Investigating intentionality in elephant gestural communication
A groundbreaking study published in July 2025 demonstrates that African savannah elephants use intentional gestures to communicate their goals, similar to great apes[^1]. The research team presented semi-captive elephants with desired and undesired items, recording their communication attempts when experimenters met, partially met, or failed to meet their goals[^1].The study identified 38 different gesture types that elephants used almost exclusively when a visually attentive experimenter was present[^1]. The elephants showed three key criteria for intentional communication:
- Audience directedness - signaling only when someone was watching
- Persistence - continuing to gesture when goals were partially met
- Elaboration - using new signals when communication failed
The research was conducted at the Jafuta Reserve in Zimbabwe, where elephants combined specific vocalizations with gestures in greeting behaviors[^6]. They used different types of signals including:
- Silent-visual gestures
- Audible gestures
- Tactile gestures
- Rumble vocalizations
The findings reveal that elephants, like apes, assess the communicative effectiveness of their gesturing and adjust their signals based on the audience's visual attention[^6]. This expands understanding of intentional communication beyond the primate lineage[^9].
[^1]: Royal Society Open Science - Investigating intentionality in elephant gestural communication
[^9]: Pangea Trust - Gestures and greetings used by elephants show intentional multimodal communication
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in reply to just_another_person • • •Because they are not, in fact, older than the universe. That is literally, definitionally impossible.
The age of objects are derrived from simplified equations that proximate real-world phenomina. They're mathematical models, not absolute facts. When an object appears to be "older than the universe", it can mean many specific things, like the acceleration of the expansion of the universe changes over time when most mathematical models do not account for that. It could mean the object is simply further away than we expect to be able to see. It could mean it's simply traveling away from us in some uniquely fast way.
Basically, it means the mathematical model used to derive how "old" the object is, is likely wrong in some way, or that the measurements taken may have inaccurate results, both of which are absolutely and wholly normal for science. Again, they're mathematical models, based on measured observation, not absolute universal truths. There are many, many, many ways data can both be gathered incorrectly or analyzed incorrectly, not even requiring anyone to make a mistake. Science at the fringe of knowledge is very difficult, and requires rigerous testing and validation before it should be trusted. NEVER trust clickbait BS, especially if it's not directly from a scientist's mouth.
We already know our mathematical models are inaccurate in several ways (see dark matter and dark energy for the obvious ones). We just need to figure out how and why they are wrong.
just_another_person
in reply to MotoAsh • • •Exactly why I mention the RED SHIFT that we use to detect the age of distance between objects visually.
If this article is true, that means we can't rely on red shift to determine the distance or age of anything.
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in reply to MotoAsh • • •Okay, so that's still the same question:
1) this report seems to have evidence of a void
2) redshift observation would be impacted if true
3) ge er gravitational relationships between galaxies would be kind of a huge thing considering our limited view of their
So you're saying this article is all bullshit, or what?
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in reply to • • •The pic from the article with candles and ray traced reflections is giving big ‘time cube’/geocities conspiracy theory energy
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