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lemmy - Link to source

It seems M$ really doesn't want people to keep using WIndows
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I am currently using a legitimate copy of Windows 11, on the latest version. Just started getting this message after the latest update.

Considering I already have Linux and Mac as alternatives, if they actually pull my license they will just lose a lifelong customer. Their business decisions truly boggle the mind...

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Nanook

 — (Shoreline, WA, USA)
@KazuchijouNo I had a virtual machine with GPU pass through that I was using for gaming but it got broken in the upgrade from Ubuntu 22.04 to 24.04, it seems the UEFI bios provided in 24.04 does not work with GPU pass through, and I've yet to grab one off an OS where it works to replace it. So for now I'm dual-booting. Yea I agree, not all that comfortable with bare metal but Windows doesn't seem to want to recognize ext4 so there is some security by accident there.
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lychee🍒

Anti cheat works fine nowadays, I've heard that the only problems are caused by devs/publishers that explicitly don’t allow their games to launch on Linux. e.g. Elden Ring and Apex Legends both use easy anticheat; the former boots just fine on Linux while the latter doesn't work no matter what you do
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Nanook

@Daemon Silverstein Yes Windows will sometimes overwrite Linux boot block IF non-UEFI and you install Windows After Linux, but easily fixed with boot-repair or just use a life distro to re-install the grub boot-block. I run EUFI so Windows just makes a different directory in the EFI system disk so not an issue for me anymore.

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Nanook

 — (Shoreline, WA, USA)
@metaStatic @datavoid @KazuchijouNo @Daemon Silverstein I've had them sharing drives for many years no big deal. If you understand Linux well enough to know how to install a boot loader if it gets overritten not an issue. If you're using a modern UEFI Bios also not an issue. Only an issue if you're using legacy bios and don't know how to re-install a boot loader.
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Nanook

 — (Shoreline, WA, USA)
@mesamunefire I started playing a game called Flyff back in 2004, though I've had to switch servers several times because admins have become incompetent or discontinued, I've played ever since, currently playing Insanity Flyff, level 311 character Nanook there. I've tried to get it to run under wine but it uses a root kit anti-cheat so won't work under wine. This is soon going to be an issue with Win11 as well as they plan on disallowing root-kit anticheats soon. So maybe the game will adapt and then play under wine.
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Nanook

@metaStatic @datavoid @KazuchijouNo @Daemon Silverstein As I previously stated, I have NEVER had to do this with UEFI bios. Early versions of Windows 10 had a tendency to create a new EFI partition instead of using the existing one and that could be problematic but even that is no longer an issue.

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KazuchijouNo

That's why I just use a VM, I skip all the complications of having to fix bootloaders and broken installs. If anything goes wrong with windows I just delete the VM. Arch barely uses any RAM, so even back when I had only 8GB, windows ran incredibly well. I've updated to 16GB (because I needed the 64 bit version of excel and I wasn't being able to install it due to RAM requirements). Ever since then, I don't even look back to dual booting.

Funny story, originally my laptop was dual booted, but I removed windows completely and formated the partition, and since it was at the beggining of the drive, and you cannot move blocks around so easily in storage (I needed another SSD or hard drive to copy them momentarily) I was left with a hole in my storage. What I did was, mount the directory with the VM image storage to the empty partition. So now it's kind of "dual booting" with some extra steps and with the added benefit of being able to use both OS' at the same time

[TL;DR] If possible, just use a VM

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Nanook

@KazuchijouNo Well again as I stated, I haven't had an issue since going to UEFI in 2012, that's 12 years so problems, and I also had a VM because it allowed me to move between Linux and Windows more easily but Ubuntu broke the vm uefi bios in 24.04, I do have a Manjaro machine which works (based on Arch) so am going to steal the bios off of it to get it working again.

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thingsiplay

This is the way.

Whenever I installed another operating system (newer Linux or long time ago when dual booting to Windows), I always unplugged the older drive physically. Then installed it and plugged it back. This way none of the OS changes anything on the others boot system. And I choose to boot the drive from UEFI boot menu.

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thingsiplay

Windows can interfere with grub, or any other OS can for that matter. I use an alternative boot system than grub, which is much more simple. When I install a new operating system as described before, then each operating system has its own boot menu and entries (like multiple Linux Kernels per OS or other configurations).
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thingsiplay

No. There are cases which is an error of the operating system, not the operator. Windows in example did that recently (not my machine, I do not use Windows) by ruining grub. Saying it was a bug, but we believe its an attempt of Microsoft ruining grub with intention.

Just because you did not have any problems does not mean its the optimal and easiest way. Also having all operating systems and multiple Kernels and options to boot from for every OS in one boot menu is a mess. I don't want that ever again. Right now I have 5 entries for only one OS. Imagine adding Windows or another OS to it.

Its much easier and cleaner to separate each OS to its own menu, with the way I described earlier. Also much easier to replace an OS this way or make modifications.

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friendica (DFRN) - Link to source

Nanook

@thingsiplay Ok well I've been doing this for as long as Grub has been a thing (since retiring lilo) without an issue, so not sure why it is a problem for someone you know but I'm going to stick with probably operator error.

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friendica (DFRN) - Link to source

Nanook

@daggermoon I just use a live boot usb,
mount /dev/sda1 (or whatever root is) /mnt
mount /dev/sda3 (or whatever EFI is) /mnt/boot/efi
mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/pts
mount --rbind /sys /mnt/sys
mount --rbind /proc /mnt/proc
cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/resolv.conf
chroot /mnt
grub install /dev/sda (or whichever drive you want)

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datavoid

You realize that is a screenshot of the Windows update tool, right? Lol.... The purpose of this post is that it wouldn't let me update, saying that my legitimate copy of Windows 11 was at end of service. The issue has since been resolved.
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Markaos

saying that my legitimate copy of Windows 11 was at end of service


The screenshot says the version you use reached EoS and you need to update. There's absolutely nothing about invalid licenses in the screenshot.

Good job for getting upvotes on a "haha winblows bad" troll post, I guess.

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datavoid

I was frustrated in the moment because my valid license randomly said it reached end of service without reason. Not entirely sure this qualifies as a troll post... Search this problem, considering the thread on the Microsoft forums I wasn't the only one with the issue.

Please reread your comment and what it was replying to, we said the same thing.

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datavoid

How does sharing a screenshot of an issue with Microsoft's licensing server indicate that I need hand holding to use a computer? This is a Linux forum, if I had to guess every person here is on the high end of computer proficiency. It seems to me you are just a hostile person who likes to bully people online.
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glitchdx

I made the jump to Linux a few months ago, and while there are certain conveniences that I miss, everything I actually need works fine. As for gaming, I don't play anything with kernel level anticheat, so it doesn't matter to me that those don't work on linux.
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golden_zealot

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You think that's fucked, I updated and I get this message now that won't fuck off, stating I am both up to date, and missing updates at the same fucking time. Doesn't matter how many times I check for updates, nothing new is found, nothing installs.

You can hope they won't pull your license, but with this shit I'm just hoping they don't brick my fucking system.

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monovergent

Microsoft shouldn't revoke license keys unless it's a leaked VL key being spread around for piracy or the like. The semi-annual major updates seem to count as "versions" like Windows 11 22H2 (now end of service) vs Windows 11 24H2 (current). That said, it's a poorly worded error message and it doesn't help that Windows 11 will cry wolf at every opportunity.

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