Laptop for Linux
Hey all.
I've booted Linux Mint Debian Edition and Arch on to a couple old machines including my old laptops. The performance is still rather brutal because these machines are so old and their battery lives are rough. They are also bulky and uncomfortable to carry around.
So, I've been thinking about getting a more modern laptop and putting Linux on it but I've been out of the laptop market for so long now I have no idea what's good and what's not anymore. Any recommendations?
I think I've heard decent things about Chromebooks but how's the hardware of those? Are they relatively locked down and don't play nice with Linux? I'm just looking for a machine for daily use (browser, light coding, remote connecting to my desktop for heavier stuff)
Thanks in advance
EDIT: Thank you to everyone for responding, I did not expect so much discussion! I've certainly changed my mind on Chromebooks and will look into the options recommended below in the coming months. Thanks!
spaghettiwestern
in reply to bonsai • • •Not often mentioned, but Surface Laptops run Linux thanks to Linux Surface on Github. I've been running Mint on a Surface Laptop 4 13.5" for years with zero problems. Used and refurbished models are much cheaper than the other options mentioned here.
13.5" models with I7, 16g and 256g ssd are going for around $300 on ebay.
GitHub - linux-surface/linux-surface: Linux Kernel for Surface Devices
GitHubnon_burglar
in reply to spaghettiwestern • • •I have a surface pro 6 and I love it.
You should, however, mention that the cameras do not work (yet), which makes this a no-go as a full laptop replacement.
spaghettiwestern
in reply to non_burglar • • •leisesprecher
in reply to spaghettiwestern • • •What is the battery situation like?
The older, cheaper devices are obviously, well, older and thus the battery degraded a bit. Linux isn't exactly optimized for these things either. I would expect less than great battery life.
spaghettiwestern
in reply to leisesprecher • • •Dariusmiles2123
in reply to spaghettiwestern • • •I have a Surface Go 1 and I’m really happy with it.
But, I have to admit it was tricky to boot Linux on it and the blutooth doesn’t always work. The cameras too, but I don’t care.
Still, it’s a great device that you can attach to a big screen to get the best of both worlds (easy to transport and useful at home).
spaghettiwestern
in reply to Dariusmiles2123 • • •Some Bluetooth/wifi adapters are a real[tek] pain in the ass. The adapter in my HP laptop is constantly trouble and well known for it, but the Intel adapter in my Surface works without any issues at all. At some point I'll replace the Realtek in the HP with an Intel.
I agree it was somewhat cumbersome to set up Linux initially, but the excellent guide by the Linux Surface folks on Github made it just a matter of following the directions. For me the biggest annoyance was having to use a USB keyboard and mouse until the Surface kernel was loaded. The good thing is once the kernel was loaded everything just works and has for years.
pr06lefs
in reply to bonsai • • •Nanook
in reply to bonsai • •just_another_person
in reply to bonsai • • •Framework. Check the refurbs shop and get a great deal.
Stay away from Chromebook anything unless you get it for free.
BombOmOm
in reply to just_another_person • • •Seconding Framework, they make great laptops.
Highly recommend getting one with an AMD processor, as AMD drivers are built into the Linux kernel updates. Driver updates will just work without you having to think about them.
Configure Framework Laptop 13 DIY Edition (AMD Ryzen™ 7040 Series)
Frameworkmina86
in reply to bonsai • • •TUXEDO Computers
www.tuxedocomputers.comhydraulic_elliptical
in reply to mina86 • • •Gonna have to anti-recommend tuxedo unfortunately. Never had a "Linux" laptop before and never had any issues, but two of the newest Infinitybooks have a number of issues with fan control, clock sometimes stuck at 800MHz, weird-ass Ethernet NIC with no upstreamed drivers and so on. It's like a trip to 15 years ago in terms of weird little issues popping up every now and the .
The tuxedo kernel modules are a mess and not currently upstreamable, their interfaces are inconsistent across lineups/generations which they solve by building a unified Electron monstrosity "control center" on top.
The idea is nice but any mainstream manufacturer works pretty well these days, and the Schenker laptops with tuxedo software not up to par :/
Mike
in reply to hydraulic_elliptical • • •hydraulic_elliptical
in reply to Mike • • •Mike
in reply to hydraulic_elliptical • • •I 100% agree. Whenever these companies start with their own projects I immediately get suspicious that their goal is to enshittify down the line with vendor lock-in.
The only reasons why I'm seriously considering a Tuxedo are 1. European brand and 2. Double SSD.
Not a lot of laptops seem to be offering double SSD while being Linux compatible, so my hands are kinda tied.
hydraulic_elliptical
in reply to Mike • • •My primary needs were a big HiDPI screen, lots of memory, good CPU and it meets all of those. The only other devices meeting those are the high end ThinkPads that are no doubt nicer, but also double the price sooo it's all good.
But someone who buys primarily for great Linux support might be disappointed.
I also have to say I haven't spent much time investigating the issues I faced for time reasons, maybe some of them can be fixed easily.
data1701d (He/Him)
in reply to bonsai • • •I've been enjoying my Thinkpad E16 1st gen AMD on Debian 12. You do have to run a newer kernel to get it working. I ran into a bit of Wi-Fi trouble because I accidentally got a Realtek model, but I've long since fixed the issue entirely - I've posted the solution elsewhere here.
On another note, maybe we should just have a yearly hardware recommendations post pinned on this forum - it feels like we get a question like this every week or so and they sort of clutter the forum, no offense intended to OP.
Edit: Here's my Linux Hardware probe from when I first got the laptop linux-hardware.org/?probe=1e50…
HW probe of Lenovo ThinkPad E16 Gen 1 2... #1e50fb1862
linux-hardware.org