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Hypolite Petovan 3 years ago friendica (via ActivityPub)

The US conducted so much torture ("enhanced interrogations") on prisoners that it was able to compile a best practices manual and later find out it isn't effective to extract useful intelligence.

They still currently do it though. The cruelty, as always, is the point.

Nanook 3 years ago friendica

Having been a prisoner in the US, I can testify that. They put me in a brick room, where it was about 40F, stripped me naked, and left me there 45 minutes.

Hypolite Petovan 3 years ago friendica (via ActivityPub)

I'm sorry to hear about it.

utzer [Friendica] 3 years ago friendica (via ActivityPub)

@Hypolite Petovan part of the axis of the good ©

What is the right word, hypocrisy isn't it? I lost faith in the US some years ago. After loving to be there, have had many friends there, wanting to work there, agreeing to move to upstate NY for my company and now being banned to go without a visa (as a German citizen) because I worked for GE in Iran some years ago. Well, lost faith in that country, not just because of this, but of all the bad things they did in the same time.

@Hypolite Petovan

Nanook 3 years ago friendica

Things are definitely messed up here, really a lot of uncertainty these days. We've really been operating under a coupe since Kennedy was assassinated.

Hypolite Petovan 3 years ago friendica (via ActivityPub)

I keep saying that I moved to New York rather than to the United States. I had no special affinity with the US even before 2001 and the War on Terror and the Second Irak War, but I have enjoyed living in New York City better than I ever had in Paris, so given the opportunity I jumped ship. I do not seek naturalization though. It probably will make more sense for my kid to ask for it when he's 18 since he's entitled to it by birth by a weird remnant of a lost political age.

utzer [Friendica] 3 years ago friendica (via ActivityPub)

@Hypolite Petovan yes, New York City is / was pretty different, hope it stays that way. For the US citizenship do not forget that this will force you/your kid to pay taxes there, even if you don't live there. Getting rid if the passport is also kind of complicated. Also if you have a US citizenship nowadays you are not able to open any savings account in many EU countries, big problem for a guy I know, he can not use the tax benefits for retirement savings accounts, as banks do not take any US clients anymore due to taxation problems.

@Hypolite Petovan

Hypolite Petovan 3 years ago friendica (via ActivityPub)

Ah, interesting, thanks. However, if he refuses the citizenship, he will have to apply for immigration which could mean tens of thousands of dollars in immigration lawyers.

utzer [Friendica] 3 years ago friendica (via ActivityPub)

@Hypolite Petovan probably worse, I see.

@Hypolite Petovan

Nanook 3 years ago friendica

Well I hope we get through this and things get better before I die. At 61, I'm not holding my breath though. Still, ever see those videos where they put beads or salt or something on a vibrating membrane and tune it through different frequencies, at low frequencies you get a certain pattern, simplistic, then they raise it and it turns into chaos and then some more and it re-organizes itself into a more complex pattern? Well I think societies go through something similar and right now we're at that point of chaos but I hope a higher order will emerge.

Hypolite Petovan 3 years ago friendica (via ActivityPub)

Societies evolve through a power struggle between the people who have and the people who don't. History shows greed inevitably precipitates the fall of the associated cultures, but it also kills a lot of people in the process, so while I'm hoping for better, I know transitions are bloody and I'm not eager for the slaughter, especially since I would probably be spared through no merit of my own.

Nanook 3 years ago friendica

History will play out however it does. I would prefer a peaceful resolution but all the censorship of mainstream media makes a peaceful dialog impossible which leaves only violence as a recourse. This is one of the main reasons I decided to put up a friendica node. To the degree I can contribute to a peaceful dialog I want to do so.

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Hypolite Petovan 3 years ago friendica (via ActivityPub)

What kind of censorship are you talking about?

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