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Statement from the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran:
In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
Following the brutal attacks launched by the Zionist enemy over the past few days, this morning, Iranian nuclear sites in Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan were attacked by the enemies of Islamic Iran, in a brutal act that contravenes international laws, especially the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
This action, which violates international law, was unfortunately carried out with indifference and even with the cooperation of the International Atomic Energy Agency.
The American enemy, through the President of this country, has claimed responsibility for the attack on the aforementioned sites, which are under the continuous supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency, based on the Safeguards Agreement and the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
The international community is expected to condemn the law-of-the-jungle chaos and support Iran in achieving its legitimate rights. The Atomic Energy Organization of Iran assures the great Iranian nation that despite the evil plots of its enemies, with the efforts of thousands of its revolutionary and enthusiastic scientists and experts, it will not allow the development of this national industry, the fruit of the blood of nuclear martyrs, to be halted.
This organization has put on its agenda the necessary measures, including legal measures, to defend the rights of the noble Iranian people.
you certainly dropped diplomacy, but i was going to ask your sources, now i don't need them. this is presstv english. this is top banner right now. they vowed legal retaliation. at the un. which they know can't/won't do anything anyways. the iranians wont react to this bc its not worth anyone's time. they know its just for his posturing and signaling. this really all depends on whether or not israel keeps hitting.
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The #USA has sent a clear and unequivocal message that the so-called #InternationalLaw, the Charter of #HumanRights, the international community, and #UN institutions are a meaningless and worthless joke. The only path to survival is to possess nuclear weapons. #Palestine #Gaza #Iran #MiddleEast
Lizardmen. Yeah, right. David Ickeβs invention. Is it based on truth? Who knows. Itβs about as good as any other theory. But it is rather common to come up with something quite outlandish if you caβ¦
It's on. Global uprising towards US imperialism starts now.
Start making US companies hurt wherever you live, because capitalism is the only language apart from violence these shitstains speak. #antifa #US #Iran
ah. perhaps you've been here before, but either way let me welcome you to 2003. the media always plays along. once we're buried and there's no good way out then they'll play to their respective audiences a bit. but they all love war. they all benefit from it.
100% this. US media will mostly parrot Trump & US PR. Al Jazeera is the only source Iβm really going to trust on accurate updates here. And even then, mostly if sourced from other surrounding nations, not sourced from Iran itself. #Iran #Israel #USPol Original post: aus.social/@Bern/114724...
@Lana@beige.party @nkalamb.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy I think it's going to take a long time for the truth to come out. Both the Iranian and Trump regimes have a track record of gas lighting.
yup. its been hours now and i dont see a significant reaction from iranian media, and no radiation reports. trump gets to say "i bombed iran", his supporters (including the anti-war contingency) will celebrate his toughness, the iranian government and people will be laughing at the narrative and then... im curious if israel is also looking for a way out or if they'll keep hitting?
Nothing says 'native people' like fleeing the land you claim is yours, the moment it gets uncomfortable, with passports from where youβre actually from π
These 'indigenous' Middle Easterners are returning home... to Bulgaria π€¨
Iβve seen reports that Ron DeSantis also sent planes to get Floridians out of Israel (and then hammed it up for the cameras). Maybe some of them were just visiting but I have to wonder how many of them were stealing Palestinian houses in East Jerusalem or engaging in pogroms in the West Bank.
the Israeliβs wet dream is having a foreign passport. Not many do but some got it through various arraignments with their parents ancestral homelands, mostly in Eastern Europe of course. But to be honest Israel these days looks more like Russia than the Israel I was born in. 1.6 million were brought in in the 1980s and many more arrived since, from Russia and Ukraine. To say that Israel is a Jewish state or Palestine is the homeland of this migrants is laughable at this point.
Hey Siri, create a fictional villain who'd commit genocide and bomb countries right and left just for his own personal political gain. Make him look over-the-top evil in a slightly unrealistic way
Quoting Jean-Pierre Filiu (Historian and professor at Sciences Po Paris) on Trumpβs Christian Zionist allies who drive anti-Palestinian policy in Gaza
[β¦] βThese messianic evangelicals are convinced that their salvation depends on the fulfillment of prophecies, which in their view means the establishment of a single Jewish state over what they consider to be the βHoly Land.ββ
Trump has assembled the most anti-Palestinian administration in US history, dominated by Christian Zionists who view Israeli control over Palestinian territories through a messianic lens. Key figures include Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth, who supports destroying Muslim holy sites in Jerusalem for a Third Temple, and Ambassador Mike Huckabee, who denies Palestinian existence and supports West Bank annexation. The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, meant to replace UN aid operations, has failed spectacularly with killings and chaos during distributions. These officials openly support Israeli recolonization of Gaza after expelling Palestinians, exposing the administrationβs complete rejection of a two-state solution.
B-2 bombers armed with bunker-busting munitions are being positioned within range of Iran's most fortified nuclear facility as Israel says the war can 'last months'
At 4 am on June 22, 1941, Nazi Germany attacked the Soviet Union.
During the war 1710 cities, 65,000 villages and hamlets, and 73,000 collective and state farms were destroyed. Over 20 million brave citizens of the USSR were massacred.
"Night Fever" by the Bee Gees is an iconic disco anthem that defined the late 1970s music scene. Featured in the film "Saturday Night Fever", this track showcases the group's signature harmonies and infectious rhythm. Its upbeat tempo and catchy melody make it a timeless classic that continues to inspire dance floors around the world.
π΅ L Y R I C S π΅: Listen to the ground There is movement all around There is something goin' down And I can feel it
On the waves of the air There is dancin' out there If it's somethin' we can share We can steal it
And that sweet city woman She moves through the light Controlling my mind and my soul When you reach out for me Yeah, and the feelin' is right
Then I get night fever, night fever We know how to do it Gimme that night fever, night fever We know how to show it
Here I am Prayin' for this moment to last Livin' on the music so fine Borne on the wind Makin' it mine
Night fever, night fever We know how to do it Gimme that night fever, night fever We know how to show it
In the heat of our love Don't need no help for us to make it Gimme just enough to take us to the mornin' I got fire in my mind I get higher in my walkin' And I'm glowin' in the dark I give you warnin'
And that sweet city woman She moves through the night Controlling my mind and my soul When you reach out for me Yeah, and the feelin' is right
Then I get night fever, night fever We know how to do it Gimme that night fever, night fever We know how to show it
Here I am Prayin' for this moment to last Livin' on the music so fine Borne on the wind Makin' it mine
Night fever, night fever We know how to do it Gimme that night fever, night fever We know how to show it
Gimme that night fever, night fever We know how to do it Gimme that night fever, night fever We know how to show it Gimme that night fever, night fever We know how to do it
Album Artist: Bee Gees Album(s): Saturday Night Fever (Soundtrack) Written by: Barry Gibb, Robin Gibb, Maurice Gibb Music genre(s): Disco, Pop Released: 1977 Decade for first release: #1970sMusic
Michael Jackson's official 4K music video for "Thriller"
Michael Jackson's 14-minute short film "Thriller" revolutionised the music video genre forever. Hailed as the greatest music video of all time by MTV, VH1, Rolling Stone and others, "Thriller," directed by John Landis, is also the only music video selected to be included in the Library of Congress' prestigious National Film Registry.
Michael Jackson's short film for "Thriller" was the third of three short films produced for recordings from Thriller, which continues its reign as the biggest selling album of all time with worldwide sales in excess of 105 million as of June 1, 2016 and in December 2015 became the first ever album to be awarded triple diamond status (i.e.: sales in excess of 30 million) by the RIAA for US sales alone. The "Thriller" single reached No. 1 in four countries in 1984, topping the U.S. Billboard Hot Dance Club Play chart as well as charts in Spain, France and Belgium. The song peaked at No. 4 on the Billboard Hot 100, making Thriller the first album to feature seven Top 10 singles. The Recording Industry Association of America certified "Thriller" Gold and Platinum on December 4, 1989.
The groundbreaking short films for the Thriller album, starting with "Billie Jean," following up with "Beat It" and culminating with the epic, nearly 14-minute "Thriller," truly expanded the possibilities of "music video" as art form. "I wanted something that would glue you to the set, something you'd want to watch over and over," Michael wrote in his 1988 memoir Moonwalk. "I wanted to be a pioneer in this relatively new medium and make the best short music movies we could make."
In the short film's extended prologue, Michael's moonlit date with his girlfriend (played by model Ola Ray) is interrupted by his sudden transformation into a howling werewolf. While the "real" Michael and Ola, observing the scene in a movie theatre, walk home from the their date, Michael teases her by singing the verses of "Thriller."
π΅ L Y R I C S π΅: It's close to midnight and something evil's lurking in the dark Under the moonlight, you see a sight that almost stops your heart You try to scream, but terror takes the sound before you make it And you start to freeze as horror looks you right between the eyes You're paralysed
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night And no one's gonna save you from the beast about to strike You know it's thriller, thriller night You're fighting for your life inside a killer, thriller tonight, yeah Ooh
You hear the door slam and realize there's nowhere left to run And you feel the cold hand and wonder if you'll ever see the sun And you close your eyes and hope that this is just imagination (girl) But all the while, you hear a creature creepin' up behind You're out of time
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night There ain't no second chance against the thing with 40 eyes, girl Thriller (ooh), thriller night You're fighting for your life inside a killer, thriller tonight
Night creatures call And the dead start to walk in their masquerade There's no escaping the jaws of the alien this time (They're open wide) this is the end of your life Ooh
They're out to get you, there's demons closing in on every side (ooh) They will possess you unless you change that number on your dial Now is the time for you and I to cuddle close together, yeah All through the night, I'll save you from the terror on the screen I'll make you see
That this is thriller, thriller night 'Cause I can thrill you more than any ghoul would ever dare try Thriller (ooh), thriller night So let me hold you tight and share a killer, diller, chiller, thriller Here tonight
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night Girl, I can thrill you more than any ghoul would ever dare try Thriller (ooh), thriller night So let me hold you tight and share a killer, thriller (ow!)
I'm gonna thrill you tonight Darkness falls across the land The midnight hour is close at hand Creatures crawl in search of blood To terrorize y'all's neighborhood
I'm gonna thrill you tonight And whosoever shall be found Without the soul for getting down Must stand and face the hounds of Hell And rot inside a corpse's shell
The foulest stench is in the air The funk of forty thousand years (thriller, thriller night) And grisly ghouls from every tomb (I'm gonna thrill you tonight, thriller) Are closing in to seal your doom (ooh, baby, oh yeah)
And though you fight to stay alive (ooh, I'm gonna thrill you tonight) Your body starts to shiver (I'm gonna thrill you tonight) For no mere mortal can resist (thriller, thriller tonight) The evil of the thriller
Written by Rod Temperton Produced by Quincy Jones for Quincy Jones Productions From the album Thriller, released November 30, 1982 Released as a single January 23, 1984
THE SHORT FILM Director: John Landis Primary Production Location: Los Angeles, California
Album Artist: Michael Jackson Album(s): Thriller Written by: Rodney Temperton Music genre(s): Pop, Rock Released: 1982 Decade for first release: #1980sMusic
"You Can Leave Your Hat On" by Joe Cocker is a powerful ballad that showcases his soulful voice and emotional delivery. Originally written by Randy Newman, this track gained immense popularity after being featured in the film "9Β½ Weeks", with Kim Basinger and Mickey Rourke. Its passionate lyrics and memorable melody make it a timeless classic that resonates with listeners even today.
π΅ L Y R I C S π΅: Baby take off your coat Real slow 'N take off your shoes I'll take off that shoes Baby take off your dress Yes, yes, yes
You can leave your hat on You can leave your hat on You can leave your hat on
Go over there, turn on the lights All the lights, Come over here, stand on this chair Yes, that's right Raise your arms up in the air Now shake 'em
You give me reason to live You give me reason to live You give me reason to live You give me reason to live
Sweet darling You can leave your hat on Baby!.. You can leave your hat on
Sax Solo:
(You can leave your hat on)
(You can leave your hat on)
Suspicious minds are talkin' They're tryin' to tear us apart They don't believe in this love of mine But they don't know what love is
They don't know what love is They don't know what love is They don't know what love is But I know what love is!
There ain't no way (You can leave your hat on) You can leave your hat on Sweet woman...
Album Artist: Joe Cocker Album(s): Cocker Written by: Randy Newman Music genre(s): Rock, Soul Released: 1986 Decade for first release: #1980sMusic
βANY RETALIATION BY IRAN AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL BE MET WITH FORCE FAR GREATER THAN WHAT WAS WITNESSED TONIGHT. THANK YOU! DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATESβ
The German chancellor's support comes amid fresh strikes launched by both Israel and Iran. Meanwhile, in Gaza, dozens were reported killed near a GHF aid distribution site. Follow DW for more.
An Iranian state TV news anchor showed a map of U.S. bases in the Middle East, which says are all βwithin fire range of Iran.β The anchor goes on to say βMr. Trump, you started it, and we will end it.β
But buh buh... peace thru death, you're not allowed to get angry or vengeful. Pack your bags, we're making you a boot on the ground. Now get out there and fight for the funny hat people.
@smugumin I think Trump wants to avoid any larger involvement, but these kinds of actions always have consequences. Leaving a wounded Iranian regime alive is dangerous, but going for full-scale regime change would also have nasty consequences.
@Ardainian Right @smuguminππ’ People seem to forget that Russia and China are also allies of Iran, do we REALLY want to get into a war with them? Not that we aren't effectively already at war with Russia in Ukraine?
@caekislove @nanook @smugumin If we actually do get a full WW3 and recorded history still exists afterward, there's a good chance it'll be recorded as having started in 2022.
I donβt even get what Joe Rogan is and where he came from before podcasts. Iβve never listened to his show. Whatβs the appeal? Like, is he an expert in anything at all?
@chozari there are multiple stages in his life. I actually liked the initial sitcom actor stage, because he was on a show I liked, but then came the fighting, reality TV host, horrible standup, and eventually this internet celebrity for the anti woke bro generation.
So Trump bombed Iran today. I guess that wasn't a natural earthquake at Fordow facility today. What do my American cousins think of this action on your behalf?
@GettingCooked Not Happy, Trump criticized prior presidents for starting wars in the middle East, promised to end the Israeli-Palestian genocide, promised to end the Ukraine-Russian war, and instead starts WW III.
According to the UN children's agency, just 40 percent of Gaza's drinking water production facilities remain functional as fuel shortages could lead to a 'man-made drought' β At least 25 of those killed were awaiting aid distribution
"We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan.
All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow.
All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great American Warriors. There is not another military in the World that could have done this.
"Trump's decision to directly intervene in support of Israel to dismantle Iran's nuclear program represents a historic escalation in the Middle East" - Axios.
The US airstrikes on Iran, a timeline of tonight, all times are in Tehran time-zone:
- Pre 1am: Israeli drones activated air defenses in several Iranian regions. - 1:14am: Fighter jets were heard over Shiraz. - 1:22am: Several aircraft were heard over central Iran. - 2:04am: Two jets [bombers] and an explosion were heard near Qom. Qom's countryside is the site of Fordow. - 2:13am: An explosion was heard near Kashan, another city near Fordow. 1/2
- 2:38am: An explosion was heard at Fordow, but it was assumed a drone was intercepted. Which has now proven wrong. - 2:41am: A loud explosion was heard at Isfahan's Atomic Energy Facility. - 2:46am: An explosion was heard at Natanz Nuclear Facility. - 2:55am: GPS jamming was observed across Iran.
Some sources claim that USA bombed Iran's nuclear facilities with bunker busters and some others claim that the thy hit with tomahawks from submarines.
Iranian state media reports that all enriched uranium had been removed from nuclear facilities, including Fordow, in advance, and there is no risk of radiation leakage due to US/Israeli attacks.
The American enemy, through cyberspace, the President of this country has taken responsibility for the attack on the aforementioned sites, which are under the continuous supervision of the IAEA based on the Safeguards Agreement and the NPT.
It is expected that the international community, while condemning the lawlessness based on the rules of the jungle, will support Iran in preserving its legitimate rights.
'Following the brutal attacks of the Zionist enemy over the past few days, at dawn today, the country's nuclear sites in Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan were attacked by the enemies of Islamic Iran in a brutal act that contradicts international laws, especially the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).
This act that contradicts international law was unfortunately carried out in amid the shadow of indifference and even the support of the IAEA β¬οΈ
The Atomic Energy Organization of Iran assures the great Iranian nation that despite the evil conspiracies of its enemies, with the efforts of thousands of its revolutionary and motivated scientists and experts, it will never allow the development of this national nuclear industry, which is the result of the blood of nuclear martyrs, to be stopped.
This organization has put the necessary measures, including legal proceedings, on its agenda to defend the rights of the noble Iranian nation.'
In the first address following the US strikes on Iran, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu congratulated Trump and the United States on the decision to hit Iran's nuclear facilities.
"Trumpβs leadership has created a pivot of history that can help lead the Middle East and beyond to a future of prosperity and peace," Netanyahu said in a televised statement.
US President Trump is also expected to hold a speech shortly.
Haaretz: Tel Aviv policeβs emergency unit reportedly screened foreign journalists at one of the Iranian missile strike sites, allowing only Israeli/Jewish reporters and questioning them about any ties to Al Jazeera.
attack active nuclear facilities, calling the US and earlier Israeli strikes on Iranβs nuclear infrastructure βunprecedented in history.β
He added that preliminary plans and protective measures had been implemented to ensure public safety, assuring that residents in surrounding areas can continue their lives normally without concern.
Kuwaitβs National Guard also reported no rise in radiation levels in the countryβs airspace or waters in the aftermath of the attacks.
Following the US aggression on Iranβs nuclear sites, including Fordow, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) confirmed that no increase in off-site radiation levels has been detected.
This was echoed by the head of Iranβs National Center for Nuclear Safety, who stated that no radioactive contamination was recorded beyond the targeted facilities, thanks to prior preparedness and protective measures.
He emphasized that, under international law and norms, no country is permitted to
Scenes of destruction after at least 27 missiles were launched from Iran in two barrages. Israeli media reported 16 injuries so far, including two in critical condition.
"Last week, we were in negotiations with the US when Israel decided to blow up that diplomacy.
This week, we held talks with the E3/EU when the US decided to blow up that diplomacy.
What conclusion would you draw?
To Britain and the EU High Rep, it is Iran which must "return" to the table. But how can Iran return to something it never left, let alone blew up?" - Abbas Araghchi.
"President Trump's political operation has launched an aggressive effort to unseat Kentucky representative Thomas Massie, its first such effort to defeat a sitting Republican incumbent.
Trump called Massie 'weak, ineffective,' and 'disrespectful to our great military, and all that they [MAGA] stand for.'" - Axios.
The US military strikes on Iranβs nuclear complex in Isfahan contained little or no nuclear material, said the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in a statement on Sunday.
"The facilities targeted today either contained no nuclear material or small quantities of natural or low enriched uranium, meaning any radioactive contamination is limited to the buildings that were damaged or destroyed," the statement read.
In March, Gabbard said that US intelligence βcontinues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weaponβ and that the countryβs supreme leader βhas not authorised the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003".
President Donald Trump dismissed the intelligence assessment on 17 June, days after Israel launched a surprise attack on the Islamic Republic.
The co-chair of European Council on Foreign Relations, Carl Bildt, said that US intelligence assessments are βevidently doctored on orders from the White Houseβ after the US Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard said that on Friday that Iran could produce nuclear weapons βwithin weeksβ, just months after testifying before Congress that the country was not building them.
Iran has launched a barrage of rockets into Israel, causing widespread damage to infrastructure and buildings.
A spokesperson for Israelβs emergency services said initial reports indicate that rockets and shrapnel struck at least 10 locations, including Carmel, Haifa, the Tel Aviv area, and the northern coastal plain.
The attack follows a major US airstrike on three of Iranβs key nuclear facilities, escalating tensions across the region. - MEE
Iran has launched a barrage of rockets into Israel, causing widespread damage to infrastructure and buildings.A spokesperson for Israelβs emergency services ...
The IDF recently attacked a Revolutionary Guards base in the Yazd region of central Iran - about 1,800 km from Israel - one of the most distant targets that Israel has attacked in Iran so far. - MenaLive
Pakistan, China, and Russia have jointly pushed for an emergency UN Security Council (UNSC) resolution calling for an immediate and unconditional ceasefire in West Asia following US strikes on Iranβs nuclear facilities, asking UNSC members to share their comments by Monday.
The draft resolution condemned the attacks and urged de-escalation, diplomatic dialogue, and respect for international law. While China and Russia both strongly criticized the US actions and called for restraint, Pakistan reaffirmed Iranβs right to self-defense.
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andrew wilson
rights don't exist. there's only force
00:52:15 "i see a right as[..]an priviledge[..]entitlement absent duty."
00:53:13 "the bill of rights is a piece of paper"
https://youtu.be/juoZhk-9jD4?t=3056
@ml@mitexleo.one > The true meaning behind Iran's "Death to America" slogan is not a literal call for violence against American citizens, but rather a political statement expressing opposition to U.S. government policies and leadership. Iranian officials, including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, have repeatedly clarified that the chant targets the actions and policies of U.S. leadersβsuch as presidents and top officialsβnot the American people themselves[1][2][3][4]. > > The slogan, which in Persian is "Marg bar ΓmrikΓ’," is often officially translated as "Down with America" to soften its literal message[1]. It originated out of anger toward U.S. government actions, particularly historical events like the 1953 CIA-backed coup in Iran and ongoing U.S. foreign policy in the region[5][6]. Many Iranians and scholars explain that the chant symbolizes resistance to perceived U.S. arrogance, interventionism, and hostility, rather than a desire for harm to ordinary Americans[1][6]. > > In summary, "Death to America" is a protest against U.S. foreign policy and leadership, not a threat against American citizens[1][2][5][6][3][4]. [1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_toβ¦ [2] dw.com/en/irans-leader-says-deβ¦ [3] timesofisrael.com/irans-khamenβ¦ [4] youtube.com/watch?v=U6AG1OqeItβ¦ [5] simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deatβ¦ [6] pulitzercenter.org/stories/whaβ¦ [7] nbcnews.com/news/world/irans-aβ¦ [8] politics.stackexchange.com/queβ¦ [9] timesofisrael.com/death-to-isrβ¦ [10] washingtonexaminer.com/restoriβ¦
What I hope for those in other countries, is that they understand that I had no control or decision of what vagina I fell out of or what dirt I landed on.
I did not choose to be American, I was just born here. And I most certainly do not agree or approve of any war.
I do hope most other decent people might agree with me.
I hear you, the issue for me is that a third of your country people voted for the cunt, another third didn't care enough not to vote against the cunt, which leaves a large majority of Americans complicit in this - enough in my view to effectively use the term as a blanket reference to most people in the country.
Speaking on a more granular level, I wish you well and the best of luck - but the majority of your population can go fuck themselves.
Don't think for a second we dont feel a strong flood emotions when we see the 66% of Americans who are a complete drain on the people around them face consequences for their actions(or inaction). The fact is, it doesnt happen nearly enough and it never changes anything.
Has it ever crossed anyone's mind, that those of that didn't vote, was usually because we didn't approve of either candidate?
I never approved of orange baby, plain and simple.
Kamala was cool though, looking to help people and not deceive them, and I just might have voted for her.
But even though I have no problem with a female president, she would have too many world stage problems with countries and groups that don't respect women at all.
So, seeing both as a risk, why would I have voted for either? Like, why did Pete Buttiguieg drop out?
That's the real question, what forces in play made my dude Pete drop out? I sure as hell would have voted for him!
Get off your high horse. You did make a choice. You chose to not make a choice.
And with the way that electoral calculus and bias works in the US, not voting is disproportionately harmful to Democratic candidates, and disproportionately helpful to Republican candidates. You helped this happen by not voting.
Since I haven't had an opportunity to even go through the process of voting, despite trying, waiting for ~2 hours, only to close at 8pm and officers ordered everyone still waiting to leave, I have no experience with the actual process of voting.
So how does the process actually work? From my understanding, unless I'm mistaken, don't people get to vote on numerous positions at once, not just the president?
Like, I'd be looking at the options and be wondering who half or more of the candidates even are, and also not even being sure exactly what the nature of their job is in the bigger picture, not knowing a damn thing about them to make any educated decision.
Also, from my understanding, in my state, if you vote Democrat, you have to vote all Democrats, and if you vote Republican, you have to vote all Republicans. Like what the hell do names and campaign goals even mean if you don't have the option to vote Democrat for one office, but might actually like the campaign goals of a Republican for another office?
It's like what the hell do names even matter, if I'm a registered Democrat voter (which I am), then shouldn't they already know how I'd vote anyways?
If I'm mistaken on any of this, by all means please let me know. Please be willing to educate inexperienced people as to how the voting process even works before giving them shit for not voting after trying, only for everyone still waiting to get sent home.
You gotta get in the building first. Back in 2016, me and a friend went to vote. I would have voted Vermin Supreme (legit candidate no less), and my buddy planned on writing in Batman.
We stood in line for around 2 hours. For about the last half hour of waiting it was raining. Around half of everyone knew the weather forecast and had an umbrella, including us.
They closed the voting place (library) down at 8pm sharp, and the cops told everyone in line to go home. We were probably 150~200 people back in line.
We all waited that long, even in the fucking rain, only to be ordered to leave?!
If it matters (which it probably does), our state doesn't have early voting, you get one day to do it and that's it.
Wait 2 goddamn hours, partly in the rain, only to get shut down with around 200 people or so waiting to vote?!
Sooo.. I've never had a chance to see the inside of a voting facility. Not for lack of trying though.
Having worked the polls: if you are in line to vote, you get to vote. The cops do not have any grounds to order you to leave your polling location because itβs βtoo lateβ. That is a violation of your rights as a citizen. The correct response is βmake me; and if you do, Iβll have your fucking job, officerβ.
We're also not supposed to have a felon for president in the first place, he shouldn't have been eligible to even run for office. But here we are, guess you poll workers didn't protest that either huh?
You can't sit and blame people that didn't vote when the poll workers fucking allowed it to happen.
"I didn't like either, so I did nothing" is such a bullshit excuse...
Like it or not, we have a two party system and this was the worst possible time for anyone to decide to do nothing. Non-voters are just as complicit in what's going on now because they chose to do fuck all when it actually mattered... I hope the righteous objection through inaction was worth it, because people are dying as a result now.
Read my other comment, I tried in 2016, definitely wasn't going to vote for orange. I never got to see the inside of the voting place.
After waiting around 2 hours, they shut down and cops ordered everyone remaining in line to leave at 8pm. There were probably around 200 people outside still waiting to vote..
You gotta get in the building first. Back in 2016, me and a friend went to vote. I would have voted Vermin Supreme (legit candidate no less), and my buddy planned on writing in Batman.
We stood in line for around 2 hours. For about the last half hour of waiting it was raining. Around half of everyone knew the weather forecast and had an umbrella, including us.
They closed the voting place (library) down at 8pm sharp, and the cops told everyone in line to go home. We were probably 150~200 people back in line.
We all waited that long, even in the fucking rain, only to be ordered to leave?!
If it matters (which it probably does), our state doesn't have early voting, you get one day to do it and that's it.
Wait 2 goddamn hours, partly in the rain, only to get shut down with around 200 people or so waiting to vote?!
Sooo.. I've never had a chance to see the inside of a voting facility. Not for lack of trying though.
You know mail-in, absentee, and provisional ballots are a thing, right?
Also, if you're in line to vote and the polling place is set to close, you still have the right to cast your ballot, no matter how long it takes. They can turn new people away, but they can't just close up and send people home if they've been waiting. If you were told to leave, those cops violated the law. And if they absolutely had to close, they're required to give out provisional ballots. Know your rights dude.
Okay, good to know. Maybe I can sue the library and the cops and get to cast my 2016 vote, wouldn't that be fucking nice if there was a time machine?
Like I said, we were in a line of probably around 200 people, and we were probably in place about 150 back towards the end of the line.
Everyone else ahead of us followed the orders first and left for their vehicles, we were towards the back of the line and were amongst the last to find out they closed as the cops ordered everyone to leave.
What the fuck you expect me to do, run around the block to get to the library door and beat on it? Get tackled and shot by cops?
You think I'm fucking stupid? If the 150 people ahead of me are complying with the cops, you think I'm gonna be the idiot to catch a bullet?
Drag every dumb American leftist that was here during the election claiming this exact thing, or that Harris' support of Israel was too much and Trump wouldn't do the same. Collaborationists one and all. May as well have given the order today.
You live with that now. And as it continues to get worse I sure hope someone in your life slaps the self-serving excuses right out of you so it dawns on you, because you will have to stew in this the rest of your life.
You are the enemy, just as much as the average noncommital fascist was in the mid-20th century. You are a cautionary tale for some kid studying history in a century, assuming we get to have kids studying history in a century despite your best attempts.
You're a speck of the nameless hordes in a rogue superpower. A collaborationist in a fascist nuclear state.
You have zero relevance as an individual. You are, fundamentally, just a small part of a big problem.
I have no obligation to care about your "individuality". I care about your victims. Which exist. You have real, human victims now. And I really hope if you're being honest about your self-righteous denials throughout this thread, that it at least triggers some self-awareness about that.
Has it ever crossed anyone's mind, that those of that didn't vote, was usually because we didn't approve of either candidate?
Christ, do they not teach the trolley problem anymore?
"Has it ever crossed anyone's mind that I didn't want the 5 guys on the main track or the 1 guy on the side track to die?"
Duh. That's the point. You act and feel guilty about a small bad thing, or do nothing and feel guilty and a big bad thing. We got the big bad ending, feel guilty.
That theory works great in hindsight, but before the election the orange turd was promising to stop wars, not start them.
Sure we all know he's a liar now, but before the election, going on their campaigns, how could anyone be sure which track would actually have more bodies in the future in that Trolley Problem.
You can't predict the future, so that's like presenting the Trolley Problem as if the switch is 10 miles before the tracks split.
Uh, dude's been a known liar for decades. He made himself known well before 2016, even more so for the next 4 years. We all said this was going to happen, no one else is surprised. You were warned.
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