Hehe…

but more rarely does anyone just ask “what do you mean by that?”

Too much verbal diarrhea...I tend to no longer want long verbal discourses... at least not with the general public. If I find someone who is open to discuss things more (one on one or small groups) I will engage.

I'm also aware of wasting breath on those who are "not open" or who are "defending a particular stance" etc

Now, it's know when to speak, share or "hold my tongue". I don't always get it right 🕊

Thousands, I think, tens of thousands? Forgot. I mean, any group or institution that somehow wants to manipulate people doesn’t stand on the street corner with leaflets anymore or bribe filmmakers or what. They go online, of course.

Yeah...I have compassion for people who don't want to stop and listen to someone. The situation got full of dregs because the best parts are constantly imbibed by the fuzz or the AI machine.

@L'intrus

Surprisingly, the few who agree to debate are mostly on the opposite side to me…

this comes as no surprise. The advancements proposed in the video come from listening, and so often a debate is about proving each other wrong. The fewest people can realize that our words come from emotional expressions which intellectual arguments, no matter how right, will never ever solve.

@L'intrus my transcendental approach is to advocate for the existence of transcendentals. however not to approach them directly all the time. dignity is an example of something that must be approached, reached in estimation of each other, before we are truly capable of founding a worthy society. however transcendental truths require settling the stirred pot of emotions and convictions until the resonance of what remains, our truest essence, can sound out of us and find the path of best fit. so these are not accessible by force or in many cases even by word.

therefore i tend to see the "many paths" perspective as a derived truth which misses the point that we all walk the way, but the way walks back -- there are paths more accommodating of, for lack of a better word, natural law. and as in the case of dignity, there are human paths better than others, which are to be followed for the sake of our larger intentions, like community or society.

However growth requires the will to change:
how can we remain the same person, if the impulse to grow came from a state of following the energy.<

In one of Alan Watts's talks, he states that, "nature abhors a vacuum"... hence the saying, "change is the only constant"...?

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@L'intrus Much more recently I started contemplating how the biosphere operates, beyond limited current scientific thinking, this does not mean to say what scientists are discovering is not valuable, just limited... until they discover the next new bit of information which opens the box of "limitations" again.

What I currently realize is, that every life-form - trees, animals, fish, fungi, bacteria (I'm not sure where viruses slot in), from the "bigger picture" are all vitally important to the harmonious unfolding of the future of this Earth, except humans seem to be the ones who are "out of tune" (so to speak).

@iam-elegance thinking about the nature of the non-dual baseline reality can give people a lot of ideas--i try to propagate the principle which leads us to convictions, but not necessarily convictions themselves...unless they are based in this categorical imperative: that the manner in which I come to them is itself reproducible by my species (as they are human with intellects and as they are living beings in a nature-dependent world). So the will to change is relative to my static neurology (and my spirit's acquisitions in past lives--for those who believe), either way I need to choose to let change become a force in my life, therefore the will to change.

I don't know if nature abhors a vacuum--it seems to fill them rather...even the void is really just quantum potential fluctuations. vacuums are relative.

Looking back my "same person" comment seems naive 😀 but in this light, the self as a vacuum held apart in a manifestation space, with energetic decisions as rafters... 🍐 🍋‍🟩

@unmittelbar maybe we are different species within human bodies and because we find ourselves embodied within "human casings" - that causes us to "limit ourselves to the human dilemma as a human body"?

Have you ever looked into the "scientific concept" of ABIOGENESIS??? How did life on Earth begin??? Utterly fascinating!!!

The other more contemporary "imaginarium" is the movie "Lucy" (quite a few years old and yet, because we are ultimately dreamers, whether we realize this or not, it is all relevant... 🖖

Both polarities currently being morphed 💚

@L'intrus the video suggests older people to listen to younger people, because they have knowledge. You inspire me to extend it based on my knowledge.

I listen to religious people, because they express symbolic wisdom which is soothing for the religiously evolved brains of humans: for the sake of emotions and in case there is a deeper significance to symbols.

I also listen to atheists, because they often focus on real-world problems, which informs me about worldly concerns. In short, atheists often know better where the problems are, but also usually blame religions or stupidity for the problems. I think religious symbols help people with emotional issues, and so I benefit from listening to both sides...what you misinterpret as dictatorial will is really the attempt to remind people that underneath our activity is a powerful source-consciousness which helps us find the paths of best fit, and that these paths are for more than just individuals since they come from the same source. Meditation offers a way to access this by resolving to remain still, dissolving our minds for a time and letting everything go. Religious people do something similar so often, they are rightly criticised as abiding the terrorism of the present society in manufactured bliss. However consumers and atheists do it too, they just melt themselves further and further into their own minds, rather than into the symbolic layer which exists over the source consciousness. This is how I understand it...I am trying to point out a categorical approach to common enlightenment which does not hate individual paths, but rather reminds them to tune themselves regularly to a higher will, and also abide in the knowledge that oneself is not to be taken so seriously as to get offended or angry.