Nearly half of Americans say tipping has ‘gotten out of control’
With those tipping screens now seemingly everywhere, Americans think that the practice has “gotten out of control,” according to a new survey.At least 63 percent of US residents now having a negative view of tipping, up from 59 percent last year, according to Bankrate, a financial publisher and comparison service.
Yet, the number of Americans who have gotten used to tipping has gone up since the COVID-19 pandemic, when it slipped. There have not been significant declines in tips for service providers, the survey noted, particularly for hairdressers and restaurant servers.
Nearly half of Americans say tipping has ‘gotten out of control’
Sixteen percent of people said they’d pay higher prices if tipping were eliminatedMichelle Del Rey (The Independent)
propitiouspanda
in reply to Lee Duna • • •I just stopping tipping full-stop.
Tipping culture needs to die.
wondrous_strange
in reply to Lee Duna • • •Have never worked a job that earned me tips, but it seems to me that everyone who holds a full time job should not be required to rely on kindness of strangers for their livelyhood.
Regulations should be such that they mandate all employers to pay a liviable wage.
If that causes places to shutdown, let them greedy bastards shutdown. The market will correct itself.
Continuing as it is today is bad for everyone but the employers and capitalists.
propitiouspanda
in reply to wondrous_strange • • •The argument told to useful idiots is that servers are encouraged to work harder when they rely on tips.
For the rest of us that aren't dumbasses, we can see that if a server isn't doing their job properly, then they can be fired and replaced.
We can also recognize all the servers that bend over backwards and end up getting no tips or something very small.
As usual, tipping culture only exists because stupid Americans have been conditioned to work against their own interests.
FelixCress
in reply to Lee Duna • • •Numenor
in reply to FelixCress • • •Employers can get away with paying employees less as there is an expectation that the public will supplement the difference.
It wouldn't be enough to just stop tipping, a change to employment practices is necessary.
propitiouspanda
in reply to Numenor • • •Once enough people who rely on tips complain or look for work elsewhere, then things can start to change.
Right now, the same people bitching when they don't get tipped also say "they make more with tips."
Until those useful idiots change, we shouldn't expect the system to change.
I expect to be waiting awhile, perhaps the rest of my life.
Jessica
in reply to Lee Duna • • •iAmTheTot
in reply to Jessica • • •Jessica
in reply to iAmTheTot • • •Fair point! I guess it’s just so ingrained that I feel like a jerk if I don’t.
ETA: I don’t tip at businesses just because they have a tip screen on their new POS system. I only tip at restaurants.
propitiouspanda
in reply to Jessica • • •The real jerks are the employers.
They, as usual, have conditioned workers to work against themselves.
Business owners always get a pass because they're insulated from the actual work.
viking
in reply to Lee Duna • • •propitiouspanda
in reply to viking • • •Peer-pressure.
My generation doesn't value rising above it.
Hazel
in reply to Lee Duna • • •There's a massive difference between people saying they wouldn't mind paying more if it meant not tipping and people actually being willing to pay more. The difference between a 20% markup on prices and being asked to voluntarily tip an amount that isn't specified is pretty minimal. Having worked in a job that relied on tips for over a decade, I can't tell you how many times someone who didn't tip complained about the price without a tip. Would they pay it anyway? Maybe. Is it probably a good idea? Maybe. But I don't know many situations in which a 20% hike on prices translates into a 20% increase in wages.
There are definitely a lot of people who would benefit from just making a living wage rather than being paid below minimum and having to supplement that with tips. Often that person just ends up not making minimum wage at the end of the day, and there are definitely companies that exploit that pay arrangement to get people to do work that shouldn't have to rely on tips regardless. There's a small burger place around here that literally hires counter help for tipped wages, but then also makes them do dishes, clean bathrooms, and even help make some of the food. They're basically being paid less than minimum to do two to three jobs, only one of which even legally qualifies for the reduced pay rate.
But would the patrons of that restaurant really not complain if they had to pay an extra $3-4 for a burger? I'm not so sure.
One thing I've learned about people is that many of us find complaining to be cathartic. If it wasn't tipping, it'd be the prices or the service or something else. A lot of the time it's already all of those things.
In the mean time, though, it's probably better to push back against unfair labor practices by trying to pass local laws rather than by just stiffing your server.
propitiouspanda
in reply to Hazel • • •DarkCloud
in reply to Lee Duna • • •propitiouspanda
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