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petsoi via Linux 6 months ago • lemmy

Why bootc doesn’t require “/usr merge”

The systemd docs talk about UsrMerge, and while bootc works nicely with this, it does not require it and never will. In this blog we’ll touch on the rationale for that a bit. The first stumbling bl…

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Nanook 6 months ago friendica (DFRN)

I am tired of Poettering ruining Linux. Systemd, as an init replacement would have been fine, but as an operating system and of itself, no. I really don't want to Abandon Ubuntu but if they move forward with this bullshit it is not going to leave me a choice.

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Goingdown 6 months ago • lemmy

Blog makes valid point, but why on earth there would be any current Linux distribution without usr merge?

EDIT: Especially when every major Linux distributions have already implemented usr merge long time ago.

This entry was edited (6 months ago)

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PureTryOut 6 months ago • lemmy

Alpine Linux doesn't have it yet, although as postmarketOS we convinced them of the need and are now hard at work to make it happen.

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nyan 6 months ago • lemmy

Gentoo supports either configuration, as it does with a lot of things. My systems were installed with split /usr and I have no intention of changing that, because the merge adds no value for me.

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nous 6 months ago • lemmy

I don't get it? They seem to be arguing in favor of bootc over systemd because bootc supports both split /usr and /usr merge? But systemd is the same. There is really nothing in systemd that requires it one way or another even in the linked post about systemd it says:

Note that this page discusses a topic that is actually independent of systemd. systemd supports both systems with split and with merged /usr, and the /usr merge also makes sense for systemd-less systems.

I don't really get his points for it either. Basically boils down to they don't like mutable root filesystem becuase the symlinks are so load bearing... but most distros before use merge had writable /bin anyway and nothing is stopping you from mounting the root fs as read-only in a usr merge distro.

And their main argument /opt and similar don't follow /usr merge as well as things like docker. But /opt is just a dumping ground for things that don't fir the file hierarchy and docker containers you can do what you want - like any package really nothing needs to foll

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