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I have no issues with the way it is implemented, I have no issues with it at all. For context, I left Twitter to join the Fedi, and it has been great so far! I use Misskey for microblogging, PeerTube for uploading videos, and Lemmy for Reddit-style discussions. The Fediverse is amazing!
Except, idk, for the fact that it is too fragmented? I hope I am using the right words. Like, the current instance I am on does not have support for communities, so i have to do it the hard way and mention @fediverse@lemmy.world so that I can post here. It's a good workaround, considering it doesn't have built-in support for communities. But my point still stands. It's not a Lemmy/PieFed problem. It's mostly a fediverse problem. Implementing communities for every platform would help the Fediverse. Not only does it solve discoverability/algorithm issues of the Fediverse (since now when you follow a community, you get all posts from that community), but also it would interconnect every platform (Misskey, PeerTube, Mastodon, etc.)
Imagine you don't have to use your Lemmy account to check everything on Lemmy. Instead of creating channels in PeerTube, just post to an existing channel/community, and people subscribed to that channel/community can find you easily. I see this as an absolute win for everyone.
I understand this would require collaboration between all developers of all software. But hopefully, this is possible? Or am I asking for too much?
If I am wrong, then is there any way in which we can solve this issue?
The developers of Fedi software have different philosophies. Some developers are just not interested in implementing and supporting all kinds of AP actors, kinds of media, ways of attaching media etc. Because they want their software to focus on a certain thing.
Others want to implement everything and interconnect with every platform.
i understand and respect that in every sense. However, i think i made my point. Idk about other softwares, but Misskey has been dabbling around with "Channels" for a while, but the thing is, they're not federated to this day. Hopefully they work more on this. @fediverse@lemmy.world
This is probably why it's not a focus for developers. If Mbin was some huge success, it would show demand for the feature, and more developers would prioritize it higher.
@Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com @fediverse@lemmy.world @mkmusic@torishiro.com @Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com I didn't help that the previous developer (ernest wisniewski) abandoned the whole project called kbin. Mbin is a fork of it and continuation of his legacy.
i knew about mbin for a while, but the UI seemed too cluttered for me. I know i could just make my own client, but the thing is im lazy... ๐ถโ๐ซ๏ธ
so i have to do it the hard way and mention @fediverse@lemmy.world so that I can post here. Itโs a good workaround, considering it doesnโt have built-in support for communities.
That IS the built in support.
If I am wrong, then is there any way in which we can solve this issue?
Yes you are wrong, just keep doing it the way you just successfully did in this. That's the solution.
@fediverse@lemmy.world like someone pointed out to me, different strokes for different folks. I think it's because im the only one interested it semms. So then, i will have to build my own PeerTube+Lemmy+Misskey instance... wish me luck โโ
The issue here is that most developers and users are still thinking in terms of the siloed networks. We don't need "multiple, separate platforms". We need to get rid of the platforms! We need to build our tools around protocols.
The WWW was incredibly successful because anyone could whip up some HTML and publish a webpage. The "protocol" of structured text alongside with links was simple to understand, any browser could do it. The Social Web should work the same.
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for some reason, i disagree with you. A LOT OF developers have different visions for their software. I think the fediverse is in a good place at this point. I just feel like communities need to be federated everywhere...
It looks like that first you need to be able to better articulate what do you mean "federating everywhere", because I can follow a Lemmy community from Mastodon just fine, and you seem to be on Misskey, and we are communicating just fine.
IOW, "federation" is already working.
Perhaps you just mean that you want the UX from misskey to change depending on the source? And you are proposing that this should be done to all software?
Lemmy -> Misskey works fine. It's Misskey -> Lemmy which is a bit of a problem, because Lemmy communities and Misskey channels are two different things. Misskey channels dont even federate server-to-server.
I respect the developer's choices, but if Misskey is going to implement something like channels, might as well federate them too...
I apologise if i havent been clear with the whole "federating" communities, hope this clears things up...
If it was merely a Misskey problem, i wouldnt have made this post, so ill list my likes and problems one by one, i may have been vague with communication:
My likes: 1. Interconnected: i dont need to elaborate too much. One account, to all platforms... 2. Opensource: also not much elaboration. 3. Protocol centric, not platform centric...
My ONLY dislike: 1. Lack of definite communication: Misskey may be my favourite, but it sucks the most when it comes to federating with other instances. There is no upvote system, no favourites system, no saved posts system. I can only reply and send reactions, and those reactions may not even federate properly. Same when i was using Mastodon. There was no downvote system, crosspost, etc. The worst in my opinion is the fact that devs are trying their best to federate with each other but throught different ways. My point is, this discrepancy between platforms calls for standardized system.
I hope i have explained well enough. I apologise if i wasnt clear with this earlier... any solutions to the aforementioned problem?
There is no upvote system. no favourites system, no saved posts system.
There is no such thing as "upvote" on ActivityPub. This is an abstraction on top of the "Like" activity. If Misskey UI is geared only towards reactions and doesn't have a way for users to "like" something, this is a Misskey problem, not a Fediverse one.
My point is, this discrepancy between platforms calls for standardized system.
And what people are trying to explain to you is that this "standardized system" already exists. ActivityStreams is the standard to define a vocabulary, and ActivityPub is the standard that defines what happens when data is sent between different servers.
The issue I am taking with your comment is that it seems that you are expecting developers to start backwards from an unified product vision and then build their way down to the standard. This only works well when you have one single entity controlling everything. It's the "Apple Way" of developing products.
I really don't mind having a separate account for Lemmy and Mastodon. It's not pleasant to force different types of content into different website formats, even if the implementation is "ideal".
That said, I am surprised Misskey doesn't allow you to follow @fediverse@lemmy.world as you would follow a user, Mastodon allows this (it's not as good as viewing inside Lemmy but it does work).
Yeah same. The way I think about federation is in a kind of per โproductโ approach. Thatโs a piece of software can be run by anyone and all communicate and work as a whole is the main benefit. Cross compatibility between โproductsโ/software is just an added bonus, but not necessary
Even more than per product, it's generally per category of products. You can run Lemmy, Mbin, or PieFed and get access to the Threadiverse. The devs actually do a good job with the interop when it fits the format of their site.
i get you. And well after seeing yalls arguments, might as well build my own software with PeerTube+Lemmy+Misskey stocked into one. And it'll help with my coding experience too @fediverse@lemmy.world
will definately check out mbin too. Ill get a computer soon, and then ill start contributing to mbin and hopefully they see my plea for help lol... i love how different people from different platforms get along in the fediverse, coz on Twitter it was so different... and that was before Musk, so i must imagine it must have gotten worse... @fediverse@lemmy.world
It makes me mad how many people refused to leave Twitter, or even just diversify to posting on other platforms, even if they're supposed to be left leaning politically...
GamesDoneQuick for example, they always say "trans rights" and yet their only social media account was on Twitter, until they joined Bluesky just 5 months ago and they still post on both. I don't get it. They could've made a Bluesky or Mastodon account years ago, even if they keep posting to Twitter just mirror your posts!
I tried mbin (registered an account for my brother). The UI isnt that bad, UI is actually well-built, i think what scared me was the the different terminologies. On mbin, you have magazines instead of communities, and microblog instead of posts. But it's not that it's bad, youll get used to it.
The disorganised yet connect nature of the fediverse is something we'll have to get used to. It's like how we all can appreciate different cultures from different countries around the world and be able to share and appreciate one another despite differences in culture. The real problem isnt with the Fediverse, it's with how culturally "bland" social media is now...
Ive checked the repo too, but since ive just started with coding, i do not understand anything... โโ ill try my best to contribute however i can, really want to see mbin continue the legacy...
i just checked your full conversation on your instance (misskey doesnt support edited posts) Misskey does support following the community, its just not done elegantly. All replies from the community show up on my home page, which isnt great.
For now, ill stick with misskey till i find a worthy contender, just love msky reactions too much (too goofy lol, with sfx and all)
edit (since Misskey doesnt have an edit button): yk what, yall make good points. Ill just make my own software, combining Peertube+Lemmy+Misskey into one instance, maybs even Matrix... and if i cant, just not bother complaining then. Coz i understand not all devs have the same vision... i respect that, but till then, keep growing Fediverse, love yall regardless...
Good luck. I know you said you were not a fan of the Mbin UI, but they are already halfway there with Microblogging and Communities (maybe videos even? @melroy@kbin.melroy.org@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de ?)
It might be easier to contribute there than to start from scratch.
@Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com @fediverse@lemmy.world @mkmusic@torishiro.com @melroy@kbin.melroy.org Yes we support basically everything mentioned here. Peertube videos, Lemmy posts and Mastodon / Misskey, etc. (called mircoblogs in the UI) On the microblog side mbin still has a long way to go to be perfect, right know you just know that it is not the primary focus.
Mbin is written in php together with the smyfony framework. We always welcome new devs and I'll do my best to answer any questions that will arise ๐
In the branch(not torishiro) , it supports editing, but the editing function may cause problems in fedi propagation, such as the remote end does not update in real time or does not update. So this instance didn't start this function.
ah, i see... thanks for clarification... I could see why you didnt put it. This instance is actually really nice, has all the features i need... thanks @admin
There are different platforms that serve different uses. Using a common protocol enhances development and growth, and the flexibility of the protocol lets developers build on it without reinventing the wheel.
I have an issue with Fediverse, Lemmy to be exact. The platform is allowing an outside tool that was built for a mod or admin of a community to see votes, how people vote, but it is being exploited by users to spy/dox/harass, gang-up, and use as a tool to exploit other users nefariously. The tool is called Lemvotes. You can access the portal here. Here is a quote from a user (go $fsck yourself @ lemmy.world) who exploits this sharing how to use it with other users;
Thereโs a few ways of seeing votes. IMO they should be visible all the time. Moderators can see the votes of posts and comments in the subs they moderate. Admins can see all votes federated to their instance. Users have to use a separate tool for it. In this case I used Lemvotes.
This tool, imo, should be banned, or the platform to be "patched" to only allow this to work for admins, not users who abuse it.
There is no such thing as a "vote" in ActivityPub/ActivityStreams. This idea of "up/down votes" is just an abstraction of a message saying "Actor A liked B", where B is an Post/Comment (and a post/comment itself just being an abstraction of ActivityStreams objects).
That is to say: there is no way to selectively hide the content a message. If you want federation to work and you want people outside your own server to see your posts, then the server needs to broadcast the messages to anyone listening.
Tools like lemvotes are just exposing this information. There is no point in trying to censor the tool, because this information is available publicly, and any motivated person will be able to track this information.
If you are concerned about what people think of your "likes" and "dislikes", then do not use a public social media service and only communicate with provably secure communication tools.
I think this is less a problem of "nefarious bad actors" and more a problem of expectations. Honestly, I agree with the quoted comment: I think they should be visible all the time, like they already are on Mbin. I think it would help change the way people think about votes so that they don't expect Reddit-style anonymous votes and instead it's a more public Facebook/Twitter-style like system.
If you really want private votes, Piefed has feature that lets you anonymize your votes, but a determined bad actor could still deanonymize you. I think it's better to change expectations than to try to massage a fundamentally public platform into having private votes, but it's good there's an option for people since it's so highly requested.
I think what will eventually happen is much like what happened to email, it too was very fragmented feeling early on but more and more adopted it and more servers kept developing and popping up and then at some point more service providers became more similar than alike and then it became what it is now.
The tricky part is that the concept and usefulness of a federated network mostly only grows in the long run and looks like its not going anywhere in the short term much like email and that is always what makes people question its efficacy.
Participation in any and all forms is what establishes it more and more.
For me and the clients and fwiends I talk to the issue with the fediverse for them is the decentralised nature. Most of them are NOT tech inclined and the suggestion that they would have to choose a server and that choice will influence the experience is a deal breaker - pure and simple. To follow up then if they do join, the sheer lack of numbers baffles them and they quit
i think that not the problem with the fediverse, but the problem with how wehave been cultured so far. We got the concept of emails, we should get used to this soon too...
most of those I talk to struggle with emails to be fair.... we are talking about the non techy people, I feel that is the real reason. Nothing I have seen about the fediverse helps displace the feeling you need to be more techy to use it
its 2025, and people still dont know how to use email?! And they are using the internet?!!! Its clearly not the fediverse's fault...
My parents barely know how to use a computer, let alone use social media. And they STILL understand how email works! Our family grew up with email.
I am very much worried about the future of the tech world, if this continues... Sorry to appear disrespectful to you, i truly understand what you're saying. But, i truly dont get people like them...
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Going back to the system as it functioned in 1900 would solve a LOT of problems. Feds have to collect taxes from state governments, and state governments appoint senators.
Whoever you put in congress, they have no reason not to spend more and more money. Go back to that system and now whenever the feds want to spend, that's money out of the budget of the states - who call the senators and say "WTF is this?!"
#warcriminal Netanyahu thought that he would conquer #Gaza relatively easily and then was ready to launch military operations for the #Zionists' permanent sick target, the "GREAT ISRAEL" He will do anything to avoid the corruption trial that awaits him after the end of his term of office. #Egypt was next in line.
If these are the dead mercenaries per country, multiplying by 10 is a relatively safe method to see approximately how many mercenaries from each country are fighting alongside the Nazi Banderites.
Data profiling, or behavioural profiling, is one of the most powerful tools in digital advertising, and generates billions of dollars of revenue for the sites that host ads.
#Zionist deep state connections banned the group from any event or concert. But #BobVylan hit will keep them alive. We need voices to remind us who the innocent victims are and who is committing #Genocide. Let's not let Zionists wipe out the voices that oppose them.
For 30 years I've been experimenting with ways to see & use the online collections of libraries, archives & museums. I've made useful things, playful things, & weird things. Here's a big list of them for you to explore! wraggelabs.com #GLAM #histodons #digitalHumanities
To provide a bit of context, I've tried to link the things I've built with the things I've written about them (see the 'related' links). The links are made using tags in Zotero, and then the details pulled in using the Zotero API.
Anyone else hearing from devs that they're being "strongly encouraged" to use LLMs by management - who are also raising expectations about "productivity gains" and "cost savings" - and they're not at all happy about it?
Is "A.I." just the latest stick to beat teams with?
Will Meet The Press ask random other white politicians to condemn Trump's antisemitic language this weekend? Or does that only apply to Mamdani? RE: bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4usmsโฆ
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@bquirky Which is why the airlines shouldn't begrudge some passengers bringing alcohol on the plane... ๐คฃ
I just watched this via Redacted about U.S. airlines... different issue, but interesting. In this case, this lady thinks it's a push for pilot-less planes.
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The old neocon dream of redrawing the Middle East through a series of regime changes to the benefit of the US and Israel, shelved for over a decade, has returned to the forefront
The Swiss government tries to fuck us over with a new "agreement" with the EU ๐ก
archive.ph/Nlu7V Among others, the EU wants that Switzerland gives EU citizens (which includes all their 3rd world migrants who received papers after 5 years) a permanent residency status after just 5 years.
So people from the EU who work in Switzerland for 3.5 years, lose their job and collect unemployment insurance for 1.5 years would automatically be entitled to live on Swiss Social Security.
The official estimate is 3000 to 4000 more social security recipients immediately ๐ก
Based on all the bullshit they said previously, we can expect 200K social security recipients within 10 years.
I really hope that this agreement will be rejected by the people.
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Why does a narcissist build metaphorical "mirror rooms" where only his opinions matter? ๐ช
Narcissists often create echo chambers โ or "mirror rooms" โ to surround themselves with reflections of their own beliefs and ideas. This serves to boost their fragile self-esteem and control the narrative around them. In these spaces, dissenting opinions are dismissed or punished, reinforcing their sense of superiority and validating their distorted self-image. Understanding this can help those affected see the patterns and reclaim their own voice. ๐ง ๐ก #NarcissisticAbuse #MentalHealthAwareness #SelfCare
I listend to a bit of na today and I realised it's not the hosts adam and john I don't like anymore it's the clips.. I just can't stand hearing evan clips of TV retards. My life is better without it.
I have been saying this to myself mostly for almost 10 yrs now. 3 hours a show of nothing but faggot m5m meat puppets and retarded pedophile legislators is harmful. We already know who the enemy is, and I don't need any more reinforcement
I have noticed this too. Even in clip form it is sickening to hear media and politicians lying/manipulating for several hours straight. But I am thankful for Adam and John, I will keep supporting the show because by it they are providing a valuable service.
@Desiree4freedom๐บ๐ธ One of the primary, certainly not the only but one of the primary reasons I voted for Trump was he promised to be the President of Peace and his first term was relatively minor in terms of military adventurism, but so much for that.
Truly SHOCKING video reporting here by #AP, about US contractors in Gaza firing live ammo at Palestinians as they come for food aid. IMHO, this is one of those times when it's important to bear witness, unless it would be too distressing to watch the footage. Will be shocked if this does not explode in the news.
American contractors guarding aid distribution sites in Gaza are using live ammunition and stun grenades as hungry Palestinians scramble for food, according ...
A forensic investigation into Israeli military attacks on hospitals in Gaza. The film also examines allegations of the targeting and abuse of doctors and healthcare workers in Gaza.
Exclusive: The powerful film the BBC refused to air is out now, released globally by Zeteo. It documents Israel's destruction of Gaza's hospitals and the killing of Palestinian doctors.
> Rule 28. Medical units exclusively assigned to medical purposes must be respected and protected in all circumstances. They lose their protection if they are being used, outside their humanitarian function, to commit acts harmful to the enemy.
> According to the Commentary on the First Geneva Convention, examples of acts harmful to the enemy include the use of medical units to shelter able-bodied combatants, to store arms or munitions, as a military observation post or as a shield for military action.
I've heard it said that Israel gives some idea of what Germany might have become, if the Nazis had more time and unstinting support from their allies. youtube.com/watch?v=Wrqp6rMEV9โฆ @palestine
๐ด A Pornography of Evil in Israeli school books to indoctrinate children for war.In this powerful and eye-opening interview, renowned Israeli scholar Prof....
@Drop Bear A religion where the first thing that happens when a baby boy is born they whack off a piece of his penis and an old geezer sucks the blood off, how relevant is pornography when that's how you start your life? No wonder these people are fucked up and want to exterminate all their neighbors.
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Welcome @OtterThisWorld88 my mf'n dude! I know people who lived in sail boats. I loved them very much. They're gone now. I also like mechanically inclined huwhytes. ๐ Glad to have you. o/
Wow. The EPA has placed 144 employees on administrative leave after the workers signed a public letter criticizing EPA leadership for disregarding scientific expertise and rolling back environmental and public health protections. This is an unacceptable censorship of scientists!
Klare Bestandsaufnahme von @nadia_z, bislang nur bei Meta:
Der Juli 2025 stellt eine weitere Zรคsur im deutschen Nahost-Diskurs dar.
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Still some time to come over to TU Berlin to talk about "Fascist AI" with us.
(Elevator is broken so follow to posted signs that lead you to another elevator and then the session location)
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For some reason Meta banned me from Facebook, which I have appealed but heard it is wide spread. My primary concern is my 2 pages, Connemara Weather and 3D Printing. I have been pushing Mastodon online a lot more. Time to jump the sinking ship
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Cโest un fรฉtiche et cโest une jรฉrรฉmiade : ยซ lโunion ยป. Pour quoi faire ? On ne sait pas. Lโessentiel est dโรชtre ยซ unis ยป. Tous ensemble vers le talus โ on finira sur le toit mais on sera restรฉs soudรฉs. Le gros bon sens qui tache proteste cependant : ยซ unis, on est plus fort que divisรฉs ; divisรฉs on nโarrivera ร rien ยป. Mais tellement. En matiรจre syndicale, les prodiges de ยซ lโunion ยป sont encore trรจs frais dans nos esprits, et offerts ร (ne pas) รชtre mรฉditรฉs : cโรฉtait en 2023, ร lโoccasion des retraites. Pas dโerreur, on a รฉtรฉ bien unis. Avec la CFDT. La preuve, on nโest pas ยซ arrivรฉs ร rien ยป : puisquโon a mis des millions de personnes dans la rue pendant deux mois. Pour, ร la fin, perdre lโimperdable. Par alignement de ยซ lโunion ยป sur la mollesse politique, lโincomprรฉhension des situations historiques et la nullitรฉ stratรฉgique. Tous ensemble โ dans la dรฉfaite. Attention, pas nโimporte laquelle : une dรฉfaite triomphale, unanimement cรฉlรฉbrรฉe. Par la bourgeoisie โ et sa presse, admirative : voilร de la bonne union, celle qui ne nous fera jamais aucun mal.
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Lโunion pour lโunion pour nโimporte quoi avec nโimporte qui nโest pas viable longtemps, on le sait et cโest une grave erreur de vouloir y croire encore. MAIS la bible info tv qui biberonne ร satiรฉtรฉ les franรงais de discours macronistes assรฉnรฉs au pilon et lโabandon de toute rรฉflexion critique au profit des experts des plateaux avec la ยซ fascination de lโignorant pour le sachant ยป et la flemme dโaller voir ailleurs, ne nous aide pas ร trouver la formule idรฉale, surtout en pleine dรฉliquescence syndicale.. En fait le ยซ problรจme ยป cโest le pouvoir quโil faut conquรฉrir ร tout prix pour espรฉrer renverser un tant soit peu la tendance dans un pays oรน la dรฉcomposition politique arrive ร son apothรฉose.
@Gilles Mercier Dans un pays majoritairement ร droite si ce nโest dโextrรชme droite et une ยซ gauche ยป inconsistante renverser quoi que se soit relรจve de lโexploit olympique !!
Exak, donc pour la tarte renversรฉe on connaรฎt la recette. D'aprรจs Lordon l'anti-fasciste c'est l'ingrรฉdient fondateur, l' agrรฉgateur, mais la recette, la mรฉthode, le pas ร pas, pour rรฉunir tous ceux que le pouvoir tend ร diviser depuis le front populaire, c'est coรข ?
La question est qui veut vraiment renverser la taโฆ.tarte ? Autour de moi je ne vois que des gens qui sโaccommodent trรจs bien de la situation tout en feignant la dรฉplorer. Cโest vrai je suis vraiment mal entourรฉ ! Je ne vois que รงa !!!!
Fortuna ยท Hermann Hesse ยท Glรผck ยท Macht des Schicksals ยท Unter Glรผck verstehe ich heute etwas ganz Objektives, nรคmlich die Ganzheit selbst, das zeitlose Sein.
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ThatOneAnnoyingBro
in reply to ZnatGD • • •Why ask when you can contribute(we, I need to do a project for my portfolio aswell)
What do you say? Next year??
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ZnatGD
in reply to ThatOneAnnoyingBro • • •Combine Masto, PeerTube and Lemmy into one... kind of like Twitter+Reddit+Yt into one app
Microw
in reply to ZnatGD • • •The developers of Fedi software have different philosophies. Some developers are just not interested in implementing and supporting all kinds of AP actors, kinds of media, ways of attaching media etc. Because they want their software to focus on a certain thing.
Others want to implement everything and interconnect with every platform.
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in reply to Microw • • •Hopefully they work more on this.
@fediverse@lemmy.world
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Blaze (he/him)
in reply to ZnatGD • • •Mbin has support for both microblogging and communities (so Twitter and Reddit like): fedia.io/ Maybe that's something that can interest you.
It doesn't seem too popular, probably because the Twitter and Reddit crowd always had a limited overlap.
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in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •This is probably why it's not a focus for developers. If Mbin was some huge success, it would show demand for the feature, and more developers would prioritize it higher.
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it_depends_man
in reply to ZnatGD • • •That IS the built in support.
Yes you are wrong, just keep doing it the way you just successfully did in this. That's the solution.
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ZnatGD
in reply to it_depends_man • • •rglullis
in reply to ZnatGD • • •From Evan Prodromou, co-author of ActivityPub: The Fediverse should be more like the Facebook Platform (lots of client apps using the same social graph) rather than the Apple App Store (a bunch of one-feature apps that have to bootstrap their own social network each time).
The issue here is that most developers and users are still thinking in terms of the siloed networks. We don't need "multiple, separate platforms". We need to get rid of the platforms! We need to build our tools around protocols.
The WWW was incredibly successful because anyone could whip up some HTML and publish a webpage. The "protocol" of structured text alongside with links was simple to understand, any browser could do it. The Social Web should work the same.
Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Free Speech
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ZnatGD
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rglullis
in reply to ZnatGD • • •It looks like that first you need to be able to better articulate what do you mean "federating everywhere", because I can follow a Lemmy community from Mastodon just fine, and you seem to be on Misskey, and we are communicating just fine.
IOW, "federation" is already working.
Perhaps you just mean that you want the UX from misskey to change depending on the source? And you are proposing that this should be done to all software?
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ZnatGD
in reply to rglullis • • •Lemmy -> Misskey works fine. It's Misskey -> Lemmy which is a bit of a problem, because Lemmy communities and Misskey channels are two different things. Misskey channels dont even federate server-to-server.
I respect the developer's choices, but if Misskey is going to implement something like channels, might as well federate them too...
I apologise if i havent been clear with the whole "federating" communities, hope this clears things up...
@fediverse@lemmy.world
rglullis
in reply to ZnatGD • • •ZnatGD
in reply to rglullis • • •@fediverse@lemmy.world
I may not have conveyed my point clearly.
If it was merely a Misskey problem, i wouldnt have made this post, so ill list my likes and problems one by one, i may have been vague with communication:
My likes:
1. Interconnected: i dont need to elaborate too much. One account, to all platforms...
2. Opensource: also not much elaboration.
3. Protocol centric, not platform centric...
My ONLY dislike:
1. Lack of definite communication: Misskey may be my favourite, but it sucks the most when it comes to federating with other instances. There is no upvote system, no favourites system, no saved posts system. I can only reply and send reactions, and those reactions may not even federate properly. Same when i was using Mastodon. There was no downvote system, crosspost, etc. The worst in my opinion is the fact that devs are trying their best to federate with each other but throught different ways. My point is, this discrepancy between platforms calls for standardized system.
I hope i have explained well enough. I apologise if i wasnt clear with this earlier... any solutions to the aforementioned problem?
rglullis
in reply to ZnatGD • • •There is no such thing as "upvote" on ActivityPub. This is an abstraction on top of the "Like" activity. If Misskey UI is geared only towards reactions and doesn't have a way for users to "like" something, this is a Misskey problem, not a Fediverse one.
And what people are trying to explain to you is that this "standardized system" already exists. ActivityStreams is the standard to define a vocabulary, and ActivityPub is the standard that defines what happens when data is sent between different servers.
The issue I am taking with your comment is that it seems that you are expecting developers to start backwards from an unified product vision and then build their way down to the standard. This only works well when you have one single entity controlling everything. It's the "Apple Way" of developing products.
Die4Ever
in reply to ZnatGD • • •I really don't mind having a separate account for Lemmy and Mastodon. It's not pleasant to force different types of content into different website formats, even if the implementation is "ideal".
That said, I am surprised Misskey doesn't allow you to follow @fediverse@lemmy.world as you would follow a user, Mastodon allows this (it's not as good as viewing inside Lemmy but it does work).
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Die4Ever
in reply to ZnatGD • • •Do it! You'll probably find like-minded users. Don't forget PixelFed and Loops too.
Although maybe you could just contribute to Mbin or fork it, cause I feel like it already does all of this?
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Die4Ever
in reply to ZnatGD • • •It makes me mad how many people refused to leave Twitter, or even just diversify to posting on other platforms, even if they're supposed to be left leaning politically...
GamesDoneQuick for example, they always say "trans rights" and yet their only social media account was on Twitter, until they joined Bluesky just 5 months ago and they still post on both. I don't get it. They could've made a Bluesky or Mastodon account years ago, even if they keep posting to Twitter just mirror your posts!
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in reply to ZnatGD • • •fedia.io/
melroy
in reply to Die4Ever • • •Join Mbin
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ZnatGD
in reply to melroy • • •I tried mbin (registered an account for my brother). The UI isnt that bad, UI is actually well-built, i think what scared me was the the different terminologies. On mbin, you have magazines instead of communities, and microblog instead of posts. But it's not that it's bad, youll get used to it.
The disorganised yet connect nature of the fediverse is something we'll have to get used to. It's like how we all can appreciate different cultures from different countries around the world and be able to share and appreciate one another despite differences in culture. The real problem isnt with the Fediverse, it's with how culturally "bland" social media is now...
Ive checked the repo too, but since ive just started with coding, i do not understand anything... โ
โ ill try my best to contribute however i can, really want to see mbin continue the legacy...
@fediverse@lemmy.world...
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melroy
in reply to ZnatGD • • •@mkmusic@torishiro.com we have several first good issues, allowing people to start contributing: github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/issuesโฆ
Of course you can also join our matrix, if you have not already and help others: matrix.to/#/%23mbin-general:meโฆ
Or you can also help with documentation. See docs folder: github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/tree/mโฆ
Or help with translations: hosted.weblate.org/engage/mbinโฆ
There are many ways how people can help and contribute!
MbinOrg/mbin
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ZnatGD
in reply to Die4Ever • • •i just checked your full conversation on your instance (misskey doesnt support edited posts)
Misskey does support following the community, its just not done elegantly. All replies from the community show up on my home page, which isnt great.
For now, ill stick with misskey till i find a worthy contender, just love msky reactions too much (too goofy lol, with sfx and all)
@fediverse@lemmy.world
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Blaze (he/him)
in reply to ZnatGD • • •Good luck. I know you said you were not a fan of the Mbin UI, but they are already halfway there with Microblogging and Communities (maybe videos even? @melroy@kbin.melroy.org @BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de ?)
It might be easier to contribute there than to start from scratch.
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BentiGorlich
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •@Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com @fediverse@lemmy.world @mkmusic@torishiro.com @melroy@kbin.melroy.org
Yes we support basically everything mentioned here. Peertube videos, Lemmy posts and Mastodon / Misskey, etc. (called mircoblogs in the UI)
On the microblog side mbin still has a long way to go to be perfect, right know you just know that it is not the primary focus.
Mbin is written in php together with the smyfony framework. We always welcome new devs and I'll do my best to answer any questions that will arise ๐
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ZnatGD
in reply to Hikurn_Xi • • •I could see why you didnt put it.
This instance is actually really nice, has all the features i need... thanks @admin
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rodneyck
in reply to ZnatGD • • •I have an issue with Fediverse, Lemmy to be exact. The platform is allowing an outside tool that was built for a mod or admin of a community to see votes, how people vote, but it is being exploited by users to spy/dox/harass, gang-up, and use as a tool to exploit other users nefariously. The tool is called Lemvotes. You can access the portal here. Here is a quote from a user (go $fsck yourself @ lemmy.world) who exploits this sharing how to use it with other users;
This tool, imo, should be banned, or the platform to be "patched" to only allow this to work for admins, not users who abuse it.
GitHub - gragorther/votes: A tool to list a post/comment's votes on Lemmy
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rglullis
in reply to rodneyck • • •There is no such thing as a "vote" in ActivityPub/ActivityStreams. This idea of "up/down votes" is just an abstraction of a message saying "Actor A liked B", where B is an Post/Comment (and a post/comment itself just being an abstraction of ActivityStreams objects).
That is to say: there is no way to selectively hide the content a message. If you want federation to work and you want people outside your own server to see your posts, then the server needs to broadcast the messages to anyone listening.
Tools like lemvotes are just exposing this information. There is no point in trying to censor the tool, because this information is available publicly, and any motivated person will be able to track this information.
If you are concerned about what people think of your "likes" and "dislikes", then do not use a public social media service and only communicate with provably secure communication tools.
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in reply to rodneyck • • •I think this is less a problem of "nefarious bad actors" and more a problem of expectations. Honestly, I agree with the quoted comment: I think they should be visible all the time, like they already are on Mbin. I think it would help change the way people think about votes so that they don't expect Reddit-style anonymous votes and instead it's a more public Facebook/Twitter-style like system.
If you really want private votes, Piefed has feature that lets you anonymize your votes, but a determined bad actor could still deanonymize you. I think it's better to change expectations than to try to massage a fundamentally public platform into having private votes, but it's good there's an option for people since it's so highly requested.
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confuser
in reply to ZnatGD • • •I think what will eventually happen is much like what happened to email, it too was very fragmented feeling early on but more and more adopted it and more servers kept developing and popping up and then at some point more service providers became more similar than alike and then it became what it is now.
The tricky part is that the concept and usefulness of a federated network mostly only grows in the long run and looks like its not going anywhere in the short term much like email and that is always what makes people question its efficacy.
Participation in any and all forms is what establishes it more and more.
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ZnatGD
in reply to confuser • • •@fediverse@lemmy.world
Hopefully it's heading for that direction too.
I cant really complain now after seeing all of your valid points.
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Blaze (he/him)
in reply to 3dcadmin • • •What about just pointing them to feddit.uk/ , with getvoyager.app/ for an app?
Lemmy.ca got a lot of new joiners following the boycottUSA movement in February
Voyager for Lemmy
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in reply to 3dcadmin • • •i think that not the problem with the fediverse, but the problem with how wehave been cultured so far. We got the concept of emails, we should get used to this soon too...
@fediverse@lemmy.world
3dcadmin
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ZnatGD
in reply to 3dcadmin • • •its 2025, and people still dont know how to use email?! And they are using the internet?!!! Its clearly not the fediverse's fault...
My parents barely know how to use a computer, let alone use social media. And they STILL understand how email works! Our family grew up with email.
I am very much worried about the future of the tech world, if this continues...
Sorry to appear disrespectful to you, i truly understand what you're saying. But, i truly dont get people like them...
@fediverse@lemmy.world
3dcadmin
in reply to ZnatGD • • •3dcadmin
in reply to ZnatGD • • •ZnatGD
in reply to 3dcadmin • • •i hope the phones do not fall under the custody of these people...
@fediverse@lemmy.world