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What I hope for those in other countries, is that they understand that I had no control or decision of what vagina I fell out of or what dirt I landed on.
I did not choose to be American, I was just born here. And I most certainly do not agree or approve of any war.
I do hope most other decent people might agree with me.
I hear you, the issue for me is that a third of your country people voted for the cunt, another third didn't care enough not to vote against the cunt, which leaves a large majority of Americans complicit in this - enough in my view to effectively use the term as a blanket reference to most people in the country.
Speaking on a more granular level, I wish you well and the best of luck - but the majority of your population can go fuck themselves.
Don't think for a second we dont feel a strong flood emotions when we see the 66% of Americans who are a complete drain on the people around them face consequences for their actions(or inaction). The fact is, it doesnt happen nearly enough and it never changes anything.
Has it ever crossed anyone's mind, that those of that didn't vote, was usually because we didn't approve of either candidate?
I never approved of orange baby, plain and simple.
Kamala was cool though, looking to help people and not deceive them, and I just might have voted for her.
But even though I have no problem with a female president, she would have too many world stage problems with countries and groups that don't respect women at all.
So, seeing both as a risk, why would I have voted for either? Like, why did Pete Buttiguieg drop out?
That's the real question, what forces in play made my dude Pete drop out? I sure as hell would have voted for him!
Get off your high horse. You did make a choice. You chose to not make a choice.
And with the way that electoral calculus and bias works in the US, not voting is disproportionately harmful to Democratic candidates, and disproportionately helpful to Republican candidates. You helped this happen by not voting.
Since I haven't had an opportunity to even go through the process of voting, despite trying, waiting for ~2 hours, only to close at 8pm and officers ordered everyone still waiting to leave, I have no experience with the actual process of voting.
So how does the process actually work? From my understanding, unless I'm mistaken, don't people get to vote on numerous positions at once, not just the president?
Like, I'd be looking at the options and be wondering who half or more of the candidates even are, and also not even being sure exactly what the nature of their job is in the bigger picture, not knowing a damn thing about them to make any educated decision.
Also, from my understanding, in my state, if you vote Democrat, you have to vote all Democrats, and if you vote Republican, you have to vote all Republicans. Like what the hell do names and campaign goals even mean if you don't have the option to vote Democrat for one office, but might actually like the campaign goals of a Republican for another office?
It's like what the hell do names even matter, if I'm a registered Democrat voter (which I am), then shouldn't they already know how I'd vote anyways?
If I'm mistaken on any of this, by all means please let me know. Please be willing to educate inexperienced people as to how the voting process even works before giving them shit for not voting after trying, only for everyone still waiting to get sent home.
You gotta get in the building first. Back in 2016, me and a friend went to vote. I would have voted Vermin Supreme (legit candidate no less), and my buddy planned on writing in Batman.
We stood in line for around 2 hours. For about the last half hour of waiting it was raining. Around half of everyone knew the weather forecast and had an umbrella, including us.
They closed the voting place (library) down at 8pm sharp, and the cops told everyone in line to go home. We were probably 150~200 people back in line.
We all waited that long, even in the fucking rain, only to be ordered to leave?!
If it matters (which it probably does), our state doesn't have early voting, you get one day to do it and that's it.
Wait 2 goddamn hours, partly in the rain, only to get shut down with around 200 people or so waiting to vote?!
Sooo.. I've never had a chance to see the inside of a voting facility. Not for lack of trying though.
Having worked the polls: if you are in line to vote, you get to vote. The cops do not have any grounds to order you to leave your polling location because it’s “too late”. That is a violation of your rights as a citizen. The correct response is “make me; and if you do, I’ll have your fucking job, officer”.
We're also not supposed to have a felon for president in the first place, he shouldn't have been eligible to even run for office. But here we are, guess you poll workers didn't protest that either huh?
You can't sit and blame people that didn't vote when the poll workers fucking allowed it to happen.
"I didn't like either, so I did nothing" is such a bullshit excuse...
Like it or not, we have a two party system and this was the worst possible time for anyone to decide to do nothing. Non-voters are just as complicit in what's going on now because they chose to do fuck all when it actually mattered... I hope the righteous objection through inaction was worth it, because people are dying as a result now.
Read my other comment, I tried in 2016, definitely wasn't going to vote for orange. I never got to see the inside of the voting place.
After waiting around 2 hours, they shut down and cops ordered everyone remaining in line to leave at 8pm. There were probably around 200 people outside still waiting to vote..
You gotta get in the building first. Back in 2016, me and a friend went to vote. I would have voted Vermin Supreme (legit candidate no less), and my buddy planned on writing in Batman.
We stood in line for around 2 hours. For about the last half hour of waiting it was raining. Around half of everyone knew the weather forecast and had an umbrella, including us.
They closed the voting place (library) down at 8pm sharp, and the cops told everyone in line to go home. We were probably 150~200 people back in line.
We all waited that long, even in the fucking rain, only to be ordered to leave?!
If it matters (which it probably does), our state doesn't have early voting, you get one day to do it and that's it.
Wait 2 goddamn hours, partly in the rain, only to get shut down with around 200 people or so waiting to vote?!
Sooo.. I've never had a chance to see the inside of a voting facility. Not for lack of trying though.
You know mail-in, absentee, and provisional ballots are a thing, right?
Also, if you're in line to vote and the polling place is set to close, you still have the right to cast your ballot, no matter how long it takes. They can turn new people away, but they can't just close up and send people home if they've been waiting. If you were told to leave, those cops violated the law. And if they absolutely had to close, they're required to give out provisional ballots. Know your rights dude.
Okay, good to know. Maybe I can sue the library and the cops and get to cast my 2016 vote, wouldn't that be fucking nice if there was a time machine?
Like I said, we were in a line of probably around 200 people, and we were probably in place about 150 back towards the end of the line.
Everyone else ahead of us followed the orders first and left for their vehicles, we were towards the back of the line and were amongst the last to find out they closed as the cops ordered everyone to leave.
What the fuck you expect me to do, run around the block to get to the library door and beat on it? Get tackled and shot by cops?
You think I'm fucking stupid? If the 150 people ahead of me are complying with the cops, you think I'm gonna be the idiot to catch a bullet?
Drag every dumb American leftist that was here during the election claiming this exact thing, or that Harris' support of Israel was too much and Trump wouldn't do the same. Collaborationists one and all. May as well have given the order today.
You live with that now. And as it continues to get worse I sure hope someone in your life slaps the self-serving excuses right out of you so it dawns on you, because you will have to stew in this the rest of your life.
You are the enemy, just as much as the average noncommital fascist was in the mid-20th century. You are a cautionary tale for some kid studying history in a century, assuming we get to have kids studying history in a century despite your best attempts.
You're a speck of the nameless hordes in a rogue superpower. A collaborationist in a fascist nuclear state.
You have zero relevance as an individual. You are, fundamentally, just a small part of a big problem.
I have no obligation to care about your "individuality". I care about your victims. Which exist. You have real, human victims now. And I really hope if you're being honest about your self-righteous denials throughout this thread, that it at least triggers some self-awareness about that.
Has it ever crossed anyone's mind, that those of that didn't vote, was usually because we didn't approve of either candidate?
Christ, do they not teach the trolley problem anymore?
"Has it ever crossed anyone's mind that I didn't want the 5 guys on the main track or the 1 guy on the side track to die?"
Duh. That's the point. You act and feel guilty about a small bad thing, or do nothing and feel guilty and a big bad thing. We got the big bad ending, feel guilty.
That theory works great in hindsight, but before the election the orange turd was promising to stop wars, not start them.
Sure we all know he's a liar now, but before the election, going on their campaigns, how could anyone be sure which track would actually have more bodies in the future in that Trolley Problem.
You can't predict the future, so that's like presenting the Trolley Problem as if the switch is 10 miles before the tracks split.
Uh, dude's been a known liar for decades. He made himself known well before 2016, even more so for the next 4 years. We all said this was going to happen, no one else is surprised. You were warned.
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Well ultimately it's your choice but I've had pretty good experiences with Aliexpress, those Aria 2 are only $80 in their Aliexpress store. The thing with Chinkshit is that you really do get what you pay for, and I've bought both cheap and expensive shit on Aliexpress and eventually did get the item, even if it took months lol.
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Do you believe yourself strong enough to handle that youkai which even the gap hag fears? I'm not talking physical or magical strength of course. As it is with the oni, no matter how strong you became it would not be enough to compare to her. A lifetime of training would not even scratch the surface of what she has. Instead someone like her would seek to have a man with a strong strength of will. One who can stand in front of her and make her break down blushing by spouting genuine compliments. One who will get up and keep motivated to stay with her even when someone else threatens him. youtube.com/watch?v=LjWhSEKxOL…
Am I the only one who finds the notion of a 300 foot deep bunker preposterous? There's a mine here in N Idaho that's 5000 feet below the surface, but a country capable of building nukes can only get themselves 300 feet??? Something stinks...
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I am absolutely convinced that only a small minority, a very small minority, among men, are seriously reached and profoundly moved by our propaganda of criticism, of doubt, of rebellion, of free investigation, of independent research. On the other hand, it is clear that our first interest lies always in seeking to increase this minority; to keep it, under all circumstances alive, active, refreshed. Our own happiness depends on it. -- Emile Armand
As for the technical results of the strike and the extent of damage at the three targeted sites, that remains uncertain, we’re still awaiting the official Iranian position.
What stands out so far in Iran’s immediate reactions is that Iranian state TV claimed the nuclear materials and technology had been relocated prior to the American strike. I’m not sure which entity issued this statement.
Frankly, that’s a strange position. Countries that want to prevent further strikes don’t say such things, they claim everything was destroyed.
If Iran truly did move its nuclear materials and safeguard them in secret locations to allow for the eventual rebuilding of the program, then publicly saying they were untouched makes little sense, unless the aim is to downplay the strike’s effectiveness to avoid the need for an Iranian retaliation.
aj has the shittiest analysis. chances are no real was damage done. just like everyone has said. even the bunker buster can't get 90m deep. 30-40m tops. And successive hits won't each take another 30-40. The rock gets packed down so successive hits make less progress. granted there is motivation to save face in front of the nation, the iranian people. But if there's radioactive fallout, the IR can't just lie away about it. They will be forced to respond. Thus far, i still think the u.s. attack was all show. Let's see what the next few hours bring.
I picked up Daniel de Visé's *The Blues Brothers: An Epic Friendship, the Rise of Improv, and the Making of an American Film Classic* at LA's Diesel Books:
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it's poignant that they were only able to secure such legendary artists for the movie because they were so neglected at the time. Before I saw the Blues Brothers I'd heard of Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles and James Brown but never really got what the big deal was, this clued me in and I'm forever grateful.
The movie is fucking funny too, and still hits home. I hate Illinois Nazis
@pluralistic I really liked the great scene with John Lee Hooker on Maxwell Street. As a young girl my mother lived on Maxwell street. at the time, and maybe still, there was a Jewish section
@Asbestos that bit is brilliant, my favourite number is with Ray Charles, and the crowd dancing to Shake a Tail Feather. Apparently Landis felt the dancing in that part was not up to scratch but I love to see a bunch of people having a good time.
@Asbestos @radiophobicsherkpop Sadly, Maxwell Street is all gone, just modern dorms, UIC stadiums and condos now. Manny's Deli is the only thing that's left of the Jewish part of that neighborhood.
It was on the receiving table I sat next to as I signed books after a book-tour reading, and I snuck peeks at the back cover while I chatted with the long line of attendees.
By the time the line was cleared, there was no question that I was going to buy this book, even though it wasn't formally for sale for a couple days (the bookstore staff were kind enough to make an exception for me, not least because I promised them that I wouldn't get a chance to read it for quite some time as I flitted from city to city on the rest of the tour).
The Blues Brothers has been been a big part of my life. I joined a group in Melbourne who performed along side the monthly screenings for years. I met my wife there. A group of us were invite to the filming of the sequel and are extras in the movie. We got to meet Dan and the band. I love the music and searched for more of that music. I will definitely look for this book.
Really nice love letter to the movie. I'll have to pick up the book.
I played in a Blues Brothers cover band (so covers of covers, really) in high school - very fun. Out second gig, though, was the weekend after Belushi's death, which certainly put a pall over the mood.
“Truth Social started experiencing global outages around the world within minutes of #Trump posting details of a US military strike on #Iran.” www.wired.com/story/truth-...
@_benui What my theory presupposes is: every one of the cross-ticks on this board represents a real example of SV & TECH market manipulation.
now all i have to do is solve this arcane 27-element lateral logic puzzle. Using everything that I already know about high-tech and insider Sandhill Road gossip. 💋
i only hope i don’t get killed before—- urk, hey, how did you get in here what? why do you have a gu
@_benui Feels like "Worse than existing tech" (aka the "Every replacement for trains is worse than trains" phenomenon) should be in there somewhere. Not sure where to squeeze it in tho.
Could we please get away from labeling "destroys jobs" being a bad thing? Because everything that reduces workload "destroys jobs". The problem is not that technology reduces workload. The problem is that we live in a society, that makes people depend on doing work that can be automated.
Neoconservatives have finally gotten the war with Iran they wanted. Trump has acted like a perfect thug and an easily manipulated one at that. My early reaction to the news of the attack.
...ed military strikes on three Iranian nuclear sites.🤨
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Do you drooling retards even remember how Bush's Iraq disaster nuked the Republican party's electoral prospects for several elections and paved the way for a homosexual Nigger to become president? Is "owning the Poast chuds" really worth it if the disastrous consequences of war with Iran results in the Democrats taking back power and flooding the US with an additional 30 million shitskin Invaders?
As a handful of progressive US lawmakers condemn Trump’s decision to attack Iran, the primary congressional leaders of the Democratic Party have yet to issue statements on the unprovoked US strikes.
Representative Hakeem Jeffries and Senator Chuck Schumer, who lead the Democratic caucus in the House of Representatives and the Senate, respectively, have yet to issue statements on the attacks.
Both are outspoken supporters of Israel and have taken a hawkish stance on Iran.
In a statement on Friday, Jeffries said that Iran could not become “nuclear-capable” and that Israel has a “right to defend itself”, but noted that only the US Congress has the right to declare war.
A recent poll found that 65 percent of people who identified with the Democratic Party are opposed to US involvement in Israel’s war against Iran, with just 15 percent in favour.
@ml@mitexleo.one #Iran has a right to defend itself from an unprovoked attack by #Israel. Full stop. Goddamnit this is one of the reasons I am so fucking fed-up with the #DemocraticParty in the #US. Fuck every last one of them!
As a handful of progressive US lawmakers condemn Trump’s decision to attack Iran, the primary congressional leaders of the Democratic Party have yet to issue statements on the unprovoked US strikes.
Representative Hakeem Jeffries and Senator Chuck Schumer, who lead the Democratic caucus in the House of Representatives and the Senate, respectively, have yet to issue statements on the attacks.
Both are outspoken supporters of Israel and have taken a hawkish stance on Iran.
In a statement on Friday, Jeffries said that Iran could not become “nuclear-capable” and that Israel has a “right to defend itself”, but noted that only the US Congress has the right to declare war.
A recent poll found that 65 percent of people who identified with the Democratic Party are opposed to US involvement in Israel’s war against Iran, with just 15 percent in favour.
A parliamentary committee overseeing #intelligence confirmed earlier this month that #Italy had used mercenary spyware made by Israel-based Paragon Solutions against two Italian #activists.
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Dictators love wars, believing they unite people behind them against the foreign "threat," real or imagined, and distract the public fron their domestic crimes. Let's hope the #media remember that now that #Trump has started an absolutely illegal war with #Iran.
Just when I thought Google couldn't get worse, it went in for more enshittification. We've got special brand map symbology for national brands & slogans for some! We've got suggested activities while there! (Telling me I might want to replace my car keys is funny; I don't have a car.) We can have a chat with the brand (probably a shitty chatbot) in Google maps. We can also be followed now, as if Google maps were a social media!
SO CREEPY!! @pluralistic have you seen this stuff?
US #president to address nation, says ‘now is time for peace’ after ‘full payload of bombs’ dropped on underground #Fordo site; #Natanz and #Isfahan also hit * ‘This is historic moment for US, #Israel and the world’ — #Trump
@ArdainianRight Trump ran as an antithesis to people like Bush and then turned outed to be even more egregious in their worst qualities than they were.
Bush invaded Iraq, but did so only by cynically exploiting America’s rage over 9/11 as a justification. What justification did Trump have to do this, especially when 99% of the country was vocally against it. He’s brazenly doing Israel’s genocidal work with OUR resources and daring anyone to do something about. I think that makes him magnitudes worse than even Bush.
In a recent call with French President Macron, Iranian President Pezeshkian reiterated that Iran will never renounce its right to possess peaceful nuclear capabilities.
Is Trump just a drooling Retard who himself decided that he would pander to NeverTrump Neocons and betray the people who got him elected, or does Mossad actually have evidence of him fucking kids?
Caitlin Johnstone- I feel so stupid for having bought into Gabbard’s antiwar schtick early on. Fuck this asshole, fuck Trump, fuck Israel, and fuck the US empire.
Back in the day, there was a fad among programmers for, well, having blood in their caffeine stream. See Jolt Cola: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolt_Col…
Is being highly caffeinated still something people brag about (more than in the larger culture)?
Or is it all microdosing hallucinogens, etc.? Or whatever replaced that?
(It’d be interesting to see the demographics of microdosing. It feels like something driven by Thought Leaders rather than bottom-up, but I’m out of touch.)
people in my circles didn't drink jolt for bragging rights
jolt cola was a tool. a means to an end. we wanted to Get Shit Done and jolt cola was how we stayed up long enough to see it through. benezdrine was hard to find and marching powder was expensive, but the gas station sold jolt all night.
The Democrats are going to retake Congress and send the entire Trump family to prison and they're making victory laps on social media like they're winning. 🙄
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> A friend of mine runs an image board for furry art. He thought that people would use generative AI tools as a part of their workflows to make better works of art faster. He was wrong, it just led to people flooding the site with the results of "wolf girl with absolutely massive milkers showing her feet paws" from their favourite image generation tool in every fur color imaginable, then with different characters, then with different anatomical features. There was no artistic direction or study there. Just an endless flood of slop that was passable at best.
oh come on, the only issue here is the volume of slop it enables, humans create tons of this furry beatoff material purely by hand with no regard for "art".
over_clox
in reply to Daftydux • • •What I hope for those in other countries, is that they understand that I had no control or decision of what vagina I fell out of or what dirt I landed on.
I did not choose to be American, I was just born here. And I most certainly do not agree or approve of any war.
I do hope most other decent people might agree with me.
Fuck Donald Turd.
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PhobosAnomaly
in reply to over_clox • • •I hear you, the issue for me is that a third of your country people voted for the cunt, another third didn't care enough not to vote against the cunt, which leaves a large majority of Americans complicit in this - enough in my view to effectively use the term as a blanket reference to most people in the country.
Speaking on a more granular level, I wish you well and the best of luck - but the majority of your population can go fuck themselves.
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Daftydux
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over_clox
in reply to Daftydux • • •Has it ever crossed anyone's mind, that those of that didn't vote, was usually because we didn't approve of either candidate?
I never approved of orange baby, plain and simple.
Kamala was cool though, looking to help people and not deceive them, and I just might have voted for her.
But even though I have no problem with a female president, she would have too many world stage problems with countries and groups that don't respect women at all.
So, seeing both as a risk, why would I have voted for either? Like, why did Pete Buttiguieg drop out?
That's the real question, what forces in play made my dude Pete drop out? I sure as hell would have voted for him!
Daftydux
in reply to over_clox • • •over_clox
in reply to Daftydux • • •What a wonderful response, objecting against someone that would have actually voted if Pete would have stayed in the running.
I may not have voted, but I know for a fact I would never vote for the diaper.
Like, why is it always a heads/tails coin decision?
And what the fuck is up with the Electoral College?
felbane
in reply to over_clox • • •By not voting at all, you cemented Trump's victory.
You don't get to say "well I wanted it to be different" now.
Do better next time. Do something next time.
over_clox
in reply to felbane • • •gravitas_deficiency
in reply to over_clox • • •Get off your high horse. You did make a choice. You chose to not make a choice.
And with the way that electoral calculus and bias works in the US, not voting is disproportionately harmful to Democratic candidates, and disproportionately helpful to Republican candidates. You helped this happen by not voting.
over_clox
in reply to gravitas_deficiency • • •Well riddle me this..
Since I haven't had an opportunity to even go through the process of voting, despite trying, waiting for ~2 hours, only to close at 8pm and officers ordered everyone still waiting to leave, I have no experience with the actual process of voting.
So how does the process actually work? From my understanding, unless I'm mistaken, don't people get to vote on numerous positions at once, not just the president?
Like, I'd be looking at the options and be wondering who half or more of the candidates even are, and also not even being sure exactly what the nature of their job is in the bigger picture, not knowing a damn thing about them to make any educated decision.
Also, from my understanding, in my state, if you vote Democrat, you have to vote all Democrats, and if you vote Republican, you have to vote all Republicans. Like what the hell do names and campaign goals even mean if you don't have the option to vote Democrat for one office, but might actually like the campaign goals of a Republican for another office?
It's like what the hell do names even matter, if I'm a registered Democrat voter (which I am), then shouldn't they already know how I'd vote anyways?
If I'm mistaken on any of this, by all means please let me know. Please be willing to educate inexperienced people as to how the voting process even works before giving them shit for not voting after trying, only for everyone still waiting to get sent home.
Daftydux
in reply to over_clox • • •What skin would it have taken for you to just pull the lever for kamala?
Maybe youre saving it for "the one"
over_clox
in reply to Daftydux • • •You gotta get in the building first. Back in 2016, me and a friend went to vote. I would have voted Vermin Supreme (legit candidate no less), and my buddy planned on writing in Batman.
We stood in line for around 2 hours. For about the last half hour of waiting it was raining. Around half of everyone knew the weather forecast and had an umbrella, including us.
They closed the voting place (library) down at 8pm sharp, and the cops told everyone in line to go home. We were probably 150~200 people back in line.
We all waited that long, even in the fucking rain, only to be ordered to leave?!
If it matters (which it probably does), our state doesn't have early voting, you get one day to do it and that's it.
Wait 2 goddamn hours, partly in the rain, only to get shut down with around 200 people or so waiting to vote?!
Sooo.. I've never had a chance to see the inside of a voting facility. Not for lack of trying though.
Sciaphobia
in reply to over_clox • • •Is that what happened in 2024 as well?
Daftydux
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in reply to Daftydux • • •over_clox
in reply to Sciaphobia • • •gravitas_deficiency
in reply to over_clox • • •over_clox
in reply to gravitas_deficiency • • •When the poll workers go home and lock up, what am I supposed to do, break in and turn the machines back on?
The poll workers should have protested, the potential voters couldn't do shit.
gravitas_deficiency
in reply to over_clox • • •over_clox
in reply to gravitas_deficiency • • •We're also not supposed to have a felon for president in the first place, he shouldn't have been eligible to even run for office. But here we are, guess you poll workers didn't protest that either huh?
You can't sit and blame people that didn't vote when the poll workers fucking allowed it to happen.
Capt. Wolf
in reply to over_clox • • •"I didn't like either, so I did nothing" is such a bullshit excuse...
Like it or not, we have a two party system and this was the worst possible time for anyone to decide to do nothing. Non-voters are just as complicit in what's going on now because they chose to do fuck all when it actually mattered... I hope the righteous objection through inaction was worth it, because people are dying as a result now.
over_clox
in reply to Capt. Wolf • • •Read my other comment, I tried in 2016, definitely wasn't going to vote for orange. I never got to see the inside of the voting place.
After waiting around 2 hours, they shut down and cops ordered everyone remaining in line to leave at 8pm. There were probably around 200 people outside still waiting to vote..
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over_clox
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Capt. Wolf
in reply to over_clox • • •You tried once, so you said fuck it this time...
You know mail-in, absentee, and provisional ballots are a thing, right?
Also, if you're in line to vote and the polling place is set to close, you still have the right to cast your ballot, no matter how long it takes. They can turn new people away, but they can't just close up and send people home if they've been waiting. If you were told to leave, those cops violated the law. And if they absolutely had to close, they're required to give out provisional ballots. Know your rights dude.
over_clox
in reply to Capt. Wolf • • •Okay, good to know. Maybe I can sue the library and the cops and get to cast my 2016 vote, wouldn't that be fucking nice if there was a time machine?
Like I said, we were in a line of probably around 200 people, and we were probably in place about 150 back towards the end of the line.
Everyone else ahead of us followed the orders first and left for their vehicles, we were towards the back of the line and were amongst the last to find out they closed as the cops ordered everyone to leave.
What the fuck you expect me to do, run around the block to get to the library door and beat on it? Get tackled and shot by cops?
You think I'm fucking stupid? If the 150 people ahead of me are complying with the cops, you think I'm gonna be the idiot to catch a bullet?
MudMan
in reply to over_clox • • •I don't care. You did this.
Drag every dumb American leftist that was here during the election claiming this exact thing, or that Harris' support of Israel was too much and Trump wouldn't do the same. Collaborationists one and all. May as well have given the order today.
You live with that now. And as it continues to get worse I sure hope someone in your life slaps the self-serving excuses right out of you so it dawns on you, because you will have to stew in this the rest of your life.
You are the enemy, just as much as the average noncommital fascist was in the mid-20th century. You are a cautionary tale for some kid studying history in a century, assuming we get to have kids studying history in a century despite your best attempts.
over_clox
in reply to MudMan • • •MudMan
in reply to over_clox • • •Oh, no, you're not.
You're a speck of the nameless hordes in a rogue superpower. A collaborationist in a fascist nuclear state.
You have zero relevance as an individual. You are, fundamentally, just a small part of a big problem.
I have no obligation to care about your "individuality". I care about your victims. Which exist. You have real, human victims now. And I really hope if you're being honest about your self-righteous denials throughout this thread, that it at least triggers some self-awareness about that.
over_clox
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in reply to over_clox • • •Christ, do they not teach the trolley problem anymore?
"Has it ever crossed anyone's mind that I didn't want the 5 guys on the main track or the 1 guy on the side track to die?"
Duh. That's the point. You act and feel guilty about a small bad thing, or do nothing and feel guilty and a big bad thing. We got the big bad ending, feel guilty.
over_clox
in reply to agamemnonymous • • •That theory works great in hindsight, but before the election the orange turd was promising to stop wars, not start them.
Sure we all know he's a liar now, but before the election, going on their campaigns, how could anyone be sure which track would actually have more bodies in the future in that Trolley Problem.
You can't predict the future, so that's like presenting the Trolley Problem as if the switch is 10 miles before the tracks split.
Captain Aggravated
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in reply to slackassassin • • •I didn't have TV from 2016 to 2019.
I didn't have Internet from 2016 to 2021.
agamemnonymous
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