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Więcesław Duczynski

I have already asked this question in other places: can you tell me please how does the voting system work? For example, I take a ballot, put a mark in front of John Doe and give the ballot away. How can I be sure that the ballot is not lost in action? And how can I check that the votes calculation process is correct? They can write any numbers they like after all. Which officials can I contact or what phone can I call? May be there are some websites where I can check it myself? How can I look at the calculation process or smth like that?
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cranston

in the u.s., the only protection is transparency. in practice, that devolves down to having one person from each party present when votes are counted. there is zero beyond that.

so if the people are honest, and the process is neutral, the vote count is reliable.

in practice, until this election, people simply trusted that the self-interest of each party would produce an honest result. in fact, that trust had no basis whatsoever.

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Więcesław Duczynski

@cranston

the only protection is transparency.


What do you mean by "transparency"? What is transparent exactly?

in fact, that trust had no basis whatsoever.


That's a collusion, and AFAIK collusions are illegal. Then should the police be called or something?

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Nanook

@Więcesław Duczynski @cranston Well yes, cases were referred to the FBI. By transparent, there should be a way to track ballots from beginning to end that keeps hard copy and it should be observed and verified by all parties.
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Więcesław Duczynski

there should be a way


What is this way?

In school they tell you that if you've been robbed then you should go to a police department, if you need to pay taxes then you should go to a tax office, etc. It's a shame but in my age I still don't know where should I go to see what's going on with my ballot after I submit it.

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Nanook

@Więcesław Duczynski @cranston They have a website where you can put your ballot number and see that it was received and counted, but you can't see if they counted it for what you actually voted. I've had this discussion with the county, they say it's for "privacy" but if you need the ballot number which only they and I have it's not violating anyone's privacy it's just a way to avoid accountability.
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Nanook

@cranston I'm about seven miles north of it but that is still way too close. Yea Mayor Durkan is something else, something emitted from a horses ass I think. Our Governor Inslee ain't so great either, second highest gas tax in the nation, highest telecom taxes, but Boeing gets a free ride as does Amazon, honestly out the window. We pass an initiative to limit car tabs and the asshole takes it to court and gets it overturned.

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