Open, free, and completely ignored: The strange afterlife of Symbian
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Open, free, and completely ignored: The strange afterlife of Symbian
: It did get sourced, but nobody caredLiam Proven (The Register)
Catweazle
in reply to Liam Proven • • •@theregister, I think, independent from how good is the OS, important also the infrastructure it has.
A good OS incompatible with needed apps and security soft isn't valid for an practical use.
Almost all apps nowadays are made for Android and iOS and forks on Linux base, like also Android (de-googled) itself, which is also FOSS.
Liam Proven
in reply to Catweazle • • •@Catweazle I disagree.
For instance I own 6 bicycles which are all completely incompatible with all brands of automotive fuel and tyres. They lack safety belts and all other vehicular safety features.
However they are excellent modes of transport. I've commuted on them, covered over 100 miles in a day using them, and I have carried tens of kilos of cargo on them.
If I had a Symbian phone today and it was able to communicate with, say, Beeper over @matrix, along with the other functions of something like an HMD 2660, I'd be 100% fine with that.
hmd.com/en_int/hmd-2660-flip
Not all tools for a job need to do their work the same way using the same functions as other more popular tools.
HMD 2660 Flip | Modern, stylish flip phone
HMD - Human Mobile DevicesCatweazle
in reply to Liam Proven • • •@matrix, agree and for sure for a lot of people Symbiant is perfectly valid, but my wife and also I am very old and we need eg. an app of our doctors appointments in the social security, official app only for Android and iOS and maybe forks of these.
Same for others which needs official apps which I doubt exist for Symbian. Nothing to do with having enough with an bicycle, the difference between need and nice to have.
Liam Proven
in reply to Catweazle • • •@Catweazle @matrix
Symbian. No T on the end.
All right, fair point. (Although my mum is nearly 90 and has an appless phone, so it's not one-size-fits-all.)
But the thing is that you said:
"A good OS incompatible with needed apps... isn't valid for an practical use."
I am guessing you mean "any". I gave you a valid use. OSes with no apps can be entirely useful, yes.
For instance, you also said "and security soft". If something can't run external apps then it can't run malware either, so no _security software_ is needed. I do not _want_ apps on my router, or on my storage server, or on my ebook reader!
The obsession with apps is a recent thing and it's everywhere. It's a red herring. Not everything needs apps, even including computing devices, and often, providing the ability to run external software is harmful and insecure.
Catweazle
in reply to Liam Proven • • •@matrix, agree with this statement, as I said before, for a lot of people Symbian is a pretty good alternative, but not for all because mencioned reasons, eg. also profesionals which have to work with company or specific apps.
Luckily there are also pretty good FOSS alternatives out there which are also compatible with needed apps.
Compatibility is always an important reason for a lot of users.
Yes, in my case I also can try to make a call for an appointment, but it's often impossible due of the office hours, presence of the nurse, because heavy traffic in the hospital and others, apart the need to pass always all the ID data, security number and other, because of this the social security intriduced the app some years ago.
The app connect direct with the calendar of the doctor, selecting a free zone, marking day and hour 24/7 with your registred data, even putting an alarm in your calendar, thing of half a minute and few clicks and aliviate a lot the work of the hospital personal, which is hard enough.