In the context of the Chatcontrol attempt to get Americans to scan our photos with AI so we can be reported to Europol, the EU has even bigger plans in this direction. And they are honestly (I am told) asking for experts to advise them on these plans. You can apply until September 1st to be part of the expert group:
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Possible End to End to End Encryption: Come Help - Bert Hubert's writings
tl;dr: The European Commission is honestly asking for experts to advise them on ways to institute “effective and lawful access to data for law enforcement”. If you are an expert, I urge you to apply to join this group. You have until September 1st.Bert Hubert's writings
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Caleb James DeLisle
in reply to bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦 • • •I wonder what's the most bang-for-your-buck advice that can be given.
I mean, "don't do it" is kind of obvious, and hundreds of people are going to sign up and say just that.
I suspect that if they DO implement it, it probably leads to actually better outcomes, because it drives more people off of centralized crap over to the fun side of the internet.
I wonder what adds the most unique information...
vic
in reply to Caleb James DeLisle • • •What's the lawful and effective way for "normal" people to access the private communications of law enforcement and government officials, which arguably shouldn't be private at all? That's the same process that should be used for getting communications of citizens who aren't affiliated with government.
Simple and fair, and yet they'll balk.
Caleb James DeLisle
in reply to vic • • •I don't understand where in the stack they plan to insert this... They're going to force all phones to contain a backdoor? What are CIA and Mossad operating in Europe gonna do? Special phone from Israel/USA -> Stands out like a sore thumb.
I suspect Whatsapp and Signal are setup to protect covert ops, and they will just pull geopolitical strings to make sure this goes nowhere...
But if it's like some kind of thing that only half the phones have it and half the people uninstall it, then whatever, no one will care...
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in reply to bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦 • • •Any idea what the time commitment for this is? I have a full-time job so scared to apply as someone else would probably do a better job.
But I worked both at Wire for 3 years (E2EE chat / video calling) and Feeld for 2 years (Dating app; so lots of more direct interaction with law enforcement w.r.t. sexual abuse cases, age verification, etc). so I feel like I have an interesting perspective from both sides of the spectrum.
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