just in case you didn’t know that “it’s only for code reviews, I don’t see the problem” is always bad faith horseshit: phoronix.com/news/Linus-Torval…
> Linux creator Linus Torvalds has been known to use AI to help with kernel debugging and outside of the kernel tree has also done some vibe coding with Google's Antigravity. He has previously said he views AI as a useful tool. It turns out he's even now using Claude Code for working on new Linux kernel features.
> "The code, the test programs, the review behind the list above and the first draft of this text were done with an LLM coding assistant (Claude Code) under my direction. The measurements were run on my machine."
so just a full vibe, done with the LLM that can’t make a web browser, C compiler, rsync features that aren’t riddled with bugs, or JavaScript runtime
this is the shit we were warning you about
was there a reason why you didn’t listen?
[object Object]
in reply to [object Object] • • •I cannot emphasize enough how horrid Claude Code (and every other LLM) is at systems code
it’s horrid at everything, but when torvalds pretends it’s any good for kernel work he’s trying to talk over a clear pattern of failures
I cannot name a single vibed piece of systems code that actually works with anything approaching basic reliability
torvalds’ proof that any of this shit does anything at all is that:
- it shit out a generic python UI for one of his side projects
- the corporations funding him via the Linux Foundation and keeping him fat in tokens say it works great
that’s it. that’s where all his confidence comes from. that and him being a mediocre little fucker.
Bredroll
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in reply to [object Object] • • •surely this time. surely the horrid thing that can’t produce stable software for the xteink x4, to the point where people are abandoning their devices out of frustration, will be fantastic at making features for a much larger, much much more complicated kernel that has to work across a gigantic variety of hardware
surely this time
Stu
in reply to [object Object] • • •F4GRX Sébastien ⸚
in reply to Stu • • •@tehstu these hallucinated people are really considering claude as a coding slave that does intelligent things on their behalf, like an intern they can coach.
I hate that Torvalds decided to do this, first because it's ridiculous, and more importantly, because he's showing the way to many developers that will take this as an authorization to vibe code the kernel in a large scale.
Bredroll
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in reply to datarama • • •This, in fact, is the reason why I think that if there's anyone in the entire world who has a chance of actually pulling something like this off, it's probably Linus.
Not because he's a great superprogrammer or anything, but simply due to experience: Reading code and complaining about it if it's not to his liking *has basically been his entire job for 25+ years*. He's also used to dealing with sycophants - though not, as far as I'm aware, with the kind of "malicious correctness" that LLMs tend to do.
(Of course, this also means that if he can't pull it off, then it's probably safe to say that nobody can.)
F4GRX Sébastien ⸚
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Krampus 🌰
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in reply to [object Object] • • •_Έλλεν Εμίλια Ά. Arson ζ.
in reply to [object Object] • • •> memory management code
oh that's just a catastrophe waiting to happen.
[object Object]
in reply to _Έλλεν Εμίλια Ά. Arson ζ. • • •Howl The Wizard
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in reply to Mx. Chara Aznable of Pnictogen • • •@mxchara linus torvalds, the programming god boy genius who either refused or failed to learn basic frontend python for an easy side project so he had “google antigravity”, whatever the fuck that is, generate it, and that experience convinced him LLMs were amazing at kernel code
under the direction of the guy who can’t figure out python
Mad Engineering
in reply to [object Object] • • •Andres
in reply to [object Object] • • •It's funny when people say things like, "Even *Linus* is doing [thing]!" to justify problematic stuff.
This is the guy who was a happy BitKeeper user until Tridge blew up the relationship w/ McVoy and the kernel community. He's not some shining beacon of free-softwareness and ethical purity, he's someone who will look the other way on ethical issues for pragmatic reasons. That's just who he is.
Jacob Alexander Tice
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