Two French MPs to join new Gaza-bound aid boat
The Handala, operated by the Freedom Flotilla Coalition, left the port of Syracuse shortly after 12:00 pm local time, according to a journalist of the French press agency AFP, carrying about fifteen activists.Several dozen people, some holding Palestinian flags and others wearing keffiyeh scarves, gathered at the port to cheer the boat's departure with cries of "Free Palestine".
The former Norwegian trawler, loaded with medical supplies, food, children's equipment and medicine, will sail for about a week in the Mediterranean, covering roughly 1,800 kilometres, in the hope of reaching Gaza's coast.
Palestinians inspect the wreckage of a gas station destroyed in an Israeli airstrike in Deir al-Balah, central Gaza Strip, Saturday, July 12, 2025.
Two French MPs to join new Gaza-bound aid boat
A Gaza-bound boat carrying pro-Palestinian activists, including members of France's hard-left LFI party, and humanitarian aid left Sicily on Sunday, over a month after Israel detained and deported people aboard a previous vessel.RFI
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in reply to catty • • •Magnesium frame and such. I had an older and heavier one and was always joking it would come handy as a blunt weapon if there was a sudden monster attack. It once fell from my desk to the floor and didn't even had a scratch.
Plus if you are on budget it is really best value for the money.
Check ThinkWiki and Thinkpad wiki sites for details. You do not need high specs to run Linux.
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in reply to catty • • •I think what just_another_person means that Lenovo, specially at the beginning when they got the Think-brand from IBM years ago, tried to ride the brand and released sub-par laptops under ThinkPad -brand. At least some of the L-series were closer to what you could get from your local supermarket than actual work machines.
The brand-riding is now greatly less and the crappy ones generally aren't the models you can find refurbished from 3rd party retailer. I'm currently using T495 and it was ~300€ from a sale couple years ago, now you apparently can get L13 for less than that. And of course, when you buy used units do your homework and only make deal with a reputable seller, there's always an option that previous owner didn't treat the thing nicely.
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in reply to catty • • •Instead of just throwing random preferences out there, I'll help clarify the field of comments:
1) Thinkpads USED to be a safe choice, but Lenovo has been tainting that model line for a few years. Search and find specific models, and don't just buy because it has the Thinkpad brand.
2) Framework is 100% ready to go. They have a Refurb store where everything is cheap, but if you find one cheaper, get it.
3) Dell had a ton of Linux ready laptops under the XPS brand not long ago. Search and find out which to make sure, but they shipped with Linux installed.
4) I hate to say it, but HP Probooks were solid and shipped with Linux also. Terrible company, but they make decent enterprise products. They'll sell for cheap on eBay.
carzian
in reply to just_another_person • • •Framework is the best choice if you can afford it. Seconded your opinions on Lenovo. They're absolute trash now.
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in reply to slackness • • •No, I don't think I ever seem one for under 700 USD, despite some "news" saying you could find at 500 USD.
Every time people ask for cheap computers, there is always people sharing their preferences without any regard for OP's listed needs.
Now you can buy a Framework Laptop 13 for less than $500 (Factory Seconds B-Stock) - Liliputing
Brad Linder (Liliputing)Cyberwolf
in reply to just_another_person • • •Framework is a US company and nobody wants to pay a premium to advance fascism.
Thinkpads are a safe choice. I have the same use case as OP and i use one. Battery last 7-8h of light use, plenty for a plugless day's work.
Cyberwolf
in reply to just_another_person • • •Framework is a US company and nobody wants to pay a premium to advance fascism thank you very much.
Thinkpads are a safe choice. I have the same use case as OP and i use one. Battery last 7-8h of light use, plenty for a plugless day's work.
StrangeAstronomer
in reply to catty • • •If you're in the US, refurbished thinkpads are probably the best option. Not so much here in Australia (but you mentioned GBP so perhaps you're in UK). Whatever. I bought a refurb Dell Latitude 3120 for AU$229
mfg yr 2021
Intel(R) Pentium(R) Silver N6000 @ 1.10GHz
8Gb RAM
Intel UHD graphics
Intel Wi-Fi 5 9560 (160 MHz)
Bluetooth 5.0
Display: 1366 x 768 11.6" touchscreen 2-in-1
Disc: M.2 256Gb PCIe NVME Class 35 SSD
1.35kg
Runs voidlinux like it was born to it. It's my travel laptop.
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in reply to catty • • •If you're able to code from a terminal, and care about longer battery life (my main concern when working from a coffee shop or elsewhere), I'd recommend getting a used android tablet, pry something from xiaomi or oneplus. You can find a decent model used for around that price with > 8 hour battery life easily.
Get a good stand, a solid bluetooth keyboard (logitech makes some great portable ones), and put termux on it (can probably handle light python locally).
If you need it to do CPU powerful tasks, use termux to remote into a VPS or your home server, and let a plugged in linux machine do the work so you can save your device's battery life. This is how I code at least.
Tippon
in reply to catty • • •I'm in the UK, and I've had decent laptops from rapidIT and ITZoo, both .co.uk as far as I remember. I can't remember which laptop I got from Rapid as it was a few years ago, but the first one had a faulty motherboard, and they swapped the laptop with no issues.
I had a Stonebook branded Clevo N750BU from ITZoo, which is an i7 based laptop, and Mint works perfectly on it. It's quite old now, so you'll probably get a newer one for your budget, but with a RAM upgrade it runs everything I throw at it. I use it for designing and editing logos in Inkscape and Krita, and for editing a website in html, css, and javascript, so anything newer should do it even better 😀
cRazi_man
in reply to catty • • •Keep browsing eBay and HotUKDeals. You can easily find something really good for <£200.
This 11th Gen Intel Dell laptop was going to £150 this morning and I was on the verge of ordering it and adding more RAM.
This sub is obsessed with Thinkpads, but when you're looking for a secondhand bargain then you pick up what comes opportunistically. The market is flooded with Dells because businesses change machines long before they go out of date and generally keep them in very very good condition.
CMDR_Horn
in reply to catty • • •Just popped Arch on a Thinkpad Carbon X1 gen8. There about 300 on eBay. Great decision
I use Arch btw
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in reply to catty • • •I have recently bought 2 dirt cheap thinkpads, one for me and one for the wife.
T490s - i5 intel
T14s - Ryzen 5 AMD
Both are tick all your requirements except for the numbpad, the T14s is definitely worth the extra money, though. It can even handle some medium gaming.
Both have upgradeable nvme ssds. However the ram is soldered on the "s" versions of these laptops so find one with 16gb or more.
OhVenus_Baby
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in reply to catty • • •I've had great results with various refurbished Dell Latitudes from eBay over the years. I have a stack of about 5 or 6 of 'em and they've all run many mainstream Linux distros with fantastic out-of-the-box support. I pass 'em out to members of the household whenever a laptop is needed and they'll usually get the job done.
I'd just type in "Dell Latitude" on eBay and filter by price and such. I suspect any model with an i5 and 8GB RAM oughta be fine for light programming work. I've found sellers with high ratings (like 97% or higher) and thousands of sales are pretty reliable (and tend to have return policies in case you get a lemon). Just test all the hardware (webcam, microphone, headphone jack, USB ports, ethernet, etc) as soon as you get it.
I've saved a lot of money over the years buying secondhand, and these machines have been running without a hiccup for years of casual use.
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0t79JeIfK01RHyzo
in reply to Notamoosen • • •There's also multiple T14's with the 8 core AMD variant at the moment on ebay. I recently purchased a similar version myself.
I have both a 2014 MacBook Pro and the listed device. The T14 has a trash tier trackpad and display when compared to a MacBook, but if I was buying it to do any type of programming, I'd choose the T14 everytime if I'm comparing it to a MacBook with 8 GB of ram and a dual core processor. (when compared to a T14 that has the 8 core AMD 4750U)
Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen 1 Touch Laptop AMD Ryzen 7-4750U 16GB 512 SSD | eBay
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