Something refreshing on a hot day…
Well, it's not far down to paradise
At least it's not for me
And if the wind is right you can sail away
And find tranquility
Oh, the canvas can do miracles
Just you wait and see
Believe me
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in reply to Katherine Bond • • •"Nonhuman animals (and maybe plants) are a lot more sentient than we like to give them credit for."
Definitely @John Hummel
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in reply to Katherine Bond • • •@John Hummel I wondered for a long time about the "hierarchy of intelligence" set by humans where put themselves at the top of the "intelligence hierarchy". They understand so little about how other animals and plants operate and from my own observation, the animals and plants always know way before humans when something is going to go down eg cyclones or when a particular fruit is fruiting 5,000 or more kms away. How do they know these things???
So I've inverting the pyramid (symbolically speaking) and putting the animals and plants at the top, there is so much we can learn from them.
Maybe, there is no hierarchy of intelligence, except within the human psyche?
Thanks for opening this wondering again...💚☮️🐸
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in reply to Katherine Bond • • •Comparative cognition (the study of the relative cognitive abilities of different species) is indeed deceptively tricky, @iam-elegance.
At the risk of over-simplifying, one lesson seems to be that whereas most animals are specialists who are extremely good at a relatively small number of things, humans are generalists who can learn to be fairly good at almost anything.
Another generalization, related to the previous one, is that most species change themselves over evolutionary time in order to adapt to the environment in which they find themselves. Humans, by contrast, change the environment in real-time (building homes, irrigation, farms, factories, etc.) in order to suit their needs.
@mc is also right that cetaceans (whales and dolphins) and corvids (crows, ravens, jays, and magpies) appear to have a kind and degree of general intelligence that is comparable to (and perhaps in some cases, superior to) human intelligence in many ways.
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in reply to Katherine Bond • • •"Animals don’t kill each other for fun." I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, @Katherine Bond, but at least in the case of cats (and I'll bet this principle extends to most animals) the instinct to hunt/kill is entirely separate from the instinct to eat. Basically, cats kill whenever they get the opportunity. And if they happen to be hungry (which, in the wild, they probably are most of the time), then they eat the kill. I don't know what they do with the kill if they don't happen to be hungry. Or maybe I do: My own cat has presented me with several dead mice; perhaps when they're not hungry, they share.
It's unclear whether "killing when the opportunity presents itself" is the same as "killing for fun", but even if they're not the same, it seems to me that they're cousins.
But this doesn't make cats or other predators psychopaths. (Although this behavior in a human would definitely make them a psychopath.) It probably just means that selection pressure favored predators who hunted even when they weren't hungry. After all, waiting until you're hungry before you hunt means you'll always be hunting on low blood sugar, which is not a good plan if you want to be a successful hunter.
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