Agence TASS sur Telegram : /s/TASS_europe/9185
[...Plus d’un million de Hongrois ont déjà pris part au référendum sur l’adhésion de l’ #Ukraine à l’Union européenne, #référendum qui a été lancé le 14 avril et qui se poursuivra jusqu’à la mi-juin. C’est ce qu’a annoncé le premier ministre Viktor #Orbán, réaffirmant que son gouvernement s’opposait à une adhésion précipitée de l’Ukraine à l’UE.
"Je viens de recevoir l’information selon laquelle le nombre de votes exprimés a dépassé le million sur la question d’une adhésion accélérée de l’Ukraine à l’ #UE. Un résultat fantastique, qui pourrait même dépasser nos attentes",
a déclaré M. Orbán dans une vidéo diffusée à la télévision nationale...]

#Orban #Hongrie #europe

**L’histoire hallucinante des vaches abandonnées sur une île et laissées à elles-mêmes pendant 130 ans ! **
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par la même occasion je découvre le terme féralisation qui qualifie le retour à la vie sauvage d'animaux domestiques
vu l'incompétence e des politiciens en matière de changement climatique et autres pillage des ressources par les humains, pas de souci si l'espèce disparaît et comme on l'a observé durant le covid la vie reprendra son chemin naturel .....
#animaux #sauvage #ile #biodiversité #etc...

European kakistocracy locked in a Forever War against Russia strategic-culture.su/news/2025…

Readovka sur Telegram : /s/readovkanews/96665
La banque américaine #JPMorgan a élaboré pour ses clients une analyse sur la fin de l'opération militaire spéciale (OMS), chaque scénario impliquant des pertes pour Kiev.

La plus grande banque américaine en termes d'actifs, JPMorgan Chase, a présenté ses scénarios pour la fin du conflit en #Ukraine. Ce qui est particulièrement intéressant, c'est que les quatre principaux scénarios ont été spécialement conçus par les banquiers et financiers pour leurs clients, comme pour leur dire : «Évaluez les risques et faites vos investissements en vous basant sur notre document (bancaire).»

Le scénario le plus favorable pour les partenaires occidentaux des clients est le scénario «sud-coréen», avec une probabilité de 15 %. Selon sa description, Kiev conserverait 80 % de son territoire, n'intégrerait pas l'OTAN, mais des troupes étrangères s'installeraient en Ukraine et, grâce aux fonds confisqués à la Russie, construiraient une «véritable démocratie».

Le scénario le plus probable, intitulé «Pas terrible» (50 %), prévoit que l'Ukraine deviendra une sorte de nouvelle Géorgie : sans un soutien significatif de l'Occident, le pays sombrerait dans une crise prolongée qui le ramènerait naturellement dans l'orbite de la Russie.

Le scénario «Ça ira» (20 %) s'inspire du modèle israélien : aucun déploiement de troupes de l' #UE, des #États-Unis ou de l' #OTAN n'est prévu, mais les forces armées ukrainiennes seraient équipées d'armes en abondance, le pays serait couvert de bunkers, et les Ukrainiens vivraient dans cette forteresse assiégée. Il est noté que, pour ce scénario, il faudrait offrir à Vladimir #Poutine des «avantages économiques importants», y compris la levée des sanctions.

Le pire scénario pour l'Occident est le scénario «biélorusse» (15 %). Dans celui-ci, les États-Unis abandonnent l'Ukraine, et l' #UE échoue dans ses tentatives de prendre le relais. La #Russie obtient alors la capitulation totale de son adversaire, prend sous son aile ce qu'il reste de l'Ukraine indépendante et détruit définitivement le système mondial établi après la Seconde Guerre mondiale.

Fait remarquable, aucun des scénarios proposés n'envisage la possibilité pour Kiev de récupérer les territoires perdus, l'Ukraine étant présentée comme une entité qui sera soit divisée, soit mise en conserve...]


Le document de JP Morgan Chase, archivé:
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Hier, le journaliste Stéphane Luçon répondait aux questions d'Alexis Poulin depuis la Roumanie sur l’état des lieux de la campagne. De manière factuelle et non militante, professionnelle, il a rappelé des faits connus et relayés par des #médias roumains et internationaux sur la campagne sous influences.
Aujourd’hui son compte X est suspendu..........
"Informer est devenu impossible dans une #UE qui ne se cache plus dans sa volonté de #censure des voix non alignées ou des informations qui abîment la #propagande officielle !" A. POULIN


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#Roumanie #Poulin #Luçon

Andrei #MARTYANOV : La stratégie militaire de la Russie en Ukraine

"Mieux vaut s'adresser à Dieu qu'à ses saints" (proverbe français)... Autrement dit, en matière d'expertise en stratégie militaire, il est préférable, et de loin, de s'en remettre à Andrei #MARTYANOV qui parle clair, qui parle dur ! Quelle volée de bois vert !! #Trump, ses 'wonder boys', et les caniches européens en prennent pour leurs grades..!

Andrei MARTYANOV est un expert en stratégie militaire et navale russe. Il est né à Bakou, en #URSS, en 1963. Il est diplômé de l’Académie navale "Kirov Red Banner" et a servi comme officier à bord de navires et à des postes d’état-major de la Garde côtière soviétique jusqu’en 1990. Au milieu des années 1990, il a déménagé aux #États-Unis où il a travaillé comme directeur de laboratoire dans un groupe aérospatial commercial.


#Russie #Ukraine

Government urges Argentinans to take dollars out of their mattresses plenglish.com/news/2025/05/22/…

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Something is up in the "Peoples'" "Republic" of #China, and it has some people speculating that there is a slow moving #coup going on, or a purge...

Article:
Xi Jinping's Failed Coup Attempt has Led to a Thorough Purge of Military Influence

#Joseph P. #Farrell | #News and Views from the #Nefarium | May 22, #2025

BARBOUZERIES 23.5.2025 — Le briefing avec Slobodan #Despot

Où l'on constate, en observant la #Roumanie, la tranquille reprise en main des sociétés occidentales par des services pas si secrets que ça, et où l'on se demande où cela va nous conduire.


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🇺🇸🇷🇺‼️Rubio admitted in Congress that #Russia has the power to neutralize the US‼️
May 22, 2025

In one of the more unexpectedly open sessions of the #USCongress, Republican Congressman Darrell #Issa raised eyebrows - and the tone of the discussion - with a statement that echoed in the chamber: "Vladimir Putin is the undisputed leader of a country that has the capacity to wipe us off the face of the earth."

It wasn't a metaphor. Issa was talking about the #nuclear arsenal of the Russian Federation, and he was not alone in that assessment.

It seemed to many that the statement would pass without comment, but then US Secretary of State Marco #Rubio, who was also present at the session, also spoke. He didn't try to mitigate. On the contrary. "They have the largest strategic arsenal in the world and one of the largest tactical nuclear arsenals. And yes - he is the undisputed leader," Rubio confirmed, without hesitation.

The session took on a completely different tone. No longer in the sign of threats, sanctions and harsh rhetoric - but in the sign of reality.

Congressman Issa reminded the audience that history often does not follow the path that the public wishes for, but the one that survives in silence. "#Peace is not made with friends, but with those who do not like you," he said, invoking the logic of the #ColdWar.

Rubio continued, underscoring that the dialogue with Moscow must exist regardless of the current events in Ukraine. "It would be irresponsible if the two largest nuclear powers on the planet did not communicate. And that is exactly what has happened for the last three years," Rubio stressed, alluding to the lack of direct communication between Washington and Moscow since the beginning of the crisis.

But he made it clear – communication does not mean rapprochement. "That doesn't mean we'll become allies or friends. Unless things change significantly. But the relationship must exist, to avoid mistakes that could lead to global conflict."

Issa went a step further into historical parallels, recalling that the US once "just waited" while its rival collapsed on its own. "It's worked before. Look how the Soviet Union ended up. We didn't attack them, we just waited until the system collapsed from within."

This was not a rhetorical exercise, but an almost cold display of how some senior officials in the #US now view relations with Moscow - through the prism of the balance of #power, rather than ideology.

Rubio concluded by recalling a #history lesson from 1961. "If there were no channels of communication between Washington and Moscow then, the Caribbean crisis could have ended in disaster. The world could have disappeared then."

Without big words, but with a lot of significance, this session of the Congress showed that even in the highest American political circles there is a growing awareness that the simple division into "good" and "bad" no longer works. Especially when the other side has the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet and a leader who - everyone agrees - is firmly in the saddle.

And perhaps, as some have noted, the time is not to ask who wins, but how everyone survives.


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I tried, I really did


I've been an IT professional for 20 years now, but I've mainly dealt with Windows. I've worked with Linux servers through out the years, but never had Linux as a daily driver. And I decided it was time to change. I only had 2 requirements. One, I need to be able to use my Nvidia 3080 ti for local LLM and I need to be able to RDP with multiple screens to my work laptop running Windows 10.

My hope was to be able to get this all working and create some articles on how I did it to hopefully inspire/guide others. Unfortunately, I was not successful.

I started out with Ubuntu 22.04 and I could not get the live CD to boot. After some searching, I figured out I had to go in a turn off ACPI in boot loader. After that I was able to install Ubuntu side by side with Windows 11, but the boot loader errored out at the end of the install and Ubuntu would not boot.

Okay, back into Windows to download the boot loader fixer and boot to that. Alright, I'm finally able to get into Ubuntu, but I only have 1 of my 4 monitors working. Install the NVIDIA-SMI and reboot. All my monitors work now, but my network card is now broken.

Follow instructions on my phone to reinstall the linux-modules-extra package. Back into Windows to download that because, you know, no network connections. Reinstall the package, it doesn't work. Go into advanced recovery, try restoring packages, nothing is working. I can either get my monitors to work or my network card. Never both at the same time.

I give up and decide it's time to try out Fedora. The install process is much smoother. I boot up 3 of 4 monitors work. I find a great post on installing Nvidia drivers and CUDA. After doing that and rebooting, I have all 4 monitors and networking, woohoo!

Now, let's test RDP. Install FreeRDP run with /multimon, and the screen for each remote window is shifted 1/3 of the way to the left. Strange. Do a little looking online, find an Issue on GitHub about how it is based on the primary monitor. Long story short, I can't use multiple monitor RDP because I have different resolution monitors and they are stacked 2x2 instead of all in a row. Trust me I tried every combination I could think of.

Someone suggested using the nightly build because they have been working on this issue. Okay, I try that out and it fails to install because of a missing dependency. Apparently, there is a pull request from December to fix this on Fedora installs, but it hasn't been merged. So, I would need to compile that specific branch myself.

At this point, I'm just so sick of every little thing being a huge struggle, I reboot and go back into Windows. I still have Fedora on there, but who would have thought something that sounds as simple as wanting to RDP across 4 monitors would be so damn difficult.

I'm not saying any of this to bag on Linux. It's more of a discussion topic on, yes, I agree that there needs to be more adoption on Linux, but if someone with 20 years of IT experience gets this feed up with it, imagine how your average user would feel.

Of course if anyone has any recommendation on getting my RDP working, I'm all ears on that too.

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Passive OCR and other 'AI' tools on the Linux desktop


With modern CPU's supposedly shipping with 'AI cores': How long do you think it will take for a proper opensource, privacy respecting productivity tools(Something like whatever M$ copilot is supposed to be?) to be available?

Personally, i would love to see something like 'Passive' OCR integrated with the display server: the ability to pause any video and just select whatever text(even handwritten) there is naturally like it was a text document without any additional hassle will be really useful
Also useful in circumventing any blocks certain websites put on articles to prevent text from being copied

Or an AI grammar checker running natively for LibreOffice.

What are some AI tools you think should be developed for desktop Linux?

in reply to Artemis_Mystique

FOSS apps (all on Flathub)


Some of the AI related apps I've been using that are both Free Software and offline (where it runs on your computer without using network services in the cloud) are:

  • OCR: "Frog" can take screenshots, select images, accept drag and drop, and you can paste an image from the clipboard. It'll read the text on the images and immediately have a text area with the result. flathub.org/apps/com.github.te… — it's powered by Tesseract. Note: The completely optional text-to-speech that Frog has does use an online service. But the rest is offline.
  • Speech to text: "Speech Note" does text to speech, speech to text, and translations... all locally on your computer, and it supports GPU acceleration (which isn't needed, but it makes it a little faster). flathub.org/apps/net.mkiol.Spe… — This is basically the all-in-one "Swiss army knife" of ML text processing. Thanks to being a Flatpak, you don't have to do anything special for the dependencies. It's all taken care of for you. It also has tons of different models (for different voices, different backends) all available from within the UI, which just needs a click for downloading.
  • Upscaling images: There are two that do something similar, using some of the same backends. A nice and simple one is "Upscaler". flathub.org/apps/io.gitlab.the… Another one that's cross platform is "Upscayl" flathub.org/apps/org.upscayl.U… — these both use ESRGAN and Waifu2x in the background.
  • Closed captioning: "Live Captions" uses an ML model to transcribe text realtime. It's wonderful for when a video doesn't have subtitles, or when you're participating in a video call (which might also not have CC). There's also a toggle mode that will transcribe based on microphone input. The default is to use system audio. flathub.org/apps/net.sapples.L…
  • Web page translations: Firefox, for the past few releases, has the ability to translate web pages completely local in-browser. It does need to download a small model file (a quantized one around 20 megabytes per language pair), but this happens automatically on first use. All you need to do is click the translate icon (when it's auto-detected) or go to the menu and select "Translate page...". Firefox is located in your distribution already (and is usually installed by default in most Linux distributions) and is available as an official package from Mozilla on Flathub as well. Newer versions keep improving on this, improving speed (it's pretty quick already), improving accuracy, improving reliability (sometimes you have to try to translate a couple of times on some pages), and adding languages. But what's there in the release of Firefox is already great.


Chat and image generation (more advanced)


While all the above are graphical apps and on Flathub (some may have distro packages too), there are some additional AI/ML things you can run on Linux as well:

  • Chat ML: "Ollama" (ollama.ai/) is a friendlier wrapper around llama.cpp and lets you run a variety of models (some FOSS, some just source-available-and-gratis, some not at all).

You can run Ollama in a container to make it even easier. Even a Podman container on your user account works. (You don't need to set it up as a system container.) The instructions for Docker work on Podman (just swap the docker command for podman instead).

While the official instructions only list CPU (which is fine for some of the smaller models) and NVidia, it's also possible to use an AMD GPU too:

# Enable device as user (run once per boot)
sudo setsebool container_use_devices=true

# Set up the ollama server for AMD acceleration (run once per session)
podman run --pull=always --replace --detach --device /dev/kfd --device /dev/dri --group-add video -v ollama:/root/.ollama -p 11434:11434 --name ollama ollama/ollama:0.1.22-rocm

# Command-line interaction (run any time you want to use it — the last part is which model you want to use)
podman exec -it ollama ollama run llama2

llama2 is the default ML; there are so many others available. Mixtral is a good one if you have enough vram on your GPU. Whatever you specify, it will auto-download and set it up for you. You only need to wait the first time. (The ROCm version of takes a while to download. Each model varies. The good thing is, it's all cached for subsequent uses.)

If you want a web UI like ChatGPT, then you could also run this instead of the command line interaction command:

podman run -d --replace -p 3000:8080 --add-host=host.docker.internal:host-gateway -v ollama-webui:/app/backend/data --name ollama-webui ghcr.io/ollama-webui/ollama-webui:main

...and visit http://localhost:3000/

When done, run podman stop ollama and podman stop ollama-webui to free up resources from your GPU.

There are also integrations for text editors and IDEs, similar to GitHub's CoPilot. Neovim has a few already. VS Code (or VS Codium) has some too (like twinny and privy).

  • Image generation: "Stable Diffusion" is the go-to here. There are a bunch of forks. Some of the better ones are:


Krita, GIMP, and Blender all have plugins that can interface with some of these too (usually using a SD Automatic111 API).

For Stable Diffusion on AMD, you need to have ROCm installed and might need to set or use an environment variable to make it work with your card. Something like:
HSA_OVERRIDE_GFX_VERSION=11.0.0 or HSA_OVERRIDE_GFX_VERSION=10.3.0 (depending on your GPU). Prefixing means just putting that at the beginning of the the command with a space and then the rest of the command. Setting it as a variable depends on your shell. You might need to export it for some (like for bash). Prefixing it is fine though, especially when you use ctrl+r to do a substrang search in your shell history (so you don't need to retype it or remember silly-long commands).

As using these image generating apps pulls down a lot of Python libraries, I'd suggest considering setting up a separate user account instead of using your own, so the app doesn't have access to your local files (like stuff in ~/.ssh/, ~/.local/, your documents, etc.). Setting up containers for these is not so easy (yet), sadly. Some people have done it. And they do run in a toolbox or distrobox podman container... but toolbox and distrobox containers don't really contain so much, so you're better off using podman (with a "docker" container) directly or running it as a separate account for some type of isolation from your user account files.

Everything else above is at least contained (via containers or Flatpak) to some degree... but stuff locally via pip installs can do anything. And it's not just hypothetical either, for example: PyTorch nightly was compromised for a few days on Christmas of 2022.

There are some graphical apps on Flathub for connecting to Stable Diffusion and a ChatGPT AI (which ollama now has)... but in the course of setting them up, you basically have a web and/or text-based UI to interact with.

My daughter told me that she has applied to get her masters. I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand it's highly likely that she'll make more money, but on the other hand, there is this thing that happens, where the more formal education somebody gets the dumber they become and somewhere along the way become dumb enough to become democrat experts that are always wrong about everything but never in doubt.

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The federal judge also told the administration to reinstate department employees who lost their jobs during the reduction-in-force announced in March.

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#1 - The future looks like more and more code generated by LLMs, and fewer and fewer programmers who can fix it. The "hallucination" problem's never going away, and there's no reason to believe they'll ever be capable of fixing all the bugs they generate.

#2 - Meanwhile, price plans for the most capable models are massively subsidised. At some point, prices will *have* to go up, and by at least an order of magnitude.

The race for AI companies is to make #1 a chronic problem before #2 happens.

in reply to Jason Gorman

I accidentally learned about the “subsidized destruction of markets to enact a monopoly” strategy back in the 1990s. A friend of mine owned a photocopy shop (remember those?) in a small college town. Kinko’s came into town and offered copies for far less than it costs to make, eating the losses for as long as it takes to kill off their competitors. My friend of course went out of business, and shortly after, Kinko’s raised their prices to much higher than his prices would have been.

After personally seeing that strategy in action, I now see it everywhere. Walmart did the same thing by killing off local stores. Amazon did it with online shipping. Every startup’s “disruption” strategy is basically this technique in disguise: Uber, AirBNB, and of course, AI. It’s all about destroying an industry in order to monopolize and enshittify it for profit.

#disruption #enshittification

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Fight together, so fight gets better


*Please read the whole text before commenting. (There are some passages where you might want to add something, because you didn't see that it's written in a different passage.) If you read alll of it, I'm open for custructive feedback and hope there will be a constructive discussion. There was a similiar post some time ago: feddit.org/post/10309044*

I not only recently had to watch a painful infight evolving in Lemmy's comment sections. Discussions which weren't real discussions anymore and felt like an endless comment fight of people who usually have so much in common.

I think I speak for most of Lemmy if I say the following:

Fascism is on rise around the world, has grabbed power in the United States of America and threatens all of us. We –mostly leftists– were able to create a democratic oasis of digital solidarity among like-minded people. A place where everyone can raise their voice, without getting suppressed by our worst digital enemy: BigTech, a tool and puppet of global fascism.
For being threatened by fascism, you don't even have to be a leftist, nor a highly political person at all, all that matters is to believe in democracy. All democrats are welcome, no matter what political attitude they have, we are united by democracy. We are people of all genders, ages, nationalities, languages and religions, agnosticism or atheism. Everyone can talk freely about every topic, as long as one accepts other opinions (may even change their own opinion) and shares the spirit of democracy and consideration.
We built this oasis, we are united by democracy, antifascism, freedom, tolerance and independence.

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And still we can't stop fighting against each other? No one here supports the rise of what hates this great community. We should stand together and share the spirit described. We certainly do to some extent, but every time we don't and instead of discussing start fighting against each other, the fascists will jump for joy, since we support their rise.
To based on facts discuss topics together is essential for us, it also is fascism's worst enemy. But to verbally tear us apart is fateful, it is one of fascism's best friends.
What divides us the most is something we have the least power to change. It's the ongoing war in Gaza. The Middle East conflicts have divided the minds of leftists/democrats like us for decades and since October 7th, 2023, one of them does even more.
Everyone has their own opinion, it's the way of democracy. Every democrat really interested in a discussion should be allowed to communicate their position. As democrats, we should discuss this topic. But let's not do it in a way that makes fascists to triumph and us to peter out in an endless fight regarding this topic which we can't really change. There are so many topics we could influence, one of the most obvious being to be a digital alternative to BigTech's platforms.


Generally:

  • The most important Usenet-rule for us: Don't feed the troll. If it's obvious that your discussion partner doesn't want to discuss constructively, don't answer. The most obvious trolls are those with accounts younger than a week (sometimes just insulting). If such an account appears in a discussion: Ignore + report. It might be a good idea to check the account age before discussing with someone.
  • What seems obvious is to argue in good faith.
  • Do not insult anybody, it won't help you nor anybody else. No lemmy user is a nazi/etc. At least I didn't see one so far. If you want to insult a lemmy user e.g. as nazi, first calm down, maybe wait some time before responding. If you still want to insult this user, it definitely is the better choice to ignore that user. Calling someone a nazi or insulting in another way is nothing that will help us in any sense. If a user actually advocates nazi ideas, it is a troll. If you want to start insulting: Don't do it. If it's a troll: Don't respond, don't feed it, just report it and shut up.
  • Please (!) use sources. If you state something which isn't your opinion or an obvious fact, don't say "Uh, I heard it somewhere", but name a reliable source.
  • If there's already an ongoing discussion between two users, only join it if you have something important to say. It's not very helpful if there are four people discussing with one person at the same time.

Now to Middle East:

What we should definitely agree on is the meaning of "Zionism".
The simple definition I have in mind is: Zionism is to advocate for the foundation of a Jewish national state (as a result of the Jewish experiences during the holocaust and centuries of persecution) and thus the approval for Israel to exist (which is one of the two conditions we need for a 2 state solution). That's the most common German definition, but it doesn't really fit e.g. the US-American definition. We might distinguish between zionism and neo-zionism, etc. German "Zionismus" does NOT mean killing all non-Jews on the territory you want to establish your state. If we can't find a solution, at least keep in mind that Zionism is defined differently by different people and maybe ask the person you're discussing with, what they mean by "Zionism". I saw way to many arguments among fellow lemmings who just had different definitions of Zionism and weren't aware that their counterparts didn't have the same definition.

Another difference: Comparing some genocide like the current one in Gaza to the Holocaust/Shoa may be a different thing outside of Germany. But from a German perspective: Claiming some genocide to be like the holocaust is to trivialise the holocaust. Hear me out. The holocaust was exactly one genocide during nazi Germany's 12 years, an industiralized and detailly plannend murdering of more than 6 million people. A genocide with so many victims hasn't happend again and since nazi Germany conducted it, Germans are especially aware of the holocaust. There are no "holocausts", because it's just this single event. Holocaust remembrance isn't about ranking human suffering, it's about preserving the truth of a uniquely horrifying event so that it is never repeated — in its actual form. If you compare the holocaust and some other genocide, then the holocaust starts to be just one genocide among many others. And there's not even need for comparing them. Every genocide is a tragedy, every death. At the same time, actual German neo-nazis and/or antisemites constantly try to trivialise the holocaust, also by comparing it to other genocides or comparing the millions of German deaths during the second world war. German source. For the reasons described, most Germans (myself included) do not compare the holocaust with anything else and perceive comparsions as antisemitic. Outside of Germany this perspective doesn't seem to be shared. But now you might understand why comparsions are perceived like that by Germans. If it's forbidden in German communities to compare holocaust and Gaza, it's not because criticizing the genocide in Gaza isn't allowed. Criticizing this current genocide of course is allowed, just comparsions to the holocaust aren't.

And more concrete for the current war in Gaza, I hope we can find an agreement on the following, I copied the first part (1-49) from here and edited some minor sentence-parts.

  1. Some Jews are shitty and awful people.
  2. Some Muslims are shitty and awful people.
  3. Some Christians are shitty and awful people.
  4. Some Arabs are shitty and awful people.
  5. Some Americans are shitty and awful people.
  6. Some Israelis are shitty and awful people.
  7. Some Palestinians are shitty and awful people.
  8. Not all Jews are Israelis.
  9. Not all Israelis are Jews.
  10. Not all Jews are white.
  11. Not all Israelis are white.
  12. Not all Muslims are Arabs.
  13. Not all Arabs are Muslim.
  14. Not all Palestinians are Muslim.
  15. Not all Arabs are Palestinian.
  16. Not all Palestinians are Hamas.
  17. Texans are not Arizonans.
  18. Germans are not Dutch.
  19. Palestinians are not Jordanians.
  20. Egyptians are not Palestinians.
  21. Where you are born does not actually determine anything about you.
  22. Your passport is not your political beliefs.
  23. Your government is not your morality.
  24. Not all Jews like the Israeli government.
  25. Not all Israelis like the Israeli government. [They actually protest against Netanyahu and the war.]
  26. Not all Palestinians like the Palestinian government. [They actually protest against Hamas and the war.]
  27. Israeli governments have committed acts of terror and violence [=> ongoing genocide] against the Palestinian people.
  28. Palestinian organizations have committed acts of terror and violence against the Israeli people.
  29. US leaders do things that we do not agree with (Trump).
  30. Israeli leaders do things that Israelis do not agree with.
  31. Palestinian leaders do things that Palestinians do not agree with.
  32. What happened to the Israeli civilians on 10/7 is fucking awful, and Hamas has earned every fucking thing that the Israeli military throws at them. [This point is about Hamas, not the genocide. Hamas supresses the Palestinian people and doesn't care about them dying, but it's still genocide by Israel which uses the Hamas as excuse. Hamas has earned it, but the civilians are victims of a genocide.][I personally just advocate for peace, but fine.]
  33. What is happening in Gaza to civilians is fucking awful, and not the smartest thing for Israel to do, and some aspects of Israeli military activity ~~may be~~ are war crimes, and it doesn’t have to be genocide for it to be tragic. [As far as I know, meanwhile several international organisations like UN have declared it a genocide, so that part is obsolete.]
  34. You can advocate for Palestine without being a racist, antisemitic piece of shit.
  35. You can advocate for the existence of Israel and some of its actions without being a racist, anti-Arab piece of shit. You can also call the current Israeli government right-wing nationalists since that's a tenable opinion.
  36. People like to have sex with each other, and they sometimes procreate with people outside their tribes.
  37. No one in the Levant is indigenous. Every fucking empire in history has fucked their way through the Levant. There is no pure indigeneity. And let’s be honest: the entire planet has been colonized by hominids from the Great Rift Valley.
  38. Palestinians and Israelis share paternal Bronze-Age DNA. Yes, even Ashkenazi Jews.
  39. Stop with the fucking history lessons about what the Israelites did, or what the Ottomans did, or what the British did, or whatever. IT IS FUCKING IMMATERIAL. There is a pile of dog shit in the living room. Instead of arguing about whose dog took the bigger shit in the living room, maybe focus on how we clean up the dog shit.
  40. Any people have a right to group together and self-identify as whatever-the-fuck-they-want-to-self-identify as. When they get large enough as a group, those people have the right to self-determination and self-respect and a state where they can control their own destinies.
  41. Whether you like the idea or not, the Israeli state exists. It will also continue to exist until the ISRAELI PEOPLE decide they don’t want it to exist. Your opinion on this matter (if you are not Israeli) is fucking immaterial.
  42. Whether you like the idea or not, a Palestinian state will exist at some point, and it will continue to exist until the PALESTINIAN PEOPLE decide they don’t want it to exist. Your opinion on this matter (if you are not Palestinian) is fucking immaterial.
  43. You cannot bomb a people into true submission — the Blitz did not ‘soften’ British morale.
  44. You cannot fight a war and kill a people’s desire for safety, freedom, and self-determination. You can stifle it. You can try to ignore it, but one way or another, you will have to deal with it. This is as true for my Israeli friends as it is for my Palestinian ones.
  45. The solution to the Middle East conflict will not be found on Threads, or TikTok, or [Lemmy or] in the streets of any city that isn’t within a 2-hour car ride from downtown Jerusalem. [Of course we can still discuss solutions, but we're not the diplomats who one day will solve it.]
  46. If you want to be an ally to Palestinian people, please feel free to continue to advocate for peace, security, and self-determination, but do it without dehumanizing or stereotyping Israelis and Jews.
  47. If you want to be an ally to Israeli people, please feel free to continue to advocate for peace, security, and self-determination, but do it without dehumanizing or stereotyping Palestinians and, Muslims, and Arabs.
  48. If you just want to advocate for peace, try to be a voice for reason, and don’t inflame or over-simplify an already chaotic, complicated, and deeply emotional issue. Help people find common ground and help bring the temperature down. You can be moral and stand up for what you believe in without being an asshole.
  49. Yes, an amazing one-state liberal democracy where Palestinian boys & girls could fuck Israeli boys & girls & make cute babies, & everybody spoke Hebrew & Arabic & we all agreed that hummus and falafel are delicious and Palestinian and sufganiyot are delicious and Israeli would be awesome. But this wonderful future has about as much chance of happening in the near term as this 5'8" 53-year-old Palestinian has being a starter for the Golden State Warriors. A two-state solution is the only workable one.
  50. Screw Hamas.
  51. Screw the current Israeli government.
  52. Screw the war criminal Netanyahu and his fascist friend Trump.
  53. Screw all the wars of aggression against Israel in the last decades.
  54. Screw the current Iranian dictatorship which btw. supports terror organizations like Hamas.
  55. Screw Hisbollah.
  56. Screw Taliban.
  57. Screw terror organizations in general.

The only ones suffering are the people of Middle East, who would suffer less with a democratic two state solution.

We as Lemmy-users should act as described earlier, constructively discuss the topic. Middle East is one little topic we do not agree on in comparsion to all the great things we can agree on. I hope this post establishes a basis we as Lemmy community can discuss on. There's so much worse in the world than fellow democrats who don't share your opinion. Don't let it divide us, let's fight fascism together.

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Firstly, i want to start off my comment to state a few things. I am arab living in the middle east myself, so i am very biased.

Look, i get where you're coming from; i do. But this there's a reason why we have such heavy disagreements. I'm going to comment on a few things, but know i'm not trying to come off as rude or accusative; just trying to discuss.

(I'm going to assume by your use of "democrat" you mean people who desire democracy, and not a US democrat)

And still we can’t stop fighting against each other? No one here supports the rise of what hates this great community. We should stand together and share the spirit described. We certainly do to some extent, but every time we don’t and instead of discussing start fighting against each other, the fascists will jump for joy, since we support their rise


Well, genocide is naturally going to have a lot of fierce debate around it. We can fight zionism and fascism at the same time, we don't have to stop the world for each and every single issue and solve them one by one; we can try to solve multiple.

It’s the ongoing war in Gaza


Genocide*

But let’s not do it in a way that makes fascists to triumph and us to peter out in an endless fight regarding this topic which we can’t really change. There are so many topics we could influence, one of the most obvious being to be a digital alternative to BigTech’s platforms.


I heavily disagree. Apathy is just exploited by the enemy. Even if our total impact is small, it is worth it.

Generally:

The most important Usenet-rule for us: Don’t feed the troll. If it’s obvious that your discussion partner doesn’t want to discuss constructively, don’t answer. The most obvious trolls are those with accounts younger than a week (sometimes just insulting). If such an account appears in a discussion: Ignore + report. It might be a good idea to check the account age before discussing with someone.

What seems obvious is to argue in good faith.

Do not insult anybody, it won’t help you nor anybody else. No lemmy user is a nazi/etc. At least I didn’t see one so far. If you want to insult a lemmy user e.g. as nazi, first calm down, maybe wait some time before responding. If you still want to insult this user, it definitely is the better choice to ignore that user. Calling someone a nazi or insulting in another way is nothing that will help us in any sense. If a user actually advocates nazi ideas, it is a troll. If you want to start insulting: Don’t do it. If it’s a troll: Don’t respond, don’t feed it, just report it and shut up.

Please (!) use sources. If you state something which isn’t your opinion or an obvious fact, don’t say “Uh, I heard it somewhere”, but name a reliable source.

If there’s already an ongoing discussion between two users, only join it if you have something important to say. It’s not very helpful if there are four people discussing with one person at the same time.


I wholeheartedly agree.

What we should definitely agree on is the meaning of “Zionism”. The simple definition I have in mind is: Zionism is to advocate for the foundation of a Jewish national state (as a result of the Jewish experiences during the holocaust and centuries of persecution) and thus the approval for Israel to exist (which is one of the two conditions we need for a 2 state solution). That’s the most common German definition, but it doesn’t really fit e.g. the US-American definition


That's debatable, since zionism is about advocating for an ethnostate. But your latter comment, it not fitting the "US-American" definition is false. It's the most widely used definition. Hell, it's literally the original definition. Zionism is about the Palestine region, not just anywhere.

Why am i bringing this up? Because there were already people there. No matter what, they don't just have a right to establish their own ethnostate, claiming the land where there were already people of different ethnicities/cultures living there for an incredibly long time.

This is afaik about zionism and i may be missing something. So, if i got something wrong here, then please correct me.

What is happening in Gaza to civilians is fucking awful, and not the smartest thing for Israel to do, and some aspects of Israeli military activity ~~may be~~ are war crimes, and it doesn’t have to be genocide for it to be tragic. [As far as I know, meanwhile several international organisations like UN have declared it a genocide, so that part is obsolete.]


"Not the smartest thing to do" is a bit of an understatement, it's a genocide after all 😁

Stop with the fucking history lessons about what the Israelites did, or what the Ottomans did, or what the British did, or whatever. IT IS FUCKING IMMATERIAL. There is a pile of dog shit in the living room. Instead of arguing about whose dog took the bigger shit in the living room, maybe focus on how we clean up the dog shit.


The first thing that should be done first and foremost, is stopping the violence and genocide. But to claim history has absolutely no stake/meaning in this is wrong.

We as Lemmy-users should act as described earlier, constructively discuss the topic. Middle East is one little topic we do not agree on in comparsion to all the great things we can agree on


I'm sure this is worded wrong, but one little topic? There are hundreds of thousands of human beings suffering and dying because of these conflicts, It is not a little topic. This isn't a small disagreement to have with someone.

That's it. Apologies if i sounded rude anywhere, it's 9pm and i'm tired 😁

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