President Trump has been for America since the beginning.

37 years later, and he still says the same thing—nothing has changed.

He was destined to lead this country.

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in reply to Jesse Stone

Tariffs only cause fewer American goods to flow into foreign markets, and less American money to be used by foreigners, which means fewer American goods to be bought and values to be offered in return. The total amount of value and wealth for Americans will decrease, as will the level of freedom and civilization. Tariffs destroy the economy and create bondage for unproductive morons, and if your neighbor is a degenerate, you don't become an intellectual by following his example.
in reply to IvanAristotelian

He is destined in the same way as a Führer or chieftain of a people is destined: as mass insanity and intellectual dependence, collectivism, medieval ideas, and the already almost total degeneration of human rights, freedom, and all American ideals. Your rhetoric, your explanation, his argumentation is no longer essentially different from Hitler's or Stalin's.
in reply to Nanook

Who do you mean by "we"? Only concrete people can have property, want values, or make profits. If you don't have tariffs, then you're just buying goods overseas with a premium for the cost of transportation (compared to domestically). If you have tariffs, then you, the particular buyer, are forced to pay for the whim of the government, and the possible choice of values becomes narrower. Robbery or arbitrary imposition is not a means of production or profit.
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in reply to Jesse Stone

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Nanook

 — (Shoreline, WA, USA)
The issue you run into with any economic theory other than capitalism is that there is no automatic distribution of resources according to demand and always whoever is in power ends up globing all the resources to themselves because unfortunately that tends to be human nature. I mean I'd love to see it work like it does in Star Trek Next Generation, but that's fiction, real world it's more like the Klingons, so that's problem with socialism. Capitalism works as long as you don't have any one entity monopolizing the market, but the Sherman Anti-trust act hasn't been enforced since a decade after its' creation. So in reality nothing works as it exists now. I really would like to see a world like Star Trek where we are energy and resource rich without destroying our habitat, but the big thing that gets in the way of that is not the inability to achieve that kind of environmentally friendly abundance, although it sure and hell can not happen with windmills and solar panels, it could perhaps with hydrogen fusion and asteroid mining, but the real issue isn't the physics of getting there, it's the genetics. Humans evolved in mostly times of scarcity, therefore female genetics favor mates that can provide a lot of resources, and male genetics favor acquiring as much resources as possible to acquire desirable mates even if it's far more than they, their mates, or their offspring could need in one hundred lifetimes. Maybe that's what drives people to cut off their sex bits and try to pretend they're the other sex, but reproduction doesn't happen that way so that's a genetic dead end, unless the turd baby in Ren and Stimpy's pregnant episode counts is reproduction. Anyway, you can see why I don't feel the value in investing a lot of energy into the argument.