.network, so anyone had one single place to visit and "migrate"
A website with a curated list of recommended communities, so that they would have content available as soon as they signed up.
15+ topic-specific instances, so that people could become familiar with the concept of federation, without having to be overwhelmed by the initial choices and/or being forced to understand the "politics" of each instance
The "Community Ambassador" feature, to help people to organize and source content from different places and help them bootstrap their communities.
These things are all right there. There was no single admin interested in implementing it. Everyone was just looking at their own few thousand users and never got together to think "how can we get from 50k to 5 million?"
I can certainly see why that would be frustrating. I'm surprised I'd not heard of your project before- does it have a name or a github? If it does and I see folks talking about how we can improve onboarding or grow the fediverse it'd be nice to be able to mention it to them
I think I'm subbed to fedibridge- have you posted about it there? I feel like admins may be kinda swamped and it might need traction with users who want to see things grow in order to cut through the noise and have it be a significant enough priority for any admins. There may also be an issue of them knowing that making onboarding from reddit significantly easier, if successful might mean putting a lot more strain on themselves and their instance
That has been my impression of present dynamics and historical data, too - boom-bust-cycles of either some other platform fucking up or there being curiosity from some synergetic effect, then the initial wave breaking over time - but usually also leaving behind at least more (genuinely active) users than before the wave. For Lemmy, one can definitely see some reduction in activity, I think - not dramatically, but I do think it's noticeable if you spend a lot of time here. E.g. unlike during the last Exodus, I see more of "the same users" than before. There's still enough content, it does not feel dead by a long shot, and who knows when the next wave may hit.
That wave-like character makes it hard to estimate organic growth too, at times. The mass influx of users dying off over weeks will give shrinking numbers there, even if some users from organic growth who are more likely to stay and be active than "mass exodus users" may still join there. Also, users moving in between MBin/PieFed/Lemmy will fudge numbers, but they are essentially in the same ecosystem.
We had some nice steady growth up until some months back, probably partially driven by dissatisfaction with Reddit rallying behind Trump and further enshittification of it. But predictably the lions share of users just accepted the new normal as the inertia of leaving is just too high to overcome. For another exodus event there needs to be a bigger shock to the system, probably something like turning off old.reddit.
I've spent the a good part of last year working on Fediverser. The tools to lower the barrier of migration and to get people out of Reddit were built. To me, it feels like it's the users and admins here that were not interested in pushing that as a goal.
It definitely will happen. I've already noticed I'm sometimes getting weird "your IP is blocked" warnings when using old.reddit. They go away after a refresh but it wouldn't surprise me if they're trying to get people to stop using it.
Social media is kinda washed up. A lot of people are on substack, too. The internet as a place is just less popular, I think. We're all getting sick of it.
Fediverse does everything I require out of social media. Functionality of threadiverse is mostly there and getting better (Piefed will probably replace Lemmy as the go-to eventually), apps are better. Mastodon / microblogging was always good enough for communicating with real people, it’s when you’re an influencer you run into limitations but who cares about that. Maybe there aren’t that many people that are into this and that’s okay because we’re not a corporation that needs to report quarterly growth forever.
(Piefed will probably replace Lemmy as the go-to eventually)
I think rather we'll see more software popping up and diversifying the ecosystem. Then you can pick whichever you prefer. Which is the whole point of the fediverse. I'm currently working on my own implementation. Might take a long while before any alpha version as I'm super busy but I try to do at least a bit of work on it every day.
As a general comment, I suggest everyone interested in making the Fediverse grow to join those two communities - !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com is about promoting the Threadiverse on other platforms (usually Reddit) - !fedigrow@lemmy.zip is about growing communities on the platform
Nobody likes to shout into the void. The second one helps finding people to help you grow your communities.
I just wish there wasn't so much sectarianism on fedi. Or maybe it's a good thing that this kind of social dynamic is possible in online world. I don't really know. What I do know is that it's rather annoying to see the instance admin being labeled as reactionary because someone dug up something from five years ago and decided to start a FUD campaing.
Just from a quick look at fediverse.observer/, it looks like the Fediverse is mostly steady at 1-1.25 million monthly users (give or take) over the past two years with a slight decreasing trend. I think there are some reasons for this that are not entirely in our control.
There seems to be a global sentiment of disconnecting from social media and the internet in general. So, I wouldn't be surprised if ever platform is seeing a decaying user base. Anecdotally, among the people I see in real life, there is a general sense of exhaustion with online spaces. Whether it's from corporate-own, enshittified platforms to even places on the Fediverse, the people with whom I interact tend to find the entire thing hollow. They've trimmed down to one or two platforms (if that). In fact, I've even started to get that way. In the past, if someone were wrong and arguing against a point I made, I'd engage, especially if it's in something that I have expertise. Now, why bother? There's no use arguing; people have little interest in admitting fault or engaging in good faith (again anecdotally). That said, I'll concede that the Fediverse is a bit better on that front, but not by much.
Then there's the alternative nature of the Fediverse. It's been rehashed over and over about how "difficult" it is to get on and use. It's not actually that hard, but the barrier to entry is an extra step. That small extra step frightens people away from even joining. The only time that barrier gets broken is when a "legacy" social media platform does something anti-user. Then there is a refugee wave that comes in and goes out leading to a modest durable increase in users. Recently, there just hasn't been a major controversy on a major platform that leads people here.
Now, my final thought on this is to ask: Is a small and steady-ish population (despite modest decay) actually bad? In my view, I don't think it is. Being smaller and with a smallish barrier to entry means that we exclude a sizable number of the low-effort population. So, there's less (no zero) slop here. Plus, discussions, when had in good faith, can be much deeper and less filled with stupid low-effort jokes. Overall, I'm not too concerned with the number of people on the Fediverse. Growth isn't necessarily the best thing. Even so, with the way most mainstream platforms are going, it's inevitable that they will do something stupid that drives more people to the Fediverse at least for a time.
TL;DR: The monthly population is mostly steady with a modest decay. Most social media is likely seeing similar trends. I don't think the smaller userbase is that bad of a thing.
I definitely get burnt out on it faster when half my front page is meta posts. I don't have time to curate, I just want to see content that isn't about itself.
I browse lemmy exclusively, as a result of distaste for corporatization. Personally I have no reason to leave and I doubt I will anytime soon. I don't have any particular niches that I'm a part of, so the only thing that would cause me to leave is if the feed dried up. I usually open lemmy in the morning and scroll All - top 12h. I get an hour or so of scrolling before I reach posts with sub-10 votes. And that's all I really need. I'll be here until I can't do that anymore.
That's an interesting question. I don't think the advantages of the fediverse are part of any zeitgeist so are not attracting new and diverse users other than maybe through places like Flipboard and maybe Ghost. The future of social media is certainly going to remain fragmented and the fediverse fragments itself by default anyway. I do think that how people use social media is changing; people are tired of overuse to some extent. Does the fediverse have a future? I think it'll remain its own niche as corporate offerings come and go. Increased Interest may come from an unexpected growth in a specialism that is federated. I think my idealism for what the fediverse could achieve is now muted as I probably no longer have faith in open networks as the cultures are way too different so I probably now see the fediverse less through the email analogy and more through the linux analogy. If fedi plods on refining itself in its own slow way (volunteers and no money make for slow progress) then who know the next time a corp offering destroys itself and people search for a less awful and exploitative environment then it might just win out in the long term though I'm not entirely convinced about that. Does that mean i'm off to corporate networks. Not really. I'd rather just stop altogether than fall down that rabbit hole again.
I have enjoyed this discussion but some of my UK peers have added that the fediverse in general (like most social media to be fair) when it is new seems to "american" for them. Bluesky suffers from this criticism as well. This puts a lot of UK users off. Heck even threads is described by many as too us focused right now (see the I'm in the UK is anybody else posts on threads)
All the meta products, reddit, old fashioned forums... plenty of things. Discourse (pah) tik tok. Different but have way more users. I'm genuinely curious how they get so little traffic in this day and age against other methods. And yes, I know I'm asking on Lemmy, but I'm new here, and I still cannot fathom why they are so quiet
All the meta products, reddit, old fashioned forums… plenty of things. Discourse (pah) tik tok. Different but have way more users
Aren't all of those US focused?
I’m genuinely curious how they get so little traffic in this day and age against other methods. And yes, I know I’m asking on Lemmy, but I’m new here, and I still cannot fathom why they are so quiet
nope they have plenty of UK focused things. Run by a US corp of course, but plenty of local content. I welcome the debate, but for the majority of people not in the fediverse ecosystem, the numbers just look awful and that is a massive reason they don't either look here, or stay. Herd mentality is strong. Most of them are in no way shape or form techy either
That's really interesting. Australian here, and I've remarked several times how the userbase of the fediverse isn't dominated by American voices like most other social media platforms I've used.
It's an interesting perspective. Historically the fediverse was more European; Mastodon is based in Germany and initially got a lot of traction in France, NLNet has contributed a lot of the funding, and there's historically more adoption by European governmental organizations than US. But these days a lot of the energy is being driven by corporate interests (Flipboard, Wordpress, Meta, Ghost) which are primarily American (Ghost being the only exception), so that's leading to a change of dynamics. Distressing, especially given what's going on here in the US!
Kiwi here, originally European so I get content in two languages and from people with some interests in similar. Good percentage of local and international stuff generally keeps me happy. (Not too concerned/glad about overall numbers - there's no continuous growth on a finite planet)
It doesn't, but stalling is different than just sitting roughly the same. I am talking about my experience, with my peers and clients... most of whom have just upped and left
Also British, trying (somewhat failing) to avoid more of the political stuff and that seems to be most of the national specific stuff that gets posted.
There is something in that, plus the internet in general seems to be getting dumbed down a lot. Fedi also seems very much a place full of extreme views which for a lot of people is just a turn off. As a bloke seeing loads of content that is obviously sexual is also something I thought we'd seen the last of...
There is something in that, plus the internet in general seems to be getting dumbed down a lot. Fedi also seems very much a place full of extreme views which for a lot of people is just a turn off. As a bloke seeing loads of content that is obviously sexual is also something I thought we'd seen the last of...
Hey now, that guy is perfectly capable of being a reactionary piece of shit on his own! This kind of thing is entirely in line with what he already thinks.
and don't you think what he thinks was shaped by his self-proclaimed 170+ visits to the US to meet with industry giants and politians to further his own political agenda?
Depends on the topic. Economic and foreign policy sure, and he most likely got pointers on how to actually put his views into action, but the guy voted in favor of letting husbands rape their wives in 1997. Telling him to hate on LGBT+ is like kicking in an open door.
Only proof of its existence I can find is here, apparently it was formerly dubbed by Happy TV, which seemed to be a channel for airing childrens TV shows. I don't actually know if it's lost or not but I can't find it anywhere.
I'd say this is lost, while I can seemingly find other languages pretty easily, the Serbian dub specifically I've come up empty for as well
It's fairly common for a specific language of multi-language release content to be missing. Especially when it's outside of the mainstream languages like English, Spanish, Japanese etc.
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Call it something like greentext or confessions or something. Anyone posting is automatically set to Anonymous with no link whatsoever to the original account for admin or users to track or in the logs/activity pub etc. Like the person will not get replies, notifications on their account for the post, or the ability to reply as Anon. Simply streamline creation of a throw away account using the existing credentials of an existing account for post access and to give automod a chance to act. Maybe bar new accounts or below a certain threshold of engagement.
One could make a community named "Anon Posting" or something, lock it so only a mod can post, and then make the sole mod a bot that would post anything it got via DM (probably after automoding, rate limiting, etc) to said community.
I do think it's a good idea for the bot to keep a log in case it gets abused for sufficiently evil purposes. One could add some extra functionality to the bot that would give identifying information about the poster to instance admins on demand (via DM), but I think instance admins would have pretty easy access to all DMs made to the bot, along with identifying information anyway. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that.)
Also, the bot could totally delete its logs and with them the identities of all posters after a while. Maybe a month?
And, of course, this wouldn't be ironclad anonymity. But it would keep identities secret from anyone but the bot maintainer and instance admins.
Yeah, sounds like a pretty cool concept. Not volunteering to write such a bot (at least any time soon) or anything, but I support it.
I bet you could create a system that runs someone user and domain thru a hash to produce a different alphanumeric value. Display that value instead of user@domain. So not exactly like 4chan, in that everyone has a user. But a username that is isolated from rest of fediverse. That would allow for 'confessions' type posts to not be linked to a standard account. And preserve ability of mods to ban the racists and trolls. I'm not coder. But it seems possible.
I keep seeing people go to the effort of creating a throwaway account to say or post stuff they want or need to externalize on the threadiverse. I'm willing to bet that for every person that goes to that much effort, there are likely somewhere between 10-100 people that lack an outlet and motivation to do the same. Greentext is just a mutual pretext on my part for genuinely caring about people under pressure right now and in need of an outlet in a way that is not really well supported by the fediverse or activity pub.
We are small enough here that regular names and people can hold meaning in familiarity and memorable history. Kind words and social interaction anonymously from these may hold considerably more value and meaning within this social dynamic that is not afforded elsewhere.
Aha, I see. So you mean there should be a community for anonymous posts. I think it's not inherently supported with ActivityPub. But I guess someone could create a bot that all posts went through. However for very obvious reasons the community would need to be moderated VERY efficiently.
Yeah, I'm kinda volunteering for the mod part. In truth I think it would take the respective instance admin setting up such a thing specifically. Like create a throwaway or something so that the actual user is not propagated to other admin or the full activity pub feed being transported. The one instance admin would know and have the ability to filter or block, but that information would never escape the one server. As a mod I would be blind to actual potential bad actors and only filter at the liberal community and comments level. So basically a normal community that replaces the OP name with Anon, and never shares the real ID with anyone.
I can write a bot that would be capable of doing such a thing if you would like. I don't have time to dev for free but if u wanna pay for me to make such a bot then I'd be happy to do so. U do get a 20% discount if the code is published under an AGPL licence.
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Maybe try recognizing that most people actually have very real, legitimate grievances which have been completely swept under the rug by assholes all too eager to avoid responsibility by painting those asking the questions as brainwashed.
Or continue condescending to the entire world so you never have to break the pretty illusions you've painted for yourself, and keep lamenting how the entire world is turning against you.
It's not, the needles or whatever are way to consistent, even in the darker areas. AI would have fucked all that up
Also, it's a basement well window, I have one of these as well. So OP would be standing on the side of the window in his house and the pinecone is on the other side in the fire escape well
Think of it like looking into a really big terrarium
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Abdel Qader Sabbah, Sharif Abdel Kouddous, and Jeremy Scahill Jun 30, 2025
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Lol yea, because constantly spreading Russian propaganda like Ukraine being a Nazi regime or NK actually being really good and definitely not a brutal dictatorship is totally healthy for the Fediverse LMAO
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I'm not gonna lie, guys, neither say the opposite: there are people who play in their phones, I bet you do, so do I. I'm curious to know what do you play in your phones, what kind of "phone gamer" are you. Remember PDAs? The only games that things had were mineswipper, solitaire, chess, sudoku among others. All those are games that perfectly use the touch capabilities of its device, but now, we have more process capacity, and we still have one touch screen (I know, you can touch many points of the screen at the same time). I've always seen the screen of my phone as a one big button, so, I can't play any game that needs more than one touch to be played. I do limit my catalogue of games to those mentioned above, and I really like them. I love sudoku.
A review of Nix/NixOS after using it on all my machines for three years. I'll cover what works, what doesn't, and why it's the first OS that's stuck with me.
This is a well-written post. I agree that “friction” involved with small changes and incompatibility with some Linux binaries are significant downsides. I think NixOS makes a lot of sense for development environments, but it’s not my preference for a personal device
I like the idea of nixos, but I feel like it makes a bunch of daily sacrifices in order to optimize a task I do once every few years? I hardly ever get a new computer, but I install/uninstall/update/tweak packages on my system all the time. With a dotfile manager and snapshots, I get most of the benefit without any of the drawbacks.
I'm always on the go, swapping PCs, travelling for medical reasons. Buy, sell, trade hardware. Nix allows me to boot into my system as if I never left with a simple hardware config update script. Rock solid consistency.
Is your hardware always the exact same? Because if it isn't, then I'm sure you have to do modifications to your config file. And at that point you night as well just use a regular distro instead.
So what the main hassle of switching is that you have to run your hardware file to update for your new hardware, then inside your Nix config rarely will I ever have to edit things (maybe UUIDS if totally new machine fresh nix install/but I usually ssd swap for ease of transition and speed, or even clonezilla multiple drives and use as needed) even drivers for example. I've got auto scripts setup to run that will automatically pull any drivers or updates from the base system nix update to any drivers.
There's really only two files you ever have to touch that I've used. Nix hardware, nix config. Once hardware is updated for which system you on you'll never touch that until you boot a new machine with different hardware. If you setup nix how it's supposed to be. Nix config is your master file. A single backup of that and when setup correctly. I can boot like I never left my machine. I'm talking librewolf still has my accounts open and logged in. VPN works. It's all seamless damn near.
You have to learn to play within nixos sandbox meaning understand what your capable of doing and do it all inside config. With a few auto scripts, and 3 or 4 common commands on desktop page for whatever you wanna do and its terminal and memory hands off. I've what I call dumb Monkey commented my entire config and its in order if boot process from power on machine to boot, etc to shutdown.
A regular distro still poses many many more challenges when hardware swapping. You have different files to remember fstab, etc etc which can lead to mental memory load and system clutter if you didn't build and maintain a perfect system from the beginning with stuff like files, sym links, all sorts if tweaks you've made over time.
So I switched to nix to mitigate those things. Now I've made a master config file copy, auto updates, backups, etc is all automated in the background now. All contained in my nix config. It's supremely stable. Mental load is zero. Fills my use case. Immutable.
You have nothing to lose and only to gain. Pick any desktop environment and setup to your liking. I came from windows, to mint, to full custom nix all my apps, browsers, luks, apparmour, firejail, the whole stack.
I've tried live boots of many other distributions but this is the cleanest, leanest, most manageable of them all. My only true concern is project lasting long-term. For now. Aside from not having GUFW. I'm happy. I think there's just a lot if misinfo and lack of hands on use from most people or incorrectly setup systems to utilize how nix should be ran. I think that should iron out over time.
You can manage multiple machines with a single Nix configuration git repository and modularize the configuration as much as you want. You can have a config with a desktop environment that you skip on servers, override individual variables for a specific host or do whatever you want. You can even remote deploy it all with a simple nixos-rebuild build --target-host "user@host" and it works across different architectures too (e.g. build on your fast x86 machine and deploy to a slow RaspberryPi).
Loved nixOS but couldn't install PIA VPN gui and disliked the workarounds. Also doing .net dev was more awkward than I liked so went back to Arch and wrote some scripts to install all the packages I want instead. Love the idea of nixOS though.
I feel like setting up a new machine is just the easiest to explain.
Personally, I find dotfiles messy, as you often just want to change one or two settings, but you always carry along the whole file with all kinds of irrelevant other settings. This also makes it impractical to diff two versions of those dotfiles, especially when programs write semi-permanent settings into there.
I guess, your mileage will vary depending on what programs or desktop environment you use. For example, I love KDE, but they really don't do a good job keeping the config files clean. Nix Plasma-Manager generally fixes that, and for example allows defining the contents of the panel in a readable form.
I think you over complicating your view here. I daily nix. Your not carrying a bunch if dot files. You have one. A single nix. Config. That's it. It's not big, long, messy, what so ever. I have mine commented by section from boot order to auto updates and backups. Your talking about 150 lines of extremely short and almost self explanatory code. I came from mint having never used nix. I figured it out doing a custom luks install and the whole custom build from scratch in no time.
Your diff issue is overblown. The edits you make are small and you cannot get lost in multiple configs unless your doing entire system writes which you would never do. I use a dead light weight diff GUI or terminal. This has to be one if the cleanest, maintenance free distros I have ever used.
It doesn't seem you have truly driven Nix with this take. No program writes directly to your config, even if there was say your temp scenario you reboot and temps would wipe away like you never did them unless you rebuild nix config. Most of your concerns would fall away once you really drove nix to see how it functions.
Yeah, you understood my comment entirely the wrong way around. When I say "dotfiles", I mean the non-Nix way of managing application configurations. Nix Home-Manager happens to write to these dotfiles, but that means I don't have to deal with the dotfiles myself.
I've used nixos exclusively lately. It's been awesome. No system scatter, clutter. It'd immutable. There's very slight driver hassle (you don't have GUI for drivers so a simple terminal command fetches everything you need.) in cinnamon. I came from mint. I have all basic commands in executable files on desktop for ease of hassle. It's not about rebuilding the system. Its about being hands off. Next to zero maintenance because not much in your system gets altered. I went for a full custom install from terminal. The only thing I personally miss being GUI is a firewall like UFW or GUFW.
Overall its more rock solid and workable than likely every distro I have ever tried. The feature set is nice, easy rollbacks, fucking cake backups. All you have to know is your entire system lives on one small editable file called nix. Configuration. Keep it in a micro SD or USB or any backup and it's as if you never left. Any changes you want you simply tweak in the config then reboot. If it breaks then select your previous gen number on boot and your exactly where you was before.
I diff my edits and keep copies, run auto backups, and more. It's so hands off that I haven't found a better replacement yet. My single biggest concern is long-term viability in the project.
This is a good example of what people consistently overlook/misunderstand, when it comes to Nix.
Obviously you can remount a /home, or just pull the dotfiles from a personal repo, but the strength of Nix is also in that I can re-create my entire config exactly how it is defined. If i were to setup a machine completely from scratch, with a mature enough config, it will get me from 0 to my exact desktop completely unattended.
But there are also many more advantages to it, at least in my eyes. Let's take trying/tweaking new packages as an example. Yesterday I pulled an old repo for an Outer Wilds mod. The thing needs a dev environment, and a mod manager for the actual game. A nix shell got me both, I finished my work, and when I exit out of fish, both are gone, just as I wanted them to be.
Another good example would be partial os updates. I've used Arch for almost 9 years before switching to Nix, and pretty much a top3 Arch rule is not doing partial updates, or partial rollbacks. In case of a breakage, I would have to manually redownload an older version of a tarball, pacman -U the package, and then hope i'm not cooked. In the case of gcc incompatibilities, it can quickly become a massive pain in the ass. My nix flake would never experience this problem, because I already have two different scenarios available - either i build based on an older lockfile from my git repo, or I create an overlay for a specific input I need, so that it still pulls what it needs, and doesn't interfere with the rest of my system
You only have one machine? I benefit from sharing configs between the laptop and the desktop. They are not the same, but I can easily copy paste a complex service I defined in my desktop to do the same thing on my laptop
I have a desktop, laptop, and a few VMs and servery things. Dotfile manager (yadm, which is a git wrapper) to sync personal settings, everything else I just do manually. The system-level configs are either different enough that standardizing them isn’t very helpful, or no more complicated than installing packages and activating services.
Personally, the stepping stone I needed to know about is Nix Home-Manager, which basically allows you to manage your dotfiles independent of the distro. From what I understand, if I do switch to NixOS, I'll continue using this code with just some minor tweaks.
But yeah, I agree with the verdict in the post. I like it a lot, but I would not have made it past the initial learning curve, if I didn't happen to be a software engineer. Sysadmins will probably be able to figure out how to put it to use, too. But it's just not for non-technical Linux users.
Untrue. I came from windows, to Linux mint, then now I daily nix. I'm an average person who prefers to be terminal hands off. I did a full custom install from my mint setup to nix, apps, luks, the entire swap and booted as if I never left basically. I faltered a few times and had to select previous generations in my boot menu but honestly it'd because somehow I fucked up my UUIDs. The learning curve is there but let me assure you it's minimal in terms of linux, and it's dead stable because nothing changes without you doing it. In 1000 years it should still be running Unadultered.
Meanwhile me as a barbarian installing Debian and copying my ~/.bashrc file (and a few others) if not just remounting /home/ in the new installation every few years.
The biggest downside to containers vs. Nix for me is that Nix can produce binaries for Linux and macOS, whereas docker only helps with Linux unless you can perform literal magic to cross-compile your project on Linux for macOS.
Containers also don't give you reproducible environments, and Nix does.
That said, Nix documentation is ass, so I usually end up going with containers because they require far less suffering to get working because writing a containerfile is much easier than guessing how to hobble together a Nix flake with a mostly undocumented language.
Skipped to the "ugly" part of the article and I kind of agree with the language being hard?
I think a bigger problem is that it's hard to find "best practices" because information is just scattered everywhere and search engines are terrible.
Like, the language itself is fairly simple and the tutorial is good. But it's a struggle when it comes to doing things like "how do I change the source of a package", "how do I compose two modules together" and "how do I add a repo to a flake so it's visible in my config". Most of this information comes from random discourse threads where the responder assumes you have a working knowledge of the part of the codebase they're taking about.
I always aim at packages and issued inside my nix config cuts all this hassle out atleast for me.. Ive got everything pretty meticulously commented and in order of boot process and in general running step by step order. I'm pretty sure I dumb monkey could figure out how it runs. I came from windows then mint then nix. To give you an idea of my PC knowledge. I think the whole point if nix is to keep the system contained and not scattered. I see many posters mentioning system scatter on nix as an issue and I have no idea how theu managed to complicate one if the simplest systems I've ever used as far as clean, tidy, goes.
I've been stuck on Nix for two weeks because I thought it would be a good idea to put a distro I had never used but that wouldn't break on my backup laptop in case my main one ever broke. I just couldn't force myself to install debian, not that I have anything against debian, it's just... kinda boring, while Nix seemed very interesting. IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME I SWEAR.
Guess what happened... I broke Arch. Then I reinstalled and the next day the laptop broke. Then the next day I tried to get my data back and the hard drive broke. So, backup laptop with Nix for two weeks...
I really really really like the declarative stuff. Installing packages through config files is so nice I'll never lose track of what I've installed ever again 🥰 🥰 🥰 I was already using a git repo for all my config files + GNU Stow to symlink everything to its proper place, so adding the .nix configs to that setup was very easy.
Having a clean system on rebuild is great. No more clutter left everywhere that I don't know about, no more half broken stuff left lying around.
But... - It's not Arch. Not Nix's fault, but I kept hearing that it would be "like Arch but declarative"... and it's really not 😑 Everything seems over-complicated vs as simple as possible. - I absolutely hate the language. - What's with those error messages from hell??? - And speaking of hell, every language that can't just use indentations like YAML instead of cluttering the code with {} and [] and () should have been relegated to the darkest pit of hell 20 years ago. But points to Nix for being less awful than JSON (the comma on every line but not the last thingy make me want to build a time machine to go murder the grandparents of whoever thought it was a good idea) - Packages are out of date even in the unstable branch (I know it's unfair since it's not trying to be a rolling release... but... but...) - Where are the source packages? Is that an Arch only thing? I liked having packages that automatically use the latest git commit without needing to manually install from source and manually reinstall each time I want an update like a medieval peasant... 😭 - Nix packages are weird. Even someone who's terrible at coding like me can read Arch PKGBUILDS... I miss you Arch 😢 - Apps not working because of paths that don't exist on Nix... what do you mean I need to patch the package myself? 😭 But at least there's steam-run, great preserver of what's left of my sanity. - ~~Can't wrap my head around installing some stuff like VSCode extensions (the advice I got was "don't bother just do it imperatively...)~~ (Edit: Finally figured it out!!!) - Wiki is often sparse on info and not very helpful if you don't already know what you are doing (and I clearly don't 😅) - Hidden configs. Some stuff works on its own like pipewire even though I haven't installed or configured it (I went with a minimal install that just gave me a tty then build from there, no DE), and how it's already configured is not in the default config files. It's very confusing not knowing why some stuff works and how it's configured by default.
But it's kinda growing on me. Like mold. Or cancer. Brain cancer.
Yes it's a headache if you don't have a clue what you're doing and suck at coding like me, but the good parts might make the headache worth it depending on what you want of your distro. A week ago I couldn't wait to get a new laptop to reinstall Arch, but now I'm actually wondering if I should keep trying Nix... OH GOD HAVE I CAUGHT THE NIX BRAIN CANCER? 😭
I'm just seeing your comment after I recommended Guix, that I could read and understand Guile Scheme is what made me hop away from NixOS, the nixlang is an ungrokable mess
I'm not a fan of nested parenthesis... but aside from that I don't know much about the language, is it more convenient? Does it also suffer from the error messages from hell problem?
Guix is a distribution of the GNU operating system.
Guix is technology that respects the freedom of computer users.
You are free to run the system for any purpose, study how it
works, improve it, and share it with the whole world.
That is something you can't quite escape in Nix either. While it doesn't use parenthesis like a Lisp, the nature of the language and the depths of the sets you are dealing with still makes you end up getting a lot of this at the end of your files:
];
};
};
};
}
Having one } too many or too few is a pretty common issue with Nix and feels very similar to Lisp, even when the rest of the language is quite different.
While some people love putting Lisp in everything, I really don't get it. Guix is far uglier than Nix in the language department. Scheme is not a configuration language and thus has none of the nice things that Nix has (multi-line string handling, defaults, lazy evaluation, inline expression, etc.), instead you get multiple levels of macro spaghetti. Furthermore, Guix forces you to turn everything into Scheme, where you can just use plain Bash in your Nix build steps, in Guix that is all Scheme.
I had spent a lot of years with Scheme before starting with Guix and then spend quite a few years with that, but even after all that switching to Nix just felt so much better instantly. Instead of trying to hack a DSL onto of Scheme you just get a language that's actually build for the task.
But points to Nix for being less awful than JSON (the comma on every line but not the last thingy make me want to build a time machine to go murder the grandparents of whoever thought it was a good idea)
Packages are out of date even in the unstable branch (I know it’s unfair since it’s not trying to be a rolling release… but… but…)
Sure, some packages are outdated. But in terms of percentage of up-to-date packages, it's (AFAIK) the best out of any distro repo. And that's perhaps even more impressive of a feat when realizing it also sports the biggest repo. For actual stats: repology.org/repositories/stat…
Wait how does Nix Unstable have a better score than the AUR? With four times less maintainers? That's really impressive, especially considering how much more simple Arch packages are to make.
Nix has more up to date packages than most distros have packages in total. There's a bot that goes around updating them automatically if they are from github. Maybe there's an issue with your package?
It's reproducible, so random updates are a no-no. You can however just dump the Git URL in your flake.nix inputs and then override the src of the package with that. The source gets updated when you do nix flake update next time. Something like this:
Finally managed to enable VSCode extensions without doing it imperatively or using home manager I'm so happy I could cry 😭 😭 😭
It actually wasn't even that bad, I'm just terrible at understanding documentation I guess
(vscode-with-extensions.override {
vscodeExtensions = with vscode-extensions; [
bodil.blueprint-gtk # Gtk Bluprint language support
ms-vscode.makefile-tools # Makefile language support
bbenoist.nix # Nix language support
ms-python.python # Python language support
naumovs.color-highlight # Color Highlight
ms-azuretools.vscode-docker # Docker
donjayamanne.githistory # Git History
seatonjiang.gitmoji-vscode # Gitmoji
];
})
You absolutely do. If you build a container and publish it you will pull down that exact thing every time. How is that not "reproducibility"?
You no what though? Scratch that - who gives a fuck? Bit-for-bit reproducibility takes far more effort than it's worth anyway. Even NixOS isn't completely reproducible. It's a false goal.
For dev environments, repeatable is okay.
It's well more than good enough you mean.
If you want actually reproducible binaries that you can ship, Nix is better fit for that purpose.
with ansible, you are responsible for making sure that executing the described steps in the described order leads to the desired result
with nix, you describe what you want your system to look like, and then figuring out how to get there is nix's problem (or rather, is obvious to nix thanks to nixpkgs)
It's missing the fact that the nix store can be huge, even if garbage collected regularly. This prevents me from using nix on my Ubuntu laptop with limited HDD space.
I haven't had any issues thus far. But I have not used a lot of appimages. Usually I can find everything in nixpkgs, and those that I didn't all worked with appimages.
I'm not quite sure why you fetishise a bit-for-bit over semantic equivalence. Doesn't it turn "it works on my machine" into "it works on my machine as long as it has this sha: ... "?
Let me disagree there, the language is trivial. It's just JSON-lookalike with expressions, with a lot of nice touches that make using it much easier than all the alternatives (e.g. sane multi-line string handling, lazy evaluation, default values, powerful key/value sets, etc.). The only real stumbling for me when first encountering it was realizing that functions can only take a single argument (which can be a key/value set) and that functions are literally just : (e.g. (a: a + 5) 6 => 11). That's easily missed if you just look at a file without reading the documentation.
The thing that makes it hard is just the complexity of the actual package collection, your configuration contains literally your whole system, and it's not always obvious where to find the thing you need, since sometimes it's a plain package, sometimes it is a services.foobar.enable = true and sometimes you have to fiddle with override or other package specific things. Knowing that search.nixos.org/ exists is half the battle here.
There is also the lack of static typing that can lead to rather verbose error messages, but it's not like many other configuration formats have that either.
There are a few gnarly things about Nix, even for someone who's familiar with Haskell (the most similar language to Nix that's even close to mainstream).
Dynamic typing (you mention this briefly). Some people like the extra flexibility that dynamic typing gives, but there's a tradeoff: more errors. The thing is, due to NixOS's complicated structure, the traceback for an evaluation error might not give you any information about where the cause is (indeed, the traceback might not include a single line of your own code!). This makes errors unusually costly in NixOS specifically, so any language feature that causes more runtime errors automatically has a worse impact than it would in a more "normal" language.
The "standard library" (builtins) is extremely sparse. You basically have to depend on at least nixpkgs-lib if you want to get any real work done.
No real data abstraction mechanisms. No ADTs, no nominal types. The only composite types are attrsets and lists. The usual way to encode a custom type is as an attrset with a _type field or some such.
While we're at it, very limited pattern-matching.
Clunky list literal syntax: no commas between list elements. I can't tell you the number of times I've forgotten to surround list elements in parentheses.
Can anyone remember the rules for escaping ${ or ''? I have to look them up every time.
I'm not quite sure why you think pointing out someone's confidently incorrect claim that containers do give you reproducible environments means that I fetishsize anything?
But if you genuinely want to know why reproducibility is valuable, take a look at reproducible-builds.org/.
I was quite happy to see that Debian and Arch have both made great strides into making tooling that enables reproducible packages in recent times. It's probable that, because of efforts like this, creating reproducible builds will become easier/possible on most Linux environments, including traditional container workflows.
For now though, Nix Flakes are much better at enabling reproducible builds of your software than traditional containers, if you can suffer through Nix not being documented very well. This article covers some more details on different build systems and compares them with Nix Flakes if you want more concrete examples.
FWIW, I think that containers are awesome, and using them for dev environments and CI tooling solves a lot of very real problems ("it works on my machine", cheap and easy cross-compilation for Linux systems, basic sandboxing, etc.) for people. I use containers for a lot of those reasons. But if I need to make something reproducible, there are better tools for the job.
I really want to like Nix. The idea of declaratively defining my entire system sounds great. I can manage it with Git and even have multiple machines all look the same. I can define my partititioning once and magically get a btrfs disk working. Wow!
But I find the language confusing no matter how many times people say it's easy. I have a lot of experience with other programming languages so maybe it just doesn't mesh. It also gives terrible error messages that are hard for me to understand. And Nixpkgs is unpredictable for what version I'm going to get. One of the services I installed ended up being a release candidate version which was a surprise. What if I don't want the latest version of Docker? How do I pin it? Do I have to duplicate part of Nixpkgs? It just feels like a monorepo where everybody has to be on the same versions. Why on earth do the Nix language docs start by introducing math expressions instead of here is a simple self contained thing that installs one program. Here's how you configure it. Here's how you expand. Why does the dependency graph seem to pull in so many unnecessary dependencies? For example, I tried to build a minimal Docker image (which Nix looks to be a very good fit for), but I couldn't figure out how to strip out dependencies that likely were only used during build for a dependency.
I still like the idea and have managed to get my server defined entirely with NixOS which is very cool, but I can't recommend this to my tech friends because if I'm confused they will be more so.
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If I remember later today, I might take a photo of the pair of water fountains at our park. The top stainless steel side looks perfectly fine, but the metal panel underneath both of them is totally rusted out. I'm pretty sure they disabled/disconnected both of them.
Not sure where I might post the photo though, guess I might post under Nowhere Else To Post.. 🤷
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in reply to davel • • •What do you guys think about AnySoftKeyboard? Could it be a "sleeping agent"?
Country of origin is Israel according to: alternativeto.net/software/any…
(I know this doesn't mean anything, but still..)
The main developer seems to live in New York: evendanan.net/
He's probably a good guy. Just got a little suspicious (or curious) when I saw the Israeli flag on AlternativeTo.
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