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On 9 July 2025, leading scientists and experts in Earth observation will gather in Prague, Czechia, for a pivotal moment in Earth science – to delve into and debate the strengths of the two finalist candidate satellite missions, CAIRT and WIVERN, as they compete to be selected as ESA’s eleventh Earth Explorer.
The Guardian: Politicians are retreating from net zero because they think the public doesn’t care. But they’re wrong | Rebecca Willis theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
Our research shows people are strongly in favour of measures to tackle the climate crisis. They just need to be listened to, says professor of energy and climate governance Rebecca Willis
we received an achievement of excellence candidacy from SF
What does it mean though?
That downloading has been so frequent that we are selected among the few projects that make money for sourceforge
So many downloads and so few users showing up here to speak of issues and problems
1 We are very good, there are no issues, no bugs, no questions, everything works flawlessly
2 We are so bad they don't bother even asking .. no desktops, no guis, no graphic installation, no auto selection of efi/bios disk, no click and install/uninstall software, what good are we. We know the rest works, what is important and what true sys-admins (every user should be in unix/linux) is working ... so who cares, this is what was intended. Cry babies in need of gui tricks were never a target group here.
Highest award candidacy from SF after 4 years but no mention in Distrowatch
Once submitted to DW or paid minimal ad to be listed the blackmail for more money for positive review begins, as Obarun and other good distros found out. So consciously we have distanced ourselves from even sending a free email telling them we exist.
We are not marketing anything, no call for funding, no "personas" to hire
We share the software we use
Anyone who doesn't get the simple picture and minimal commitment to this will never like joborun even if it was called Alice in Wonderland Linux .. it is joborun ... ugly name but it is what it is
J O B O RUN ....heeeee....hawwwww....!!!! Hey, maybe "moonshine linux" would be appropriate ...
Download joborun linux for free. Like Arch built from ground up with runit. Arch as it was meant to be, simple, fast, secure, cutting edge - without the systemd labyrinth to choke it
Utilizing runit (default) init and service supervision…
1) I have the jobbot chroot set up. Outside the chroot is a mix of joborun and artix which I'm really embarrassed about. Nextcloud seems to need ipv6. Is there a good solution to this?
2) I don't need to more than update-jobo-repos, right? I don't need to replace the chroot with the new jobbot image? BTW, Any post to reddit should be mirrored here. I gave up on reddit when we moved here. The new images post really needs to be here.
3) eudev didn't build at first. Then I saw the error: missing dependency: linux6.6-headers
4) bash didn't build for me. No target specified error or something like that. Tried mkpkg and makepkg
5) Tried to build gcc. After 26 hours I aborted it as it was getting a lot of error messages. Over 4000
Joborun should be submitted to distrowatch. If you guys won't do it, can I?
Never ask for help but slog it out alone? You might tell yourself it's noble, but there is a cost. What psychological reasons drive your over independence?
1 It doesn't matter whether the chroot is in RHEL it will build the same Artix Arch Manjaro ... no difference, just pid1 is different, all else is the same. Whether openrc syvinit dinit runit s6 manages services doesn't affect anything, the services are the same. What changes is that when logind is called elogind responds through dbus, instead of consolekit2 in obarun. In this respect spark linux with sinit/ssm is more honest, 99% arch just switching init and services through ssm. Artix wants to pretend it is a distro by rebuilding 100% arch pkgs. At least obarun has a design of difference, no systemd boot, no systemd udev, no systemd logind, and packages built specifically without systemd.
2 No the new image is just updated pkgs so you get the same as running pkg -Suy in chroot, Most of the essential scripts in chroot are included in the jobbot pkgs so if there would be a change you get that replaced as well. /usr/local/bin/**
3 Not that it would make any difference but yes deps was changed to linux-headers PK*D linux6.6-headers but since linux-api-headers is 5.15 eudev is best built with it as well. I passed the change and rebuild it
4 Bash took a long while in this last build and there has always been a test that fails so what to do is after it fails the test makepkg -e --nocheck which finishes up fast as it uses everything compiled already and skips the tests The theory is that test data that succeeded are incorporated in the build while makepkg -f --nocheck will not run tests at all. There are a few pkgs that work this way, many of them because they assume a dbus system is running and trying to use dbus to complete the test ... so Bleep-bloop ... some fail for more dangerous reasons, so let them fail.
5 grep -i ipv6 /src/pkg/job//PKGBUILD reveals ALL packages where ipv6 is disabled. For kernel it is a bit more complicated as you have to edit config and switch all the =n into =y Also in default boot grub.cfg remove the tag that says disable ipv6 Then you have ipv6 The interesting part is running a vm inside joborun of a system that utilizes ipv6 and it gets an ipv6 address, because of use of ipv6 tunnel over ipv4 And that is good enough reason to chop the head of the hydra even knowing that it can still prop up another.
6 I wish you had told me before you erase all the work of the 26hrs .. makepkg -e --nocheck I don't know why you had tests fail though, did you build in the order of linux-api-headers --- glibc binutils ... gcc The last rebuild we did took nearly 40hrs but no tests failed. Building without tests builds fine and in a few hours .. but yes, this is the pkg from hell but we can't live without it Imagine that when it is upgraded to new version and glibc is nearly always upgraded at the same time that whole chain of build tools is built twice On the last run we went wild, we rebuilt another sequence and most of the pkgs in chroot optimized for our build machine, we gave the pkgrel 001 instead of 01 to separate them. Not a spec of difference in speed that we could observe, little difference if any, so never again.
guilty guilty ... of same diagnosis Getting lost on a trip and never asking for directions just rely on maps and signs 😀 Yes yes yes!
There is a sense of autonomy and DIY in some of us, we can't escape it, it is part of who we are. Not all characteristics of a personality need to change and receive therapy, shrinks can go ... .. ff... @@ ..
And fuck the easy way and the proven popular way .... .... like Sid said, I did it MOY WAY!!! (sinatra sid vicious parody)
FUCK IBM .... I didn't say it all day and I was feeling nauseous
Never ask for help but slog it out alone? You might tell yourself it's noble, but there is a cost. What psychological reasons drive your over independence?
I have done it! All that's left of Artix is openrc while I take a break and figure out which init I should be using.
OS: joborun linux x86_64 Host: MS-7721 (6.0) Kernel: Linux 5.15.184-01 Shell: zsh 5.9 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) X4 860K Quad Core (4) @ 3.70 GHz GPU: AMD Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series Memory: 1.02 GiB / 31.31 GiB (3%) Disk (/): 494.40 GiB / 928.51 GiB (53%) - btrfs
Some things that I've learned:
1) Some packages need/like to be installed together: pkg -S linux, mkinitcpio, eudev, libeudev, base, kmod or pkg -S cryptsetup gnupg gpgme libassuan libgcrypt libgpg-error pacman rpcbind.
2) ./pacman-static is very helpful. timeshift was essential. pacopts was the cleanup hitter! Of course, pkg -Q identifies joborun packages very easily with the 01, 02.03 extensions. Thank you for that!
3) Nextcloud works well on joborun! I had to disable ipv6 on one nextcloud config file. Dovecot and ningx both needed to have ipv6 disabled and so ipv6.disable=1 is in force. Not surprisingly, nextcloud is much zippier now than before.
4) I learned more about systemd than I ever wanted to. /usr/lib/sysusers.d was the bane of the conversion. Artix versions were esysusers and etmpfiles. systemd tentacles everywhere. Even so, we have deal with opensysusers, opentmpfiles, udev, libudev among other systemd parts. It's exhausting.
pacopts is a good tool when trying to clean up between repository sources, unfortunately it brings in a chain of obarun/skarnet pkgs but in total it is a small load.
pacopts origin jobextra
for example will go through the list of jobextr ( pacman -Sl jobextra) see whether any are installed and check if they are authentic against the jobextra.db or not and offer to replace them with the originals. so if you have liburing-2.11-1 even though 2.11-01 will not replace it pacopts will pick-it up
also on cache .zst is arch or artix, .xz is obarun .lz is joborun (except for very few old pkgs still on .xz)
Another trick is to see what you have in pacman -Qo /usr/lib/systemd/system/*
As far as I know none of our pkgs have anything there, so most likely what you find there is another source's pkg which has service files for systemd srored there.
DO ask when you get stuck on anything, discussion here encourages other people to attempt similar things, and that is good because we all learn tricks from one another. It is like libertarian school 😀
DO ask when you get stuck on anything, discussion here encourages other people to attempt similar things, and that is good because we all learn tricks from one another. It is like libertarian school 😀
Will do. Some packages built fine in the jobbot chroot. Some did not. Is there a generic troubleshooting guideline?
We used to make notes of when some tests failed to run without tests/check but without feedback from users we stopped being consistent. What is generic as procedure is:
makepkg --> some tests fail makepkg -e --nocheck
there have been instances where a valid gpg signature is not found in the default pacman server, either server is down or not up to date, in this case either search other servers or risk and run --skippgpcheck and especially when recently you have run other sw with the same key and it worked or rebuilt the same .. If it is gnu sw ... they are known to be a mess so don't worry about them .. unfortunately we are on gnu linux. If you are within US borders, maybe CDN as well, you may be oK but outside their turf things (networked gnu servers) tend to be neglected. Arch building servers are US based so whet they see is one thing, what the rest of the world sees is another, when it comes to gnu. Worst of all is they don't give a shit .. because they are GNU
One problematic exception to building we are investigating is e2fsprogs and its fuse byproduct. It compiles fine all the way and when it gets to the stage of building documentation it fails to find language modules of the documents it supposedly were built. The problem was narrowed down to using gettext, and using arch gettext instead, produced those modules. The difference between our gettext and their gettext is using our own minimalist build of emacs (emacs-git) which is more recent than arch but is minalistic not full of plugins and guis, so better ;) We tebuilt emacs-git in case there was a bug in previous session tested emacs to make sure it works well, then rebuilt gettext 2-3 times, same problem. So for now we let the e2fsprogs go by using arch/gettext and this is the 1st time we have done such a thing in 5 years. All the research we have done on this ends in dead ends and same problem. We can''t find specific documentation for those modules, and the error comes up for 4-5 languages, is it specific to them or the builder quits after the 5th error?
It is pretty much the same as the last rc I haven't seen anything worth talking about. As a major release it is build on wlroots19 and the most notable change was that split colors on title bar 😀
% more /usr/share/doc/labwc/NEWS.md
<br />- Add client `lab-sensible-terminal` and add a `Terminal` entry to the default
root-menu @johanmalm [#2877]
- Enhance `-v|--version` option by adding feature flags like `+xwayland -rsvg`.
@Consolatis [#2873]
- Send drm leases to XWayland clients. This requires XWayland >= 21.1.9.
@Consolatis [#553] [#2873]
- Add `<windowRule iconPriority="client|server">`. @Consolatis @tokyo4j [#2839]
- Support theme colors defined by X11-color-names and '#rgb' syntax @jlindgren90
[#2686]
- Support basic vertical titlebar gradients and the additional theme options
listed below. @jlindgren90 [#2686]
The problem with gettext encountered when building e2fs-progs first then icewm then today on mercurial. Because gettext needs dbus installed to build, and since dbus is always on Arch base not on out building base, and since we opted to build dbus recently with selinux enabled, libselinux must be present when using gettext to build. So we are adding it as a running dependency but make a note of it before -03 comes out if you are building something requiring gettext.
Why is dbus so necessary in building documents for software translated in languages or other texts internationalized ... your guess is as bad as mine ! Freaking snitch crawls everywhere
The cost of breaking things down to elements and not being as sloppy as Arch
Last night I got a -testing batch of upgrades to do but was too late to even start, so saved the list and started today. Before starting I run the script that picks up Arch upgrades again and compared to see what has come up more. Mercurial and curl. Because everything else was on -testing and mercurial was stable I wondered whether they actually build on a stable environment or on -testing from last night? So yes, when building something that is to bypass testing and be placed straight to stable they build on a stable environment, even though a bunch (curl libxml2) were upgraded on testing.
They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, this dog keeps learning and there is so much more and so little time left ...
Well done! It's like finding a needle in a haystack. Now I'm going to rebuild gettext and then build e2fsprogs. I'm falling behind in my building. I'm giving up on gcc for now. My best success was the first try and now I really wished that I didn't immediately wipe it clean.
Those arch guys will do anything to get a package to compile. I see trouble ahead...
They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, this dog keeps learning and there is so much more and so little time left ...
just add depends=(...libselinux ..) on the list, the build remains the same, so when gettext is installed to build something else libselinux is added as dependency.
There is curl libxml2 ffmpeg libplacebo apparmor .... vulkan-hea .. vulkan-.. ... mercurial all lined up for upgrading in case you want to wait.
Email from HP has just landed in my inbox at work, trumpeting their acquisition of Juniper. Apparently, it's all about "creating the industry's first secure, AI-native network purpose-built with AI and for AI to deliver exceptional end user and operator experiences"...
#Viena és la ciutat amb el parc d’#habitatge públic més gran d’Europa.
El preu del lloguer està al voltant de 8 euros el metre quadrat, la meitat que a #Barcelona.
El truc: més del 40% del parc d’habitatge és públic o en #cooperativa i de lloguer. Aquí no arriba a l'1%...
Ens mostren quin és el camí. Per això és tan important la feina de @sostrecivic per demostrar que hi ha una tercera via en política d'habitatge no especulativa ni depenent de qui governa.
Why was Galileo put on trial for believing the sun was the center of our solar system (heliocentrism)? This video looks at Renaissance science, Copernicus, G...
@prosario2000, it's correct that Galileo wasn't tortured by the inquisition, but it would have been ocurred if he had continued with his theory. At least Galileo was FORGIVEN the heresy by the church in 1992, almost 500 years later
The YAF announced a large-scale missile and drone attack on several Israeli targets on 7 July, hours after a series of heavy Israeli airstrikes on Yemen overnight.
“In response to this aggression, and in continued support of the oppressed Palestinian people, the Missile Force and the Air Force of the Yemeni Armed Forces carried out a joint precision military operation involving eleven missiles and drones,” the YAF said.
Aujourd’hui, ce long parcours n’est plus nécessaire. La majorité des#Allemands s’est convertie au #sionisme, se passant de la circoncision ou de toute démarche religieuse. Une partie de la «gauche» allemande est composée d’hommes en quête d’une identité qu’ils ont su trouver dans l’image d’ #Israël. Ils parlent comme Noa Tishby, s’enveloppent dans des drapeaux de l’Etat israélien ou de son armée, assistent à des spectacles de danses folkloriques pour fêter les relations diplomatiques, et sauvent les juifs de «l’antisémitisme».
Selon des données publiées dans le magazine israélien berlinois Spitz (article supprimé par la suite), plus de la moitié des plaintes pour actes antisémites en Allemagne proviennent par exemple d’Allemands chrétiens, dont les grands-parents étaient nazis, qui se disent agressés par des juifs manifestant contre Israël. Il semblerait que les petits-enfants de #nazis sont très sensibles aux «attaques antisémites» censées les viser, surtout si elles viennent de juifs ou d’Israéliens. Cela blesse leurs sentiments et trouble leur identité. Le journaliste d’Haaretz Itay Mashiach, qui a enquêté sur les chiffres prétendument élevés de l’ #antisémitisme en #Allemagne, a découvert qu’ils sont largement manipulés, sans transparence, souvent basés sur des échanges de mails avec une seule personne – chaque mail étant compté comme un «incident antisémite».
Autre exemple : le professeur d’histoire Moshe Zimmermann a déclaré devant le parlement du Land de Saxe que la leçon tirée de la Shoah se devait d’être universelle – et qu’elle serait donc valable aussi pour Israël. L’Office fédéral de surveillance de l’antisémitisme a décidé que cette déclaration équivalait à comparer Israël au régime nazi, et l’a classé comme «incident antisémite». Comme ces institutions sont conscientes du fait qu’elles se ridiculisent, elles n’ont pas précisé qu’il s’agissait d’un juif israélien (issu d’une famille de survivants de la Shoah allemande) mais le décrivent comme un simple «orateur». C’est aussi le cas pour tout juif ayant manifesté contre le génocide à Gaza depuis le 7 octobre avec une pancarte s’identifiant comme tel: tous les membres de l’organisation Jüdische Stimme (Voix Juive pour la Paix) et d’autres non affiliés ont été arrêtés et ont fait l’objet d’accusations (d’incitation ou d’usage de symboles inconstitutionnels) qui ont par la suite été levées. J’ai moi-même été arrêtée cinq fois. Ces cas nourrissent les statistiques des «incidents antisémites en #Allemagne».
Iris Hefetz publié en hébreu le 30 juin 2025 sur le site de la revue «Mekomit» et repris par le collectif «Tsedek».
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Actually reading, and enjoying, this book "Nice white ladies: The truth about white supremacy. Our role in it. And how can we help to dismantle it" by Jesse Daniels.
Honestly I am 50 years old and NOW I'm learning about black,Latin, first nation women oppression (basically in the US) and our role in colonialism. It's never to late to learn and change. #mastodonbooks #dismantlewhitesupremacy #womensrights
"TURQUIE / KURDISTAN – Lors d’un raid policier mené au domicile d’un couple kurde du district de Van / Saray, la police a battu Nevzat Hamzaoğulları et menacé de mort son épouse. Une descente a été menée hier matin dans le quartier de Serav (Saray) à Wan, au domicile du couple Gülçin et
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) reported that, during the past night (Sunday), approximately 20 fighter jets conducted strikes against targets belonging to the Houthi regime in the ports of Al Hudaydah, Ras Isa, Salif, and at the Ras Kanatib power station, employing over 50 munitions.
📢 Yemeni Armed Forces announced that they had launched a joint military operation with 11 missiles and drones targeting Ben Gurion Airport (TLV), Ashdod Airport, Ashdod Port, Ashkelon power station, and Eilat Port in response to Israeli attacks on #yemen and in continued support of #gaza
Estoy convencido de que en el futuro veremos el actual consenso europeo sobre la #inmigración de la misma manera que vemos hoy el consenso europeo sobre la austeridad en 2011. Y, como ahora, el sufrimiento que vemos y veremos no habrá servido para nada en absoluto
Una investigación de varios medios, entre ellos EL PAÍS, revela que la agencia europea de fronteras facilitó a la entidad policial información indiscriminada de miles de personas a partir de entrevistas sin garantías a los recién llegados a Europa
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Amazing history of the "urinary leash" on women. Employers didn't have to legally supply a separate Ladies Loo until 1992. That's only 33 years ago! And after all those years of campaigning, it was too much for the Incels who control society, they are happy to use "tranz" as a method to re-apply the urinary leash. Back to the home, you uppity sluts! (One of the slogans the Troons used to shout at us was "Go Home")! wash.leeds.ac.uk/womens-rights…
To get it to work I did, fine to package it for arch-like linux I haven't figured out yet. Other than what is on dist what else should be packaged, should tests be run and included, examples, docs, ...
And that example counter, should it be made and included in the pkg as sample instead of reading the web page and making it?
The unfortunate part of packaging it is having to rename it to something else as kitty and kitten are used by this crappy go terminal tty shell terminfo pkg.
I followed and hoped for stability and development of gnunet for many years .. I gave up, it could never escape its small group of peers of contributors into a mass used alternative.
Still the idea of it alone is very liberating and revealing, of how hard it is to escape corporate net dictatorship
@jaystephens Kitten’s pretty much designed to run either on a tiny VPS or a single board computer. Is yours shared hosting? If it’s a VPS, all you have to do is install Kitten and then kitten deploy <https url of app’s git repo>. Catalyst, the Small Web hosting solution will eventually make this seamless.
One of the best things about NA.S is that lots of us love music.
I may not like this or that genre, but when I see people posting music they love, I know they're going to find others that do as well and bond over it.
Could wax poetic about music forever. I'll leave it at, people like music and that's cool.
Two-thirds of votes cast by MEPs later this week will be required to force the President and the Commissioners to resign, which has happened only once in EU's history
Sí, esto son imágenes (el 3er video) de la basura israeli #iofcowards VIOLANDO a prisioneros palestinos. Ya no se que decir más. La verdad. Me entran ganas de gritar pero también de apedrear la embajada de estos ZioMonstruos. #deathtotheidf #hatehatetheiof #fuckisrael #iofterrorists
Hoy y mañana en #Gijón #Xixón, estas jornadas tan chulas sobre/con gente joven que lee mucho. Mañana martes, a las 12:30, conversaré con Rotar, un chaval que se ha leído #LasRedesSonNuestras y tiene objeciones que hacerme xD pezlinterna.com/
Wen hat das israelische Militär getroffen, als sie das Evin Gefängnis im Iran angegriffen haben?
Bisher war von über 70 Toten die Rede. Gefangene, Besucher, Angestellte.
Elia Ayoub verweist auf einen neuen NYT-Artikel, in dem erwähnt wird dass das israelische Militär, der Flügel bombardiert hat, in dem die trans Gefangenen untergebracht waren. Etwa 100 trans Personen. Ihr Schicksal ist unklar, Behörden vermuten aber dass sie tot sind. 😰🤬
Authorities referring to it as “their section" implies these are individuals who are recognised by the state as transgender. Recognition in Iran requires gender-affirming surgery, of which there have been order-of-magnitude a thousand in the country. But then 100 transgender inmates out of that number, in a single prison, when being ‘officially' transgender is not by and of itself a reason for a prison term, seems like an extreme proportion.
Are these individuals who were in prison on account of being recognised (by the state) as being transgender, but being so 'illegally' because they have not had/consented to/... surgery? I.e., 'recognised unrecognised transgender’ (from the perspective of the Iranian authorities)?
@bifouba Mein Wissen über die Regularien im Iran ist zu lückenhaft. Lass mich spekulieren. Eine Anerkennung als "das andere Geschlecht" mit Operation ist möglich, aber nicht leicht und nicht für jeden. Gendernonforming zu sein, bspw weil man die OP nicht hat könnte man in dem zshg auch als transgender bringen, es könnten sich darunter auch andere queere Menschen verbergen.
@bifouba Und ich kann mir vorstellen, dass es in Evin eine zentrale Unterbringung gibt, eben weil man weiss dass man sie separat unterbringen will, also rüstet man ein Gefängnis dafür um, und verlegt alle betreffenden aus dem ganzen Land dahin.
@bifouba Hab mal ein bisschen dazu gesucht. Gibt mehrere Quellen dass der Flügel getroffen wurden wo das Haftkrankenhaus drin ist und auch der Bereich für trans Gefangene. Das es diesen gibt lässt sich in dem gruseligen Artikel darüber finden. iranwire.com/en/features/70267…
Scheint auch in die Richtung zu deuten, dass es bei der aktuellen Meldung möglicherweise eher um einen allgemeineren LBQTI+ Bereich geht und die Implikation, dass es um trans Gefangene im speziellen bzw. ausschließlich geht, evtl. ein Missverständnis oder Übersetzungsfehler ist.
Nicht, dass es irgendeinen Unterschied bei der Bewertung macht! Ich hatte mich nur über die Zahlen gewundert…
@bifouba Schwer das alles richtig einzuschätzen, mit so spärlichen Informationen. Und ja, ein Unterschied machts letztlich nicht. So oder so ein grausames Kriegsverbrechen.
It's a win-win for them now, because in order to undo the damage we'd have to tear down entirely one of the three branches of government. Meanwhile, they're destroying the other two.
Unha serie de talleres gratuítos de introdución a diferentes ferramentas ou proxectos libres que nos gustan en ESF (Enxeñería Sen Fronteiras Galicia). Non é necesario ter coñecemento sobre a materia a tratar, son todos talleres introdutorios.
Sí, esto son imágenes (el 3er video) de la basura israeli #iofcowards VIOLANDO a prisioneros palestinos. Ya no se que decir más. La verdad. Me entran ganas de gritar pero también de apedrear la embajada de estos ZioMonstruos. #deathtotheidf #hatehatetheiof #fuckisrael #iofterrorists
A los que hayan dejado estos envases en el Parque Natural del Lago de Sanabria, iros a la mierda y aprended primero a vivir en sociedad y respetando al prójimo y al entorno. Mientras tanto no merecéis salir de vuestro zulo de hormigón. #Sanabria
Antiwar News with Dave DeCamp, 07/07/25: Israel Wants US Side Deal on Gaza Truce, IDF Kills 288 in Gaza Over Three Days, and More youtube.com/watch?v=tHT2CMY0Ir…
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🇵🇸 🚀 La nostra companya de Yala Nafarroa i de la RESCOP Lidón Soriano, elegida per a llançar el "chupinazo" de San Fermín 2025, es bota la prohibició de l'Ajuntament d'Iruña-Pamplona de no dir cap altre missatge que no siga de San Fermín per cridar:
All this talk of the fall of "democracy" in the US and the UK reminds me of David Graeber's article, "There never was a West".
These countries never were democracies. The current systems of government in these countries were specifically designed to make sure that "the people" do not have power. It's taken years of propaganda to usurp the meaning of the word, and persuade people that being ruled by a clique of politians is democracy.
It's just becoming very obvious now that this political clique never cared much for what the people want.
If they can't persuade or distract us, if our voices of dissent get too loud, then the police and the prisons have always been there waiting for us.
In a recent interview with the Financial Times, Steve Bannon declared China to be Donald Trump’s “real threat,” invoking what he called the “Edwardian view of geopolitics as a ‘world island,’ in which the power that dominates Eurasia controls the glo…
A reputable tile shop with Italian tiles can offer expert advice. If samples are available, test them in your space to see what clicks.
Stepping into a tile shop, you're greeted by a stunning array of Italian tiles, but the choice between ceramic and porcelain can feel daunting. Both are crafted from clay and boast impressive designs, but they're built for different purposes. Italian tiles are renowned for their quality and style, so understanding the differences is crucial for your project. Here's a clear guide to help you choose.
Material Matters
Both ceramic and porcelain tiles start with clay, but porcelain uses a finer, denser variety, fired at higher temperatures. This results in a tougher, less porous tile that's ideal for challenging environments.
Ceramic tiles are softer, more absorbent, and easier to cut, making them great for indoor walls or floors with minimal traffic.
If you're picking Italian tiles for a high-moisture area like a bathroom or a busy kitchen, porcelain's durability is key. For a decorative wall or a quiet space, ceramic often works well.
Style and Design
A well-stocked tile shop with Italian tiles offers a range of aesthetics—sleek marble, rustic wood, bold patterns, or minimalist textures. Porcelain often delivers sharper, more precise finishes, especially with rectified tiles that allow for tight grout lines and a modern look.
Ceramic shines in artistic, hand-painted designs, perfect for striking backsplashes or accent walls. It's less suited for heavy-use or outdoor spaces.
For a polished, seamless floor, porcelain's the choice. For a creative, custom look, ceramic takes the lead.
Durability Over Time
Porcelain is the sturdier option, resisting water, stains, and heavy wear. It's perfect for patios, commercial spaces, or high-traffic kitchens.
Ceramic holds up in gentler settings but is more prone to chipping or moisture absorption, making it better for low-traffic areas like a bedroom or bathroom wall.
Italian tiles, whether ceramic or porcelain, are built to last, but their longevity depends on where they're used.
Cost and Installation
Porcelain typically carries a higher price tag due to its density and the specialized tools needed for cutting, which can also increase installation costs.
Ceramic is lighter and easier to work with, making it a budget-friendly option for DIY projects or smaller installations like walls.
Your tile shop can provide a cost breakdown to help you balance price with performance for your space.
Maintenance Made Easy
Both Italian tiles are simple to clean—sweep or mop, and you're done. Porcelain's low porosity makes it more stain-resistant, ideal for spill-prone areas like kitchens.
Ceramic requires a bit more care with grout lines in wet spaces and is more likely to chip if something heavy drops.
Finding Your Fit
Consider your needs: Where are the tiles going? How much wear will they take? Are you prioritizing style or strength?
A reputable tile shop with Italian tiles can offer expert advice. If samples are available, test them in your space to see what clicks.
Ceramic and porcelain both deliver beauty, but only one's right for your project. Choose wisely, and your tiles will shine for years.
Ben Cohen is one of the founding members of Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream. He was arrested just last month for interrupting a Senate hearing on U.S. aid to Israel – calling out what he says is the genocide of children in Gaza.
Reprinted with permission from Greg Mitchell’s newsletter Oppenheimer: From Hiroshima to Hollywood. Last week, in exploring major new pieces at The Atlantic and The New Yorker, I observed that coverage related to the 80th anniversary of the dawn of t…
Very early #OnThisDay, 7 Jul 1944 Krystyna Skarbek parachutes into France to work as a Special Operations Executive (SOE) agent. The British SOE worked with resistance fighters across German-occupied Europe.
Skarbek had been the first woman to be an SOE agent when she'd previously been sent to Hungary and Poland in 1939-41.
If your civilization has to present agents as examples of resistance against the nazis, this can say a lot about your countries and civilization. And you write on your profile: "Every day women have, and are, making history." As we all know agents are everyday people...
@prolrage I don't understand your reply. Poland doesn't "have to" present agents as an example of resistance to nazi Germany, they have lots of examples of civilian and military resistance against the Nazis. And: SOE agents from the occupied countries (Poland, France, Norway) were certainly examples of exceptionally brave people who on their own initiative risked torture and death to inflict sometimes large damage to the nazi regimes. 1/2
@dagh So, just a short trip in history. You can see multiple female names in Poland. Participating in popular guerrilla units. They didn't need to be agents of this dirty cooperation with the bastards of SOE. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Arm…
So, what was SOE? Maybe in Europe, after a lot of brainwash we can say, you believe that SOE was a unit to help defeat nazis. But taking a conservative approach: "British intervention in Greece was neither a heroic act to defend freedom nor a dark conspiracy to suppress it; it was a reflection of underlying British priorities without consideration of the consequences." ekathimerini.com/culture/12495…
Taking on account the same country we can see this tool of british imperialism to push for a civil war - "to stop the communist expansion". During the Resistance occupation the popular guerrilla of EAM-ELAS was waiting for arms from SOE... still waits. December 44 for Athens: "Winston Churchill soon directed British units to resist: “Do not hesitate to act as if you were in a conquered city where a local rebellion is in progress.”" Then it fueled the civil war and finally gave the occupation to US. claremontreviewofbooks.com/dig…
When you present agent, I will present these wonderful women of the countryside who had their own units... alt.gr/afieroma-stis-antartiss…
The history of the secret services is, by its very nature, a fascinating subject. In the “civilized” world, their archives are declassified and turned over to researchers, offering crucial missing historical puzzle pieces.
@prolrage @dagh Thank you for the link to the Polish guerilla units: we'll add that to the reading list (we also have a book about women in the Italian resistance to read).
Your antagonistic and aggressive tone, however, can get in the sea.
@prolrage @dagh Also, your own sources point out that the Home Army in Poland could be deeply antisemitic so perhaps most resistance armies were bastards? Or are you just avoiding that bit of the truth?
@prolrage Late answer, sorry. I understand your perspective now. My perspective is Norwegian. My impression is that people that were frustrated with the lack of organised resistance during and after the german invasion went to the allied country that was easiest to get to and got whatever training they could get there. For people in Finnmark that was Soviet, for the rest of Norway it was UK. Ideology was less important as long as they could get training and go back and fight. 1/2
@prolrage The SOE agents usually cooperated closely with civilians. Thousands of civilians risked their lives to support the work of the SOE agents and many of their actions directly benefitted the civilian population, e.g. blowing up German administrative centers used to force civilians into German labour. However the SOE's choice of targets was often criticised by the local resistance, especially when the Germans burned down entire villages for collaboration with SOE. 2/2
Οι Ευρωπαίοι έχουν αντιστασιακούς και (ιδιαίτερα γυναίκες) αντιστασιακές μετρημένες. Φάγανε το ναζισμό και την κατοχή άκαπνα και κυρίως χωρίς τον ρατσισμό που αντιμετώπιζαν οι Βαλκάνιοι/ες. Ανεβάζουν κάτι ποστ σαν αυτό και με ξύνει το χέρι να βάλω καμιά 100 link με τις γυναικάρες του ΕΑΜ-ΕΛΑΣ που ούτε πρακτόρισσες ήταν, ούτε αστές. mstdn.social/@CarveHerName/114…
Γυναίκες του μόχθου που έφτιαξαν ένοπλα αυτόνομα σώματα και στον ΕΛΑΣ και στο ΔΣΕ. Ξέχωρα από τη δουλειά που έκαναν στα μετόπισθεν γιατί ήταν και αντάρτισσες και μανάδες, σύζυγοι, αδερφές, αγρότισσες, εργάτριες, τα πάντα όλα. Ό, τι πιο θαρραλέο πέρασε από αυτό τον πλανήτη και το πάτησαν οι Εγγλέζοι με τις ευλογίες της καπιταλιστικής Ευρώπης και των ΗΠΑ και της "σοσιαλιστικής" ΕΣΣΔ.
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Very early #OnThisDay, 7 Jul 1944 Krystyna Skarbek parachutes into France to work as a Special Operations Executive (SOE) agent. The British SOE worked with resistance fighters across German-occupied Europe.
Alors que François Bayrou doit présenter ses pistes pour réaliser 40 milliards d'euros d'économies le 15 juillet, la désindexation des prestations sociales de l'inflation est régulièrement citée comme l'un des moyens pour limiter les dépenses.
Les démocrates sont de gros fils de pute tout comme les trumpistes. Le problème de fond est la mentalité étatsunienne elle-même.
Les Etats-Unis sont le premier producteur de pétrole et de gaz (roi des fossiles), représentent un tiers des dépenses de consommation mondiale (roi du consumérisme) et sont parmi les nations plus émettrices par personne (roi des émissions). Mais quand on demande aux Américains s’ils sont satisfaits de leur vie, ils répondent de la même manière que les Européens (où l’on émet deux fois moins par personne). Herman Daly le disait très simplement : soit nous cherchons à « garantir une vie bonne pour tous » soit nous continuons à « maximiser le niveau de consommation de ressources pour une petite minorité de la génération actuelle, et laisser les coûts se répercuter sur les pauvres, le futur et les autres espèces ». Varun Sivaram a choisi son chemin.
We’re calling for a Florida boycott over the inhumane “Alligator Alcatraz” detention site. Cancel your family vacation and choose a different destination.
Florida brings in over $127 billion a year from tourism, nearly 8% of its economy and it relies on your vacation dollars. Just like the Tesla boycott, withhold your money. Don’t fund cruelty.
If we stick together as a resistance, you’d be surprised how much power we hold. Remember: One thing we can control is where our money goes and who benefits from it.
That place is a joke compared to the cop cities and megaprisons that have been expanding this entire time. They put it out there as a feint so we can keep thinking of our current dystopian police state as relatively "normal".
Brique essentielle de la Grande accélération, incarnation du paradoxe du développement, la clim n’est pas une simple conséquence du problème, elle en est le point nodal, le distillat. Mais cette histoire n’est pas que matérielle. La climatisation irrigue aussi les raisonnements que nous tenons sur le monde.
Ongoing settlement expansion in occupied #Jerusalem is an attempt to forcefully Judaize the city. Israel approves the construction of 493 new settlement units in Jerusalem, as part of a vertical expansion project that includes skyscrapers.
278 units will be built in the Armon Hanatziv settlement, and 215 in Kiryat Menachem, within a plan aimed at transforming the urban and demographic landscape of Jerusalem, gradually turning it into a version of "Tel Aviv". t.me/QudsNen/173934
#Jordan which "controls" Jerusalem stays speechless in front of #zionazis' illegal expansion.
Ongoing settlement expansion in occupied Jerusalem is an attempt to forcefully Judaize the city. Israel approves the construction of 493 new settlement units in Jerusalem, as part of a vertical expansion project that includes skyscrapers.
Manifestations au Panama : La Via Campesina exprime sa solidarité avec les mouvements sociaux et dénonce la répression menée par l’État
La Via Campesina exprime sa solidarité avec l’Unión Indígena Campesina (UIC) et l’Unión Campesina Panameña (UCP), qui se mobilisent actuellement aux côtés d’autres secteurs populaires du Panama pour défendre la souveraineté nationale. Ensemble, ces mouvements dénoncent les violations des droits humains, le non-respect de la Constitution politique de la République, ainsi que la loi controversée 462, qui introduit des réformes majeures du Fonds de sécurité sociale du Panama (CSS). Selon ces mouvements, les réformes condamneraient les travailleur·euse·s à ne jamais pouvoir partir à la retraite et à percevoir des pensions de misère ne dépassant pas 300 dollars. Iels protestent également contre l’implication d’intermédiaires financiers, ce qui entraînerait une privatisation du CSS et une baisse des pensions pour les travailleur·euse·s.
Isabel Guzmán de la CSA parle des revendications des femmes dans la grève syndicale qui dure depuis plus d’un mois Le Panama continue d’être le théâtre d’intenses conflits et de mobilisations…
Merci à Vigie Laïcité de m'avoir indiqué cette très intéressante interview de Franck Fregosi suite à la publication de ce rapport sur les "Frères Musulmans et islamisme politique en France" trop médiatisé et orienté dans le sens des idées de Retailleau lemonde.fr/le-monde-des-religi…
Alors que la visibilité d’une partie des musulmans choque une société française profondément sécularisée, les pouvoirs publics se montrent plus intrusifs vis-à-vis de l’islam qu’à l’égard des autres cultes.
Ignasi Guardáns, el de CIU y el 3% dando lecciones sobre lo que los demás deberían hacer. Panda de desgraciados con voz en medios de comunicación cuando deberían callarse y bajar la cabeza.
Actually this is statism, not communism. However it proves (once again) that markets are not magical devices that solve all problems.
What I want to focus on today is a different trend, which is how states, led by Ohio and Kentucky, are actually nationalizing a key mechanism to organize pharmaceutical prices. Yes, nationalizing, aka having the state take over a private business and run it. And it’s working fantastically well.
Replacing private pharma middlemen with state agencies cut costs and saved pharmacists. Wheee! Plus, Trump's tax bill passed, DOJ beat Apple on antitrust, and South Park creators got mad at a merger.
Authorities referring to it as “their section" implies these are individuals who are recognised by the state as transgender. Recognition in Iran requires gender-affirming surgery, of which there have been order-of-magnitude a thousand in the country. But then 100 transgender inmates out of that number, in a single prison, when being ‘officially' transgender is not by and of itself a reason for a prison term, seems like an extreme proportion.
Are these individuals who were in prison on account of being recognised (by the state) as being transgender, but being so 'illegally' because they have not had/consented to/... surgery? I.e., 'recognised unrecognised transgender’ (from the perspective of the Iranian authorities)?
Satellite images and videos: #Israel struck 4 areas of Tehran's Evin Prison in strike on June 23, killing 79 prison officials, administrative staff, & detainees & their family members
Damage was across 2,000 feet of prison - Building w administrative offices destroyed and medical center heavily damaged
Deep in the Atlantic Ocean flows an invisible river, more powerful than all the great terrestrial rivers combined. It's the so-called Atlantic Meridional Ove...
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in reply to joborun linux • • •I don't like to ask for help. I'm lazy and stubborn... or worse: harleytherapy.co.uk/counsellin…
1) I have the jobbot chroot set up. Outside the chroot is a mix of joborun and artix which I'm really embarrassed about. Nextcloud seems to need ipv6. Is there a good solution to this?
2) I don't need to more than update-jobo-repos, right? I don't need to replace the chroot with the new jobbot image? BTW, Any post to reddit should be mirrored here. I gave up on reddit when we moved here. The new images post really needs to be here.
3) eudev didn't build at first. Then I saw the error: missing dependency: linux6.6-headers
4) bash didn't build for me. No target specified error or something like that. Tried mkpkg and makepkg
5) Tried to build gcc. After 26 hours I aborted it as it was getting a lot of error messages. Over 4000
Joborun should be submitted to distrowatch. If you guys won't do it, can I?
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in reply to joborun linux • • •1 It doesn't matter whether the chroot is in RHEL it will build the same
Artix Arch Manjaro ... no difference, just pid1 is different, all else is the same. Whether openrc syvinit dinit runit s6 manages services doesn't affect anything, the services are the same. What changes is that when logind is called elogind responds through dbus, instead of consolekit2 in obarun. In this respect spark linux with sinit/ssm is more honest, 99% arch just switching init and services through ssm. Artix wants to pretend it is a distro by rebuilding 100% arch pkgs.
At least obarun has a design of difference, no systemd boot, no systemd udev, no systemd logind, and packages built specifically without systemd.
2 No the new image is just updated pkgs so you get the same as running pkg -Suy in chroot, Most of the essential scripts in chroot are included in the jobbot pkgs so if there would be a change you get that replaced as well. /usr/local/bin/**
3 Not that it would make any difference but yes deps was changed to linux-headers PK*D linux6.6-headers but since linux-api-headers is 5.15 eudev is best built with it as well. I passed the change and rebuild it
4 Bash took a long while in this last build and there has always been a test that fails so what to do is after it fails the test
makepkg -e --nocheck
which finishes up fast as it uses everything compiled already and skips the tests
The theory is that test data that succeeded are incorporated in the build while makepkg -f --nocheck will not run tests at all.
There are a few pkgs that work this way, many of them because they assume a dbus system is running and trying to use dbus to complete the test ... so Bleep-bloop ... some fail for more dangerous reasons, so let them fail.
5 grep -i ipv6 /src/pkg/job//PKGBUILD reveals ALL packages where ipv6 is disabled.
For kernel it is a bit more complicated as you have to edit config and switch all the =n into =y
Also in default boot grub.cfg remove the tag that says disable ipv6
Then you have ipv6
The interesting part is running a vm inside joborun of a system that utilizes ipv6 and it gets an ipv6 address, because of use of ipv6 tunnel over ipv4
And that is good enough reason to chop the head of the hydra even knowing that it can still prop up another.
6 I wish you had told me before you erase all the work of the 26hrs .. makepkg -e --nocheck
I don't know why you had tests fail though, did you build in the order of linux-api-headers --- glibc binutils ... gcc The last rebuild we did took nearly 40hrs but no tests failed.
Building without tests builds fine and in a few hours .. but yes, this is the pkg from hell but we can't live without it
Imagine that when it is upgraded to new version and glibc is nearly always upgraded at the same time that whole chain of build tools is built twice
On the last run we went wild, we rebuilt another sequence and most of the pkgs in chroot optimized for our build machine, we gave the pkgrel 001 instead of 01 to separate them. Not a spec of difference in speed that we could observe, little difference if any, so never again.
compile and learn instead of live ...
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in reply to joborun linux • • •harleytherapy.co.uk/counsellin…
guilty guilty ... of same diagnosis
Getting lost on a trip and never asking for directions just rely on maps and signs 😀 Yes yes yes!
There is a sense of autonomy and DIY in some of us, we can't escape it, it is part of who we are. Not all characteristics of a personality need to change and receive therapy, shrinks can go ... .. ff... @@ ..
And fuck the easy way and the proven popular way ....
.... like Sid said, I did it MOY WAY!!! (sinatra sid vicious parody)
FUCK IBM .... I didn't say it all day and I was feeling nauseous
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in reply to joborun linux • • •Kerry (kokanee)
in reply to joborun linux • • •I have done it! All that's left of Artix is openrc while I take a break and figure out which init I should be using.
Some things that I've learned:
1) Some packages need/like to be installed together: pkg -S linux, mkinitcpio, eudev, libeudev, base, kmod or pkg -S cryptsetup gnupg gpgme libassuan libgcrypt libgpg-error pacman rpcbind.
2) ./pacman-static is very helpful. timeshift was essential. pacopts was the cleanup hitter! Of course, pkg -Q identifies joborun packages very easily with the 01, 02.03 extensions. Thank you for that!
3) Nextcloud works well on joborun! I had to disable ipv6 on one nextcloud config file. Dovecot and ningx both needed to have ipv6 disabled and so ipv6.disable=1 is in force. Not surprisingly, nextcloud is much zippier now than before.
4) I learned more about systemd than I ever wanted to. /usr/lib/sysusers.d was the bane of the conversion. Artix versions were esysusers and etmpfiles. systemd tentacles everywhere. Even so, we have deal with opensysusers, opentmpfiles, udev, libudev among other systemd parts. It's exhausting.
Kerry (kokanee)
in reply to joborun linux • • •joborun linux
in reply to joborun linux • • •pacopts is a good tool when trying to clean up between repository sources, unfortunately it brings in a chain of obarun/skarnet pkgs but in total it is a small load.
pacopts origin jobextra
for example will go through the list of jobextr ( pacman -Sl jobextra) see whether any are installed and check if they are authentic against the jobextra.db or not and offer to replace them with the originals.
so if you have liburing-2.11-1 even though 2.11-01 will not replace it pacopts will pick-it up
also on cache .zst is arch or artix, .xz is obarun .lz is joborun (except for very few old pkgs still on .xz)
Another trick is to see what you have in
pacman -Qo /usr/lib/systemd/system/*
As far as I know none of our pkgs have anything there, so most likely what you find there is another source's pkg which has service files for systemd srored there.
DO ask when you get stuck on anything, discussion here encourages other people to attempt similar things, and that is good because we all learn tricks from one another. It is like libertarian school 😀
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in reply to joborun linux • • •Will do. Some packages built fine in the jobbot chroot. Some did not. Is there a generic troubleshooting guideline?
Kerry (kokanee)
in reply to joborun linux • • •I've got the hang of it. Everything is building fine. It"s me, not you. ;)
Building the tool chain now. I should be installing what I build in the jobbot chroot, right?
joborun linux
in reply to joborun linux • • •We used to make notes of when some tests failed to run without tests/check but without feedback from users we stopped being consistent.
What is generic as procedure is:
makepkg
--> some tests fail
makepkg -e --nocheck
there have been instances where a valid gpg signature is not found in the default pacman server, either server is down or not up to date, in this case either search other servers or risk and run --skippgpcheck and especially when recently you have run other sw with the same key and it worked or rebuilt the same .. If it is gnu sw ... they are known to be a mess so don't worry about them .. unfortunately we are on gnu linux. If you are within US borders, maybe CDN as well, you may be oK but outside their turf things (networked gnu servers) tend to be neglected. Arch building servers are US based so whet they see is one thing, what the rest of the world sees is another, when it comes to gnu.
Worst of all is they don't give a shit .. because they are GNU
One problematic exception to building we are investigating is e2fsprogs and its fuse byproduct.
It compiles fine all the way and when it gets to the stage of building documentation it fails to find language modules of the documents it supposedly were built.
The problem was narrowed down to using gettext, and using arch gettext instead, produced those modules. The difference between our gettext and their gettext is using our own minimalist build of emacs (emacs-git) which is more recent than arch but is minalistic not full of plugins and guis, so better ;)
We tebuilt emacs-git in case there was a bug in previous session tested emacs to make sure it works well, then rebuilt gettext 2-3 times, same problem. So for now we let the e2fsprogs go by using arch/gettext and this is the 1st time we have done such a thing in 5 years. All the research we have done on this ends in dead ends and same problem. We can''t find specific documentation for those modules, and the error comes up for 4-5 languages, is it specific to them or the builder quits after the 5th error?
Did you notice the labwc 0.9.0 release?
Kerry (kokanee)
in reply to joborun linux • • •Re: Did you notice the labwc 0.9.0 release?
I did. I built it and installed it. Anything new?
joborun linux
in reply to joborun linux • • •It is pretty much the same as the last rc
I haven't seen anything worth talking about.
As a major release it is build on wlroots19 and the most notable change was that split colors on title bar 😀
% more /usr/share/doc/labwc/NEWS.md
joborun linux
in reply to joborun linux • • •Eureka!!
The problem with gettext encountered when building e2fs-progs first then icewm then today on mercurial. Because gettext needs dbus installed to build, and since dbus is always on Arch base not on out building base, and since we opted to build dbus recently with selinux enabled, libselinux must be present when using gettext to build. So we are adding it as a running dependency but make a note of it before -03 comes out if you are building something requiring gettext.
Why is dbus so necessary in building documents for software translated in languages or other texts internationalized ... your guess is as bad as mine ! Freaking snitch crawls everywhere
The cost of breaking things down to elements and not being as sloppy as Arch
Last night I got a -testing batch of upgrades to do but was too late to even start, so saved the list and started today. Before starting I run the script that picks up Arch upgrades again and compared to see what has come up more. Mercurial and curl.
Because everything else was on -testing and mercurial was stable I wondered whether they actually build on a stable environment or on -testing from last night? So yes, when building something that is to bypass testing and be placed straight to stable they build on a stable environment, even though a bunch (curl libxml2) were upgraded on testing.
They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, this dog keeps learning and there is so much more and so little time left ...
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in reply to joborun linux • • •Well done! It's like finding a needle in a haystack. Now I'm going to rebuild gettext and then build e2fsprogs. I'm falling behind in my building. I'm giving up on gcc for now. My best success was the first try and now I really wished that I didn't immediately wipe it clean.
Those arch guys will do anything to get a package to compile. I see trouble ahead...
That's me watching Jeopardy!
joborun linux
in reply to joborun linux • • •just add depends=(...libselinux ..)
on the list, the build remains the same, so when gettext is installed to build something else libselinux is added as dependency.
There is curl libxml2 ffmpeg libplacebo apparmor .... vulkan-hea .. vulkan-.. ... mercurial
all lined up for upgrading in case you want to wait.