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According to NATO, Russia has reached a casualty rate of over one million in its war against Ukraine, indicating a continued high tolerance for losses.
Israel has been exposed as a dependent colony that relies on the West for its military adventures. And even still, it has failed to turn this advantage over Iran into strategic success. The Israel doctrine appears to be meeting its limits.
It's no surprise that Stephen Miller owns a large stake in Palantir, but it's not just about getting rich - the Trump administration marks a coming together a Tech-Right authoritarians and neo-fascists who want ethnic-cleansing.
On January 20th, at a ceremony attended by both far-Right and neo-fascist leaders from around the globe and some of the richest tech billionaires in the world, including the heads of Apple, Google,...
Greece: Thousands of people demonstrated on Monday June 23 in Athens and other cities of Greece against the escalation of the imperialist war and the participation of Greece in it. #WFTUwftucentral.org/greece-thousan…
EV-Carrying Ship Sinks In Pacific Ocean After Catching Fire - An anonymous reader quotes a report from Transport Topics: A ship that caught fire... - tech.slashdot.org/story/25/06/… #transportation
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Transport Topics: A ship that caught fire in the Pacific Ocean earlier this month has sunk. The vessel was abandoned in the middle of the pacific -- about 360 miles from land -- after a blaze.
The headline included "influencer" which I generally could care less about. Clicked anyway--and aw, shit. Too fucking soon. What a lovely human she was. Goddammit. There's SO many other people that SHOULD be dead. Not her.
my gut feeling is without an assessment on site nobody can say for sure whether these facilities were destroyed or damaged and to what extent.
3x MOP bombs, with the ability to penetrate 18 meters of reinforced concrete, in close to the same location in succession, vs 90m of rock, dirt and some amount of reinforced concrete above the facility.
i think it depends a lot on the composition and stability of the rock above the facility and how reinforced the structure was, and how well timed the blasts were, the angle and some other variables.
you need someone on the ground to assess the extent of the damage, so i call BS on the CNN report and also on trump's claim that it was totally obliterated, until someone has proof one way or another.
Emergency protest at the US Embassy... Many fine Speeches and a good sized crowd at such short notice... Things were winding down and then these Palestinian sisters started up with the megaphones, drummers joined in, it was rocking... They kept it going for about 20 mins I captured seven minutes before my battery cut out...
La Ville de Lyon va progressivement remplacer la suite Microsoft par des logiciels bureautiques libres, dont « Only Office pour la bureautique, ainsi que Linux et PostgreSQL pour les systèmes et bases de données ».
La Ville de Lyon va progressivement remplacer la suite Microsoft par des logiciels bureautiques libres, dont « Only Office pour la bureautique, ainsi que Linux et PostgreSQL pour les systèmes et bases de données ».
Iran und Israel verbindet eine tiefe Feindschaft. Doch stimmt das Narrativ der Vernichtungsdrohung? Eine Analyse zeigt: Übersetzungsfehler spielen eine wichtige Rolle.
We're in the middle of a legal power struggle between Trump and California Gov. Newsom as judge blocks deployment of National Guard troops sent to quell anti-ICE riots in Los Angeles.
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An IT security guy at a place I once worked said the executives were the biggest security vulnerability the company had because they wanted what they wanted and didn't care much about security. I think that's what tool Maersk down a few years ago - some exec installed malware that spread to the entire network.
"they normally put big all caps bold red warning if the person is a VIP, eg C suite, so they get VIP service - ie anything goes."
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People keep telling me that X11 doesn’t support DPI scaling, or fractional scaling, or multiple monitors, or something. There’s nothing you can do to make it work. I find this surprising. Why doesn’t it work? I figure the best way to find out is try the impossible and see how far we get.
I’m just going to draw a two inch circle on the screen. This screen, that screen, any screen, the circle should always be two inches. Perhaps not the most exciting task, but I figure it’s isomorphic to any other scaling challenge. Just imagine it’s the letter o or a button we wish to draw at a certain size.
I have gathered around me a few screens of different sizes and resolutions. My laptop screen, and then a bit to the right a desktop monitor, and then somewhere over that way a nice big TV. Specifically:
$ xrandr | grep \ connected
eDP connected primary 2880x1800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 302mm x 189mm
DisplayPort-0 connected 2560x1440+2880+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 590mm x 334mm
DisplayPort-1 connected 3840x2160+5440+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1600mm x 900mm
I think I just spoiled the ending, but here we go anyway.
I’m going to draw the circle with OpenGL, using a simple shader and OBT. There’s a bunch of not very exciting code to create a window and a GLX context, but eventually we’re going to be looking at the shader. This may not be the best way to draw a circle, but it’s my way. For reference, the full code is in circle.c.
I got a little carried away and made a pretty color wheel instead of a flat circle.
The key variable is radius which tells us how many pixels from the center the circle should be. But where does the shader get this from?
glUniform1f(0, radius);
Okay, but seriously. We listen for configure events. This is the X server telling us our window has been moved or resized. Something has changed, so we should figure out where we are and adjust accordingly.
It’s somewhat annoying that physical width and virtual width are in different structures, and we have to put the puzzle back together, but there it is.
Some more code to handle expose events, the draw loop, etc., and that’s it. A beautiful circle sized just right. Drag it over onto the next monitor, and it changes size. Or rather, it maintains its size. Send it over to the next monitor, and same as before.
Time for the visual proof. A nice pretty circle on my laptop. Another circle on my monitor. And despite the 4K resolution, a somewhat pixely circle on my TV. Turns out the hardest part of this adventure was trying to hold an uncooperative tape measure in place with one hand while trying to get a decent, or not, photo with the other.
We were so close to perfection. Somebody at the factory screwed up, and my TV is actually 66.5” wide, not the claimed 63 inches. So if we learn anything today, it’s that you shouldn’t use a consumer LG TV for accurately measuring the scale of structural engineering diagrams, at least not without further calibration.
The good news is we’ve done the impossible. Even better, I didn’t mention that I wasn’t actually running this program on my laptop. It was running on my router in another room, but everything worked as if by MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1. Alas, we are still no closer to understanding why people say this is impossible.
Anyway, I think the point is we should probably ignore the people who can’t do something when they tell us we can’t do it either. I woke up this morning not knowing precisely how to draw a scaled circle, having never done so before, but armed with a vague sense that surely it must be possible, because come on of course it is, I got it working. And now look at me, driven insane by the relentless stare of three unblinking eyes.
With my new knowledge, I also wrote an onscreen ruler using the shape extension. Somewhat tautological for measuring the two inch circle, but in the event anyone asks, I can now tell them my terminal line height is 1/8”, and yes, I measured.
DragonForce Ransomware Cartel are claiming credit for attacks on Marks and Spencer, Co-op and Harrods and say more victim orgs are coming bloomberg.com/news/articles/20…
@se I wonder... maybe the Palo Alto Global Protect firewalls are somehow related to the breach perhaps? That particular software product has had some well documented (CVE) vulnerabilities in the past year related to VPN, plus there's been some pretty serious PAN-OS RCE issues too. Hope everything was patched!
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Co-op Group have shut down some systems due to a cyber incident, however retail stores are still trading uninterrupted (which is core to their business).
Co-op Group have now admitted a significant amount of member (customer) information has been stolen by DragonForce Ransomware Cartel, saying they "accessed data relating to a significant number of our current and past members" - around 20 million people. The Membership database, basically. That includes home addresses and phone numbers etc.
Up until now Co-op hadn't even used the words cyber or threat actor, referring to an "IT issue" and "third party" in comms.
for someone who is unfamiliar with the UK retail market, do you happen to know if Co-op is at all related to the Swedish company Coop that suffered from a major ransomware attack a couple of years ago?
The individuals operating under the DragonForce banner and attacking UK high street retailers are using social engineering for entry. I think it’s in the public interest to break down what is…
"Advanced Persistant Toerags", as Ian Levy would put it. Basics don't sell boxes, and when the narrative is controlled by the box-sellers, the basics get neglected.
Was reading your "Actions for Defenders", pt #1 - what are some good suggestions for IT/helpdesk to vet the legitimacy of an "employee" - when was the last time you called the helpdesk? who is your boss's boss? how many times have you worked from home/used VPN in the past month? like what else would be a surefire thing that ONLY a legit employee would know... that the helpdesk could look up that an intruder wouldn't be able to?
Regarding IOCs around the UK retailer activity - there’s loads doing the rounds, and they’re almost all not useful.
Eg hundreds of dynamic VPN IPs from 2022. If you google them you’ll find them on vendor blogs from years ago for Scattered Spider - people are recycling in panic and passing around in panic.
Don’t hunt on random IOCs. IP addresses change. Strengthen foundational controls. Review sign in logs for abnormal activity etc.
UK cyber security at private firms tends to be very poor on average but social engineering remains the hacker's most effective tool.
Slack and Teams access in particular seems like a large attack vector. I believe the Twitter hack a few years back - when it was Twitter - was facillitated by superuser creds being pinned to a slack channel.
Rebuilding business is prioritised by importance. If the online shop is a small side hustle compared to the brick&mortar ones (or is much slower), then it’s lower priority.
Communicating the current status and expected progress is better, builds trust.
Wages usually are handled as lump payment, i.e. the same sum as last mont - and corrected later when the HR systems are back online.
The incidence response team should cover IT forensics, BCM and communication.
When I was in an M&S yesterday they had card payment working fine but they were having obvious fresh stock problems. While M&S online shopping is probably large for them, they also have a deal with Ocado to do M&S food deliveries, so I suspect that might still be partially going.
“a former chief executive at another firm and had to deal with a data breach” is an awkward way to say “overpaid jackass who was fired for his handling of a data breach”
There's a report on ITV News that Co-op member data is available on the Dark Web(tm), but as far as I know this isn't accurate. DragonForce's portal hasn't been available for over a week.
Here's the ITV News report anyhoo, logline: "ITV News understands the the ongoing cyberattack faced by the supermarket has worsened since Friday, impacting the ordering system, drivers and warehouse staff."
I'm not sure people realise that "members" are mutual owners, but "customers" are anyone using co-op services, whether members or not. Not sure which are in the data breach - perhaps both? I think the members' db is probably separate.
Sunday Times has a piece looking into ransomware incident at Marks and Spencer. It's pretty good, goes into their contain and eradicate focus.
"By shutting down parts of the IT estate, Higham’s team had worked to prevent the attack from spreading, but had also stopped parts of its digital operations from functioning. This was considered a worthy trade-off."
One error in the article - lack of recovery doesn't mean no ransomware paid. Paying is not quick restoration.
There’s a piece in The Sunday Times today about the DragonForce ransomware incident at Marks and Spencer which caught my eye. It’s a great piece, e.g. it looks at M&S containing the threat to…
Sky News quote a source in M&S head office saying Marks and Spencer have no ransomware incident plan so they are making it up as they go along apparently, with staff sleeping in the office and communicating via WhatsApp.
M&S dispute this, saying they have robust business continuity plans.
One of the points of exploitation of large orgs is they usually outsource their Service Desk to somewhere cheap offshore who don’t know the org staff, and when you call and say your name, they normally put big all caps bold red warning if the person is a VIP, eg C suite, so they get VIP service - ie anything goes.
Co-op Group appear to be trying to course correct with their cyber incident comms.
They’re calling it a cyber incident now, and have put a statement on the front page of their website, along with an FAQ. They haven’t yet emailed members (they should). Edit: they’ve started emailing members.
It sounds like the situation at Co-op has got worse. They’ve stopped taking card payments in some stores, it’s cash only. telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/…
One thing for media covering the Co-op thing - attackers are not impersonating IT help desks to gain access. They’re impersonating *staff* calling in to the IT help desks - they’re different things.
The Co-op is redirecting food and drink supplies to stores in rural and remote areas in a bid to protect isolated communities from shortages following a serious cyber attack.
I just did a Shodan Safari on Co-op - basically all their Windows and Linux systems in their core DCs at network boundary are down, it's not just EDI. It's been like that for just under a week, prior to that things were still online.
I feel really bad for them as it's a great org. Also their CEO is basically the only one who stood up like this for trans people.
If you're wondering about Marks and Spencer - I just did a Shodan Safari of their network boundary, Palo-Alto GlobalProtect VPN remote access access is still offline, 15 days later.
Online orders are still not working, and the store stock checker is disabled now.
Marks and Spencer’s online shopping is still offline 3 weeks later. It is thought they have lost around £63m so far, excluding IR, BCP and ransom payment costs. drapersonline.com/news/ms-onli…
The activity we have observed has been attributed to a threat group that Microsoft tracks as DEV-0537, also known as LAPSUS$. DEV-0537 is known for using a pure extortion and destruction model without deploying ransomware payloads.
For anybody wondering what 'dial into the incident response bridge' means, it means they'll literally Teams call into cyber IR bridges as themselves and just extort you to your face. They'll also call CISOs etc. Bad Times at the El Royale.
Marks & Spencer bureau de change staff are being forced to use pen and paper to serve customers as a result of the cyber attack on the retailer and cannot accept card payment. thisismoney.co.uk/money/market…
M&S bureau de change staff are being forced to use pen and paper to serve customers. The travel money desks are also unable to accept card payments in some cases.
Co-op Group have provided some more detail about what it’s doing about remote lifeline stores (ones where they’re the main/only retailer on an island):
“From Monday, 12 of the most remote lifeline stores will receive treble the volume of available product, and another 20 lifeline stores will get double the volume.” bbc.com/news/articles/c071e7x8…
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I think Co-op may have stopped recruitment too, they’re a big employer so usually have hundreds of open positions - currently they have 17, and most close today and the rest in a few days.
U.K. retailer the Co-op is still having trouble with keeping grocery shelves stocked as it continues to respond to an attempted cyberattack that forced it to shut down some systems two weeks ago.
Allianz supplies Marks and Spencer's cyber insurance, and will apparently suffer a full tower loss (i.e. it's going to be expensive) insuranceinsider.com/article/2…
Co-op stores in Sheffield, Badenoch, Dunfermline and many other places are apparently running out of produce - it's not possible to keep up with the local media reports but they're basically bored reporters get sent out to photograph half empty fridges.
This ITV News report linking the Co-op and M&S breaches to SIM swapping is not accurate, no source given. itv.com/news/2025-05-12/sim-sw…
They also have a report today saying Co-op stores are restocked, which is also not accurate - that one is sourced from Co-op, but obviously doesn’t stack up to looking in Co-op stores.
If anybody is wondering, all of Marks and Spencer's Palo-Alto GlobalProtect VPN boxes are still offline, 3 weeks later. Pretty good containment method to keep attackers out.
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M&S use Palo-Alto GlobalProtect for VPN, they took all the endpoints offline days ago (usually first stage containment for ransomware/extortion groups).
M&S confirm my toot from 3 days ago that a significant amount of customer and staff data was stolen. They’ve known for weeks but opted not to tell anybody. bbc.com/news/articles/c62v34zv…
Re the Co-op Group breach, Co-op say home addresses of customers were exfiltrated (it was the membership database). This one dates back to my May 2nd toot upthread re home addresses - at the time, they didn't specify home addresses.
Co-op's AGM is this weekend, and M&S yearly results and investor contact are next week.
Gonna be awkward for different reasons, e.g. Co-op is member (customer) owned, so the people's data Co-op had stolen are effectively the shareholders and are invited.
The Channel Islands Coop, which is different to Co-op Group, has been able to restock shelves by moving away from Co-op Group for supply distribution and moving to local suppliers. bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3d4xv…
The Grocer reports Nisa and Costcutter are running out of fruit & veg, fresh meat and poultry, dairy products, chilled ready meals, snacks and desserts.
Nisa and Costcutter are supplied by Co-op Wholesale, which is dependent on Co-op Group.
“It’s really poor. I feel bad for them but what makes it worse is their hush-hush mentality about it. There’s no proper level of communication and we get random updates.”
In communications sent to retailers, the symbol groups listed products that were either ‘temporarily unavailable’ or ‘out of stock’ as a result of supplier issues
Co-op Group have told their suppliers that "systemic-based orders will resume for ambient, fresh, and frozen products commencing Wednesday 14 May". They say forecasting system will still be impacted.
Financial Times report Marks and Spencer expect to claim £100m on their cyber insurance, the maximum allowed, suggesting losses probably more. ft.com/content/723b6195-1ce7-4…
If you want figures for your board to set expectations in big game ransomware incidents, Co-op containment just over 2 weeks, M&S just over 3 weeks so far - recovery comes after.
In terms of external assistance, Co-op have Microsoft Incident Response (DART), KPMG and crisis comms. M&S have CrowdStrike, Microsoft, Fenix and crisis comms.
The threat actor at Co-op says Co-op shut systems down, which appears to have really pissed off the threat actor. This was the right, and smart, thing to do.
While I was at Co-op we did a rehearsal of ransomware deployment on point of sale devices with the retail team, and the outcome was a business ending event due to the inability to take payments for a prolonged period of time. So early intervention with containment was the right thing to do, 100%.
Marks and Spencer say food distribution to their stores is returning to normal. It follows Co-op's announcement yesterday that food and drink distribution will begin to return to normal from the weekend. reuters.com/business/retail-co…
The link in the article to Vectra Cognito AI has a Coop Sweden logo on it, and the Coop Sweden CISO is named. Coop Sweden is different company. Coop Sweden went on to have a ransomware attack that crippled the org, including point of sale, so I don't think it's a good sales point. Same with Silverfort.
Google AI has ingested the article and now uses it to claim Co-op Group use the tools.
The Times reports M&S were breached through a contractor and that human error is to blame. (Both M&S and Co-op use TCS for their IT Service Desk).
The threat actor went undetected for 52 hours. (I suspect detection was when their ESXi cluster got encrypted).
M&S have told the Times they had no “direct” communication with DragonForce, which is code for they’re using a third party to negotiate - standard practice.
M&S looks to be moving to reposition their incident as a third party failure, which I imagine will help redirect some of the blame (they present their financial results during the week to investors): bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpqe21…
Both M&S and Co-op outsourced their IT, including their Service Desk (helpdesk), to TCS (Tata) around 2018, as part of cost savings.
There's nothing to suggest TCS itself have a breach btw.
Basically, if you go for the lowest cost helpdesk - you might want to follow the NCSC advice on authenticating password and MFA token resets.
I've put a 3 part deep dive blog series coming out probably next week called Living-Off-The-Company, which is about how teenagers have realised large orgs have outsourced to MSPs who follow the same format of SOP documentation, use of cloud services etc. Orgs have introduced commonality to surf.
The Office of the Privacy Commissioner for Personal Data (PCPD) has confirmed that Marks and Spencer (M&S) Hong Kong has not informed it of a recent customer data leak, nor responded to its enquiries. hongkongfp.com/2025/05/19/ms-h…
The Office of the Privacy Commissioner for Personal Data says M&S Hong Kong has not informed it of a recent customer data leak, nor responded to its enquiries.
"Cyber analysts and retail executives said the company had been the victim of a ransomware attack, had refused to pay - following government advice - and was working to reinstall all of its computer systems."
Not sure who those analysts are, but since DragonForce haven't released any data and M&S won't comment other than to say they haven't had any "direct" contact with DragonForce, I wouldn't make that assumption.
There's also a line in the article from an cyber industry person saying "if it can happen to M&S, it can happen to anyone" - it's ridiculous and defeatist given Marks and Spencer haven't shared any technical information about how it happened, other than to tell The Sunday Times it was "human error"
The Air Safety version of cyber industry would be a plane crashing into 14 other planes, and industry air safety people going "Gosh, if that can happen to British Airways it could happen to anybody!"
I made this point a few weeks ago, but... outsourcing all your IT, Networks, Service Desk (helpdesk) and operational cybersecurity is a temporary cost saving and basically paints a ticking timebomb on the org, IMHO.
M&S say online ordering will be stopped until sometime in July, and it has taken a £300m hit, far higher than analysts had predicted. bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93llk…
The NCA has confirmed on the record that the investigation into the M&S and Co-op hack is focused on English teenagers. I could toot the names of the people I think they’ll pick up, but won’t.
The CEO of M&S has declined to comment if they have paid a ransom. For the record: I’ve heard they have, in secret, via their insurance. reuters.com/business/retail-co…
I guess it's low risk since the electronic displays are basically paper - Dumb eink displays that you update via RFID from a handheld. (The ones I saw in the local coop worked that way anyway.)
This stuff is brilliant. Based on e-paper and runs on Zigbee.
And they can raise the prices between you picking things off the shelf and going through the checkout and you'll have no proof that it was offered at a lower price.
e-paper price labels are apparently extremely common in mainland Europe. The UK is extremely slow to adopt things like this.
*In theory*, during an incident, the labels would remain as-is until they receive a new price. So TAs would specifically need to target the pricing database prior to wiping.
TCS has a security incident running around the M&S breach.
Interestingly the source claims TCS aren't involved in Co-op's IT - which is categorically false, they took over most of it while I worked there, including the helpdesk, and my team (SecOps) after I left.
While Co-op have restored every customer facing system and internal systems like recruitment and remote working, M&S still don't even have recruitment back.
I'm reliably told they paid the ransom, so they'll be target #1 basically forever with other ransomware groups now due to resiliency woes and willingness to pay.
Marks and Spencer's remuneration committee have opted not to dock the CEOs pay as expected and prior reported over the cyber incident, but instead increased it by £2m. bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c23mz5…
Marks & Spencer is holding walk-in in-store recruitment open days to fill vacant roles while its online hiring system remains offline following its ransomware attack in April. thegrocer.co.uk/news/mands-sto…
This Daily Mail piece about security leaders thinking work-from-home means they will be crippled is horseshit, I'm not linking it.
They've taken a survey about how security people think their businesses couldn't survive ransomware, and linked it to working from home. WFH isn't the problem: business IT and resilience being built on quicksand is the problem.
The 'WFH' allegations seem in especially bad faith given the suspected entry point for the M&S compromise: the outsourced helpdesk.
Those guys are even more compliant labor than work-not-from-home employees, so the Daily Heil isn't going to say anything; but lack even the (informal; but in practice often at least reasonably effective) "does the IT person you just poked recognize who is interrupting with a password question?" ID verification step with onsite workers and onsite IT.
I could draft an opposing headline about how ransomware and cyber threats will naturally proliferate faster and more easily within a physical network than it will in a distributed environment. It wouldn't be the whole story either, but it's just as true.
I WFH 100% of the time. I never connect to an office "network". The only way I could spread any form of malicious payload to my colleagues is through shared communications platforms which not only requires ME to fuck up so that my account is used to send that payload to others, but it then requires the recipients to ALSO screw up and make mistakes like open dodgy links or attachments. WFH provises an additional buffer to protect an organisation, in my opinion.
I think they did a great job. They do call it a "highly sophisticated attack", which, frankly.. isn't true and may come out in open court later if the suspects are ever caught.
6 weeks from containment to "near full" recovery, for statto nerds like me who track this stuff.
I'm sure the logic of 'work from home' being an existential threat while extensive exposure to outsourced managed services is just good sense must only baffle me because I'm not the sort of person who deserves a bonus that brings me up to £7 million for the year; not because it's questionable.
TCS have told shareholders their systems were not compromised in the hack of M&S.
As an explainer here (not in the article): TCS IT systems weren't compromised. Their helpdesk service (they're AD admins at M&S) was used to gain access to M&S. They manage M&S IT systems. reuters.com/business/media-tel…
M&S haven't been able to supply sales data - so the British Retail Consortium (BRC) - used by the UK government as as economic indicator - basically made up figures for M&S and didn't tell people they had done this.
Ultra spicy post claiming to be from UK retailer employee (M&S or Co-op) about their experience with TCS on their security incident. reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/com…
I'd be very curious to know what the breakdown is between TCS dropping the ball and lying about it and M&S/Co-op not actually insisting on adequate procedure.
It's not terribly uncommon for people to only care about time-to-resolution with some lip service to user satisfaction when it comes to helpdesk metrics; and tacitly discourage things that are slow and unpleasant like hassling people for ID, at least until that becomes a visibly terrible idea.
as someone who has been subjected to Tata on multiple occasions going back over a decade?
This isn't nearly spicy enough. I don't even describe them as a 'body shop' because they'd gladly route you to a corpse and try to charge extra for '24x7 coverage.'
When one employer did a basic security audit of their helpdesk services, Tata failed so severely that the contract was pulled for cause before the audit was even completed. They moved it all back in-house.
The root problem here isn't that TCS are shockingly bad (they are, just about everyone knows that).
The root problem is that "management decisions" constantly overrule those that raise concerns about their service and tell any remaining internal IT and security staff to "deal with it as best you can."
I'm very much of the view that, yes, the outsourced provider can be the cause of an incident, they can provide a shockingly bad service, they can cost your business millions of pounds. But the decision to continue to use them when you already know this is a real possibility - that's a decision by senior management within the company. That's on you.
Interesting. I don't have the background on this specific attack, but I'm reminded of the Target credit card theft. An HVAC company near me was the point of entry for the attackers; they had high-access keys to Target's intranet because they install and maintain shopping-mall-grade HVAC and can remote-override it for maintenance and schedule reasons (nation-scale chain stores with giant footprints save not-inconsequential money on things like "Don't power up the HVAC to normal capacity on days nobody is here").
They had the keys on the same machine running their webserver.
(Meanwhile, Target actually did get an SEC slap-on-the-wrist for one specific thing: the HVAC intranet piece wasn't firewalled from the financial transactions and cash register source code pieces).
I’m certainly no IT security expert, but if your system is getting popped by three kids, does that perhaps indicate that you may have missed a few opportunities for improvement in the past? 🤔
If you ever doubted the link between Scattered Spider(tm) and LAPSUS$ - one of the people arrested today was a key part of the LAPSUS$ attacks a few years ago.
Authorities in the United Kingdom this week arrested four alleged members of "Scattered Spider," a prolific data theft and extortion group whose recent victims include multiple airlines and the U.K. retail chain Marks & Spencer.
Co-op finally admitted the entire membership database was stolen
I had this in the thread months ago, they originally tried to deny it entirely then tried to say ‘some’ data was accessed when they knew it was the whole thing.
Personally I think Co-op did a really good job getting out of that situation and minimising impact.
I definitely think if you have a LAPSUS$ style advanced persistent teenagers situation, tilt towards open and honest comms as those kids will use secrecy against ya. It’s 2025, it’s okay to say you got hacked, people largely understand. Also, in IR, lawyers are usually stuck in 1980 advice - it’s just advice, they ain’t yo boss.
When GDPR was being introduced, I got to see *so much* bad advice being given to companies by their lawyers that it made me realise how many lawyers really are making it up in the spot as much as everyone else - and therefore bringing their own biases and misapplied experiences.
It’s 2025, it’s okay to say you got hacked, people largely understand.
Probably the most damning indictment of the entire computing industry that I've seen for a long time.
I don't disagree at all. But this absolutely should not be the case and wouldn't be if we weren't still building core infrastructure around ideas that were known to be bad by the mid 1980s.
Four young people who were arrested for their suspected involvement in the damaging cyber attacks against Marks & Spencer, the Co-op and Harrods, have been bailed.
at this point I'm much more surprised when someone over 25 gets picked up for hacking stuff, I think some dude was helping gangs smuggle drugs into Rotterdam via hacking into the port logistical systems, they were like 41 with kids, that was way more unexpected to me lol
Europe’s commercial ports are top entry points for cocaine flooding in at record rates. The work of a Dutch hacker, who was hired by drug traffickers to penetrate port IT networks, reveals how this type of smuggling has become easier than ever.
The term 'user' in "no TCS systems or users compromised" could be more interesting to argue on in a civil liabilities case.
If a TCS staff member falls for social engineering (even if the action they take is within an assigned M&S tenant account...), is that not the same as a TCS user being compromised?
Anyway... I'm sure that statement won't at all be like rubbing salt in M&S's wounds.
I keep reminding people who mention this that M&S outsourced their IT services to the cheapest possible option. That immediately tells you how much they care about your data safety and security. It’s so important to them that they phone it in. Absolute joke.
Still didn’t have any Percy Pigs at the last store I checked either. Staff told me they don’t know what they’re going to receive one delivery to the next.
the daily mail publishing click bait headlines with sensationalist takes that fit the narrative the rich and powerful want to push? Who could have predicted that ahead of time?
I took that to mean that they (or more likely the analysts they hired) have concluded it's cheaper/quicker/safer to rebuild new systems from scratch than to continue any further recovery. So drawing a line in a financial & investigative sense, rather than saying that £300 million is just a scratch.
And rebuilding from the ground up would seem to tie in with their statement about online orders being unavailable until at least July and then "ramping up" after that.
unless maybe you outsource, but to a bunch of different providers, spreading risk? ie use local OpenLDAP as an organisation management tool (does not eerste a huge amount of resources, then set up mail with A, storage with B, web with C, etc. ?
when I got my business degree, one of my management profs said that the instant you outsource, you give up control. To the service provider, you move from income to liability on the balance sheet because you now are costing them money, and to eke out any profit they need to cut costs related to providing service to you.
They are still within the contract sla period for a response from the outsourced help desk. Sorry. But the contract sla only covers time to first response to the ticket not when the ticket will be done. Also orders for that many new machines exceeds the average % of requests and so is subject to delays from the equipment supplier
One of the big MSP's from India was adamant: 1. Personnel is not allowed to store passwords. 2. Must use unique passwords for every service. 3. Passwords must rotate every X days. 4. Only sanctioned apps are allowed. 5. No password manager is sanctioned or installed by default.
I have memories of those exercises 😅 (particularly logistics chiming in with 'erm, we'd need to kill all supplier orders asap' and the room going quiet 😳) Just glad some of the lessons sank in....
the thieves could probably show up at the AGM and present themselves as a member, since they have access to all the information the Co-Op has on it's membership...number, address, etc.
Short of checking govt. ID or requiring a hard copy of the meeting invite that was mailed to their address. Even then, the thieves might've gotten away with that too.
I wonder if the M&S and Co-op PR departments are constantly waiting for the other to announce something so that they themselves can push out an announcement and hope theirs goes under the radar?
I can only hope this data breach is the kick up the arse needed to abolish the common practice of using date of birth as an (immutable!) security password. Once it’s public knowledge it’s beyond useless… it’s a liability. Especially in banks.
Today they apparently emailed all customers that have ever purchased items from their online store. I received two such emails, an apologetic one from Stuart (CEO), and a slightly more explanatory one from Jayne Wall (Customer Services).
I was on holidays in Brodick (Arran, Scotland) last sunday, I can confirm the Co-op was low on products, with only potatoes available as fresh vegetables 😬
I though it was because it was a sunday late afternoon, but reading your thread it was clearly linked to the cyber incident
I am hoping that the local Co-Ops might be able to bypass the Co-Op Group for some items if the problem persists. The Southern Co-Op shops sell local/regional items where a nearby "Manchester" Co-op (as I have heard some of the Southern staff refer to the Co-op Group) shop doesn't.
When will the world learn: IT opsec is everything. More important than the countless millions they spend on physical security in terms of potential incident costs....
maybe by hybrid, they mean a workforce consisting of vastly overpaid & mostly useless execs, and grossly understaffed, underpaid, & unappreciated workers trying to keep the wheels from falling off?
you don't understand, I lost at least 700 million to the drugs I had to buy to help my paranoia because I can't watch my wageslaves Imean workers do their job
Ehm, they're doing both things. The easiest way to get physical access to most companies is to pretend being an employee of their it service contractor. They often just open all of the doors and show you the way right into the server room or ask you if they should log out before you take over (followed by if you'd like tea or coffee). At most what you as an attacker risk is getting also tasked with fixing the printer or copy machine "now that you're already here"...
Well, that's an easy one. Just say that you are calling regarding the reported problem with Outlook.
On the one hand you have a ~90% Chance, that the called person had.a Problem in the last Week, and on the other hand will hand you over the username as well as the password immediately.
I'm somewhat surprised, that this had not been tried earlier.
noticed the shelves in my local Co-op were not looking good this evening. Looks like they are struggling getting items ordered via their fallback methods.
Can also confirm, from several years ago, that sometimes there is also an Executive Assistant with a flag in some systems to ‘call on behalf of’ C-Suite/VPs.
It’s like a privilege escalation on people exploit 🤣😂
The cult of “it’s an exec!” and thus able to bypass normal protocols has always made me cry - especially seeing as how they’re the ones with access to the juicy stuff and (usually) have low IT literacy and awareness.
Often, when I’ve worked with an org to help strengthen the help desk, the push back has been from the service desk management (scared that they’ll been seen as impeding the exec in the course of Important Work). Usually asking the question “would you rather be responsible for an extra 60 seconds on a call, or for the entire company being breached?” helps them to see the light.
The other source of friction is from the admin assistants of the execs who seem even more entitled than the execs themselves. An appeal to vanity (“we have to be extra careful when you call in because you’re in a very privileged position”) can work wonders.
Every time I’ve spoken directly with said execs and explained exactly why they are going to be asked to positively ID themselves for any interaction they have been 100% supportive.
This is basically the plan for most businesses in reality.
It's fine to talk about stuff being "widely known best practice," but when IT shows up with big expenses for backups and security, the MBA's always decide it's more important to rightsize the headcount and operate lean. Many IT departments report up through an MBA and not a technical person, and many IT people are terrible at communicating risk dramatically enough to get money.
The thing that gets me is that the two statements are probably true for the people who said them. The Security group may have wargamed and prepared for malware attacks, and done so in a way that no one else in the technical stack even noticed happening (beyond some new agent installs being requested). So when the attack comes, the Security plan swings into action and no one outside of Security knows what it is or has practiced it.
This is high visibility. Executives step in to make Declarations, complicating the response. This is an incident big enough to need sub-commands to track various workflows, reporting up to a rotating incident command. Everyone wants to help, the workflows aren't well defined yet, and people help on their own authority (thanks to Command not having a clear picture yet and guiding where help would be good) and maybe make things worse in a few spots.
In fairness, I don't think I've ever believed a ransomware incident response plan would *actually* be used in any meaningful circumstance beyond an ISO audit anyway.
@ollie_whitehouse Do egress filtering (esp. for servers) with alerting. If there is unknown communication, then you have either a misconfiguration or a problem.
Keep critical IT infrastructure (network, firewalls, SAN/NAS, virtualisation, backups) separated from Active Directory.
Do not couple internet-facing systems (including VPN and M365) with your local AD.
@ollie_whitehouse One Entra Conditional Access policy to block high risk logins, a second policy to block high risk users. You most likely want to do both, and need to do them in separate policies
I agree with most of your arguments. (In fact, the only one I take exception with is comparing ransomware with climate change. Ransomware is a much more real and urgent problem.) Those are pretty much arguments I've used myself when advising customers hit by ransomware not to pay.
But, ultimately, it's the company's decision. Even if the company makes the wrong decision, the government shouldn't be the one who decides for them.
The Ransomware-as-a-service (RaaS) model has not recovered from law enforcement disruption, and the entrance of novice actors along with non-Russian state-linked cybercriminals has led to uncertain outcomes for victims.
superb summary. Surprising it still hasn't been made mandatory to report incidents, and clearly payments to criminal groups should have been outlawed before now. You'd have thought that would easily have fallen foul of the existing anti-money laundering/anti corruption regs.
My thought after reading this is very old school. When the first indication appears, shut everything down. I have seen banks do this, and watched tellers calmly tell customers "I'm sorry, but the system is temporarily shut down" and start from there. If the breach is stopped quickly enough, you may have a chance. Also, what about off site storage, that would not be accessible to the attacker? Ultimately, the decision is a risk management decision, to evaluate as quickly as you can
I caught a typo similar to ones I make, hope this helps. "Travelex aren’t alone. When I covered the Capita ransomware, they paid quietly paid" maybe delete one of the "paid"s
it's good to make that known, i remember reading pieces about how professional the "commercial" side of these groups were and how companies found it so compeling to pay for the "service", that gave me an impression of a much better argument for doing so (with the downside that it does fund crime and rewards it).
it absolutely blows my mind that *anybody* pays ransomware attackers off, *ever.* Taking your lumps is better even WITHOUT the fact that you're literally funding them to continue attacking people, and that eventually (if not much, MUCH sooner) they're going to come right back to YOU again for another handout. Very likely, for the same damn attack you just paid them to keep quiet about in the first place.
Stuart Machin had been looking forward to a long weekend. It was Easter Saturday and the chief executive of Marks & Spencer had retired to his south London home for the evening, after a long day inspecting the aisles of his local M&S branch — somethi…
Multiple explosions were heard in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, particularly at Camp Taji, a military installation used by Iraqi and the US-led coalition forces.
if you suspect that an enemy is about to make a move on you, what do you do? A. prepare defenses? B. attack first? C. do what the enemy wanted before they get a chance to do it?
Lets keep blaming it all on the Jews when Lucifarians set this shit up. All three of these pieces of shit worship Lucifer. Motherfuckers smell like sulphur.
Anarchism is the great liberator of man from the phantoms that have held him captive; it is the arbiter and pacifier of the two forces for individual and social harmony. -- Emma Goldman
Chinese President Xi Jinping will attend a gathering marking the 80th anniversary of the victory in the Chinese People's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression and the World Anti-Fascist War.
Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), announced on Tuesday that its fighters carried out a complex ambush targeting a Zionist force entrenched inside a house south of Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip.
Ahmed, a rail worker, told WSWS, “The attack on Iran is totally unjustified, it’s also a total threat to democracy… Before we know it, we won’t be able to protest.”
The ruling isn't a guarantee for how similar cases will proceed, but it lays the foundations for a precedent that would side with tech companies over creatives.
These Labour cuts will push 250,000 more people into poverty, including 50,000 children.
This isn't what anyone voted for.
The UK is a wealthy country, but that wealth is hoarded by a tiny few. The answer isn't to take more from the already struggling, it's to tax the rich.
QUE RETENIR DES 12 JOURS DE CONFRONTATION ENTRE L’IRAN ET ISRAËL ? Infos Brutes- 24/06/25
La confrontation inédite entre l’Iran et Israël aura duré près de deux semaines, marquant une rupture majeure dans la dynamique régionale. Le cessez-le-feu, initié par les États-Unis, témoigne de la volonté israélienne d’éviter une désavantageuse guerre d'usure. Cette initiative reflète en réalité un signal d'essoufflement d’Israël. Mais que nous enseignent réellement ces douze jours d’échanges de frappes ?
Sur le plan politique interne iranien
L’attaque israélienne, justifiée par le prétexte nucléaire, n’a pas affaibli la République islamique. Au contraire, elle a consolidé la cohésion nationale. Face à l’agression, le peuple iranien a resserré les rangs autour du régime, démontrant que la capacité de résistance d’une Nation repose avant tout sur l’unité de son peuple.
Sur le plan technologique – Iran
L’Iran a pu tester grandeur nature ses missiles balistiques à longue portée. Au-delà de la démonstration de puissance, c’est une opportunité d’ajustement technique. L’expérience de terrain servira à perfectionner ces armes, à les rendre plus précises et potentiellement plus dissuasives à l’avenir.
Sur le plan technologique – Israël
La supériorité technologique israélienne, longtemps considérée comme un acquis, a été sérieusement mise à rude épreuve. Malgré la présence du Dôme de Fer, des systèmes avancés de défense antimissile et la puissance de son aviation, les missiles iraniens ont percé les « rideaux de protection » et atteint des cibles stratégiques, ébranlant la confiance dans ces boucliers.
Des décennies d’assassinats ciblés de scientifiques iraniens n’auront pas empêché l’Iran de maîtriser la technologie nucléaire. Les bombardements israéliens, en partie aveugles, n’ont pas détruit les capacités et le savoir-faire nucléaires de l’Iran. La centrale nucléaire de Bushehr n'a pas été touchée et l'incertitude demeure sur l'efficacité des frappes sur les infrastructures souterraines. Pire encore, le stock d'uranium hautement enrichi dissimulé ne finira pas de hanter Tel-Aviv.
L’image d’invincibilité d’Israël en sort affaiblie. Pour la première fois, un État souverain a revendiqué et exécuté des frappes en profondeur sur le territoire israélien avec un lourd bilan humain et des dégâts considérables. Cette brèche stratégique aura un impact durable sur la perception de la superpuissance militaire d'Israël.
Sur le plan tactique – Iran
L’Iran s’attellera désormais à renforcer considérablement ses systèmes de défense aérienne. L’investissement dans des technologies hypersoniques et furtives deviendra une priorité, tout comme la dissimulation accrue des infrastructures militaires stratégiques pour renforcer sa dissuasion et sa capacité de projection.
Sur le plan de la retenue iranienne
Malgré sa capacité à infliger des dégâts considérables, l’Iran a fait preuve de retenue stratégique. Il aurait pu viser la centrale nucléaire de Dimona ou les installations de dessalement, provoquant une catastrophe humanitaire et écologique. Ce choix délibéré de ne pas franchir certaines lignes rouges montre une volonté de ne pas provoquer une guerre totale.
Bien que la Russie et la Chine aient ouvertement condamné les frappes israéliennes, leur soutien concret se veut plus discret. La présence de scientifiques russes sur certains sites iraniens suggère une collaboration étroite dans le nucléaire et le militaire. Les missiles iraniens devenus subitement performants prouvent l'efficacité de la coopération militaire et technologique avec la Russie, la Chine, la Corée du Nord et le Pakistan.
La situation ramène paradoxalement le dossier nucléaire iranien à son point de départ: la voie diplomatique. L’Iran se retrouve en position de force pour relancer les négociations avec ses conditions ou, au contraire, accélérer discrètement sa transition vers le nucléaire militaire, s'il est considéré par Téhéran comme seule garantie de sécurité face à des menaces existentielles.
Sur le plan militaire israélien
Habitué à affronter des groupes non étatiques comme le Hezbollah ou le Hamas, Israël découvre les limites de sa stratégie face à un État organisé, disposant de moyens balistiques conséquents. L’option militaire perd de son attractivité stratégique, et la confiance dans les systèmes d’alerte précoce et de défense est sérieusement entamée.
Sur le plan des pertes humaines et matérielles
Malgré une communication strictement contrôlée par Tel-Aviv, de nombreux observateurs remettent en question le bilan humain en raison de l’ampleur des dégâts. L'étendue des destructions à Haïfa, Tel-Aviv ou Beersheba , associée aux indemnisations civiles et au coût des interceptions, pèsera lourdement sur l'économie israélienne, même avec le soutien américain.
Sur le plan de la politique intérieure israélienne
#Netanyahou a momentanément renforcé sa position en détournant l’attention de ses ennuis judiciaires et à se maintenir au pouvoir. Mais l’opinion publique, d’abord favorable à l’attaque, pourrait basculer face aux limites révélées par la riposte iranienne. La paix avec les voisins s'imposera désormais comme une option crédible.
Sur le rapport de force régional
Cette confrontation aura des effets durables sur l’équilibre régional. Les États arabes observeront avec attention la capacité d’un État comme l’Iran à tenir tête militairement à Israël. Cela pourrait redessiner les alliances, refroidir certaines normalisations diplomatiques, et réactiver des dynamiques de dissuasion nucléaire au #Moyen-Orient.
Sur le plan du droit international
L’agression israélienne contre l’ #Iran, sans justification reconnue par le droit international, viole la Charte des Nations unies. Pourtant, les États occidentaux n’ont ni condamné cette action ni rappelé les principes de souveraineté. En invoquant une « guerre préventive » — non reconnue juridiquement — pour justifier l’attaque, ils valident un double standard. Or selon leur propre définition, les États qui ne respectent pas le droit international sont qualifiés d'«États voyous».
Chaque message de Van der Leyen est une raison de quitter l'UE
Commentaire peu politiquement correct de Hal Turner, qui a posté cette chose imprimée par la Présidente (non élue) de la C.E. : "La Gauleiter Ursula von der Führer annonce simultanément que l'Iran ne doit jamais se doter de la bombe (même s'il n'existe aucune preuve qu'il tente d'en fabriquer une), et affirme que le droit international doit être respecté et que l'Iran doit s'engager dans une solution diplomatique crédible.
Ceci après que l'Iran a déjà été bombardé sans déclaration de guerre à deux reprises au cours des dix derniers jours, sans mentionner toutes les frappes aériennes qu'il a subies, ses hôpitaux et ses ambulances délibérément ciblés, et après avoir tenté de négocier uniquement pour que les autres parties bombardent leurs diplomates et attaquent leur territoire pendant les négociations. C'est une chose pour von der Leyen d'être un serpent nazi, une escroc corrompu et une menteuse congénitale, mais ici, avec son message, nous atteignons de nouveaux sommets de schizophrénie."
Isra(h)ël(l) refuse de signer le traité de non prolifération un lanceur d'alerte israélien a fait 18 ans de prison et maintenant il lui est interdit de quitter le territoire ( voir sur investig'action) les médias main stream aux mains des milliardaires s'alignent sur Israël et les médias publics ne font pas mieux(il n'y a plus de distanciation comme le faisait Charles Anderlin), seuls quelques médias indépendants et privés (comme la dépêche par exemple) ont un autre regard
C'est juste.... Et quand les médias, la Hyène, Potichon et Mersatz, et autres affirment qu'"Israël a le droit de se défendre", ça vérifie encore une fois que "dans un monde réellement renversé, le vrai est un moment du faux", comme l'avait déclaré Guy Debord. La tautologie évidente "Israël a le droit..." est l'once de vérité théorique noyé dans l'odieuse réalité de l'aggression permanente, du génocide et de la dictature régionale que poursuit Israël, tous événements dont les prémisses ont pu être perçu en 1948. D'ailleurs, un lord anglais qui voulait s'assurer des faits et recadrer les israeliens tous neufs s'est fait assassiner.... Mais comme l'UE, les milliardaires serrent trop fort et toujours les mêmes. Ils sont en train de scier les forces vives, les enthousiasmes, les dynamiques sociétales dont ils se repassaissent, en vrais vampires qu'ils sont. Et ça va les tuer, pour peu qu'on les aide un peu à se péter la gueule.
Il y a un élément qui nous échappe; et qui tourne en notre faveur; c'est leur "trop-plein" de fric qui commence à leur poser problème. Le fric finit par puer la mort. C'est des soucis. Bien sûr il y a du pouvoir mais ce pouvoir rend malade... Il faut s'en rendre compte sinon on ne perçoit pas notre victoire...
Israelis are flocking to Cyprus like it was promised to them in a 3,000 year old book. Cypriots are freaking out about the loss of sovereignty as Zionists buy up huge chunks of real estate, in case they lose occupied Palestine. It could be a matter of time until Cypriots are forced out of their homes into concentration camps and called "antisemites" for objecting. The world let Zionists get away with this once so don't doubt it would let it happen a second time.
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