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4 days ago

vandsjov
4 days ago

GNOME Desktop top bar - waste of space?

Hi,

I used to be a big fan of GNOME the way it got out of my way when I didn’t need it and no icons in the bottom to take up desktop space. But the top bar just seems so… useless. It holds a few useful icons in the right side (and you can get extensions to add more) but other than this, it’s just taking up space. After a trip past Xfce I’m now on KDE with the bar in the top.

Have I missed anything about the top bar in GNOME Desktop?

like this

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Nanook

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

@vandsjov Personally, I use Mate, similar to the way the old Gnome-2 worked, and easier to add/delete things to the bars. On mine, top bar has the old style menu, a forced quit, a network monitor, a CPU monitor, a language select, a multi-indicator with sound among other things, and a Calendar. The bottom has applications, workspace switcher, and trash can.

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Kami

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

extensions.gnome.org/extension…

Dash to Panel - GNOME Shell Extensions

^{extensions.gnome.org}

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vandsjov

in reply to Kami 3 days ago

Thank you - I will try to look into this as it looks nice in the screenshots.

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Kami

in reply to vandsjov 3 days ago

There are a lot of settings to change its behavior and appearance too.

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wildbus8979

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

It's a nice place to put System-Monitor and fréon extensions

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Dave

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

Install an extension to hide it, I just tried this and it works for me: extensions.gnome.org/extension…

You can install extensions by searching for it in the GNOME extensions manager. Once installed, you can edit the settings in the same place (I found I had to move off the window to another application before hiding was applied).

Hide Top Bar - GNOME Shell Extensions

^{extensions.gnome.org}

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RotatingParts

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

If the top bar is set up as a menu bar, it could save space on the screen when multiple horizontally placed windows (without individual menu bars) are on the screen. Other than that, I think the general top bar stuff can just be in the bottom bar.

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Brickfrog

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

When I first started using GNOME the top bar was a bit off-putting but I got used to it TBH. It's not something I think about much nowadays.

However, you actually can move it to the side or to the bottom, and/or change it in other ways, with the dash-to-panel extension so definitely check that out if the top bar is bugging you extensions.gnome.org/extension…

Dash to Panel - GNOME Shell Extensions

^{extensions.gnome.org}

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Nanook

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

@vandsjov In Mate you can add / delete bars all around, top bottom either side and add / delete anything you don't want to/ from them, set the width, transparency, etc.

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frongt

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

Gnome is designed to mimic MacOS, and the top bar is a fixture there. KDE is designed to mimic Windows, but also lets you configure way more than Windows ever did. You can put it on top in KDE and tell it to hide when not in use, if you want.

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Nanook

in reply to frongt 4 days ago

@frongt @vandsjov So very wrong, MacOS was released in 2001, Gnome in 1997, and Gnome was originally meant to be an alternative to the then proprietary KDE.

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vandsjov

in reply to frongt 3 days ago

It mimics macOS, however, on the Mac, Apple has got every app (all the ones I use, anyway) to use the top bar for menus, meaning that it is less wasted space. But I don't really like macOS app/window handling.

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Nanook

in reply to vandsjov 2 days ago

@vandsjov @frongt Something that comes out for years prior to another doesn't mimic the other. The chronological order doesn't work.

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Eugenia

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

I personally use an extension to have the top bar hide when i maximize an app. I can't stand the wasted space either.

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eta

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

I use an Extension that can show the output of shell scripts in the bar to monitor different things about my system like CPU/RAM/Swap/Network usage and some more things I just want to keep an eye on like distrobox status.

I also used the OpenBar extension to move the bar to the bottom and do color customisations for the system and notification menus.

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mko

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

One solution is to replace the panel and dock with something like the Dash to Panel extension. It consolidates both into a single bar/dock/panel, is highly configurable and works very well. I wanted to get rid of the top panel for your reason as well as my muscle memory wanting the window controls of maximized windows to be on the top of my screen, not below a what essentially is a menu bar.

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Ulrich

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

The top bar shows you:

Date and time
What workspace you're in
What apps you're actively running
Internet connection
If Caffeine is running

These are all important information to have at a glance, in my opinion. If you don't think so, you can remove it. Simple as.

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eldavi

in reply to Ulrich 4 days ago

These are all important information to have at a glance, in my opinion. If you don’t think so, you can remove it. Simple as.

it would be better if you could autohide it. especially for low res screens like mine.

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Euphoma

in reply to eldavi 3 days ago

Theres a gnome extension for that

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eldavi

in reply to Euphoma 3 days ago

gnome-tweaks used to be able to do this, but not anymore.

which one do you know about?

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Euphoma

in reply to eldavi 3 days ago

extensions.gnome.org/extension…

Hide Top Bar - GNOME Shell Extensions

^{extensions.gnome.org}

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vandsjov

in reply to Ulrich 1 day ago

Okay, I missed the part where it can show me the apps I'm using. Where do I turn it on?

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Atahualpa

in reply to vandsjov 4 days ago

I guess it depends on your use, for me it's sometimes too small. I use it for
- workspaces
- ram + cpu + network speed monitoring
- clipboard manager icon
- music controls
- all background running apps (nextcloud, keepass, ...)

Know that you can make the panel thinner or remove it completely with the extension "Just perfection". I highly recommend it as it does a ton of useful stuff and is always updated on time with new Gnome versions.

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mitrosus

in reply to vandsjov 3 days ago

Top bar is the reason I do not use gnome. Not only it is a waste of space, it blocks the bar of maximised windows to go on screen edge where it would have been easier to grab or close.

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Nanook

in reply to mitrosus 3 days ago

@mitrosus @vandsjov In Mate when you maximize a window with F11, it covers all the bars and uses the full screen.

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BanksOfTheLee

in reply to mitrosus 3 days ago

I might be misunderstanding you, but dragging down from the top bar in GNOME while a window is maximized results in the same behaviour as grabbing the window's toolbar. So you can still move the window around when dragging down from the top bar. This has been the default behaviour for a long time (maybe since GNOME 3? unsure)

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LiveLM

in reply to vandsjov 2 days ago

Yeah, it used to be a real space saver back in the Unity days were Window Controls and the Application Menu would merge onto the top bar when maximised but that's dead now, I don't get it either

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Jiří Král

in reply to vandsjov 2 days ago

I just use the "Just perfection" extension to hide to top bar and only make it visible in overview. It may sound annoying to have to use overwiew each time you want to see or interact with the top bar, but honestly for me it's not that often to make that 1 or 2 extra keypresses annoying. When you get used to it it saves a lot of space.

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