ITS ABOUT TIME...
Iranian official reportedly says fuel ships may not pass to #Europe through the Strait of #Hormuz
If #Iran carries out its threat to block oil tankers, the whole West will collapse within days.
#EU will face an existential threat, but what else can the #Brussels puppets do when they have been subservient to the #US since 1945?
They will suffer their fate...
Bluevelvet
in reply to Spartacus • • •benda
in reply to Bluevelvet • • •but either way, yeah. if iran does this, they will just carpet bomb the country. i think they'll wait. for now, they will only keep hitting israel.
Spartacus
in reply to benda • • •Within the first week
benda
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in reply to benda • • •I am going to RT now
benda
in reply to Spartacus • • •youtube.com/watch?v=F0TQjJzfUP…
Khamenei LIVE: Iran Supreme Leader's Speech On US Joining Israel War Viral After Trump Bombs Iran
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Bluevelvet
in reply to Spartacus • • •Spartacus
in reply to Bluevelvet • • •The others are negligible quantity
Bluevelvet
in reply to Spartacus • • •Spartacus
in reply to Spartacus • • •Oil experts warn that oil could surge everywhere between $120 to $300 dollars per barrel if the Strait is shut down, totally destroy global energy markets.
Such high prices would put enormous pressure on the government of the orange fascist, who would probably push for a resolution of the conflict as soon as possible to stabilize the situation.
Nanook
in reply to Spartacus • •Spartacus
in reply to Nanook • • •Second the US produces a lot of oil but is still in deficit. And if prices rise in the world market they will rise inside the US no matter how much oil they produce.
It's just capitalism.
Nanook
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in reply to Nanook • • •let's see how that goes...
Nanook
in reply to Spartacus • •Spartacus
in reply to Nanook • • •Iran relies on oil revenues and can continue to ship oil to its largest buyer, China, even with the straits closed.
Nanook
in reply to Spartacus • •@Spartacus How do you suppose they are going to ship it? You think maybe they're going to go through the Caspian Sea and via Russia? or perhaps through Afghanistan or Pakistan? I don't think so. You think maybe they have mines that can tell an enemy ship from their own? I kind of doubt it.
Iran has no effective air force, we do. They have not much navy either. This war isn't good for anyone, what Trump did was no doubt foolhardy, but also largely theatrical, we know we did not put a serious dent in their program, that is obvious, they were warned ahead of time so they had time to move nuclear materials in advance, the centrifuges were too deep to be hurt.
I still believe the reason we still don't have a full list of Epstein's clients is because Trump is on the list and Mossad is behind the Epstein operation. NBC News footage from November 1992 showing Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein at a party in Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort. (YouTube screen capture)November 3, 2024, 2:52 pm In audio clip from 2017, Jeffrey Epstein said he was once Trump’s ‘closest friend’ Ok, it's hard to find out whether Epstein himself was Jewish but he was in the banking industry before he got into the child sex industry and that industry is dominated by Jews, especially in New York which is where he was from.
So it is still my belief that Trump was blackmailed into this and dropped the bunker busters not because he had any real hope of penetrating a mountain but to make a show for Netanyahu. Does that make him a good guy? No the fact that he could participated in behavior that allowed him to be blackmailed is not good, but I think you'd find that true for the majority of congress.
But you and I can speculate all day, it really doesn't matter as it won't affect how history plays out. I'm hoping this does not continue to escalate into a war between US / China / and Russia. I think that is the real risk, not an oil shortage.
Spartacus
in reply to Nanook • • •@nanook
This is exactly what it means for Iran to have complete control of the strait. To control who passes through and who doesn't.
The laying of mines in the sea is done in a way that will leave a free passage known only to the one who laid the mines.
It's been done all along
But the biggest mistake you're making is thinking that those who are pursuing this - and any other - war care more about human lives than oil prices.
Well, they don't.
Nanook
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in reply to Nanook • • •I understand that you are projecting what you wish, it's just that the world outside the US doesn't work that way. Youbl are way behind on war technology for the last 20 years or more
And at some point you have to deal with it
Nanook
in reply to Spartacus • •@Spartacus I've had the opportunity to see some of the satellite data. Even from 200 miles up, the resolution is so good I was able to read the license plates of cars in a parking lot in spite of the obtuse angle.
But as I've stated it is just speculation, history will play out however it does, and honestly I'd much rather it play out the way you think it is likely to than the way I fear it may because at least your way we'll still be around to witness it.
I just fear with a handful of countries, two of them having more than 5000 nukes each, there is the potential for this to go a lot further south than just an oil shortage.
At any rate, I see no reason to get so hung up on the details. I think we can both agree that what Trump did was bat shit crazy and also quite the opposite of what he promised while running. But the dead is done, all we can do now is wait and see where the dust settles.
Spartacus
in reply to Nanook • • •They are willing to sacrifice millions of lives rather than see inflation increase by one unit.
Its all about their profits. Not our lives
Nanook
in reply to Spartacus • •@Spartacus When you use pronouns like "they" without qualifying whom "they" refers to, it makes it rather difficult to make sense of your sentence.
Look, I see no point to posturing, history will play out however it does. But I do not see the threat of oil shipping being impinged upon as significant compared to the threat of US/China/Russia nuclear war.