As the internal contradictions continue to sharpen within the imperialist bloc, the military alliance is starting to show fractures in its unity.
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Italian defence minister questions relevance of NATO
Guido Crosetto argued that NATO must adjust to a more global reality, and that the alliance in its current forBryn Stole (EURACTIV)
Yogthos
Unknown parent • • •@joeinwynnewood the calls for global expansion are just bluster. It's a desperate attempt at remaining relevant.
What's important here is that these discussions are happening at all. The part you quoted is an admission that the unipolar world centred on the west is now dead.
Yogthos
Unknown parent • • •@joeinwynnewood this is pure and utter nonsense. European members of NATO are not pulling together in any way, in fact they're increasingly bickering with each other in a panic.
The whole purpose of NATO was to act as a US protection racket for Europe. Now that the US is pivoting to Asia, Europe will be left to fend for itself.
There is no conceivable way that Europe could ever replace the US industrial power on its own in the foreseeable future.
Yogthos
Unknown parent • • •@joeinwynnewood just look at the rhetoric between Italy, France, Germany, and Hungary as few examples. There is no consistent policy, and lots of recrimination. The reality is that the EU is in deep economic trouble now, and the demand for increased NATO spending is necessarily creating a lot of tension.
The US can't keep up with the production for Ukraine either, let alone with the war with Iran they started, and their ambitions on China.
Yogthos
in reply to Yogthos • • •Yogthos
Unknown parent • • •@joeinwynnewood I see you're a fan of false dichotomies. Nobody is saying the rest of the world doesn't have its own problems. However, it's pretty clear that BRICS economies are doing far better than G7, and BRICS is already a bigger economic bloc using PPP measure.
Meanwhile, BRICS control majority of resources, manufacturing, and global energy production. China alone has effective monopoly on rare earths.
Europe is very obviously in a far worse position here.
Yogthos
in reply to Yogthos • • •Grassroots Joe
in reply to Yogthos • • •BRICS isn't so much an economic block as a collection of countries looking for some kind of leverage in global affairs.
But it's really only China that controls a majority of resources, manufacturing and renewables and no one trusts China.
That's reality.
Yogthos
in reply to Grassroots Joe • • •@joeinwynnewood I'm not ignoring anything, BRICS does not require trust because it's not a system of vassalage or a military alliance the way NATO is. BRICS is an economic system where countries participate due to mutual benefit.
Meanwhile, the reality is very different your deranged sinophobia.
scienceblog.com/for-the-first-…
Life is going to get really hard for people like you because the empire is dying, and the human majority is rising up.
Grassroots Joe
in reply to Yogthos • • •There is no doubt that The Criminal in the White House has ended the American Century, but that isn't because of anything China has done to garner greater love.
It's ridiculous to claim that trust isn't necessary for economic cooperation.
There is no mutual benefit with China. There is only whether or not China can and will extract more from their economic relationships sooner or later.
The CCP has always had a singular prime directive, to ensure the continued rule of the CCP.
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Grassroots Joe
in reply to Grassroots Joe • • •The necessary corollary is ensuring that the Chinese population can be kept in line, however that is accomplished.
The long term interests of other countries are relevant only to the extent that those interests impact on the CCP's prime directive.
There can be no trust that China won't screw you over if their prime directive requires it.
This ensures an underlying instability for BRICS that cannot be fixed.
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Yogthos
in reply to Grassroots Joe • • •@joeinwynnewood uh yeah it is because China has been building infrastructure and creating positive win/win relationships with the world.
China builds while burgerland bombs. Everyone who's not a propagandized wasp can see that.
Yogthos
Unknown parent • • •@joeinwynnewood I love how you just continue to confidently spew nonsense that the propagandists feed you. Here's what these "extractive" relationships look like in practice.
eurasiareview.com/01022021-chi…
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cf…
theatlantic.com/international/…
theconversation.com/china-and-…
There Is No Chinese ‘Debt Trap’
Deborah Brautigam (The Atlantic)Grassroots Joe
in reply to Grassroots Joe • • •This doesn't mean China won't dominate the next century, they likely will, Trump is working hard to make sure of that, but they won't threaten Europe, at least not for a very long time, because Europe doesn't threaten their prime directive.
China will continue to build extractive relationships with the developing world where they have the leverage to do so, and they will be sure to not give India or any other BRICS member leverage over them.
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Grassroots Joe
in reply to Grassroots Joe • • •Meanwhile, India will have to continue to look to the west for sizable portion of their economic growth opportunities for reasons of who has the money if nothing else.
They will also continue to need to procure a lot of military hardware from places that aren't China, because as per above, China really, really cannot be trusted and yes, trust matters.
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Yogthos
in reply to Grassroots Joe • • •@joeinwynnewood@mstdn.social China is an actual democracy unlike the fascist oligarchy you live under. This is what a dictatorship of the working class looks like. You're an ignoramus and you should be deeply ashamed of yourself.
bloomberg.com/opinion/articles…
jasonhickel.substack.com/p/stu…
socialistchina.org/2025/03/27/…
Studies show strong public support for China’s political system - Friends of Socialist China
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