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Unlike a lot of fruits and even other berries, strawberries must be handpicked, which makes labor one of the biggest costs of doing business for farmers. Javier Lara, 43, is throwing a wrench into the uneasy accord between growers and labor.
Not to be flippant but evolution did see to it that we're really good at getting food off of trees & bushes. We have a rather meaningful several-million-year head start over the robots here.
Yum! Brands would only by from farms that had signed on to a fair food program with the Coalition of Immokalee Workers. They'd pay extra for those tomatoes, and the extra $ would be passed through directly to tomato pickers as a raise.
This deal nearly doubled tomato pickers' wages.
And guess how much this big, ground-shaking deal raised the price of tomatoes?
This program was so successful, others have signed on.
McDonald's, Burger King, Whole Foods, Subway, Trader Joe's, Chipotle, Walmart, Fresh Market, & several food service co's (Compass, Aramark, Sodexo, Bon Appetit) have all agreed to pay an extra $0.01/lb for CIW tomatoes.
CIW has been incredibly successful at showing exactly how we can afford to pay farm workers a fair wage.
And certain Florida farm & food interests really, really haven't liked that. It's legitimately fueled MAGA as a political force in Florida.
Surely it's a total coincidence that Trump's first large-scale immigrant detention facility is in Florida. In easy commuting distance of the tomato fields around Immokalee
Farms usually blame "large corporations" for not paying them properly, so they're "forced" to pay poor wages.
That's why CIW made these bargains directly with the large corps. To stop farms from passing the buck and playing "Aw shucks, I'd love to pay fair wages but I can't afford to."
And you know what? It took time to get the big food corps to the table. But most of them ultimately signed on. In the end, they were a lot more amenable to proper farm wages than most of the farms.
The corps like Publix that get mad about CIW & fair farm wages, it's not bc proper farm wages will put them out of business.
It's because they get upset when ANY workers get collective bargaining wins. It's just generic anti-labor politics- not an existential threat to their business.
This is usually when I tell people "and go follow CIW (Coalition of Immokalee Workers) if you haven't already." But it looks like they're not on Mastodon.
In Britain, when I was younger, you could still work the fields for cash in hand. Do a few hours before school, a morning, a day here and there and it was a good way of earning beer money. To this day, I am still in awe of the speed of the full-time workers. I still suspect that the only thing that could move through a crop faster than them, would be a plague of locusts. I will never take agricultural workers for granted.
hey thank you I learned a lot. I had been assuming owners had a leg to stand on other than greed, because I keep failing to aim low enough in my expectations of capitalism somehow
The number of prisoners granted parole has plummeted, and prison officials force many of those inmates to work off site in a scheme that generates $450 million a year for the state, the lawsuit said.
How much you wanna bet that the cost per person in any given state is actually lower when farm workers are fairly compensated and not at constant risk of deportation, because of the cumulative effects of workers paying more in taxes but being able to access preventative healthcare vs emergency services and less spent on law enforcement and legal services?
Every time I see someone saying that basic human rights and reasonable pay would raise the price of food beyond affordability, I want to spit rivets.
Hon, an extra cent a pound isn't what's made your burger cost 2-3 times what it did twenty years ago, it's the fact that corporations will raise the price of their goods to the very limit of affordability and then keep ratcheting it, click-by-click, at every opportunity, while refusing to provide their workers a fraction of what they're worth.
More slave labour isn't going to make your food cheaper. Making sure that the ultracapitalists pay in spades for their inhumanity, now that might just do the trick.
I believe the primary thing the unions represent, and the reason why owners will fight to the death against them, is a voice for the workers. Yes, that often means fair wages, but if it was just that the owners wouldn't fight so hard against it. It's the concept that they have to talk to the workers as equals in the first place that they can't bear.
I think this is fabulous when you also combine it with Vox and probably more perfect union a few years ago reporting on the major meat, packing industry, and they are effect on ranchers at the feed lot stage.
To add to this - the Chocolate industry has a similar reckoning worldwide with chocolate farming - but some companies, after being dragged on it, realized that maybe they could just, you know, take steps to ethically source their chocolate [ reeveconsulting.com/2024/02/14… ].
Any extra increase in wages would likely be offset by a decrease in P.R. and marketing to make people want to knowingly buy child labour-sourced chocolate.
People need to realise that farmers arent generally "the good guys" or "the humble small business" or whatever they project onto them from the books they read and movies they watch. Sure some might be, some might try to be fair to their employees.
Where i am from, farmer protests are *extremely* far-right and routinely use Nazi iconography (that is in Germany). And i've read similarly from other places. And they do inhumane exploitation.
It’s very distressing (that “lots of farmers would just rather not pay fair wages”) & it makes me ask questions about farm workers in my country (Australia) where we’ve had a number of scandals related to labour hire practices. 😐
Thanks again for shining a light on such important topics. 🙂
The Florida tomato heiress sounds like a nasty pasty; mean to fund the 6 Jan insurrection & entitled as all hell but surely we’re wrong to even think this:
“Surely it's a total coincidence that Trump's first large-scale immigrant detention facility is in Florida. In easy commuting distance of the tomato fields around Immokalee” 😐
[That was a comment dripping with sarcasm for those who don’t do irony or humour…]
Almost every day I see people working hard in the fields.
And every time I think: Perhaps this generation of workers won't experience the full American Dream, but among their children and grandchildren will be our nation's future Curies and Mozarts, future Twains and Spielbergs - a child of one of those workers may find a cure for cancer.
I am more than happy to pay extra $$ so that these people have a better chance of growing into (and enriching) our American culture and life, just as my great grandparents and grandparents did.
I also support UBI, free healthcare, and free education for all who are here (not just citizens.)
Many of our religions - including Islam, Christianity, Judaism - all teach us to care for the foreigner and stranger.
(I would add that we need to pull back on our national worship of advanced university degrees and note that often those who work with their hands are as skilled as a scientist with a PhD.)
If paying a fair wage to the people who put food on your table will destroy your profits, you're lying, in the wrong business, or haven't a clue about how to cut a pizza.
Thank you so much Sarah! 🙂 for another incredibly educational, fact- & story-filled read on modern agricultural practices and workers (& those who belittle them & treat them unfairly & now meanly 😐 )
Thanks too for the link to the Coalition of Immokalee Workers (CIW): so inspirational! Hard to pick a snippet to share, they’re active in so many areas:
“Starting in 1993 from a foundation of farmworker community organizing in Immokalee, Florida, the CIW is best known today for its Fair Food Program (FFP), launched in 2011. The FFP harnesses the purchasing power of over a dozen retail food brands, from Taco Bell to Walmart, to compel compliance with a human rights-based code of conduct on participating farms. The Program was born in the Florida tomato industry and has spread to ten US states and Chile, including expansion into the cut flower industry and multiple additional crops, and incipient expansion efforts in South Africa and Mexico through the support of the US Department of Labor.[1] A new channel for co-ops and smaller independent grocery stores to support the Program is expanding through the FFP Sponsor Program.
“The FFP also gave rise to the Worker-driven Social Responsibility model (WSR), which has been successfully replicated in the apparel industry in Bangladesh through the Bangladesh Accord (now the International Accord), in Lesotho through the Lesotho Agreements,[2] and in the dairy industry in the state of Vermont through the Milk with Dignity Program. The CIW provides technical assistance to organizations that are interested in adopting the WSR model through an umbrella organization, the WSR-Network.”
Thank you. This thread is super interesting. Do you have any recommendations for sources that go into more detail about the deal and how it went? Podcasts, interviews, maybe even the documents that were signed? I would like to learn more about it.
yeah shocking pay people and very little happens other than everyone benefits. The problem with this country is it business has gain control of the narrative with this fiction that if we pay people you’re (the consumer) gonna pay more and that’s just not the case
Ha ha ha! Very good point: “Not to be flippant but evolution did see to it that we're really good at getting food off of trees & bushes. We have a rather meaningful several-million-year head start over the robots here.” :-😁
Why don’t we value & celebrate these amazing skills (instead of bankers & financiers who you might say are doing badly, stuff that computers do better… nonAI-infested computers I mean… talking about actual maths & stuff like that here). 😐
it's actually really, really hard. Vision needs to be much better than it is, picking soft things very fast, planning the lifting of obstructions to access the fruit, the picking itself with highly nonlinear mechanics, the bringing the bucket to where it needs to go on complex terrain, with moving obstacles...
oh NO, $0.75/pint in labor charges! And then all the other things probably add up to what, $0.70/pint? (No, seriously, how much is it? I would assume labor is the largest share at scale.)
A pint weighs about 10-14oz. The local grocery chain charges $5 per pound, or $7 for 2lbs in season.
To be fair I constantly see opponents of increased minimum wage do math that assumes an employee can make exactly one sandwich an hour or whatever. To their credit, it *does* make the math easier.
I mean, ultimately we need to pay for people's time. If the real actual cost of paying everyone properly doubles the costs of food, then we just need to get used to paying double.
Because the alternative is just saying our society can only work if we embrace "neo slavery". It's not reasonable to base society's food production on just not properly paying for people's time.
But yeah, after looking at the actual numbers, it wouldn't get close to doubling costs.
Y'all...in the US and Canada, you need to read the thread i'm replying to. If you're interested in just outcomes...read this thread. If you consume food...read this thread.
Gonna blow your mind totally: we've been systematically lied to by Big Ag and farm owners. I know, imagine, a huge capitalist industry lying to its consumers? Unpossible, right?
But it's true. OP has receipts. Go learn why food is expensive, and wages for food growers and pickers are cheap (hint: follow the money).
Seriously. Best thread I've read here this *year*.
Out of curiosity, what would be considered a fair wage for these types of jobs? Suppose I paid farmers $100000 a year, that would for sure jack up the price of food.
I live under the arrival and departure paths for half the private jets that fly in and out of Van Nuys, and no shocker, a lot of them are owned by Big Ag families and companies and are flying between Los Angeles and the Central or Imperial Valleys where they make their billions.
...in case people are wondering what their food budget is paying for.
(I'm guessing the passengers in those jets are pissed with Stephen Miller right now.)
Now I imagined something like this: [screaming office manager] "But if we will pay extra 3 cents per pound we will not meet wall-street expectations for profit growth for 0.0001%! [screeching]
I say pay everybody a living wage and deal with any downstream effects afterward.
Honestly, I don't understand why this is a controversial position. America is the richest nation in the world. It's a fucking disgrace that we have poverty here.
Just pay every-fucking-body a living wage. Ensure they have housing. And health care. And food. And education for themselves and their children. And connectivity. We could do it for a tenth of what we pay for cops.
and you know what can match that cost increase? Passing right to repair laws so companies like John Deer can go pound sand because they can't digitally sign tractor parts anymore. (Or whatever insane nonsense they're up to these days) competition on farm equipment repair should easily offset wage costs.
Incredible number of boosts, and deservedly so! This is an amazingly enlightening thread/essay, thank you for taking the time to write it up so thoughtfully.
people who say this shit have never worked on a farm, try picking lettuce or tomatos faster than an experienced worker... they'd have finished 5lb of food before you're done 1lb, and honestly you'd probably cut off a finger trying to keep up with them
besides that, the majority cost of many foods is processing and stuff like pre-washing/cutting/preparing, because that counts as a "value added good" they just have way higher profit margins based on nothing but convenience... paying the farm workers more wouldn't do much at all to food costs lol
@LabSpokane Here in WA, they pay cherry pickers based on how much they pick instead of an hourly rate.
Also, I recently heard some news stories about migrant pickers being afraid to come to work (because of ICE) and that with more notice, Americans could have filled the gap and picked.
Bull-fucking-shit.
I've been living and working among cherry orchards for 20 years and I have never seen an American pick cherries.
"Banning slavery would spike the cost of cotton. Nobody would be able to afford clothing."
Most of the financial value added in a farm to store chain is well past the farm. Paying a bit more at the bottom of the value chain does not raise the price much.
This would also apply to the cobalt miners in Africa, for example. Treating them a bit more like human beings would not raise the price of an EV very much.
I mean there's more labor to producing veg than just the harvest (sprouting, planting etc) But I guess it's mostly the harvest labor that's underpaid... The last post in the thread nails down the point.
you know what will double/triple the price of food is forcing medicaid people to pick it because were gonna pull about 10lbs an hour and bruise it up too, and smoke cigarettes in the middle of the tomato field.
It's always been my feeling that a nation whose economy depends on the labour of people it refuses to give the normal protections of citizenship is still a slave nation.
The biggest percentage of the cost of food is not the farmer or the workers or grocery store. It is the middle men, the shipping, the warehousing. Everything else is trivial compared to the cost of movement and storage.
Robots are only an answer for certain kinds of crops. They work pretty well for apples and oranges and some varieties of cherries. They really suck at being able to tell which tomatoes are ripe and safe to pick and which they should ignore. Picking out the more delicate fruits and being able to tell which ones are at the exact stage for harvest is a uniquely human capability. Being able to quickly pick them without bruising them is also a very difficult thing for a machine to do and very easily learned by human beings. Actually doing the work is horrible and hard, but automating it is even harder.
Poverty is arranged. Poverty is a fence drawn around people. Poverty is a construction made by wealthy folks.
Costco pays a significant amount more, for example, than its competitors. Those competitors and even unrelated corps have done everything in their power to ask, or force, Costco to lower wages, and they subverted them, and lost LOTS of money trying to undersell and ruin Costco.
Poverty is imposed. Poverty is a crime, the poor it's victims.
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The knowledgeable weak. So over burdened. I have no sympathy for their path. The desire to be first. To be right. To bring the “aha” moment. What a pitiful existence. No thanks.
it means being free from all the liberal elites and fake news media who just want to control us and take away our freedom and tell me what to think and how to live my life and whats safe to eat
trump and jesus DO NOT COUNT
theyre not part of the establishment and theyre not trying to control me okay trump is a rebel and a fighter and jesus is the ultimate rebel and free thinker he went against the establishment and challenged the powers that be like his dad and stuff
i believe in being free and independent and not being controlled by anyone or anything that isnt on my side like for example the mcdonalds corporation what do you think
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Me toca bastante cierta parte de mi anatomía ver tanta gente de izquierdas subirse al carro del discurso de lo mucho que aportan económicamente los inmigrantes a nuestro país, como si eso fuese lo único que les da derecho a ser tratados como seres humanos.
¿Hablamos de qué porcentaje de nuestro PIB se debe a los recursos que occidente ha saqueado y sigue saqueando de esos países de donde proceden esas personas? ¿O aquí ya POR LO QUE SEA no toca aplicar el análisis económico?
"ya pero es que eso desmonta los argumentos del facha" al facha le da igual, va a odiar a quien toque odiar porque es lo que le han dicho que toca hacer, porque así no va a fijarse en lo que se tendría que fijar y le va a dar igual todo lo que le digas. Dato no mata relato si el relato se fundamenta en prejuicios, copón.
justo pienso eso cada vez que lo oigo. El discurso de que hace falta aportar para merecer que te traten como persona... no sé, creo que cierta gente estaba de acuerdo con esa idea. (cw: propaganda nazi deshumanizante)
pienso lo mismo cada vez que lo veo. Me dan los siete males cuando veo que se opta por el "utilitarismo" en este tema para discutir con los fachas. Son personas. No tienen por qué aportar o producir X para ser consideradas como tal. ¿Qué pasaría si dejaran de cumplir ese requisito?
Has dado con la nota al tocar esa tecla... Pues sí... ¿Con que frecuencia pensamos en terminos globales? Occidente ha explotado en el ciclo historico reciente al resto del mundo y ahora "la globalización" nos pasa la factura... De ahí parte del conflicto mundial... Ahora ya no interesan tantas cosas... Por ejemplo, arrasamos bosques y recursos minerales en europa, luegos explotamos los suyos, y cuando alcanzan cierto grado de soberanía sobre sus recursos (incluída la población) les decimos a esas regiones que no contaminen, por ejemplo...
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y lo tranquilamente que se habla de las condiciones en que trabajan y lo mal que se les paga y que ningún local lo querría hacer! Cada vez que oigo eso pienso que estamos aceptando la esclavitud. 🤬
Un tema interesante que tiene varias aristas o vertientes según se mire, desde luego hay una hipocresia cuándo se habla de lo bueno de que vengan personas de otros países pero oye, las condiciones laborales ya tal... 🤔
Y claro, si esos aceptan ser explotados, habrá gente de este país que no lo acepte y así se retroalimenta, que por cierto, mucha vicepresidenta de Ministerio de Trabajo pero NO veo hacer REDADAS de inspecciones de trabajo y menos aún sin avisar...
Si es en el mismo centro de Madrid y ves obras con gente extranjera y veo que ni se cumplen las normas de seguridad, prevención de riesgos etc.
Pero otro tema aparte... mucha de esa gente, es fanática en tema religioso y con ese nexo en común, votan a la derecha o derecha externa, aunque cueste creee para MAL 😱
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Nordic countries are working with the Chinese in the Arctic. Trump wants to buy some icebreakers from Finland. Canada and Finland have projects going. The Arctic is the new Frontier. It's going to impact the major powers, and Greenland and Alberta, too I would think. I am so glad Trump is in charge.
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@Richard those buttons (1,2,3) are network objects with people (1,2) and persons (3) respectively. There's a pipeline from love to the inside of the brain, and a pipeline from hate to the outside of the brain. The substance is pneuma, but for 1 and 2 it is borne by humors, which while carrying the ectoplasm of spiritual encounters, do not themselves mediate Psyche. The psyche mediates the lower senses and the higher senses develop to experience the microcosm and the macrocosm as one. Since spirits are dark matter and so their influence for the photonic realm has to be guaged, and buttons for their words are poor surfaces, as we know from religious history.
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i should have known better tbh. in spite of the fact that no doctors have been able to really tell me anything useful i feel strongly i am in a pre-diabetic insulin resistant state. was starting to feel better and got sloppy but it looks like i need to maintain this a bit longer
i can get away with a little bit of carbs but actual refined sugar is like pure poison to my system. it messes up my eyes and makes me generally feel like hell
not sure what happened. my pancreas must have gotten messed up somehow. if i had a decent doctor and insurance i might be albe to find help figuring this out but doctors and hospitals are so useless now i gave up
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As a teen: Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego the animated series (which was once interrupted by the news to show a plane crashing into a building).
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Muitos apoiadores do software livre em todo o mundo são forçados a abrir mão de sua liberdade quando fazem login ou vão trabalhar. Não importa o quão alto você tente subir na Escada da Liberdade em sua vida privada, o verdadeiro desafio começa quando seu empregador o força a usar software privativo no trabalho. Ninguém deveria ser forçado a usar software não-livre para ganhar o salário! O software que trabalhadores usam deve sempre respeitar sua liberdade.
A liberdade de software é um direito humano. Todo ser humano merece ter a liberdade de executar, estudar, modificar e compartilhar o software que usa. O software que seu empregador exige que você use deve conceder estas mesmas quatro liberdades, em vez de programas privativos ladrões da liberdade como Microsoft Office e Slack. As grandes empresas de tecnologia impõem suas ferramentas de aprendizado de máquina aos usuários e capturam cada palavra que você digita e cada movimento que você faz para alimentar a boca escancarada de seus sistemas -- não importa se os usuários (ou empregadores) consentem com isso ou não. Por essas razões, está se tornando ainda mais urgente que rejeitemos software privativo. Quando uma realidade distópica parece estar logo ali na esquina, a liberdade de software é mais importante do que nunca.
Os benefícios da liberdade de software para empresas e organizações
O software livre oferece uma imensa quantidade de benefícios tanto para trabalhadores quanto para empregadores. Com software livre, você, seja usuário ou empregador, decide o que quer que o programa faça. Você está em total controle sobre sua computação, seus dados e a saída disso. Você mantém soberania sobre os dados mais confidenciais de sua organização, em vez de ser forçado a revelar segredos a empresas gananciosas e negligentes como Adobe, Apple, Google, Microsoft e OpenAI. Empresas como Microsoft podem prometer que mantêm os dados de sua organização seguros, mas quem pode confirmar se elas realmente o fazem? Com software livre, você não está à mercê das grandes empresas de tecnologia: você decide quem tem acesso às suas informações, infraestrutura e patentes em andamento.
Além disso, apenas você escolhe por quanto tempo deseja usar um programa livre. Não precisa depender de uma empresa fornecendo correções de software e atualizações de segurança. Mesmo que o desenvolvedor principal decida abandonar um programa, você pode convocar a comunidade de software livre para continuar desenvolvendo o software ou solicitar ao seu departamento de tecnologia ou a contratados externos para manter o software, o que na maioria dos casos será muito mais barato do que pagar por uma licença ano após ano.
Adicionalmente, com software livre, você decide quais recursos deseja. Se precisa de um novo recurso, pode entrar em contato com o desenvolvedor com a história e as ideias de sua organização. Alguém na sua própria organização ou um contratado externo pode adaptar o software às necessidades dela. Com software livre, você tem a liberdade de modificar, melhorar e personalizar o programa como achar adequado.
Caso os argumentos éticos não o tenham convencido a fazer a mudança para o software livre, considere fazer isso para economizar. Enquanto, em inglês, o "free" em "free software" significa "livre" como em "liberdade", não como "grátis", o software livre frequentemente economizará para sua organização milhares ou até milhões em licenças de software.
Programas livres para sua organização
Empregadores, não forcem os funcionários a trabalhar com software não-livre! Existem muitos programas fantásticos e confiáveis que respeitam a sua liberdade e a de seus trabalhadores. Para descobrir programas para os quais sua organização poderia fazer a transição, veja nossa lista de software para organizações que são comparáveis, senão melhores, do que programas privativos conhecidos.
Para encontrar ainda mais software livre adaptado às necessidades específicas de sua organização, confira o Diretório de Software Livre da FSF. Existem muitas substituições para software privativo incríveis e que respeitam a liberdade!
Não se convenceu de que é possível administrar uma organização inteira com liberdade? É, sim! A FSF tem fornecido liberdade de software a seus funcionários desde 1985! Para mais histórias de sucesso de software livre sendo usado no trabalho, veja o blogue da FSF e nossa série de entrevistas Trabalhando Juntos pelo Software Livre.
Vigilância no local de trabalho
Outra tendência que observamos com crescente preocupação é que cada vez mais tecnologia privativa tem vigiado tudo que os funcionários fazem. Medir a produtividade e controlar a presença enquanto priva as pessoas de sua liberdade e privacidade parece ter se tornado a norma. A lista de tecnologias de vigilância usadas nos locais de trabalho inclui crachás RFID, aplicativos de relógio de ponto com GPS, aplicativos NFC, registro de ponto por código QR, Apple Watch e escaneamento biométrico. Sistemas de redes sem fio, sensores de movimento e sinais Bluetooth também monitoram o comportamento e traçam perfis dos trabalhadores.
A vigilância em massa e a violação dos direitos de privacidade das pessoas é ruim, independentemente do software utilizado. Um dos principais problemas com software privativo é que você não pode conferir o que ele realmente faz. Assim, muitos funcionários são vigiados pelo software que são forçados a usar diariamente sem perceber e, mais gravemente, sem a capacidade de fazer algo contra isso.
Não se engane, não são apenas os empregadores que observam o que seus funcionários estão fazendo. A empresa de tecnologia de vigilância também coleta essas informações! Quem sabe o que eles apreendem sobre a organização e seus funcionários?
Os empregadores não deveriam monitorar os funcionários no trabalho, independentemente do software. Leia qualquer manual de negócios ou converse com um "coach" de administração, e eles lhe garantirão: quanto mais liberdade você conceder aos seus funcionários, melhor eles trabalharão. Como Stan Phelps, que estuda engajamento de funcionários e tecnologia, formulou na revista de negócios Forbes: "Ao dar aos funcionários liberdade e controle sobre suas ações, [...] os empregadores [...] aumentam o engajamento e a produtividade dos funcionários."
O que os trabalhadores podem fazer
Una-se contra o software privativo em seu local de trabalho e faça campanha contra patrões que usam tecnologia de vigilância contra você. Um único empregado pode não ser capaz de convencer a gerência a abandonar o software privativo, porém, unidos, somos fortes.
Converse com seus colegas de trabalho (e, se você tiver um bom relacionamento, também com sua gerência). Se faz parte de um sindicato, pode sugerir que realizem uma campanha de software livre no local de trabalho. Independentemente de estar sindicalizado ou não, você pode se conscientizar sobre a multitude de problemas sérios do software privativo e explicar às pessoas com quem trabalha por que a liberdade de software é um imperativo ético, no trabalho e em todos os outros lugares. Claro, você pode compartilhar este artigo com seus colegas e a gerência para reforçar seu argumento.
Confira nossa página de empregos onde publicamos empregos favoráveis ao software livre, e encontre empregadores que não o forçarão a usar software privativo, e sim respeitarão sua liberdade.
A FSF tem feito campanha pela sua liberdade de software por quarenta anos. Não podemos defender sua liberdade de usuário, no trabalho e em todos os outros lugares, sozinhos -- junte-se ao nosso trabalho crucial para proteger a liberdade dos usuários e desafiar as grandes empresas de tecnologia. Torne-se um membro associado hoje e convença seus colegas de trabalho a se juntarem a nós também. Cada membro associado conta, e cada novo membro nos ajudará a atingir nossa meta de arrecadação de 200 novos membros. Ao nos apoiar hoje, você ajuda a garantir um futuro mais brilhante.
Sabemos que nem todos estão em condições de doar US$140 ou mais, por isso também oferecemos a categoria de filiação "Amigos" por US$35 anuais que é acompanhada de um conjunto diferente de benefícios. Agora também é possível solicitar a concessão de uma filiação patrocinada à FSF.
Obrigado por permanecer vigilante e defender seus direitos de usuário de software -- no trabalho e em todos os outros lugares. Estamos aqui para apoiá-lo. Sinta-se à vontade para nos enviar um e-mail com suas histórias pessoais sobre software livre e não-livre em seu local de trabalho ou empresa. Ficaremos felizes em coletar essas histórias e publicá-las (anonimamente) se você desejar.
Saudações libertárias,
Miriam Bastian
Gerente Programática
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Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •I know "650 lbs an hour" sounds crazy, because it kinda is.
But that also just means filling one of these buckets every ~3 minutes. That's doable for the average healthy adult.
(Doing it 10hrs/day for weeks in a row is the hard part.)
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •The average orange picker pulls 876 lbs/hour.
At $20/hr, that would cost 2 cents per pound for labor.
Here's the source I'm using for lbs/hr btw:
swfrec.ifas.ufl.edu/docs/pdf/e…
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •A *slow* strawberry picker can get 20lbs/hr. If they make $20/hr, that's only $0.75 for a pint basket.
Sure, that's a noticeable price difference. And it's still nowhere near "doubling or tripling" the cost of food, as I've seen people claim repeatedly.
wweek.com/news/2016/06/29/brea…
Breaking From Custom, One Small Oregon Farm Pays Strawberry Pickers by the Hour
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •This helps explain why it's so hard to automate farm labor!
It's not that it's too hard to make a robot pick crops.
It's that humans are really, REALLY good at it. It's hard to make a robot that's BETTER at it than people.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •We even have a real-life experiment that proves paying farm workers a fair wage can be done. And prices went up so little, PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE.
In 2005, tomato pickers in FL struck a deal with Yum! Brands (Taco Bell, KFC, & others) to guarantee higher wages.
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Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •The deal?
Yum! Brands would only by from farms that had signed on to a fair food program with the Coalition of Immokalee Workers. They'd pay extra for those tomatoes, and the extra $ would be passed through directly to tomato pickers as a raise.
This deal nearly doubled tomato pickers' wages.
And guess how much this big, ground-shaking deal raised the price of tomatoes?
ONE PENNY PER POUND.
That's it.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •This program was so successful, others have signed on.
McDonald's, Burger King, Whole Foods, Subway, Trader Joe's, Chipotle, Walmart, Fresh Market, & several food service co's (Compass, Aramark, Sodexo, Bon Appetit) have all agreed to pay an extra $0.01/lb for CIW tomatoes.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •To be clear, the program isn't without controversy.
FL-based Publix has famously refused to sign on.
Its donations lean Republican. Publix heiress Julie Fancelli is a heavy right-wing donor who sponsored the Jan 6 riots.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Fa…
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Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •CIW has been incredibly successful at showing exactly how we can afford to pay farm workers a fair wage.
And certain Florida farm & food interests really, really haven't liked that. It's legitimately fueled MAGA as a political force in Florida.
Surely it's a total coincidence that Trump's first large-scale immigrant detention facility is in Florida. In easy commuting distance of the tomato fields around Immokalee
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •The reality is lots of farmers would just rather not pay fair wages.
The yields on hand-picked fruit & veg is several tons per acre.
So every penny per lb they cut from wages, is hundreds of dollars of profit in the farmer's pocket.
It sucks to think about. But that's the reality of farm wages.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Farms usually blame "large corporations" for not paying them properly, so they're "forced" to pay poor wages.
That's why CIW made these bargains directly with the large corps. To stop farms from passing the buck and playing "Aw shucks, I'd love to pay fair wages but I can't afford to."
And you know what? It took time to get the big food corps to the table. But most of them ultimately signed on. In the end, they were a lot more amenable to proper farm wages than most of the farms.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •The corps like Publix that get mad about CIW & fair farm wages, it's not bc proper farm wages will put them out of business.
It's because they get upset when ANY workers get collective bargaining wins. It's just generic anti-labor politics- not an existential threat to their business.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Anyway. When you see people hyperventilating that "B-b-but paying farm workers more would make food unaffordable!" please correct them up for me.
They might mean well? They might be trying to make a point about how much we owe the humble farm worker?
But that kind of talk is exactly how you get people believing "Gosh shucks golly. I guess we just need slavery to live."
Cut it out already.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •This is usually when I tell people "and go follow CIW (Coalition of Immokalee Workers) if you haven't already." But it looks like they're not on Mastodon.
So uhhhh go follow UFW if you haven't already, they're at mastodon.online/@ufwupdates@un…
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Ever heard someone say "We SHOULD pay farm workers more! But then oranges will cost $3 each?"
Here's the debunk in video format- with additional info that didn't make it into the thread.
Send to anyone who'd find it useful!
youtube.com/watch?v=mfHUnK81nv…
Debunking Myths On Farmworker Pay
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •We already have slavery. No one cares. Unfortunately.
Fast-food chains use Alabama prison inmates as slave labor ...
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in reply to Falling forward 🍉 • • •> No one cares.
Sorry. Obviously lots of people care. Just not enough.
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Jimmy
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Every time I see someone saying that basic human rights and reasonable pay would raise the price of food beyond affordability, I want to spit rivets.
Hon, an extra cent a pound isn't what's made your burger cost 2-3 times what it did twenty years ago, it's the fact that corporations will raise the price of their goods to the very limit of affordability and then keep ratcheting it, click-by-click, at every opportunity, while refusing to provide their workers a fraction of what they're worth.
More slave labour isn't going to make your food cheaper. Making sure that the ultracapitalists pay in spades for their inhumanity, now that might just do the trick.
Jeff
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •To add to this - the Chocolate industry has a similar reckoning worldwide with chocolate farming - but some companies, after being dragged on it, realized that maybe they could just, you know, take steps to ethically source their chocolate [ reeveconsulting.com/2024/02/14… ].
Any extra increase in wages would likely be offset by a decrease in P.R. and marketing to make people want to knowingly buy child labour-sourced chocolate.
EinsPossum, Hass-Ära
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •People need to realise that farmers arent generally "the good guys" or "the humble small business" or whatever they project onto them from the books they read and movies they watch. Sure some might be, some might try to be fair to their employees.
Where i am from, farmer protests are *extremely* far-right and routinely use Nazi iconography (that is in Germany). And i've read similarly from other places. And they do inhumane exploitation.
Su_G
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •It’s very distressing (that “lots of farmers would just rather not pay fair wages”) & it makes me ask questions about farm workers in my country (Australia) where we’ve had a number of scandals related to labour hire practices. 😐
Thanks again for shining a light on such important topics. 🙂
Su_G
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •The Florida tomato heiress sounds like a nasty pasty; mean to fund the 6 Jan insurrection & entitled as all hell but surely we’re wrong to even think this:
“Surely it's a total coincidence that Trump's first large-scale immigrant detention facility is in Florida. In easy commuting distance of the tomato fields around Immokalee” 😐
[That was a comment dripping with sarcasm for those who don’t do irony or humour…]
Karl Auerbach
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •I live in an agricultural county.
Almost every day I see people working hard in the fields.
And every time I think: Perhaps this generation of workers won't experience the full American Dream, but among their children and grandchildren will be our nation's future Curies and Mozarts, future Twains and Spielbergs - a child of one of those workers may find a cure for cancer.
I am more than happy to pay extra $$ so that these people have a better chance of growing into (and enriching) our American culture and life, just as my great grandparents and grandparents did.
I also support UBI, free healthcare, and free education for all who are here (not just citizens.)
Many of our religions - including Islam, Christianity, Judaism - all teach us to care for the foreigner and stranger.
(I would add that we need to pull back on our national worship of advanced university degrees and note that often those who work with their hands are as skilled as a scientist with a PhD.)
huntingdon
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Su_G
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Thank you so much Sarah! 🙂 for another incredibly educational, fact- & story-filled read on modern agricultural practices and workers (& those who belittle them & treat them unfairly & now meanly 😐 )
Thanks too for the link to the Coalition of Immokalee Workers (CIW): so inspirational! Hard to pick a snippet to share, they’re active in so many areas:
“Starting in 1993 from a foundation of farmworker community organizing in Immokalee, Florida, the CIW is best known today for its Fair Food Program (FFP), launched in 2011. The FFP harnesses the purchasing power of over a dozen retail food brands, from Taco Bell to Walmart, to compel compliance with a human rights-based code of conduct on participating farms. The Program was born in the Florida tomato industry and has spread to ten US states and Chile, including expansion into the cut flower industry and multiple additional crops, and incipient expansion efforts in South Africa and Mexico through the support of the US Department of Labor.[1] A new channel for co-ops and smaller independent grocery stores to support the Program is expanding through the FFP Sponsor Program.
“The FFP also gave rise to the Worker-driven Social Responsibility model (WSR), which has been successfully replicated in the apparel industry in Bangladesh through the Bangladesh Accord (now the International Accord), in Lesotho through the Lesotho Agreements,[2] and in the dairy industry in the state of Vermont through the Milk with Dignity Program. The CIW provides technical assistance to organizations that are interested in adopting the WSR model through an umbrella organization, the WSR-Network.”
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Ha ha ha! Very good point: “Not to be flippant but evolution did see to it that we're really good at getting food off of trees & bushes. We have a rather meaningful several-million-year head start over the robots here.” :-😁
Why don’t we value & celebrate these amazing skills (instead of bankers & financiers who you might say are doing badly, stuff that computers do better… nonAI-infested computers I mean… talking about actual maths & stuff like that here). 😐
Nemo
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •it's actually really, really hard. Vision needs to be much better than it is, picking soft things very fast, planning the lifting of obstructions to access the fruit, the picking itself with highly nonlinear mechanics, the bringing the bucket to where it needs to go on complex terrain, with moving obstacles...
All in all, a robotics nightmare.
RootWyrm 🇺🇦
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •oh NO, $0.75/pint in labor charges! And then all the other things probably add up to what, $0.70/pint? (No, seriously, how much is it? I would assume labor is the largest share at scale.)
A pint weighs about 10-14oz.
The local grocery chain charges $5 per pound, or $7 for 2lbs in season.
rk: it’s hyphen-minus actually
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •rastilin
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •I mean, ultimately we need to pay for people's time. If the real actual cost of paying everyone properly doubles the costs of food, then we just need to get used to paying double.
Because the alternative is just saying our society can only work if we embrace "neo slavery". It's not reasonable to base society's food production on just not properly paying for people's time.
But yeah, after looking at the actual numbers, it wouldn't get close to doubling costs.
Nanook
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •The same concept applied to fast food workers infuriates me as well...
"If fast food workers get $25/hour, a burger and fries will cost $30!"
Uh... Only if they make one burger an hour. Restaurant workers in Europe make substantially more, and meals are still affordable.
Nevermind the fact that they keep minimum wage painfully low, but keep jacking up the prices anyway.
GhostOnTheHalfShell
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •My dear, you are simply amazing.
I love all of your posts!
Cait the Proud Trans Woman
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Y'all...in the US and Canada, you need to read the thread i'm replying to. If you're interested in just outcomes...read this thread. If you consume food...read this thread.
Gonna blow your mind totally: we've been systematically lied to by Big Ag and farm owners. I know, imagine, a huge capitalist industry lying to its consumers? Unpossible, right?
But it's true. OP has receipts. Go learn why food is expensive, and wages for food growers and pickers are cheap (hint: follow the money).
Seriously. Best thread I've read here this *year*.
EDIT: mastodon.online/@sarahtaber/11…
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •I live under the arrival and departure paths for half the private jets that fly in and out of Van Nuys, and no shocker, a lot of them are owned by Big Ag families and companies and are flying between Los Angeles and the Central or Imperial Valleys where they make their billions.
...in case people are wondering what their food budget is paying for.
(I'm guessing the passengers in those jets are pissed with Stephen Miller right now.)
txtav.com/en/journey/articles/…
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Business aircraft in agriculture
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •[screaming office manager] "But if we will pay extra 3 cents per pound we will not meet wall-street expectations for profit growth for 0.0001%! [screeching]
Poloniousmonk
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •I say pay everybody a living wage and deal with any downstream effects afterward.
Honestly, I don't understand why this is a controversial position. America is the richest nation in the world. It's a fucking disgrace that we have poverty here.
Just pay every-fucking-body a living wage. Ensure they have housing. And health care. And food. And education for themselves and their children. And connectivity. We could do it for a tenth of what we pay for cops.
Syphist
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •people always complain that wages will make prices go up.
So when wages don't rise but prices do, they juat shrug and go "eh, what ya gonna do about it, thats the economy for ya"
And most people bitching about raised prices are mostly the ones least affected by them...
Tom 🇵🇸 🇺🇦
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •CyberFrog
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •people who say this shit have never worked on a farm, try picking lettuce or tomatos faster than an experienced worker... they'd have finished 5lb of food before you're done 1lb, and honestly you'd probably cut off a finger trying to keep up with them
besides that, the majority cost of many foods is processing and stuff like pre-washing/cutting/preparing, because that counts as a "value added good" they just have way higher profit margins based on nothing but convenience... paying the farm workers more wouldn't do much at all to food costs lol
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •@LabSpokane Here in WA, they pay cherry pickers based on how much they pick instead of an hourly rate.
Also, I recently heard some news stories about migrant pickers being afraid to come to work (because of ICE) and that with more notice, Americans could have filled the gap and picked.
Bull-fucking-shit.
I've been living and working among cherry orchards for 20 years and I have never seen an American pick cherries.
delve ✨
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •mike805
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •"Banning slavery would spike the cost of cotton. Nobody would be able to afford clothing."
Most of the financial value added in a farm to store chain is well past the farm. Paying a bit more at the bottom of the value chain does not raise the price much.
This would also apply to the cobalt miners in Africa, for example. Treating them a bit more like human beings would not raise the price of an EV very much.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •#livingwage #whatfoodcosts
(Humans more efficient pickers than anything except locusts... )
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Read the post up.
Poverty is arranged. Poverty is a fence drawn around people. Poverty is a construction made by wealthy folks.
Costco pays a significant amount more, for example, than its competitors. Those competitors and even unrelated corps have done everything in their power to ask, or force, Costco to lower wages, and they subverted them, and lost LOTS of money trying to undersell and ruin Costco.
Poverty is imposed. Poverty is a crime, the poor it's victims.
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