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US Attacks Iran: Start of a Long War? | naked capitalism
And so the US war against Iran begins, with showy strikes against empty nuclear facilities. What next?Yves Smith (naked capitalism)
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I sure am glad I’m not an American citizen on vacation outside the USA right now.Max Gross Archive
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#Mondoweiss | The Jewish supremacy at the heart of the Zionist project
'In 2018, the Knesset passed the Jewish Nation-State Law, which articulated very clearly that Israel was the nation-state of the Jewish people alone and, by implication, not of all its citizens (i.e. Palestinian “citizens” of Israel). The Jewish Nation-State Law is merely a clearer articulation of Israel’s founding structure. Despite this, most American Jews remain steadfast in their position that Israel is the “only democracy in the Middle East.”'
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The Jewish supremacy at the heart of the Zionist project
Ideas of Jewish supremacy have been central to the Zionist movement from its beginning. Just as we call out white supremacy in the United States, we must call out Jewish supremacy in occupied Palestine.Maura Finkelstein (Mondoweiss)
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I'm sorry to tell you this, but "No Kings" is a DNC production. People thought they were out there protesting fascism, but in fact what they were doing was SUPPORTING fascism - just the fascists with the smiley faces and lots of DEI.
Real protests come from the people, not the uniparty.
Donald Trump leaves the G7 summit before the end
• Arriving at the G7 Leaders’ Summit in Kananaskis, Alberta, Canada, US President Donald Trump publicly lamented the exclusion of Russia from the G7. While the summit was supposed to end on June 17, he left it before the end, a day early.Voltaire Network
Fight The Rich, Not Their Wars: NO War With Iran
On June 21, US warplanes dropped its “bunker buster” bombs on three Iranian nuclear sites, including one heavily fortified site, Fordo, that is critical to Iran’s nuclear program.Socialist Alternative
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Israel Announces More Strikes On Iran, Says It Killed Three Senior Guards Officers (Videos)
The Israeli Air Force (IAF) carried out a large wave of strikes on dozens of targets in Iran overnight, including...Anonymous1199 (South Front)
oh this is interesting. there have definitely been malfunctions in the sirens before, but absolutely none when haifa is getting hit 20 times over?
sounds like israel really needs 8200 right now.
I don't understand why they would carry out a few strikes in the surrounding areas, when by closing #Hormuz themselves and the #Houthis closing #Suez, they can bring the entire West to its knees in a week.
Money is more valuable than human lives to the western clowns
yeah, iran won't react "to" the u.s. they're just going to finish off the military colony tonight.
4 waves so far in the last hour or so.
20 hits just in haifa alone.
Madness.
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🇺🇸🇮🇷 BREAKING: Trump Confirms U.S. Bombed Iran's Nuclear Sites | Full Coverage & Analysis
🇺🇸🇮🇷 BREAKING: Trump Confirms U.S. Bombed Iran's Nuclear Sites | Full Coverage & AnalysisIn a dramatic escalation, former U.S. President Donald Trump has...YouTube
UN Experts, Special Rapporteurs Condemn Israeli Aggression against Iran
TEHRAN (Tasnim) – United Nations experts and special rapporteurs have unequivocally condemned the recent Israeli military attacks against Iran, saying the Zionist regime is posing a threat to peace and security in the region and beyond.Tasnim News Agency
Campaigner calls for judge-led public inquiry into Windrush scandal
Victims of other injustices are treated better, says founder of ‘bittersweet’ Windrush DayChris Osuh (The Guardian)
seems 40 missiles have been launched either in total between the two barrages, or maybe its in reference to the first barrage.
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In an age marked by conflicts, disease, dysfunction and mental health challenges, yoga offers a steady, time-trusted path to help find calm and harmony within – and without.www.globalissues.org
Says the man complicit in the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians.
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UK prime minister criticises band’s inclusion in festival lineup after Liam Óg Ó hAnnaidh allegedly displayed flag supporting HezbollahHayden Vernon (The Guardian)
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#hypocrisy of the evil ones
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What the #Media Won’t Tell You: #Iran
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Trump has volunteered the US military as an instrument for Israel, a genocidal foreign colonial implant, to attack a sovereign country that posed no threat to the US
Trump did so in violation of the Constitution and against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the American public
Trump allowed Israel to exploit American diplomacy as a ruse and made no effort to explain the logic of going to war to the American public
Trump even ended his speech announcing the attacks by declaring, “god bless Israel”
So now it is clear and beyond debate: we live under a Zionist regime that hates us and which will sacrifice us for its ethnosupremacist agenda
And we will reap a whirlwind
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1936610779945369952
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The man is batshit crazy. Trump must be impeached for this and removed from office.
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Self-Proclaimed “Peacemaker” Drags U.S. Into Another War
Heeding the request of Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, President Donald Trump dispatched U.S. warplanes to bomb Iran.Nick Turse (The Intercept)
I seen a little Thinkpad used for under 200 bucks and I was real tempted
But I already have a server and its keyboard layout looked bad so I didn't get it (one of the newer models I think)
Or an e-waste tier mini office PC if that's easier to shove somewhere, vertical Wii style!
*pats top of the 2012 Dell that we got for like $30 (+ some extra for a replacement PSU) with a paw*
Must fight temptation to buy an overpriced raspberry pi
Laptops are not generally designed to run like that with a closed lid. Heat dissipation is designed around the idea the laptop is open and some of it is through the keyboard surface. The lid closed would change that.
Systems can of course be setup to power off the display but for server/service uses open laptops may not be efficient space wise.
Having said that if the scenario is low power use the heat dissipation may not be a major issue. But if there is an unremovable battery i'd still be concerned about heat dissipation with the lid closed and even just the battery itself regardless of heat dissipiation.
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I remember 2 years ago trying out Lemmy and getting a few laughs about beans and trying not to poop. I thought "this is ok, but I don't think this will ever replace Reddit in my day to day."
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Almasirah:Israel has targeted three hospitals and six ambulances so far, Iran’s Health Minister Mohammadreza Zafarghandi said.
Israel has targeted three hospitals and six ambulances so far, Iran’s Health Minister Mohammadreza Zafarghandi said.english.masirahtv.net
I don’t know what’s going to happen now
…but here are some options from a foreign-policy standpoint as laid out by The Atlantic. Seems a reasonable summary to me.
What it completely leaves out is that this is a direct violation of the War Powers Act, the UN Charter (to which the US is signatory), and even the National Security Act. I guess that’s not important anymore.
Correctly, there are calls for impeachment tonight from outside and within Congress. I suggest you write whoever you’ve got up there to do the same. But I do not expect it to go anywhere; I am absolutely confident the MAGAts will find a way to justify their 100% spin on the “peace president” and why bombing Iran – an absolute act of war – is just fine and all the more reason to worship their shit-stain incarnate God Emperor.
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The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?
President Trump is taking an enormous risk.Tom Nichols (The Atlantic)
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To be very clear, the enrichment sites bombed by the US and Israel in Iran will more than likely not cause a release of radiation into the atmosphere or even local population centers.
Following recent bombings the IAEA already reported only contamination WITHIN the facilities, and that most of their concern was chemical.
Whatever radiological impact will occur will be infinitely eclipsed by the deaths a follow-on war will cause. Let's focus our energy on preventing that.
From the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting:
"Three nuclear sites, including Fordow, had been evacuated some time ago and our enriched uranium stockpile was moved away from these locations, so there is no risk of radiation leakage."
Thomas Keith: Iranian sources now confirm Fordow is intact. Only 2 munitions struck surface-level access points. No deep-penetration, no cascade collapse, no reactor kill.
Fordow was built to withstand nuclear war. A single flyby doesn’t erase hardened bunkers buried 80 meters deep behind reinforced mountain rock.
This wasn’t a successful strike. It was a narrative op. Aimed at markets, voters, and momentum. But the physics of Fordow don’t bend to spin. @iran x.com/iwasnevrhere_/status/193…
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IRGC releases list of strategic Israeli targets Iran just hit
TEHRAN, Jun. 22 (MNA) – IRGC says 14 strategic Israeli targets in Haifa and Tel Aviv were hit in the last wave of punitive Iranian strikes, which he called one of the most successful since Iran began pounding the Israeli-occupied territories.Marzieh Rahmani (Mehr News Agency)
Some may feel okay with genocide but don't want to hear it out loud.
From what I read, the strikes against Fordow were largely unsuccessful, with no damage to the actual installations. Similar can be said about Natanz and Isfahan. So this was an attack with limited to no success, that will put #Iran in a situation where they HAVE to respond. This response can easily trigger an open war, maybe even a war declaration (the only thing the Democrats are complaining about).
the u.s. is almost certainly suicide. it is a deterrent. its the final deterrent to defend the state. the bee's sting.
but they cant back down from israel. bc thats a fair fight and its a matter of honor. with respect to Israel, CosmickTrigger's crude analogy is more appropriate. there is no reason to stop hitting israel until they surrender and stop the genocide.
I gotta say, folks, most of the hot takes on the US bombardment of #Iran--those of my friends/people I respect, of course excepted 😀 --are really embarrassingly ignorant, uninformed, & intellectually unsophisticated.
But that's the state of academia & social media ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I guess Israel didn't actually take out all of Iran's missile launchers after all.
Trump says US has attacked three nuclear sites in Iran
Well, fuck. Now I guess we get to find out. Bee sure to tune in at 2200 Eastern for whatever rambling mess Trump is going to spout off.
I hate weekends.
Donald Trump announced Saturday that the US had completed strikes on three nuclear sites in Iran, directly joining Israel ’s effort to destroy the country’s nuclear program in a risky gambit to weaken a longtime foe amid Tehran’s threat of reprisals that could spark a wider regional conflict.“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan,” Trump said in a post on social media. “All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home.”
Congratulations to our great American Warriors. There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE! Thank you for your attention to this matter,” he added.
The White House alerted television networks that Trump would address the nation at 10 p.m. EDT.
Trump says US has attacked three nuclear sites in Iran
President on Truth Social says US completed ‘very successful attack’ on Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan sitesAndrew Roth (The Guardian)
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Trump Has Bombed Iran. What Happens Next Is His Fault.
The US is the only nation on earth that can rival Israel in its ability to play the victim when the ball they’ve thrown at the wall bounces back.
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Trump Has Bombed Iran. What Happens Next Is His Fault.
The US military has bombed multiple Iranian nuclear sites on the orders of President Trump, immediately putting tens of thousands of US military personnel in the region at risk of an Iranian retaliation which can then escalate to full-scale war.Caitlin Johnstone (Caitlin’s Newsletter)
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Araghchi Meets Erdogan in Istanbul
Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi met and held talks with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan this Saturday afternoon, June 19, on the sidelines of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation Foreign Ministers' meeting.Iran Press
I doubt it were 30 cause 6 to 8 B-2 were sent of which each can carry 2 bombs.
For 30 they'd would have to attack several times. I doubt they did.
The wear and tear of fully loaded aging airplanes is pretty big btw.
That's why you see Russian strategic bombers never shooting full loads of Kh-101.
But it's true they don't know if the bombing was successful.
The numbers I wrote are as reported by the US.
I don't know how many B2s they sent so I don't know if it's 30 bombs.
What I'm willing to bet though is that all they managed to do is make a hole in the water.
Or maybe a few holes in the Iranian mountains.
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Ubuntu 25.10 drops support for GNOME on Xorg
Ubuntu 25.10 drops support for GNOME on Xorg
With Ubuntu 25.10 “Questing Quokka,” we are taking a significant step forward in the evolution of the Ubuntu Desktop by removing the Xorg-based Ubuntu session. Starting with this release the “Ubuntu” session in GDM will run exclusively on Wayland.Ubuntu Community Hub
but all the other parts about entering the war are premature.
do not believe the one asshole that keeps posting a graphic that says the ayatollah vowed revenge. that is fake news.
its a big nothing burger. its for the tweets.
BREAKING: The Pakistani Zainabiyoun announce they will enter the war if the US attacks Iran
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'Muricah: Trump is bombing shit for peace.
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yeah..remember how they "won" the war on terror by bombing the shit out of countries?
now everybody loves the usa...
Operation Mockingbird, CIA mind control through tell-a-vision programming
A snippet from the new ‘Out of the Shadows’ documentary.Operation Mockingbird is a large-scale program of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)...YouTube
You cannot bomb your way to a nuclear free world.
You cannot bomb your way to peace
The USA has made it clear that only nuclear armed countries are considered sovereign by the Empire. North Korea is weak in every other way, but is treated as an equal. The long term outcome of that is that every small nation will want nuclear weapons.
Nuclear weapons for small nations is the same argument as gun rights for individuals: it's the only thing that deters a bully. By being a bully, the Empire makes everyone want the only weapon that seems to deter the Empire.
“They have plundered the world, stripping naked the land in their hunger… They ravage, they slaughter, they seize by false pretenses, and all of this they hail as the construction of empire. And when in their wake nothing remains but a desert, they call that peace.”
- Tacitus, nearly 2000 years ago
US bombing Iran is an unprovoked, illegal act of terror.
The U.S has manifestly breached the UN charter.
Israel and US have no respect for international treaties or charters
Israel’s impunity is absolute
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bc yemini press is also not echoing these remarks.
STILL not seeing a military reaction from the u.s.
y'all better stop fear mongering without evidence.
are the houtis actually hitting when iran doesn't care?
Over/under some Iranian sleeper cells get activated in the USA?
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What is the Axis hiding to the US?
Parallel to its military mobilization, the US is trying to provoke the fronts of the resistance across the countries of the axis. What is the US afraid of?Exclusive – Al-Khabar Al-Yemeni:After completing the evacuation of its forces from the MiddleDAILY YEMEN
MacOS Preview equivalent
Title mostly says it all. Preview is unironically an incredible piece of software. Between feature set and ease of use, I have yet to come across any FOSS that is comparable. Anyone know of a Linux alternative?
EDIT: Due to popular demand I should explain Preview more. It’s a “fully fledged” PDF editor, but somehow it’s completely different from something like Adobe Acrobat. The way most users will interact with it is as a seemingly very plain image viewer, but if you open a PDF you can add fillable boxes, rearrange pages, split and merge PDFs, etc. I cannot place exactly why it’s workflows feel so much better than something like Acrobat.
I’m already running Linux. I’m looking for an application that can run on Linux that roughly matches the feature set of MacOS Preview for image and PDF viewing and basic editing.
EDIT: Due to popular demand I should explain Preview more. It’s a “fully fledged” PDF editor, but somehow it’s completely different from something like Adobe Acrobat. The way most users will interact with it is as a seemingly very plain image viewer, but if you open a PDF you can add fillable boxes, rearrange pages, split and merge PDFs, etc. I cannot place exactly why it’s workflows feel so much better than something like Acrobat.
It might be helpful if you explained what it is or what it does.
E: honestly not sure why I'm being downvoted for asking what the thing in the OP is...
HEARD... #Pakistan just granted #USA military permission to enter and operate in their water space. It's closer to #Iran. This, according to my CNA who has a lot of relatives back there. So a tip, possibly accurate...? US has staged from there before.
#Israel #Hezbollah #Hamas #Houthi #Gaza #Palestine #Lebanon #Iran #MiddleEast #War #Politics #USPolitics #USPol #News #Project2025 #Fascism
Sure, but NYC is one of only a couple of places within the Us the neocons care about. And I imagine it'd be easier to smuggle the bomb in there than Israel.
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in reply to Andrea Junker • • •Do not cover one war monger with another.
#biden4genocide #kamala4genocide
Eh?!?
in reply to Disisdeguey🔻Pavlichenko🇵🇸 • • •Given the current condition of #Palestinians after 5 months of this administration, the "blabla4genocide" argument strikes me for its careless disregard for the Palestinian people.
Falling forward 🍉
in reply to Eh?!? • • •The careless disregard was from both political parties. That's the point.
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in reply to BenAveling • • •BenAveling
in reply to Disisdeguey🔻Pavlichenko🇵🇸 • • •@Strandjunker
Lillian Violet
in reply to BenAveling • • •BenAveling
in reply to Lillian Violet • • •What now?
@disisdeguey @GLaDTheresCake @Strandjunker
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in reply to BenAveling • • •BenAveling
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in reply to BenAveling • • •Misuse Case
in reply to Lillian Violet • • •@GLaDTheresCake @BenAveling @disisdeguey Good thing you didn’t vote for the genociding Democrats, the other candidate won and all the genociding is fixed now.
/s
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in reply to Misuse Case • • •Misuse Case
in reply to Disisdeguey🔻Pavlichenko🇵🇸 • • •Disisdeguey🔻Pavlichenko🇵🇸
in reply to Misuse Case • • •Misuse Case
in reply to Disisdeguey🔻Pavlichenko🇵🇸 • • •@disisdeguey @GLaDTheresCake @BenAveling It was a Matrix reference and a conspiracy theory bit when the manosphere people started using it too.
Thanks for leaning into the stereotype that right-wingers and left-wingers are the same. /s
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in reply to Misuse Case • • •Mad Dog Ace Run
in reply to Disisdeguey🔻Pavlichenko🇵🇸 • • •@disisdeguey
While we definitely were not doing enough to stop the Israeli genocide in Gaza, it is disingenous to say that we were the ones doing the actual bombing. Yes, we sold them the bombs but that has been US policy for years now. Neither Harris nor Biden told Netanyahu to bomb civilians> He takes full blame. But noth Harris and Biden could have spoken up more for the rights of the Palestinians. No doubt about that.
Of course now we have another distraction so we can forget about it...
Disisdeguey🔻Pavlichenko🇵🇸
in reply to Mad Dog Ace Run • • •I rest my case and now move on.
Mad Dog Ace Run
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LOL. You rest your case based on lies? Interesting. Hate to tell you this but there are no US soldiers in Gaza and you have also provided zero proof that there are.
I rest my case...
Eh?!?
Unknown parent • • •The point is making what's possible to avoid ADDITIONAL victims and suffering WRT what's already going on. Trump's victory brought nothing good for the Palestinians, and we now have war in Iran, migrants being disappeared in the USA, LGBTQ rights being maimed, poor people in the USA losing that minimal welfare they relied upon and counting.
Maybe more wars to come all over the world.
We may disagree on this, of course, but both PoVs deserve respect.
Eh?!?
Unknown parent • • •That's not the point I'm making. If someone argues that a Dem administration would have not moved war to Iran (at least not under the current conditions), what's the point of bringing out that Dems and GOPs had the same stance about Palestine? It's exploiting the suffering of the Palestinians to prop up a political agenda re the USA. Or to claim one's own ethical purity, which is even worse, like "who cares about Iran war victims, I was right on Nov 6th"