How many times has #Netanyahu claimed #Iran is close to a #nuclear weapon, and needs to be dealt with immediately?
I think we’re up to 6 times since 1990’s, plus we add one for Saddam Hussein in #Iraq, too.
Not saying he’s wrong this time, but for sure it is a pattern and definitely a go-to for this man, and has been proven to bullshit us before.
Unfortunately Iran is not Iraq. Even though I would love for the regime there to fall, I doubt a ground invasion is possible due to it’s geography.
dragonfrog
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in reply to benda • • •@benda @dragonfrog I’m aware there is a pot calling the kettle black situation here.
However, there is a genuine humanist case to be made that brutal theocracies incarcerating a sizeable portion of their population to prisons, murdering protesters, etcetera, aren’t the best possible government these Persian people could find themselves governed by.
Israel itself wears of course only the robes of a liberator, as it is a coloniser & brutaliser itself.
benda
in reply to Toni Aittoniemi • • •only in the west do we discuss liberation from oppression and imperial warfare int he same breath and don't think its absurd.
if the west brings down the IR, whatever replaces it will be worse for the iranian people.
if you debate that, there's a half dozen examples from the last 3 decades for you to study.
benda
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in reply to benda • • •@benda @dragonfrog Indeed. The reason Iranian people have to suffer the brutal regime in control of their state right now can squarely be placed on western interests.
In their fear of "communism", which was just cover for keeping ownership of their oil & gas fields, they enacted regime change and placed in the Shah.
The great irony is Netanyahu is likely calling a repetition of that exact scheme by "Rising Lion", as the Shah's flag was indeed a lion.
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benda
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in reply to Toni Aittoniemi • • •@benda @dragonfrog But. The current theocratic regime, it also took power by betrayal.
The Islamists were merely a part of the revolution that ousted the Shah, and they made promises to bring democratic values to country.
But after the Shah was ousted, the Islamists murdered key figures in the revolution not on their side, took power, and did everything they could to erase that fact of history.
Two evil turns do not a good make.
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benda
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in reply to benda • • •@benda @dragonfrog I certainly was not calling for foreign intervention.
If there is a side-effect of the murderous brutal regime falling, I don't mind.
But the risks of military intervention are always higher than negociation.
dragonfrog
in reply to benda • • •@benda "only in the west do we discuss liberation from oppression and imperial warfare int he same breath and don't think its absurd. "
That I am not so sure of. Look how Russia talks about Ukraine, how the PRC talks about Taiwan.
Nanook
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