NVIDIA is full of shit
NVIDIA is full of shit
Since the disastrous launch of the RTX 50 series, NVIDIA has been unable to escape negative headlines: scalper bots are snatching GPUs away from consumers before official sales even begin, power connectors continue to melt, with no fix in sight, mark…Sebin's Blog
just_another_person
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in reply to Eager Eagle • • •Because they choose not to go full idiot though. They could make their top-line cards to compete if they slam enough into a pipeline and require a dedicated PSU to compete, but that's not where their product line intends to go. That's why it's smart.
For reference: AMD has the most deployed GPUs on the planet as of right now. There's a reason why it's in every gaming console except Switch 1/2, and why OpenAI just partnered with them for chips. The goal shouldn't just making a product that churns out results at the cost of everything else does, but to be cost-effective and efficient. Nvidia fails at that on every level.
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in reply to tormeh • • •First, DLSS is supported on Linux.
Second, DLSS is kinda bullshit. The article goes into details that are fairly accurate.
Lastly, AMD is at parity with Nvidia with features. You can see my other comments, but AMD's goal isn't selling cards for gamers. Especially ones that require an entire dedicated PSU to power them.
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in reply to just_another_person • • •Nvidia cards don’t require their own dedicated PSU, what on earth are you talking about?
Also DLSS is not “kinda bullshit”. It’s one of the single biggest innovations in the gaming industry in the last 20 years.
just_another_person
in reply to FreedomAdvocate • • •Low rent comment.
First: corsair.com/us/en/explorer/gam…
Second: you apparently are unaware, so just search up the phrase, but as this article very clearly explains...it's shit. It's not innovative, interesting, or improving performance, it's a marketing scam. Games would be run better and more efficiently if you just lower the requirements. It's like saying you want food to taste better, but then they serve you a vegan version of it. AMD's version is technically more useful, but it's still a dumb trick.
RTX 5090, 5080, and 5070 series GPUs: Everything you need to know
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in reply to just_another_person • • •What exactly am I supposed to be looking at here? Do you think that says that the GPUs need their own PSUs? Do you think people with 50 series GPUs have 2 PSUs in their computers?
DLSS isn't innovative? It's not improving performance? What on earth? Rendering a frame at a lower resolution and then using AI to upscale it to look the same or better than rendering it at full resolution isn't innovative?! Getting an extra 30fps vs native resolution isn't improving performance?! How isn't it?
You can't just "lower the requirements" lol. What you're suggesting is make the game worse so people with worse hardware can play at max settings lol. That is absolutely absurd.
Let me ask you this - do you think that every new game should still be being made for the PS2? PS3? Why or why not?
RTX 5090, 5080, and 5070 series GPUs: Everything you need to know
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in reply to FreedomAdvocate • • •Like I said...you don't know what DLSS is, or how it works. It's not using "AI", that's just marketing bullshit. Apparently it works on some people 😂
You can find tons of info on this (why I told you to search it up), but it uses rendering tables, inference sorting, and pattern recognition to quickly render scenes with other tricks that video formats have used for ages to render images at a higher resolution cheaply from the point of view of the GPU. You render a scene a dozen times once, then it regurgitates those renders from memory again if they are shown before ejected from cache on the card. It doesn't upsample, it does intelligently render anything new, and there is no additive anything. It seems you think it's magic, but it's just fast sorting memory tricks.
Why you think it makes games better is subjective, but it solely works to run games with the same details at a higher resolution. It doesn't improve rendered scenes whatsoever. It's literally the same thing as lowering your resolution and increasing texture compression (same affect on cached rendered scenes), since you bring it up. The effect on the user being a higher FPS at a higher resolution which you could achieve by just lowering your resolution. It absolutely does not make a game playable while otherwise unplayable by adding details and texture definition, as you seem to be claiming.
Go read up.
FreedomAdvocate
in reply to just_another_person • • •I 100% know what DLSS is, though by the sounds of it you don't. It is "AI" as much as any other thing is "AI". It uses models to "learn" what it needs to reconstruct and how to reconstruct it.
What do you think DLSS is?
This is blatantly and monumentally wrong lol. You think it's literally rendering a dozen frames and then just picking the best one to show you out of them? Wow. Just wow lol.
That's not what I claimed though. Where did I claim that?
What it does is allow you to run a game at higher settings than you could usually at a given framerate, with little to no loss of image quality. Where you could previously only run a game at 20fps at 1080p Ultra settings, you can now run it at 30fps at "1080p" Ultra, whereas to hit 30fps otherwise you might have to drop everything to Low settings.
Ditto.
just_another_person
in reply to FreedomAdvocate • • •No, you don't. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_L…
Literally in the docs: raw.githubusercontent.com/NVID…
No it doesn't. It allows you to run a game at a higher resolution for no reason at all, instead of dropping to a lower resolution that your card can handle natively. That's it.
Keep claiming otherwise, and you're just literally denying reality and the Nvidia link to the docs right in front of you.
suite of real-time AI image processing technologies by Nvidia
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in reply to just_another_person • • •Linking to an 81 page document isn’t helpful. What specifically in there are you referring to?
Other than the reasons like I said - running it at higher settings while maintaining a playable framerate. The point is you don’t have to lower settings as much with DLSS.
You fundamentally don’t understand what it is and what it allows you to do.
just_another_person
in reply to FreedomAdvocate • • •You didn't read up on it huh?
Hilarious.
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