in reply to Daftydux

What I hope for those in other countries, is that they understand that I had no control or decision of what vagina I fell out of or what dirt I landed on.

I did not choose to be American, I was just born here. And I most certainly do not agree or approve of any war.

I do hope most other decent people might agree with me.

Fuck Donald Turd.

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in reply to over_clox

I hear you, the issue for me is that a third of your country people voted for the cunt, another third didn't care enough not to vote against the cunt, which leaves a large majority of Americans complicit in this - enough in my view to effectively use the term as a blanket reference to most people in the country.

Speaking on a more granular level, I wish you well and the best of luck - but the majority of your population can go fuck themselves.

in reply to Daftydux

Has it ever crossed anyone's mind, that those of that didn't vote, was usually because we didn't approve of either candidate?

I never approved of orange baby, plain and simple.

Kamala was cool though, looking to help people and not deceive them, and I just might have voted for her.

But even though I have no problem with a female president, she would have too many world stage problems with countries and groups that don't respect women at all.

So, seeing both as a risk, why would I have voted for either? Like, why did Pete Buttiguieg drop out?

That's the real question, what forces in play made my dude Pete drop out? I sure as hell would have voted for him!

in reply to Daftydux

You gotta get in the building first. Back in 2016, me and a friend went to vote. I would have voted Vermin Supreme (legit candidate no less), and my buddy planned on writing in Batman.

We stood in line for around 2 hours. For about the last half hour of waiting it was raining. Around half of everyone knew the weather forecast and had an umbrella, including us.

They closed the voting place (library) down at 8pm sharp, and the cops told everyone in line to go home. We were probably 150~200 people back in line.

We all waited that long, even in the fucking rain, only to be ordered to leave?!

If it matters (which it probably does), our state doesn't have early voting, you get one day to do it and that's it.

Wait 2 goddamn hours, partly in the rain, only to get shut down with around 200 people or so waiting to vote?!

Sooo.. I've never had a chance to see the inside of a voting facility. Not for lack of trying though.

in reply to over_clox

"I didn't like either, so I did nothing" is such a bullshit excuse...

Like it or not, we have a two party system and this was the worst possible time for anyone to decide to do nothing. Non-voters are just as complicit in what's going on now because they chose to do fuck all when it actually mattered... I hope the righteous objection through inaction was worth it, because people are dying as a result now.

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in reply to Capt. Wolf

Read my other comment, I tried in 2016, definitely wasn't going to vote for orange. I never got to see the inside of the voting place.

After waiting around 2 hours, they shut down and cops ordered everyone remaining in line to leave at 8pm. There were probably around 200 people outside still waiting to vote..

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You gotta get in the building first. Back in 2016, me and a friend went to vote. I would have voted Vermin Supreme (legit candidate no less), and my buddy planned on writing in Batman.

We stood in line for around 2 hours. For about the last half hour of waiting it was raining. Around half of everyone knew the weather forecast and had an umbrella, including us.

They closed the voting place (library) down at 8pm sharp, and the cops told everyone in line to go home. We were probably 150~200 people back in line.

We all waited that long, even in the fucking rain, only to be ordered to leave?!

If it matters (which it probably does), our state doesn't have early voting, you get one day to do it and that's it.

Wait 2 goddamn hours, partly in the rain, only to get shut down with around 200 people or so waiting to vote?!

Sooo.. I've never had a chance to see the inside of a voting facility. Not for lack of trying though.


in reply to over_clox

You tried once, so you said fuck it this time...

You know mail-in, absentee, and provisional ballots are a thing, right?

Also, if you're in line to vote and the polling place is set to close, you still have the right to cast your ballot, no matter how long it takes. They can turn new people away, but they can't just close up and send people home if they've been waiting. If you were told to leave, those cops violated the law. And if they absolutely had to close, they're required to give out provisional ballots. Know your rights dude.

in reply to Capt. Wolf

Okay, good to know. Maybe I can sue the library and the cops and get to cast my 2016 vote, wouldn't that be fucking nice if there was a time machine?

Like I said, we were in a line of probably around 200 people, and we were probably in place about 150 back towards the end of the line.

Everyone else ahead of us followed the orders first and left for their vehicles, we were towards the back of the line and were amongst the last to find out they closed as the cops ordered everyone to leave.

What the fuck you expect me to do, run around the block to get to the library door and beat on it? Get tackled and shot by cops?

You think I'm fucking stupid? If the 150 people ahead of me are complying with the cops, you think I'm gonna be the idiot to catch a bullet?

in reply to over_clox

I don't care. You did this.

Drag every dumb American leftist that was here during the election claiming this exact thing, or that Harris' support of Israel was too much and Trump wouldn't do the same. Collaborationists one and all. May as well have given the order today.

You live with that now. And as it continues to get worse I sure hope someone in your life slaps the self-serving excuses right out of you so it dawns on you, because you will have to stew in this the rest of your life.

You are the enemy, just as much as the average noncommital fascist was in the mid-20th century. You are a cautionary tale for some kid studying history in a century, assuming we get to have kids studying history in a century despite your best attempts.

in reply to over_clox

Oh, no, you're not.

You're a speck of the nameless hordes in a rogue superpower. A collaborationist in a fascist nuclear state.

You have zero relevance as an individual. You are, fundamentally, just a small part of a big problem.

I have no obligation to care about your "individuality". I care about your victims. Which exist. You have real, human victims now. And I really hope if you're being honest about your self-righteous denials throughout this thread, that it at least triggers some self-awareness about that.

in reply to over_clox

Has it ever crossed anyone's mind, that those of that didn't vote, was usually because we didn't approve of either candidate?


Christ, do they not teach the trolley problem anymore?

"Has it ever crossed anyone's mind that I didn't want the 5 guys on the main track or the 1 guy on the side track to die?"

Duh. That's the point. You act and feel guilty about a small bad thing, or do nothing and feel guilty and a big bad thing. We got the big bad ending, feel guilty.

in reply to agamemnonymous

That theory works great in hindsight, but before the election the orange turd was promising to stop wars, not start them.

Sure we all know he's a liar now, but before the election, going on their campaigns, how could anyone be sure which track would actually have more bodies in the future in that Trolley Problem.

You can't predict the future, so that's like presenting the Trolley Problem as if the switch is 10 miles before the tracks split.